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Laava
17th February 2007, 15:23
I ordered this Pro-Oiler from Belgium at a cost of $360 to my door. www.pro-oiler.com It was here in about 10 days. It was all bubble wrapped and has very concise instructions.
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The first thing to do was drill and tap 2x 3.25mm[3.5] holes with a 4mm tap that I just happened to have. The 'structions said the bolts were self tapping but didn't look it to me. Then bolt on the twin nozzle on the 'clean' sprocket using aforementioned holes. Easy. Fully clean chain and sprockets with Kero before you start!
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Then you need to mount the controller on the dash or somewhere you can easy access. It has a 6 core cable that needs to be routed to the junction box, [under the seat is where I chose to put mine] Then you need to find a place to put the tiny oil pump and oil bottle[200mls approx]. I put the oil pump next to the junction box[It only has short wires] and put the oil bottle in the tail section firmly secured in place by some spare gloves!
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If you look at the under seat photo[crap photo sorry!] you can see the junction box at centre right and the pump at centre top, zip tied and with an oil line going in and out.
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I chose to tap into my tail light wiring for power as it is hard wired and close. On a bike with electronic speedo you have to also tap into the 'Hall sensor'. Once the sensor wiring is located, it is a matter of determining which one to use. Mine has; a power, an earth and an output, so it was just a matter of checking the wiring diagram. Oops! They've changed colours from the diagram I have so out comes the tester. With ign on; one has 12v, one has 4v approx and one was found to be earth. The 4v one is the boy. Connected everything as per instuctions and we're ready for programming. You have to spin the wheel x no of times to determine the correction factor which basically means that for me, there is 9.7 pulsed signals fed to the speedo for each wheel revolution. [This will change if I change sprockets as the sensor is on the front sprocket.] This needs to be programmed in to the controller and then your bikes individual requirements re chain size/length etc. There is an unbelievably complicated formula here to calculate this, but they give a Blackbird as an example so I used this as a benchmark. Sounds overly complicated doesn't it? But once done, you can dramatically increase or decrease oil flow on the move and when you stop,so does the oiler. As it is speed sensitive, at high speed, it is pumping 2x what it would cruising and at low speeds, the reverse. I am still fine tuning but it works and hopefully will have been worth it!

98tls
17th February 2007, 15:40
Any idea how it compares to a scott oiler..........a bloke i know has one on his Sv but hes just given up on trying to get it to go right....was either nothing coming out or way to much creating a hell of a mess.

Laava
17th February 2007, 16:00
It's $120 more and a lot more complicated but in theory it is set and forget. The twin nozzle thing was a bonus as well, but you have to be aware of it when you tighten the chain or especially changing a tyre. So the bloke you know has a pro-oiler or scott?

timg
19th February 2007, 21:17
Hi, I'd be keen to hear what you think of it after a bit of use. Where (site?) exactly did you order it from? If you add another $49 for the double sided Scott oiler head it make's it less expensive in comparison. I'm still fence sitting :-) Cheers, Tim.

98tls
19th February 2007, 21:35
It's $120 more and a lot more complicated but in theory it is set and forget. The twin nozzle thing was a bonus as well, but you have to be aware of it when you tighten the chain or especially changing a tyre. So the bloke you know has a pro-oiler or scott? A scott oiler mate...........maybe its faulty....who knows but very very hard to get right........as above be very interested in how this thing you have goes after a few kms.......let us know............

Flyingpony
20th February 2007, 07:47
I reviewed the Pro-Oiler before deciding to buy the Loobman for $50.

It was my plan to buy the 12V DC EMX-08 pump ($~100) the Pro-Oiler uses and semi-automate the Loobman. The only other thing I'll have to purchase would be waterproof button switch, cables and a bottle breather.

Most definitely let us know how you like the Pro-Oiler setup.

Edit1: Are those twin tips tubes because then you'll have to keep an eye on blockages. Mine are zip ties, not a worry and readily replaceable.

Edit2: The pump is made by GoTec, so you just need to find a distributor in your nearest big town. I'm 99% confident that they'll have to specially order it in, they may even deny it exists (as happened during my enquiries in Chch), because 99% of companies use the AC version in their food colouring (et al) mixing machines. Some more info about the pump here (http://www.clarksol.com/html/prodspecsEMX08Pump.htm) and here (http://www.novamaxindustrial.com/Gotec.htm).

Laava
20th February 2007, 17:27
Probably done about 4ookm since fitting, took me a while to figure that I had adjusted it wrong. As it is a feed based on speed only, it isn't immediately obvious that it has increased in flow rate. It takes about 30km to show up. It will take me a while to fully test it tho. Timg, I ordered it direct from the manufacturer www.pro-oiler.com F-P They are tube type nozzles but are a snug fit, hopefully this will help stop them clogging. You are brave going into the setup you describe, if it is the same pump, it is capable of an enormous variation of oil delivery volume. How will you control it? Might be simpler to just buy the kit? Any way hope this helps you guys.

Flyingpony
21st February 2007, 10:52
Good questions:

The EMX-08 is an oscillating piston pump. When feed DC power, you have to turn the power on/off for it to pump, unlike when feed AC power. On AC it'll pump at the rate of the supplied AC Hertz. This piston pump design is more akin with solenoid vs electric motor - see links in my previous post.

Therefore, one needs to have a push button switch like on the horn/starter in order to activate the pump. One push equals one pump oscillation - holding the button won't bring extra oscillations. It will therefore be a manual approach to oiling the chain, unless a controller is added. Ref Hawke Oiler (http://www.hawkeoiler.com/index.html).

As for the twin oil delivery tips, recommend you give them a clean with kero each time the chain is cleaned - that's what I do.

I think you've bought a good kit there, it's just not in my budget range.