Revolting teenagers.

[terbang]

A couple of days ago one of my daughters friends got bottled at school. He got a nasty slash down his face that required quite an embroidery job to repair. At Waiuku college there is a fairly high degree of unrest between various ethnic groups and this incident was a result of such tension. A particular group of lads have been running roughshot on other pupils for some time now. In todays PC world the punishment for the attackers (3 of them from this particular group) was only 2 days suspension. A group of kids compained to the school that the punishment hardly fitted a crime of scarring someone for life and as usual the compaints fell on deaf ears. Today a group of children (My Daughter, subversive little bugger she is, included) staged a walk out of the assembly and formed a picket outside the school. This was in protest to the level of violence that seems to go unchecked and the lack of real discipline at the school. They just don't want to have to put up with this gang of shitheads anymore. The protest gathered momentum and before long around 250 kids walked out of class and protested including the head boy and girl. The cops were called by the teachers who were unprepared for such civil unrest and had no Idea on how to handle it. The newspaper reporters turned up and so did TV 3 and quite a few people started asking questions as to WTF is going on at that school. The softcock headmaster is now stating that because it happened just outside the school gates (only a few metres) that it was ouside of his boundary of responsibility. So why the suspension..? All protesting children are now marked as truant and will also face punsihment. I guess that cant be that bad if they only dish out a minor suspension for bottling someone.
This is an interesting incident in that it highlights the fact that our youth are also getting sick of our PC society and are willing to have their say.
Quite frankly I agree with them and my wife Rachel (who is actually the truancy administrator at Waiuku college) and I support our daughter and her friends actions. Maybe the next generation isn't such a lost cause as we often accuse them of being.

[Nasty]

DId the initial kid who was bottled lay assult charges with the police ... even if it was around the school they have to take this seriously and put charges in if there is a complaint made.

[James Deuce]

Maybe the next generation isn't such a lost cause as we often accuse them of being.

They never are.

[ZorsT]

The principal of that school should not use the fact it was outside the gates as an excuse.

They always told us kids that they were responsible for us (and our safety) from when we leave for school, until when we get home

[Mom]

Today a group of children (My Daughter, subversive little bugger she is, included) staged a walk out of the assembly and formed a picket outside the school. The protest gathered momentum and before long around 250 kids walked out of class and protested including the head boy and girl. This is an interesting incident in that it highlights the fact that our youth are also getting sick of our PC society and are willing to have their say.
Quite frankly I agree with them and my wife Rachel (who is actually the truancy administrator at Waiuku college) and I support our daughter and her friends actions. Maybe the next generation isn't such a lost cause as we often accuse them of being.

Fantastic to read!! This sort of thing reassures me that we are in fact raising some thinking kids, not a bunch of drones/non participating ignorant kids.

Of course I dont mean the catalyst for the kids stepping up (that is another thing altogether) but to read that they have said "no more" and are prepared to face the consequences and taking a stand warms my heart no end.

Best of luck to them!

congratulations on raising a ..."subversive little bugger"

Mom

[N4CR]

the principal of that school should not use the fact it was outside the gates as an excuse.

they always told us kids that they were responsible for us (and our safety) from when we leave for school, until when we get home

that is correct.

my college had a race riot once chinks vs whiteys on the basket ball courts, rather hilarious but nothing like bottling people. that headmaster is in the **** now i'd say, good luck giving half the school detentions... hahahahaha what an *****.

well done to the kids for having the balls to do something about it, respect to them!

i work at a college also.

[Coyote]

They never are.
Hear hear

I'd be in the protest
Edit: not simply to get out of class

[Dafe]

Maybe us adults should learn from these kids!

[Toaster]

..... revolting teenagers...... pretty much says it all. I fear for what is becoming of our schools, kids, society, moral decay, violence etc. All the political softcock correctness is turning everything to "poo" because none gets propertly disciplined and there are no real punishments or consequences dealt out for wrongdoing.

[Panther]

the PC society that my parents generation has created for us is a load of ****
bring back the cane in class rooms
my mum was way too soft on me, i dont care if she thinks her mum an dad were too harsh and she had a tough life, riding to school on her 175 twin, im gonna be tough on kids, what happened to the days whe you were scared of your parents, and that fear translated into respect?

[Wasp]

Maybe the next generation isn't such a lost cause as we often accuse them of being.
I sure as hell ain't

during my last years of school I soon realised that a "heads down keep the fuck out of everyone who is bigger than me way" approach was needed.

[terbang]

Maybe us adults should learn from these kids!

Us parents, having being pummelled for way too long, by the very PC machine that we, our generation, produced have become immune to it. We need to take a close look at how our kids view the legacys we leave them and encourage them to make some hard choices.

[Motu]

Each generation gives their offspring an easier time than they had...it's only natural.My parents childhood ('20's and '30's) was pure hell...my mother used to talk about her father using a stock whip on the kids,she was even shot at,hearing the bullet go over her head.She used the ''wooden spoon'' on us,and most likely thought she was giving us an upbringing in paradise.So long as there is communication issues can be sorted.....

[Quartermile]

There is alot of PC bullsh!t going around lately and I can easily see the effect it had on my school (no longer go there) but the 'respect' that Sallo states is missing from the classroom.

Although don't get me wrong I loved running rings around my teachers really you shouldn't be able to do that especially at college!!

[Panther]

thats whys colleges are turning out so many dumb ***** cos they don't bother to pay attention in class, learn anything, do any work, learn work ethic etc, can't get past dumbed down 5th form.
bring back the cane and the electric chair.
all comes down to respect for elders.
PC allowed kids to back chat in class, abuse the teachers and behave in ways that they would not infront of their parents. and teachers cant do jack. if they try and do anything they get narked on for sexual abuse or end up crying.
Thanks helen for keeping my generation real, real little shits.

[Quartermile]

Hell yea NCEA is designed for idiots to pass but somehow some F***wits still manage to fail??

There is absoluty no incentive to excell as even if you get 'excellence' in all your grades someone who just srapes achived still ends up with the same recognition for polytech or uni, I think my spelling in alot of posts proves this.

( I ended up putting polytech or uni as I couldn't figure out how to spell turtury ):D

[Ixion]

( I ended up putting polytech or uni as I couldn't figure out how to spell turtury ):D

Dead easy. Tertiary. All y' have to do is remember that it derives from the Latin, 'tertius', 'a turtle'. The reason the tertiary institutes are so called is because , as we all know, the world is supported on the back of a large turtle. And the universities, rather arrogantly, claimed that they too supported the entire world. They're like that. Hence, tertiary.

EDIT: Of course, that was a long time ago. Nowadays we know that is not true . About them supporting the world . So they shouldn't really be called tertiary I suppose.

[Quartermile]

See you don't learn that these days in this dam PC world!!!!

[kro]

The PC train took away our corporal punishment years ago, and look what happened. The kids who never got a smack at home had nothing to fear at school either, and they became the bullies, and bastards at school. Obviously, this is not the only cause of bullying, and shitheads,

Well done to your daughter, I would have supported her 100% too, because it's not so often you see the younger people protesting because of their peers, because that would be uncool, but these teens obviously want action, and I hope they get it.

The threat of detentions etc from the school is just the headmaster not knowing how to handle the problem whilst the government has his hands tied behind his back. I would not want to be an educator today, it would frustrate the hell out of me not being able to sort out the bad eggs properly.

[Guitana]

Rage Against the Machine!!!!
I hope you encourage your daughter!! It's good to see these kids voice their concerns why should they back down if the principal has no balls he should fuck off!!!!
As for those pricks that bottled the young fella what's next kicking a pizza boys head in just for kicks!!! Fucken Mongrels!!!
You as parents should be down there protesting and backing them up two days suspension is a joke!!!
Fucken Brilliant let us know how it pans out!!!!!!!

[NotaGoth]

I don't think the schools dished out a hefty enough punishment at all..... And would say that it is more than likely that your daughter, and those who protested will be in for the raw end of the deal... And a heftier punishment than the fuckwit who thinks its ok to bottle another kid... Don't know what calling the cops would do because don't you have to be a certain age before an assault charge can be laid...?

Good on them for sticking up for themselves and their rights though... Shows your girl will definately go somewhere in life because she has the mind to stand up and speak out when need be... Same with all the others who are involved... Awesome stuff to hear...

By the way in reply to the injury, get the guy a bottle of vitamin e oil.... Been there done that... And I swear by it... Just apply morning and night... Won't make it go away but should help with fading...

[Wasp]

Hell yea NCEA is designed for idiots to pass but somehow some F***wits still manage to fail??
level 1 and 2 (5th and 6th form) i found easy enough to pass, i didnt sit 7th as my work was offering a good job.

recently I caught up with a few old school mates (seperately, not together) and none of them got UE (university entrance) and they all said about 3/4 of the school also didnt get it

so whats this about it being easy?

[Guitana]

Maybe these kids should form an angry mob and stand in a circle kicking these little fucks unconcious!!!! They might decide that violence dose'nt pay after that!!!!

[Swoop]

The newspaper reporters turned up and so did TV 3...
Watch out for those buggers, they will drive into your car given half a chance :angry:


Sounds like you have much to be proud of with your kids Terbang!

[Dilligaf]

Come one the REAL question is.... did her walk out merit more of a punishment than jabbing a broken bottle in someone's face????

[Beemer]

Come one the REAL question is.... did her walk out merit more of a punishment than jabbing a broken bottle in someone's face????

It's a sad world when it appears that the actions of kids who decided to stand up for what they believe in are deemed out of order while a kid who bottles another only warrants a two-day suspension.

I had respect for teachers when I was at school - I may not have liked some of them but I respected them and behaved myself. I never saw the level of violence or disrepect common nowadays, and it's not THAT long ago either!

A woman who works with my husband said it all yesterday - many people are growing up with a victim mentality. Whenever anything goes wrong, it's never their fault, someone else is always to blame. Hell, the family of the guy who appears to have died of a drug overdose in Levin the other day are apparently spreading it around that he was murdered! Sure takes the blame off someone taking illegal substances and dying as a result of it.

[terbang]

There have been a couple of touchey feeley meetings between students and school management that have mainly focused on placating the evils of protest on the school ground. There has been scant attention paid to a mob of shitheads who, along with a whole string of other disruptive & violent behaviour, bottled another kid. Parent and teacher support is rapidly growing as this thing grows bigger than Ben Hur (well for Waiuku). The terrible bunkers have all been marked as truant (requested by the headmaster) and their final fate is yet to be decided upon. Rachel, being the truancy person at the college, actually had quite a proud moment marking her own child as 'truant' over this matter and has also voiced her opinion loud and clear to a very out of touch (surprise surprise) school management.

Whilst this incident, relative to the big scheme of things, is a mere storm in a tea cup, it certainly highlights some of the PC stupidity in our NZ society that is making even our youth (the future) uncomfortable.

[Guitana]

Fuck em stand up for your kids right to get an education unmolested by thugs! As for the kids right to protest the last time I checked we were'nt a part of China yet!!!!!!

[Squeak the Rat]

Getting bottled at school is lower than low. It sucks that the offender will jus get a slap on the wrist.

Ditto to the above comments about your kids and your parenting tb.

[The Pastor]

So some nigga got bottled who cares.


Well we know the school doesnt!!

[bert_is_evil]

:Punk: Good on your daughter! You must be really proud of her

[avgas]

Just kill the little shits - they are never going to contribute to society anyhow

[Quartermile]

level 1 and 2 (5th and 6th form) i found easy enough to pass, i didnt sit 7th as my work was offering a good job.

recently I caught up with a few old school mates (seperately, not together) and none of them got UE (university entrance) and they all said about 3/4 of the school also didnt get it

so whats this about it being easy?

That's ridiculas all you need is 14 credits in three subjects to get UE, so you don't even need to pass level three to get UE you can't tell me that's hard!!

[LilSel]

A two day suspension is a joke... they need to get hard on violent acts...

[Quartermile]

A two day suspension is a joke... they need to get hard on violent acts...

But that might hurt the little fellas feelings:gob:

[LilSel]

But that might hurt the little fellas feelings:gob:

and?? lol.... Its bollocks really...
the BOT should be be enforcing stricter conditions for that pupil to return to school... if they are not adhered to... then the student should get expelled...

[SPman]

im gonna be tough on kids, what happened to the days whe you were scared of your parents, and that fear translated into respect?
Fear NEVER translates to respect!

We taught our kids to question everything, including authority, and respect is something that is earnt, by actions or intentions.

Sounds like there are other kids like that out there as well - great stuff Bruce.
School violence needs to be stamped out before it gets this far and that means from the top.
What a softcock headmaster - sounds like a mealy mouthed manager, not a headmaster from the ranks....

[Patrick]

2 days off school... that'll learn him and his mates... should have kicked them out of school all together. Didn't see anything in the news about it though

Assault with intent to injure at the minimum, injuring with intent more likely... both punishable by lengthy prison terms (although that would not happen to these kids). Should most definitely be reported to the Police.:Police:

If they are 14, they can be charged. If not, they can still be reported for Youth Aid Action, which MAY turn them around (note - MAY... might not, but worth a crack???). Youth Aid could do many things, particularly if they are already known to the Police, including removal from their own home where their parents are useless retards...:brick:

Good on your girl organising a protest...:Punk::2thumbsup it gives me hope that the new generation actually do give a stuff about something this important and are willing to do something about it, because those that should won't... unlike so many of the P.C. generation of now... :shutup:

They shouldn't receive any form of "punishment" whatsoever... if the school had done something about the problem in the first place, it wouldn't have happened.

Perhaps a protest about being punished because of a protest about bullying is next on the agenda???? If there is any punishment, let the media know...:rockon: I'd say they would be very interested....

[LilSel]

2 days off school... that'll learn him and his mates... should have kicked them out of school all together. Didn't see anything in the news about it though

Assault with intent to injure at the minimum, injuring with intent more likely... both punishable by lengthy prison terms (although that would not happen to these kids). Should most definitely be reported to the Police.:Police:

If they are 14, they can be charged. If not, they can still be reported for Youth Aid Action, which MAY turn them around (note - MAY... might not, but worth a crack???). Youth Aid could do many things, particularly if they are already known to the Police, including removal from their own home where their parents are useless retards...:brick:

Good on your girl organising a protest...:Punk::2thumbsup it gives me hope that the new generation actually do give a stuff about something this important and are willing to do something about it, because those that should won't... unlike so many of the P.C. generation of now... :shutup:

They shouldn't receive any form of "punishment" whatsoever... if the school had done something about the problem in the first place, it wouldn't have happened.

Perhaps a protest about being punished because of a protest about bullying is next on the agenda???? If there is any punishment, let the media know...:rockon: I'd say they would be very interested....

Very good points Patrick... *bling* to you matey!!! :Punk:

[Patrick]

I assume the cops were called to protect the principal? I tell ya now, they all would have been cheering the kids on inwardly (since we can't openly take sides in uniform...).:innocent:

[V4ME]

wow - you know what I think - The yanks lead the way - (guns and shooting in school etc) - but in our Helen Clark society - we don't wanna follow - no! we wanna go one step better - PC sucks.
Good on your daughter - Waiuku - lead the way - show us how to do it - Teachers and headmasters take a note out of a kids vision.

[Quartermile]

Even if the police get involved they are pretty soft in New Zealand, or more the Justice system, life sentance is what about 20 years and if your a good little mudering rapist you can get off lighter for good behavior!!!

[Patrick]

Even if the police get involved they are pretty soft in New Zealand, or more the Justice system, life sentance is what about 20 years and if your a good little mudering rapist you can get off lighter for good behavior!!!

20??? try 10... then get parole, where they keep you on a tight leash... yeah right, ay, Graeme BURTON.........

[Batcerb]

...my mother used to talk about her father using a stock whip on the kids,she was even shot at,hearing the bullet go over her head.She used the ''wooden spoon'' on us,and most likely thought she was giving us an upbringing in paradise......

In my mums case, her father saw fit to level a round of birdshot into her legs.

Crazy things people do....

[terbang]

This arrived in the mail today. Whats the views..? To me it sounds like a lot of PC drivel when what we really have here is a bunch of shithead loosers that split a kids head open getting the full PC benefit (pferdsheise) that our society offers.

[KATWYN]

The softcock headmaster is now stating that because it happened just outside the school gates (only a few metres) that it was ouside of his boundary of responsibility.

So why the suspension..? All protesting children are now marked as truant and will also face punsihment.

In one sentance the headmaster has said the schools not taking
responsibility cos the kids were outside the bounderies

But in another sentance the school is taking responsibility and suspending these "naughty" kids who were "outside the bounderies"

So what is it??? Is the school responsible or not.
They can't have it both ways....can they?

[scumdog]

This arrived in the mail today. Whats the views..? To me it sounds like a lot of PC drivel when what we really have here is a bunch of shithead loosers that split a kids head open getting the full PC benefit (pferdsheise) that our society offers.


So let me get this right:
The principal is trying to say your daughter and compatriots 'jumped the gun' with their actions, that all the legal and required aspects of dealing with the offending parties had been taken care of?

Sheesh, so what's your worry?? (p/t)

[James Deuce]

This arrived in the mail today. Whats the views..? To me it sounds like a lot of PC drivel when what we really have here is a bunch of shithead loosers that split a kids head open getting the full PC benefit (pferdsheise) that our society offers.

So you wrote a letter right back telling him to communicate with his students in future so that they don't end up feeling powerless in what feels like a dangerous situation in future?

[Motoracer]

So long as there is communication issues can be sorted.....

Unless "666" is your offspring's birth mark, I'd fully agree with Motu.

You have to be smart.

When growing up I didn't really get bashed at home but back in Nepal you get beaten up in schools. I got up to the stage where it was almost fun. Like I'd be as bad as I could to get the worst possible punishment which in return gave me a bit of a cool status or respect among the students. All I was craving for back then was an intelligent adult to treat me like an adult. But no, they were a bunch of neanderthals. So I just thought, "you want to treat me like an animal? Then what you will get is an animal"..

I guess not all kids are the same. But I'd fully raise my kids with out beating them.

[BarBender]

It would be good to send something in response to the above circulation that supports the students protest. The school recognises what they did and some reinforcement from parents would add some bite i.e. - A message of future offenders beware!

Comms of disciplinary process looks like it was left wanting after the incident. But I suspect the the letter from the principal may not have been written and circulated had it not been for the actions of your daughter and her friends. What an awesome bunch of kids!

Good to see something good come out of Waiuku. I hate the place. I always play shit golf at Waiuku and Clarkes and the last time I ventured out to Aucklands arse end was to my 11 year old sons soccer game. I and some other parents got involved in some verbal slanging and fisticuffs with parents of the opposing team. Kids had to break it up.

You're all related out them parts arent you Bruce?? :p:

[terbang]

Related..! Hah we are new blood to the area, I'm from elswhere in NZ, though a westie at heart and Rach is a Pom. Tetoro has about 5 houses and a hall spread out over an area as big as Howick. 'Lebensraum' is what that offers. Yeah Waiuku, hated the place for a start but it grows on ya. Just noted the the captain of the QM 2 berthed in AKL is from Waiuku..

[BarBender]

Just noted the the captain of the QM 2 berthed in AKL is from Waiuku..

Oh God...So we can expect the Hilton to be in the Sunday papers...

"Waiuku Royalty Parks QM 2 On Top Of 5 Star Hotel"

[Squeak the Rat]

Feck its a small world, I just found out who the bottled kid was. Evidently after the tough guy bottled him all his mates jumped in and put the boot in while he was down.

Where's that sword???

[terbang]

Twas on Closeup tonite..Jeez that principal should be put into Pointless Drivel for that effort.

[doc]

Related..! Hah we are new blood to the area, I'm from elswhere in NZ, though a westie at heart and Rach is a Pom. Tetoro has about 5 houses and a hall spread out over an area as big as Howick. 'Lebensraum' is what that offers. Yeah Waiuku, hated the place for a start but it grows on ya. Just noted the the captain of the QM 2 berthed in AKL is from Waiuku..I've lived in this region for 25 years and am still the newbie, Waiuku has a reputation of inbreeding, blame it on the Steel Mill or whatever. Mind you the local phone book does have consecutive pages with the same name for a little book. It also had the highest suicide rate in the world per capita not too long ago . But the real estate is cheap. 5 years ago out here you use to feel intimidated driving thru the town at midnight just to pick your teenager from the supervised dances at the local Hall. Ferkin heck I think the boy racer and alcopops were started out here.

[doc]

P.S. The police refer to Waiuku as "Inbreed County"

[Pixie]

The cops were called by the teachers who were unprepared for such civil unrest and had no Idea on how to handle it.

Teachers have no idea, period

[Pixie]

EDIT: Of course, that was a long time ago. Nowadays we know that is not true . About them supporting the world . So they shouldn't really be called tertiary I suppose.

Now it's held aloft by a giant ,tree hugging, cockroach

[Pixie]

... Don't know what calling the cops would do because don't you have to be a certain age before an assault charge can be laid...?



Easily fixed...the complainant should tell the cops he was SPANKED with a bottle

[Lou Girardin]

We were caned at school for offences that happened ANYWHERE while we were in uniform.
But you can't expect teachers to do anything constructive (and controversial) when they're all looking to retirement as Labour party MP's.

[sAsLEX]

The softcock headmaster is now stating that because it happened just outside the school gates (only a few metres) that it was ouside of his boundary of responsibility. So why the suspension..?

Are they not responsible/legal guardians for kids once they leave home on there way to school and on their return journey? Thats what I was always told at school.

[sAsLEX]

EDIT: Of course, that was a long time ago. Nowadays we know that is not true . About them supporting the world . So they shouldn't really be called tertiary I suppose.

Alot of societies advances are still coming out of Uni's......... guided and directed by the commercial opportunity they have though

[Guitana]

Are they not responsible/legal guardians for kids once they leave home on there way to school and on their return journey? Thats what I was always told at school.

No they only take on that responsibility when they're in school grounds!!
Fuck that for a joke one teenager's more than enuff for me to handle let alone three hundred of the spotty little bastards!!!!!!