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spookytooth
19th February 2007, 18:40
Just had this sent to me.
NZ Police to upgrade radar-based speed cameras | Print |
Ken Lewis
Monday, 19 February 2007
The New Zealand Police is looking to replace its radar-based mobile speed cameras and is seeking proposals from suitably qualified organisations.
The devices are a key part of the police's ongoing road safety campaign, which has seen the lowest road fatality rate in 40 years.
Despite these results, speed remains the number one killer of vehicle users, so the enforcement of speed limits remain a key area of highway policing.
To this end, the law enforcement agency is after a device that can automatically detect vehicles travelling in excess of a preset speed trigger limit and that can also capture an image of that vehicle. Date, speed and other details should also be added to the image so that enforcement action can be taken.
The department also requires software to manage the technology, along with solutions to manage the transfer of the captured data to the central processing centre.
Full documentation can be obtained by emailing: tenders.national@police.govt.nz. This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it This RFP closes on April 6, 2007.
If they all become photo based, next thing is they will want number plates on the front of bikes!
Lou Girardin
19th February 2007, 19:29
What's the bet that they go to Ku band as in Europe.
My V1 detects Ku, go for it boys!
Toaster
19th February 2007, 21:10
How about a campaign to fight crime huh?
Gremlin
20th February 2007, 23:22
How about a campaign to fight crime huh?
don't you read the papers?!??!?!?! this IS THE MOST HENIOUS crime!! :zzzz:
James Deuce
20th February 2007, 23:28
Speed doesn't kill. The sudden stop does. Silly Police. They need Stop cameras.
NighthawkNZ
21st February 2007, 06:07
Speed doesn't kill. The sudden stop does. Silly Police. They need Stop cameras.
Here I was under the illusion that its stupid people that kill :scratch: next you will tell me that easter bunny isn't real...
Lou Girardin
21st February 2007, 06:08
Speed is the number one killer on the road today. It is responsible for 357% of all accidents.
Why, just this week a girl fell off the boot of a moving car and died. The Police are stumped why it happened because the driver wasn't speeding.
I say that there should be speed cameras every 100 metres on all roads. Then no-one would die. Ever.
idleidolidyll
21st February 2007, 06:12
How about a campaign to fight crime huh?
indeed
fight crime instead of collect revenue? that'd need a fundamental change in philosophy
NighthawkNZ
21st February 2007, 06:19
Speed is the number one killer on the road today. It is responsible for 357% of all accidents.
Why, just this week a girl fell off the boot of a moving car and died. The Police are stumped why it happened because the driver wasn't speeding.
I say that there should be speed cameras every 100 metres on all roads. Then no-one would die. Ever.
and make it so walking pass the them sets them off... :-) that way speed won't kill pedistrans either... (cause when yuou bump into someone...
oh oh and the microchip thing... with GPS tracking on persons and vehicles and can be used for speed, and if your signal is the write one the chip disables the big and and and have a laser beam from the satilite that shoots and cage driver for doing studip things on the road...
and and then you use it to track crimes and fry there brains when they do crime, or just cause you don't like them, (saves money on our prison system) and will have less crime...
While we are at it lets have it make fracking coffee in the morning :(
need coffee...
:rofl:
gixermike
21st February 2007, 08:52
this is what happedn in the uk a few years back. fixed cameras are cheaper than the HP.
at least fixed cameras are easier to dodge...and the police get less interested in having mobile sites in the same area....
but in between the cameras
davereid
21st February 2007, 09:04
OK, so you go and buy two welding helmets, the type with the LCD glass that turns black instantly you strike the arc.
Remove the glass, and put one sheet over the left hand side of your number plate, and one sheet over the right hand side.
At (say) 25 hz you switch first the left hand side to black, then alternate to the right hand side.
ie one side of your number plate is always covered.
The police wont notice - persistance of vision will show the entire number plate to a human observer.
But a camera with a flash has only a 1/10,000 sec of flash. So it will only ever record one side of the plate.
So bring on the speed cameras - its the last ticket I'll ever get !
ManDownUnder
21st February 2007, 09:07
Bugger speeding... Diesels are the problem!
Min of Health figures (can't find 'em at the mo - were on telly the other day)... fine air particulates from Diesel vehicles are responsible for 400 deaths a year.
Those are reliable deaths... noe of this hit and miss stuff with speeding (excuse the dreadful pun)
more_fasterer
21st February 2007, 09:18
the police's ongoing road safety campaign, which has seen the lowest road fatality rate in 40 years.
HAHAHAHA!
speed remains the number one killer of vehicle users
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Statistics: proving your lies are the truth since ages ago
vifferman
21st February 2007, 09:24
this is what happedn in the uk a few years back. fixed cameras are cheaper than the HP.
at least fixed cameras are easier to dodge...and the police get less interested in having mobile sites in the same area....
but in between the cameras
I was pleased to read that a town in the US got rid of speed cameras by attacking them with paintball guns until the authorities got the message and removed them. I also liked the campaign in the UK to destroy Gatsos (fixed speed cameras), usually by blowing them up or throwing burning tyres over them. At several hundred thousand squid a time, it soon becomes uneconomic to keep replacing them.
What I don't get is this: if there are several hundred thousand (365k, wasn't it??) speed camera tickets a year, and if most people are speeding, doesn't this clearly state that people think the speed limits are too low? And aren't the laws of the land supposed to reflect the will of the people?
The same with the public opposition to toll roads: the general populace have empahtically stated they are NOT in favour of these, yet the Gummint is persisting in trying to go this route.
In both cases, the Gummint is trying to overcome opposition to what they do by using brainwashing campaigns to change the way we think. It seems to be working in some ways - I was browsing that dreadful Snap't website yesterday, and there were some lemmings on there emphatically stating that Speed Kills, despite evidence posted by KB members that this was erroneous. State an untruth often enough and loudly enough, and it becomes fact? Like Globular Yawning?
Squeak the Rat
21st February 2007, 09:31
Bugger speeding... Diesels are the problem!
Min of Health figures (can't find 'em at the mo - were on telly the other day)... fine air particulates from Diesel vehicles are responsible for 400 deaths a year.
Those are reliable deaths... noe of this hit and miss stuff with speeding (excuse the dreadful pun)
Exactly. And at the same time the powers that be are stupid enough to expect us to believe their arguments that speed cameras and enforcement isn't about revenue earning.
If they truly wanted to save New Zealanders lives they'd be addressing this problem also...... but the cost of saving these lives is too high obviously.
James Deuce
23rd February 2007, 09:42
And aren't the laws of the land supposed to reflect the will of the people?
No.
10fc
avgas
23rd February 2007, 09:50
How about a speed camera that is like 20MP so that it takes such detail pics that they can see that a)WOF expired, b) REG expired and c) the rock or paintball comming towards it.
Citroenjunkie
23rd February 2007, 12:34
I'm sure the topic of how deadly disease-holes are has been flogged to death but I want to know why the ACC levy component of my registration is so bloody high when I most probably will be the only injured party if I bin it, but if some Remuera Bovine sneezes in her Grunge Rover she most likely kills three or four pedestrians and a threatened species of slugs and her ACC levy is pitifully small.
Why?
Anyone interested in starting a petition to get 4X4's banned from sealed roads??? Go on you know you want to do it!! :ride:
James Deuce
23rd February 2007, 12:39
As Ixion has pointed out before, if we paid the correct share of the ACC levy in regard to costs attributable to motorcycle accidents, we would be paying in the $400-$500 range for the levy alone.
James Deuce
23rd February 2007, 12:40
roads??? Go on you know you want to do it!! :ride:
Subaru WRXs. STi Foresters and Mitsubishi Legnum's are too much fun. Not interested in that idea much.
MWVT
27th February 2007, 14:49
As Ixion has pointed out before, if we paid the correct share of the ACC levy in regard to costs attributable to motorcycle accidents, we would be paying in the $400-$500 range for the levy alone.
I don't feel too bad, i tend to cover the 500 a year in other forms of 'tax', just doing my bit.
slopster
3rd March 2007, 20:57
OK, so you go and buy two welding helmets, the type with the LCD glass that turns black instantly you strike the arc.
Remove the glass, and put one sheet over the left hand side of your number plate, and one sheet over the right hand side.
At (say) 25 hz you switch first the left hand side to black, then alternate to the right hand side.
ie one side of your number plate is always covered.
The police wont notice - persistance of vision will show the entire number plate to a human observer.
But a camera with a flash has only a 1/10,000 sec of flash. So it will only ever record one side of the plate.
So bring on the speed cameras - its the last ticket I'll ever get !
The shutter will be open for at least a relatively long 1/500th of a second which is probably long enough to catch both sides
Ixion
3rd March 2007, 21:10
No, becasue each side is covered for 1/25th of a second. So to get both sides it would have to be open for 2/25th of a secnd.
shafty
3rd March 2007, 21:51
I still smile when I think of the Pole Mounted Speed Cam which was STOLEN from Pyes Pa Rd a few years ago. Haven't seen it pop up on Tard Me yet......lol
Any of you guys get given an extra large digital camera for Xmas a while ago?
Wenier
4th March 2007, 10:33
Its funny how they still reckon that their speed campaign is what made the statistics drop. I reckon we could put it down to the advances in newer cars and so on that make them safer and handle better. Its the shitty old speeding cars that crash and i bet alot of it has to do with the driver.
I remember in wellington a pole camera also got cut down and taken, classic!
terbang
4th March 2007, 10:52
Hah I've seen a few cheap and effective antispeedcamera devices on motorbikes. The Rego holder..!
The Kiwi equivalent of Captain Gatso would certainly burn up the revenue gathered by such devices.
As time has gone by I have become more accepting and do agree with a lot of the police strategies with regard to speeding. If you speed and a cop gets ya then fair enough and its still cheaper than getting killed or maimed for life. Thats policing. However speed cameras don't wash too well with me, not because I get stung by them, but because I see them as 'Cop out' (excuse the pun) policing. A driver could drive past a speed camera with bald tyres, no licence, no brain because they are pissed to the eyeballs and if doing a couple of kays over the limit they will only get caught for speeding and recieve no demerit..! A real copper, doing real road policing, would make the difference.
Skyryder
14th March 2007, 20:39
Speed doesn't kill. The sudden stop does. Silly Police. They need Stop cameras.
Yep. Should be 'unlawfull' to stop.:dodge:
Skyryder
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