Our forefathers:

[crack]

What a bunch of PC scardies we have become.

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to
people why today's Australian, of is not willing to accept the new kind of
immigrant any longer.

Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to
come to Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in
Sydney and be documented. some would even get down on their hands and knees
and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support
their new country in good and bad times.

They made learning English a primary rule in their new
Australian households and some even changed their names to blend in with
their new home.

They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their
children a new life and did everything in their power to help their
children assimilate into one culture.

Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no
labour laws to protect them. All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and
desire they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.


Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out.
Australians fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from
Germany, Italy, France, Japan,Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, and so many
other places. None of
these first generation Australians ever gave any thought about
what country their parents had come from.


They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor
of Japan.They were defending the Freedom as one people.

When we liberated France, no one in those villages was looking
for the people of France, they saw only Australians. And we carried one
flag that represented our country.

Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking
up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were.

It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had
sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to
be an Australian.

And here we are in 2006/7 with a new kind of immigrant who wants
the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing
with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian passport and
a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.

I'm sorry, that's not what being a Australian is all about.

Australians have been very open hearted and open minded
regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship,
persecution, or whatever else makes a person adopt a foreign country.

And I suppose when we say adopt, we think of those
aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, and our flag and
our morals and our customs. And left their wars, hatred, and divisions
behind.

I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the
early 1900s deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and sacrifice
in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for
those legally searching for a better life.

I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an
example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign battles on
our soil, making Australians change to suit their religions and cultures,
and wanting to change our country's fabric by claiming discrimination when
we do not give in to their demands.

P.S. KEEP THIS LETTER MOVING!! I hope it gets read by millions
of people all across the nation
:shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :shutup: :angry: :whocares:

[Steam]

New Zealand is not a state of Australia. We have our own brains down here, and make up our own minds.

But I see what you're getting at.

[Lou Girardin]

It's different kind of immigrant now, with different motivations.
The 'white Australia' policy was undoubtably racist, but the result speaks for itself.
Those people were determined to be Australians.
The story is the similar in NZ, until the 60's that is. When we decided that cheap labour from the Islands was our cure-all. Then chucked them on the scrapheap when it suited.

[Finn]

We have our own brains down here

No we don't. They've all left are are in Aussie.

[Guitana]

Take Note!!!!!!

[unhingedlizard]

I agree totally. As an ignorant to this country I think that you should always strive to accept the culture of the country you have chosen to live in. If things were the same in NZ as your country of origin whould you really want to live here?

[Timber020]

Nothing makes white whiter and history brighter than if an Aussie writes it. He doesnt mention how bad it was for foreigners or natives in that time. Or how bad it still is, (foreigners are treated like crap to this day) how Aussies kidnapped solomon islanders and used them as slaves, How many aboriginals were murdered, enslaved or stolen from there families. Ah I could go on but its not the kind of history that looks good in history books, let just concentrate on the good stuff!

[Toaster]

Take Note!!!!!!

Just loved that pic dude... brilliant!

[crack]

Nothing makes white whiter and history brighter than if an Aussie writes it. He doesnt mention how bad it was for foreigners or natives in that time. Or how bad it still is, (foreigners are treated like crap to this day) how Aussies kidnapped solomon islanders and used them as slaves, How many aboriginals were murdered, enslaved or stolen from there families. Ah I could go on but its not the kind of history that looks good in history books, let just concentrate on the good stuff!

Name me a country that does not have blemishes in its previous history, and would look good in a history book:

[Motu]

usa!!!!!!!!

[crack]

usa!!!!!!!!


Maybe that is their agenda, to re-write their history, or to make it more interesting anyway.

[98tls]

Nothing makes white whiter and history brighter than if an Aussie writes it. He doesnt mention how bad it was for foreigners or natives in that time. Or how bad it still is, (foreigners are treated like crap to this day) how Aussies kidnapped solomon islanders and used them as slaves, How many aboriginals were murdered, enslaved or stolen from there families. Ah I could go on but its not the kind of history that looks good in history books, let just concentrate on the good stuff! I see your point here but look at the state of this pile of shit we live in since we opened the gates and at the same time promised to make up for the supposed wrong doings of the past................sad thing is its to late to go back...........i like the Fuck off we are full attitude and you could add to the hard done by ones get over it and get off your arse or Fuck off.

[Dave Lobster]

Name me a country that does not have blemishes in its previous history, and would look good in a history book:

All the ones that bleat about how nasty white people are.

[avgas]

Mate what makes you think that our forefathers were slack? i take that as a personal insult as my family line has never been tainted with the bullshit that you talk about.
I have great honour for my forefathers as not only did they work and fight for their country but they fought knowing that wankers inside their own country would fuck up everything for them.
Its not an immigration thing - most cocks have been here for generations.
FYI have you dug a trench in your lifetime.... worked the land.....defended your country against a true enemy of the state????? how about you go try something like that and fuck off until you have a real mans hands.
Your forefathers would be ashamed of your pathetic whine, go prove to them that you were worth the effort. I do everyday.

[Bend-it]

Yeah, but the guvmint is opening arms wide and asking for immigrants. There are lots of countries with much stricter immigration laws, and the question is, if Kiwis and Aussies don't like immigrants so much, then why give them residency in the first place?

[crack]

Mate what makes you think that our forefathers were slack? i take that as a personal insult as my family line has never been tainted with the bullshit that you talk about.
I have great honour for my forefathers as not only did they work and fight for their country but they fought knowing that wankers inside their own country would fuck up everything for them.
Its not an immigration thing - most cocks have been here for generations.
FYI have you dug a trench in your lifetime.... worked the land.....defended your country against a true enemy of the state????? how about you go try something like that and fuck off until you have a real mans hands.
Your forefathers would be ashamed of your pathetic whine, go prove to them that you were worth the effort. I do everyday.


Matey Matey Matey: I'm on your side, in defence of my Fathers Father, my Uncles, and yes Matey, I've been shot at, very CHARACTER BUILDING:

Read Brother read.

[Guitana]

Yeah, but the guvmint is opening arms wide and asking for immigrants. There are lots of countries with much stricter immigration laws, and the question is, if Kiwis and Aussies don't like immigrants so much, then why give them residency in the first place?

And wheres that getting us?? further up shit creek without a roll of toilet paper!! The wealthy asian immigrants have been followed to new zealand by criminal organisations that live off them like parasites!!!
And these guys get away with it because they laugh at our legal systems try the same shit in China and they would end up with a hot lead injection to the back of the head!!!
And now these fuckers are working with new zealand gangs to supply our youth with P and get them hooked so they have more lackies to do their bidding!!!

[Bend-it]

Kerrekt... Someone you've voted for obviously think the money "rich asian immigrants" (another fallacy that one is) bring in is worth the crime.

What I'm saying is, that it's not the immigrants' fault, it's the fault of whoever sets the rules and lets or does not let them in! Nobody's forcibly turning up and imposing themselves on this pristine, perfect white society, if you want the chillies in the meal, you gotta deal with the heat.

[Bend-it]

Oh oh, and also please don't let this develop a "Oh, he's asian, he must be in with the mafia and supplying P to our young people! Lynch him!!" thing yeah? I'm sure we're more mature than that.

In fact, "Us" vs "Them" type discussions get nowhere. Maori have always claimed that the cigarettes and alcohol that the white people brought in affected them, and the whites were much more forceful in their arrival, both in NZ and Aussie. And I suspect the Mariori would have something to say about the Maori arriving as well, if there were any of them left.

It's just 2 different cultures coming together and learning to deal with each other, and the most recent Asian arrival is, as I'm sure we'll agree, the least destructive "cultural integration" this country (and Australia) has seen yet.

I realise "whites" isn't a particularly helpful grouping, but it's just keeping with the "asian" labelling.

[Dave Lobster]

Yeah, but the guvmint is opening arms wide and asking for immigrants. There are lots of countries with much stricter immigration laws, and the question is, if Kiwis and Aussies don't like immigrants so much, then why give them residency in the first place?

Asking for quality immigrants though, not ropey, lazy shites. Aren't all 'civilised' (governmented by european looking people) countries obliged to take a certain amount of alleged refugee people in?

[Quartermile]

Weren't Aussies origonally prisoners, there uphold THAT to your little killer raping stealing forefathers!!!!!!!

[crack]

Weren't Aussies origonally prisoners, there uphold THAT to your little killer raping stealing forefathers!!!!!!!

I love this shit, it just gets better and bettter, people that can't read, people that can only spit fire, and call names.

great stuff:I haven't wittnessed this stuff since my kids were at kindergarten:

One rule for all in "OTHER COUNTRIES" come here and demand your rights, shit:

Littler killer? Raping????? stealing fore Fathers??

Shit the ANZACs were made up of all races, but they were all one people, fighting for one cause, they all held each other, and shared each others sorrows, and losses, they tendered to their wounded and dying with compassion, race didn't matter:
Today what I object to is the LIBERAL room for all, divide and conquer , we have our rights,mentality, with no regard to your hosts countries culture, or respect of its ways or people, just divide and conquer.

Fuck just round up all the "MINORITIES" wanting to be the majority, and have a mass clean out, go for it George.

Now I to can Rant or Rave, am I sincere? am I a deranged fool? am I playing you peices of shit at your own game?

All smoke and mirrors I like that quote!

:whocares: :whocares: :whocares: :whocares: :whocares: :whocares:

[Quartermile]

Haha

Sorry didn't mean for anyone to take my little comments that seriously but still can't stop giggling to myself while I type this,

I guess that I as a person just don't really take alot seriously unless it matters and I really don't have a huge amount of time for serious past and history types like a certain race wanting owned lands back.

As I see it the past is history and we should focus on now !!!

[Steam]

Any of you heard of Parihaka, and what happened there?

[Bend-it]

This?

http://www.historic.org.nz/magazinefeatures/2000aug/2000_08c_single.html

Basically peaceful Maori village gets invaded but redneck militia, men carted off to Otago to build roads, village demolished and cattle killed in 1879-1883.

[Guitana]

This?

http://www.historic.org.nz/magazinefeatures/2000aug/2000_08c_single.html

Basically peaceful Maori village gets invaded but redneck militia, men carted off to Otago to build roads, village demolished and cattle killed in 1879-1883.

And you would have a genuine greivance if that had happened to you!!
All over greed for land!!! Those rich colonial families that were involved in the theft of tribal land for their own profit with the help of the Govt of the day should be made to re-imburse Maori and apologise for their actions!!!!!!
Not the taxpayer!!!!!

[Bend-it]

I agree with you... but treaty claims belongs in another thread.

What I'm saying is, that 2 cultures living in the same piece of real estate will always take adjusting and getting used to, and the recent immigrations have been much kinder to the host culture than previous ones have been. Incidentally, the people complaining are often of the previous "invading" culture.

Either live and try to understand / learn to deal with new arrivals (most problems with other cultures stem from misunderstandings), or decide that you don't want them and adjust immigration policy acordingly. I suspect we're stuck with the former option.

Edit: I don't mean newcomers get to run the place, but it's not realistic to expect people to "kiwi-nize" instantly, especially when they get ignored for not being "kiwi" enough. The vast majority arrive WANTING to learn and integrate with the local culture, but find walls put up at every turn, so retreat back into their own cultural groups of friends. Ones that have bumped into people who've helped them adapt have done very well! Some can even drive!

[davereid]

Be careful in revising those immigration laws of yours.
We got careless with ours.

advice given to Herbert Humphrey by an American Indian from New Mexico

[Guitana]

My forefathers were a bunch of drunken Irish ship jumpers in the Hawkesbay (well they had to jump ship cos it caught fire!) during the late 1800's! When they finally sobered up they realised they had jumped the wrong ship as they were only heading to England!! But on looking around them discovered that the local native girls all had their tits out and were more than accomodating!! Paradise!!
As you can imagine this was a drunken irishmans dream come true!
So they set about working the land and soon after negotiations with local maori were able to purchase some land which they worked hard to turn their patch of land into a farm and this farm is still in the family today!! Many of my Grandfathers brothers fought in the following world wars and a number of them were decorated for bravery and a number of them died on the battlefeild too!! I think they would be a little dissapointed with todays generation and their attitudes, but they would probably be too drunk and fighting among themselves to have noticed anyway!!!!!

[crack]

Any of you heard of Parihaka, and what happened there?

Come on you lot, answer steam? or shall I enlighten you? guess I will then.

The BRITISH rounded up all the women & children, and drove them over the cliffs, some woman & female kids raped, male children baynoted.

If anyone wants a good NZ history book Read " The New Zealand Wars"

Forgotten the Author.

NZ is only a very young country, in some way it makes this even more recent.

Another useless fact: The concentration camp, often associated with Germany, had its foundings by the British , being developed durring the Bore Wars.

Hardly pointless drivel.
:whocares: :whocares:

[Guitana]

Come on you lot, answer steam? or shall I enlighten you? guess I will then.

The BRITISH rounded up all the women & children, and drove them over the cliffs, some woman & female kids raped, male children baynoted.

If anyone wants a good NZ history book Read " The New Zealand Wars"

Forgotten the Author.

NZ is only a very young country, in some way it makes this even more recent.

Another useless fact: The concentration camp, often associated with Germany, had its foundings by the British , being developed durring the Bore Wars.

Hardly pointless drivel.
:whocares: :whocares:

Yes well alot of attitudes toward Maori by Pakeha are simply born of ignorance
we all need to accept our differences pay reparations and work towards building a safe and secure envoironment for our children ignore it and it will only get worse!!!

[Finn]

We all need to accept our differences pay reparations and work towards building a safe and secure envoironment for our children ignore it and it will only get worse!!!

So let me get this straight. We've got to pay maori money so they stop stealing our shit?

[Lias]

So let me get this straight. We've got to pay maori money so they stop stealing our shit?

No, we have to pay money so they slow down the rate at which they steal our shit.

All the money in the world cant take the warrior gene away :nono:

[Finn]

No, we have to pay money so they slow down the rate at which they steal our shit.

But the more money we pay them, the more they steal. Somethings not quite right.

[Lias]

But the more money we pay them, the more they steal. Somethings not quite right.

Maye we should stop paying them, and steal all our shit back?

[Guitana]

Maye we should stop paying them, and steal all our shit back?

But hold the phone WHITEY stole it in the first place and won't give it back!!!!

[ManDownUnder]

We have our own brains down here, and make up our own minds.



What he said...!

[Quartermile]

Screw that they may have called dibs on NZ but we made a trade and said NO TAKEBACKS!!!!!