Buell motocross bike [Archive]

Crasherfromwayback

12th February 2007, 14:04

Why?

It's not like they're likely to catch an untapped segment of the market or anything.

Well I guess that's the same as asking why KTM strated building road bikes innit?

vifferman

12th February 2007, 14:06

Maybe now they'll start sticking Rotax engines in their roadbikes. Lose some weight and gain some horsies...

Finn

12th February 2007, 14:13

Let's hope they remember the kick starter before it goes into production.

Motu

12th February 2007, 14:15

Harley have been putting their name on Rotax powered flattrackers for many years.

A nice blending of Yamaha blue and Kawasaki green.....what else have they borrowed?

Finn

12th February 2007, 14:17

what else have they borrowed?

A pirated copy of Photoshop?

madmal64

12th February 2007, 14:19

Seems like these Rotax power plants are showing up all over the place. Must be a good unit:yes:

Finn

12th February 2007, 14:26

Seems like these Rotax power plants are showing up all over the place. Must be a good unit:yes:

I used to have a Rotax 125 in a go kart and it was the bees nuts. Had an Aprilia carb on it. They also make helicopter and microlight engines so they must be good.

onearmedbandit

12th February 2007, 14:29

I see they continue the fuel-in-the-frame idea with this one too. Makes it very clean looking.

onearmedbandit

12th February 2007, 14:31

Let's hope they remember the kick starter before it goes into production.

I'm guessing that the kick start is on the left hand side of the engine, as the drive is on the right.

Motu

12th February 2007, 14:37

Well that's an easy fix by reversing the negative.

"D" FZ1

12th February 2007, 14:41

Looks lovely :yes:

onearmedbandit

12th February 2007, 14:41

Touche! Indeed it would. Some of the Euro's do use right drive don't they, maybe earlier ones, and Sportsers do too. There is HD's contribution, it's the Buell Sportser X'er.

NighthawkNZ

12th February 2007, 14:45

looks like every other motoX bike on the market... :scratch:

Crasherfromwayback

12th February 2007, 14:58

looks like every other motoX bike on the market... :scratch:

Not quite....fuel in the frame....

WRT

12th February 2007, 15:50

But it can't be a Buell - the zorst isn't under the engine! :dodge:

avgas

12th February 2007, 15:51

Not quite....fuel in the frame....

but its hard to see that

Crasherfromwayback

12th February 2007, 15:58

but its hard to see that

Yeah I guess....but there's no visible gas tank right? And the frame spars are well oversized yeah?

takitimu

12th February 2007, 16:36

looks like every other motoX bike on the market... :scratch:

Not so sure about that, if it's fuel injection it would be very very interesting.

Motu

12th February 2007, 16:50

It hasn't got a speedo or a tacho - how do you know how fast it goes mister? Can it do a wheelie,can it wheelie mister? It's got no stickers,can't be fast if it's got no stickers mister.

WRT

12th February 2007, 16:56

Son, it goes so fast even if it had a speedo you wouldnt even have time to read it.

Crasherfromwayback

12th February 2007, 17:46

It hasn't got a speedo or a tacho - how do you know how fast it goes mister? Can it do a wheelie,can it wheelie mister? It's got no stickers,can't be fast if it's got no stickers mister.

I dunno Motu....if it's anything like my RMZ450 I wouldn't want a speedo!

Sam I Am

12th February 2007, 20:28

MOTARD !!!

:Punk:

avgas

12th February 2007, 20:42

Yeah I guess....but there's no visible gas tank right? And the frame spars are well oversized yeah?

Oversize frame vs a small lightweight plastic tank. Is this another nasa idea....like that pen for space (Russians took a pencil)
I'm a big fan of buells, but i dont really see this going far - take the buell blast for example, nice bike, but failed to launch.
How about something buellish to go against the 620 duke and MadAss 500? That would sell.

sidecar bob

12th February 2007, 21:03

I used to have a Rotax 125 in a go kart and it was the bees nuts. Had an Aprilia carb on it. They also make helicopter and microlight engines so they must be good.

My RS125 Aprilia has a Rotax122 in it. Fast (for a 125) but a bit fragile. Early ones had a rotax 123.
The Aprilia ones have Dellorto carbs.

Crasherfromwayback

12th February 2007, 22:45

Oversize frame vs a small lightweight plastic tank. Is this another nasa idea....like that pen for space (Russians took a pencil)
I'm a big fan of buells, but i dont really see this going far - take the buell blast for example, nice bike, but failed to launch.
How about something buellish to go against the 620 duke and MadAss 500? That would sell.

It's not so much the weight thing as far as the fuell in the frame goes...more so saving space......if there's no 8 litre fuel cell to have to put somewhere....you can have more room for a larger airbox etc...

barty5

13th February 2007, 10:09

whats servicing to be like engine out as you cant remove the tank to get near the top and the radiator supports dont look like they allow for much room either.

scumdog

13th February 2007, 10:15

Good old NZ - show a new idea and stand back and wait while the knockers and pickers flap in and pick it to pieces.....:yes:

Like more than a few were ever likely to buy one....?

Crasherfromwayback

13th February 2007, 10:40

Good old NZ - show a new idea and stand back and wait while the knockers and pickers flap in and pick it to pieces.....:yes:

Like more than a few were ever likely to buy one....?

Yeah....it'll be those of us not knocking it that'll be buying it.....now if I can just convince Buell to sponsor me in the motard scene....

cheese

13th February 2007, 10:52

eww I don't fance the left side kickstart.

Is rotax that good at building engines?

Crasherfromwayback

13th February 2007, 11:00

eww I don't fance the left side kickstart.

Is rotax that good at building engines?

Yeah I had a CR480 years ago that was left side kick....maggot of a thing!
Mind you....I've been having to start my RMZ with my left leg seeing as my right ankle is still so rooted...kinda getting the hang of it now!
It may be leckie start...I'll soon know!

Motu

13th February 2007, 11:04

Good old NZ - show a new idea and stand back and wait while the knockers and pickers flap in and pick it to pieces.....:yes:

I was just complaining about the lack off stickers,a pretty valid complaint I reckon.Like,who the fuck would buy a bike without stickers? It's just so dorky man.

Sorry about the spelling and punctuation,I try my hardest,but my poor education just comes through....

avgas

13th February 2007, 11:21

Good old NZ - show a new idea and stand back and wait while the knockers and pickers flap in and pick it to pieces.....:yes:
Like more than a few were ever likely to buy one....?
Its called constructive criticism, a good designer does it to themselves 1,000,000 times a day.
Anyone who designs something and doesn't "What is wrong with my design?", is cocky.
While i get the concept of the fuel in the frame, for this bike i don't see the real point as the bike doesn't look that much smaller, and i have never seen an air box that was too small on a standard bike.
I'm a big fan of the motard scene, and of buells - but i don't see this taking off for them - its and aprilla with fuel in the frame (and it will prob weigh more than the aprilla).
Very un-uneventful for buell. I'm guessing that its made in china and buell just chuck a sticker on it.

Motu

13th February 2007, 11:40

Having the fuel up high and forward is not a good idea,just that's the way it's always done.Getting that changing weight lower and more central is a good idea.I have no problem with inovation....just the price I have to pay to sample it.By the time I can afford these things the inovation is called classic.

NordieBoy

13th February 2007, 20:26

Oversize frame vs a small lightweight plastic tank. Is this another nasa idea....like that pen for space (Russians took a pencil)
I'm a big fan of buells, but i dont really see this going far - take the buell blast for example, nice bike, but failed to launch.
How about something buellish to go against the 620 duke and MadAss 500? That would sell.

The pencil caused problems.
Conductive graphite dust and bits of lead getting into circuits and air filters - Not good.

cheese

14th February 2007, 14:24

they should have used a crayon then..........

scott411

26th September 2007, 07:30

just heard on a US Motocross site that the whole Buell/ Harley MX bike has been scrapped

xr-rider

26th September 2007, 08:49

Maybe now they'll start sticking Rotax engines in their roadbikes. Lose some weight and gain some horsies...

They already do use the the rotax engines, it's an Austrian one and the new roadbikes put out 149hp. still a fair way of the others.

merv

26th September 2007, 13:01

As for the kick start who says it wasn't just electric start anyway?

How soon before you know CFWB?

Crasherfromwayback

26th September 2007, 14:40

As for the kick start who says it wasn't just electric start anyway?

How soon before you know CFWB?

Well at the Harley/Buell dealer conference they stated it was gonna be shown shortly...so fingers crossed!