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TerminalAddict
18th February 2007, 11:35
So I took the VFR for a test ride yesterday ...

today I thought I might have a read thru the specs

http://www.honda-motorcycles.co.nz


hacked by vpn0...


dom team in ur b0x

we are ArCaX-ATH ; vpn0 ; Nitronet ; Arp ; Xarnuz

contact: drwxrx at gmail.com



nada ha sido borrado, solo hemos reemplazado el index por el nuestro ;)

greets: nwx0x

Spain 2007

Disco Dan
18th February 2007, 11:37
Computer says no...

bistard
18th February 2007, 11:44
What do these Wankers actually achieve,other than pissing people off!!

Chickadee
18th February 2007, 11:49
er....they piss people off. That's their point.

It's like people who tag - they are trying to say "I'm a dumbarse that can't spell so will mis-spell stuff 3 feet tall on a wall"

Same mentality, different medium.

xwhatsit
18th February 2007, 11:54
LOL. Probably just some script kiddies too.

Don't call them `hackers'. A hacker is a very complementary thing to say -- basically means a very, very knowledeable and powerful programmer. Definitely not somebody who would do malicious things to a website.

The word you want is `cracker'. For some reason, the media (and Hollywood) has confused the two words.

Honda NZ must have had some pretty glaring security flaws to let that kind of low-end scum in.

notme
18th February 2007, 12:11
At least it seems to only be the front page.....

Try http://www.honda-motorcycles.co.nz/training.asp then use the menus to navigate the site.

petermonkeyguru
18th February 2007, 12:19
Hey terminal - you got permission to trade up yet:Police:

petermonkeyguru
18th February 2007, 12:22
I thought yu were'nt impressed with the VFR and was wanting a CBR

bobsmith
18th February 2007, 12:26
LOL. Probably just some script kiddies too.

Don't call them `hackers'. A hacker is a very complementary thing to say -- basically means a very, very knowledeable and powerful programmer. Definitely not somebody who would do malicious things to a website.

The word you want is `cracker'. For some reason, the media (and Hollywood) has confused the two words.

Honda NZ must have had some pretty glaring security flaws to let that kind of low-end scum in.

What he said.

A hacker is someone who deserves the reverence and respect for their knowledge, intuition and creativity with programming.

A cracker on the other hand - usually script kiddies - are people who wants to annoy people or maliciously attack computers for their benefit (be it pleasure, respect from other idiots, financial gain, etc...)

TerminalAddict
18th February 2007, 12:48
I thought yu were'nt impressed with the VFR and was wanting a CBR

well I took the same route home as I took the vfr on, and the speedo suggests that the vfr is a much better bike :)


to everyone else who feels obligated to "teach" me the difference between a hacker, and a cracker

toe-mate-o ... toe-mar-toe ... who really cares .. the sites fucked, by some some little arsehole.

Respect to Disco Dan: ... good reply :first:

petermonkeyguru
18th February 2007, 13:22
roll on test riding a CBR then.
The look on that womans face was pricless - over hearing you talking about finding a bird to ride, Let me know what you think when you've riden one (I mean the bike).

I was told last night the VFR's not very stable in the windies 2 up.

NighthawkNZ
18th February 2007, 13:29
I have had m freeware site hacked, and a few others that were just infomation site.. its a pimply faced snot nosed, puss geek that thinks its kewl, when in reality it does nothing, he gets nothing other than some regonition from other pimply faced snot nosed, puss geeks...

The Pastor
18th February 2007, 13:53
Actually I think these guys are exposing a security flaw and in a way helping honda clean up the website before they loose everything from a dickhead.

xwhatsit
18th February 2007, 13:57
Actually I think these guys are exposing a security flaw and in a way helping honda clean up the website before they loose everything from a dickhead.

And it's fucktard cuntsacks like you, who think they're justified in cracking a site, that piss people off in the industry so much. Fuck off. If they've got security problems in the site, then audit them, and notify the administrator or hosting company. No need to deface their site, that's just being a cunt.

The Pastor
18th February 2007, 14:06
And it's fucktard cuntsacks like you, who think they're justified in cracking a site, that piss people off in the industry so much. Fuck off. If they've got security problems in the site, then audit them, and notify the administrator or hosting company. No need to deface their site, that's just being a cunt.

I didn't say weather I thought it was good or a bad idea numnuts, keep your personal insults to you and your 3 year old friends. What a chode face! All I said was why they did it, I did not condone or not condone that! I had my own website hacked. You should stop drinking so much beers its ruining your life.

But, re the "Then audit them, and notify the administrator or hosting company." Tui. How often will that work........ They didnt do much damamge and it could be restored within 5 mins.

Sniper
18th February 2007, 14:07
And it's fucktard cuntsacks like you, who think they're justified in cracking a site, that piss people off in the industry so much. Fuck off. If they've got security problems in the site, then audit them, and notify the administrator or hosting company. No need to deface their site, that's just being a cunt.

Easy there tiger. Renegade master has a point as do you. You are only serving to label yourself a target with outbursts like that.

He isnt justifying the attack, he just pointing out a differing point of veiw

xwhatsit
18th February 2007, 14:24
Easy there tiger. Renegade master has a point as do you. You are only serving to label yourself a target with outbursts like that.

He isnt justifying the attack, he just pointing out a differing point of veiw

Lol. Yeah probably. But you keep hearing this same viewpoint perpetrated over and over again by script kiddies, that they're somehow doing the rest of us a `service' by defacing sites, which is a load of crap. There are only very narrow confines where such a defacement or other malicious act is acceptable -- if the administrator has been notified several times already, and has ignored or denied the possibility of a security issue. Contrary to your opinion, Renegade, nine times out of ten notifying whoever is in charge (especially of a large commercial website like that) will result in some investigation.

If the issue is still not taken care of, and you really feel strongly that it should be taken care of, there is no need to put bullshit cracker-speak on the page -- perhaps something more constructive like the security flaws exploited to give you write access to the page -- I've seen it done.

These are just mindless little kids, using somebody else's pre-written scripts and exploits, trying to impress their mates. Nothing more.

scracha
18th February 2007, 20:36
Honda NZ must have had some pretty glaring security flaws to let that kind of low-end scum in.

Have you ever tried keeping websites patched up? Might not even be their fault...some of NZ's hosts including iHug are running on old $hite servers

http://www.piakocomputers.co.nz/

xwhatsit
18th February 2007, 20:44
Have you ever tried keeping websites patched up? Might not even be their fault...some of NZ's hosts including iHug are running on old $hite servers

http://www.piakocomputers.co.nz/

No, in fact I'm rather glad I'm not a sysadmin. Keeping a server secure? Well not running IIS has got to be part of it :D [p/t -- it's not that bad].

But for low-end script-kiddie wannabes like it looks took care of Honda NZ, they must've left it lying around for a while. In these days of `Patch Tuesday', it's not nearly as hard as it used to be.

TerminalAddict
18th February 2007, 21:03
No, in fact I'm rather glad I'm not a sysadmin.


that makes 2 of us ... I'm glad *YOU'RE* not a sys admin too

btw: scratcha .. quik bought all their domains from us .. was a shocking week .... people wanting UDAI's left right a and centre :bye:

j_redley
19th February 2007, 00:25
I had a vB I admined hacked through the server once. Fucktards redirected to a page they had created which so kindly informed we had been hacked. 5 minutes later the site was back on board, but as so many have said before... its generally ugly snot nosed kids who can't get laid that bother to sit and do it.

scracha
19th February 2007, 11:42
I had a vB I admined hacked through the server once. Fucktards redirected to a page they had created which so kindly informed we had been hacked. 5 minutes later the site was back on board, but as so many have said before... its generally ugly snot nosed kids who can't get laid that bother to sit and do it.

Yep...complete arseholes. Proper "hackers" do something interesting, normally take money and/or leave no tracks.

Most of the sites I handle are just SME businesses so unless there's a glaringly obvious security flaw (Mambo calendar events component springs to mind) I just regularly back them up and leave them alone. If they get hacked I then apply patches and have them up and running pretty sharpish.

Of course, for the handful of SSL sites taking credit cards that I manage I'm a bit more pro-active.

Brian d marge
19th February 2007, 13:48
What do these Wankers actually achieve,other than pissing people off!!

I have often wondered that ,,the other day i was deleting some spam and I read one of them ... It was just random words ,, I assumed to get email number isp or whatever its called ..

big respect for actuall hackers ,,lots of knowledge ..but kiddies ,,, BRING BACK NATIONAL SERVICE!!!!

Stephen

Lias
20th February 2007, 13:09
Whether the hardcore *nix nerds like it or not, "hacking" is NOT just the terminology applied to kernel hackers etc. For better or worse it is the term accepted by the vast majority of people to apply to the act of breaking computer security. Then again script kiddies dont really deserve to be called either hackers or crackers. I personally use the term hacker for both the alan coxes and kevin mitnicks of the world, but tend to only apply it to black hats that are actually capable of discovering exploits themselves &* crafting exploits rather than simply running a scan tool :-)

To me a cracker is someone who removes copy protection from software. Generally they are also fairly skilled programmers. This definition is fairly popular given the amount of cracks available on the net :-)

Definlty not worth yelling and screaming about though lol.

avgas
20th February 2007, 13:37
why even bother attacking the honda site - its pretty pathetic really.
like tagging on a tui billboard really - all you prove is that your a cock

MikeyG
20th February 2007, 17:26
I had a vB I admined hacked through the server once. Fucktards redirected to a page they had created which so kindly informed we had been hacked. 5 minutes later the site was back on board, but as so many have said before... its generally ugly snot nosed kids who can't get laid that bother to sit and do it.

Looks like that is what they did here as well. The script is in spanish and along with their nicknames says "nothing has been deleted. we have simply replaced your index for our own"