Any learner been busted for over 70kmh???

[Boob Johnson]

Im just about to get my learners license and I reckon the current law of max open road speed of 70Km/h is bloody ridiculous. It just seems so un safe to hold traffic up by such a huge speed or sit so close to the shoulder to let cars pass (if the roads are even wide enough!!). Also trucks will have to go around you & get close, on smaller roads that doesn't sound like fun at all. Which lets face it the majority aren't that wide in NZ. Even on a motorway that sounds dangerous to me :weird:


My question is, has anyone been pulled up doing 80+ with learners plates on?


It really does sound crazy to me. On one hand (a good hand I might add) you can't own a bike bigger than 250cc but then they slow you down to a snails pace, why??? If you weren't on to it enough to stop quickly at 100 then you shouldn't be on the bloody road in the first place :angry:


I hope im not alone on this :innocent:

[Chisanga]

I have passed Highway Patrol Cars on the Auckland motorways going 100km/h with L-Plates on with no ill effect.

As long as you are not riding like a complete moron, the cops will let it slide as most of them (so i've heard) think it is a stupid and dangerous law as well.

[Donor]

Agree with Chisanga.

Ride safely, they'll leave you alone.

[skidMark]

put simply do not put an l plate on

i have been pulled over over 30 times in the last 2 years....

not once have i been givin a ticket for no l plate or for exceeding 70 kph limit

just do 100-110 on main highways etc...with the flow of traffic

and if you do get pulled up and they try and ticket you for it explain to them how dangerous it is to do 70kph in a 100 kph zone

[Deano]

I agree that 70km/h is dangerous on a motorway, but perhaps the idea is that learners gain some experience off the big bad motorway for a little while ? Maybe 'they' should explain/reinforce this a bit more ?

I spent a couple of years off road learning how a bike handles before even getting on the road.

[Chisanga]

Just to answer skidMark's comment - I have had no issues at all displaying an L-Plate in my almost 3 months of riding almost everyday around Auckland.

[Drum]

Just ignore the speed restriction mate. Same speed as those around you is safer.

[Donor]

No L plate + speeding ticket (cos who actually KEEPS to 100??) = $400 fine for no L plate.

L plate + speeding ticket (usually) = just speeding ticket.

Of course, if you've captured a leprechaun, then the little bugger has no doubt given you his pot of gold, and you can bloody well do what you like.

(Someone check the above equations, I'm too tired to care...)

[Chisanga]

No L plate + speeding ticket (cos who actually KEEPS to 100??) = $400 fine for no L plate.

L plate + speeding ticket (usually) = just speeding ticket.

Of course, if you've captured a leprechaun, then the little bugger has no doubt given you his pot of gold, and you can bloody well do what you like.

(Someone check the above equations, I'm too tired to care...)

I was gonna say this too but couldn't be bothered typing it out :)

I'm sure Mr. Donor exceeded 70km/h on his first ride on Rosey today :p

[skidMark]

Just to answer skidMark's comment - I have had no issues at all displaying an L-Plate in my almost 3 months of riding almost everyday around Auckland.


mm i just never bothered i did at one point when i was good enough so that when people picked on me (car drivers seem to like to sit up learner riders asses cus they think they r funny)

at which point i would slow down let them go past going up to 140 or so ...now by this point ive been winding my bike up behind them....then usually split inbetween them and the car next to them at 185, making some sort of gesture

usually a wanker symbol

hmmm maybe i just wanted an excuse to go fast haha

where in east aucks are ya mate we should cruise sometime , i'm in st johns

[Lissa]

I have a broken L plate on my bike. And I always go the speed limit of 100. Havent been pulled over yet *knock on wood*.

I think its plain silly that you have to go 70K. People on car learners dont have to.

I started out riding at 70K, but after a week of riding around country roads, and gaining a little bit of experience I thought stuff it.

[skidMark]

No L plate + speeding ticket (cos who actually KEEPS to 100??) = $400 fine for no L plate.

L plate + speeding ticket (usually) = just speeding ticket.

Of course, if you've captured a leprechaun, then the little bugger has no doubt given you his pot of gold, and you can bloody well do what you like.

(Someone check the above equations, I'm too tired to care...)

i know one person who got done actually for like 74 in a 50

no l plate ...breach of license condition(exceeding 70 kph) ....the ticket for his speed....

and i think something else...

cost him $1400

n4cr on the forum

lets just say he wasnt a happy boy after that

[Chisanga]

mm i just never bothered i did at one point when i was good enough so that when people picked on me (car drivers seem to like to sit up learner riders asses cus they think they r funny)

at which point i would slow down let them go past going up to 140 or so ...now by this point ive been winding my bike up behind them....then usually split inbetween them and the car next to them at 185, making some sort of gesture

usually a wanker symbol

hmmm maybe i just wanted an excuse to go fast haha

where in east aucks are ya mate we should cruise sometime , i'm in st johns

I agree in a fashion with your sentiments and I believe that it is more about rider 'attitude' and confidence than whether or not you have an L-Plate on.

I would like to think I ride confidently and assert my lane position etc. whilst sharing the road ... that is why I believe I haven't had a problem.

If I wobbled everywhere and always rode on the left side of roads i'm sure I would have more issues.

I'm out in Bucklands Beach skidMark, after watching your Utube vids today i'm not entirely sure that we have complimentary riding styles :)

[BUNGY]

I went with the L plate because if I did get caught doing over 70 thenb it was only one fine, never got pulled up although I tried to avoid 100k zones just incase

[skidMark]

I agree in a fashion with your sentiments and I believe that it is more about rider 'attitude' and confidence than whether or not you have an L-Plate on.

I would like to think I ride confidently and assert my lane position etc. whilst sharing the road ... that is why I believe I haven't had a problem.

If I wobbled everywhere and always rode on the left side of roads i'm sure I would have more issues.

I'm out in Bucklands Beach skidMark, after watching your Utube vids today i'm not entirely sure that we have complimentary riding styles :)

you honda riders are all the same LOL:innocent:

[Chisanga]

you honda riders are all the same LOL:innocent:


Yeah, we have good taste in bikes :lol:

[skidMark]

i used to hate hondas then i worked at botany honda for 2 months, and now i reallllyyyy hate hondas ps.those vids were done on a borrowed honda LOL bloodey awful thing to ride

[Chisanga]

Fair enough then... you hate Hondas. I don't hate any make of motorbike, they all seem to have some good features, but I do hate liver :)

[Steam]

I never got stopped doing 100 on the learners.
So it looks like nobody here has ever been done for doing 70 on a learners, except the dude who was in a 50 zone at the time!

[N4CR]

no l plate + speeding ticket (cos who actually keeps to 100??) = $400 fine for no l plate.

try $400 per l offence and 25 demerits in total. it's the demerits which worry me cus they in turn affect insurance when you clock up 100+, hence why i have a different disco light policy to back when i got **** raped 1.3k in one sitting. :innocent:

[skidMark]

try $400 per l offence and 25 demerits in total. it's the demerits which worry me cus they in turn affect insurance when you clock up 100+, hence why i have a different disco light policy to back when i got **** raped 1.3k in one sitting. :innocent:


yer it's called a custom wave in which you wind your wrist and the bike dissapears at 300 kph or so:P

[N4CR]

yer it's called a custom wave in which you wind your wrist and the bike dissapears at 300 kph or so:p

nah mate, the new bike has a magic mirror too, it's even better than the old one! they block out the far ends of the visible light spectrum - red and blue, you just gotta twist the wrist and ride vigorously or the alternator isn't strong enough to power it up though...

[skidMark]

nah mate, the new bike has a magic mirror too, it's even better than the old one! they block out the far ends of the visible light spectrum - red and blue, you just gotta twist the wrist and ride vigorously or the alternator isn't strong enough to power it up though...


high speed wind automatically foldng in mirrors?

ROFFLECOPTER

AND LIKE LOLASKYSCRAPER

[Dodger]

My 2c

I ignored the whole 70kph limit when on my Learners, There is no way I'm going to do 70kph in a 80-100kph zone with cars trying to kill me.

I had a cop follow me over the Haywards hill for a bit with me doing 110kph. He just passed me after a while with light flashing and was on his way. (taking into account that the Hyosung's speedo is out, I was prob doing 100kph)

One thing to keep in mind is that no L Plate may also mean no insurance. :angry:

[Guitana]

I got snapped doing over 200kmh on a GSXR1100 while still on my learners but that was a few years ago I could'nt be bothered doing the full!!!
But as I grew older and wiser I caved in and went legal!!!!
Got the book thrown at me! but had been riding since the age of fifteen on big bikes and could'nt see what the drama was!!
70 k's sounds dangerous especially commuting in traffic!!
I saw some nut sack on a scooter going down the gorge the other day doing 60k and holding up the traffic cars were cutting in and out dangerous shit plus he was'nt very visable so I came up beside him and told him to speed up or fuck off or else some ones gonna run him off the road!!
Did the trick and I followed him down the gorge till he was out of the shit!
Fuck I'm a nice C**t

[Chisanga]

One thing to keep in mind is that no L Plate may also mean no insurance. :angry:

My understanding of that is that the lack of an L-Plate has to be an important factor in why the incident occurs... which seems impossible to me.

However, as usual, I could be wrong :)

[HDTboy]

I got a ticket for riding outside my licence conditions when stopped for 125 on my learners licence on my 250.

[j_redley]

I actually took my L plate off when I went out for a ride yesterday, and if Im in 100k zone, there was no way Im going to sit at 70... its bloody stupid and dangerous.

Iv been on the road for over 5 years in cages, I know the law, where Im supposed to sit and wheres dangerous for a bike to sit. Its all about your own confidence.

[davereid]

The L plate has to be at Front and Back on a car. It just has to be "clearly visible" on a bike.

If you put your L plate on the Left-Hand-side swing arm, it meets the requirements of the law. But a traffic car behind you would not see it, so unless you were pulled over for some other offence, you are unlikely to get pinged.

Plus, the cars around you can't see it, so will not think they can intimidate you as a newbie.

[Theatre]

you honda riders are all the same LOL:innocent:
Says Mr I-Ride-A-Honda!

The moment I got confident enough with my riding I took off my L plate, the way I saw it is that all you need is 1 wanker cop to ping you for the $400 fine and 25 demerits and that zipping along normally below the radar would be safer. I got pulled over doing 112 on the way to RRRS, the cop was obviously in a good mood as he just gave me the ticket for 12kph over rather than raping me with the no L plate, over 70kph, 42kph over what im supposed to be doing tickets. The advice he gave me was to wear the L plate and just go 'at a speed I deem safe'.

[Dodger]

The L plate has to be at Front and Back on a car. It just has to be "clearly visible" on a bike.

If you put your L plate on the Left-Hand-side swing arm, it meets the requirements of the law. But a traffic car behind you would not see it, so unless you were pulled over for some other offence, you are unlikely to get pinged.

Plus, the cars around you can't see it, so will not think they can intimidate you as a newbie.

Um, according to this: http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/factsheets/28.html it needs to be attached to the rear number plate.


5. When you're riding, you must always have a learner ('L') plate attached to your motorcycle's rear number plate.

I guess it doesn't say which side :p

[Boob Johnson]

WOOOOOT!!! Did the practical part of my 6L tonight, theory tomorrow arvo and im set to go pick up my new toy....WOOT!!! :rockon:

I asked the "tester" dude tonight about doing 70Km\h on the open road and he agreed with everyone here. Ignore that BS rule and travel at the same speed as the traffic.

Thank God for that :yes:

Don't think I could bare 360Km/h ride from Auckland to New Plymouth at that speed lol.

[Chisanga]

Don't think I could bare 360Km/h ride from Auckland to New Plymouth

Do you have a Veyron? :lol:

[Boob Johnson]

Do you have a Veyron? :lol:lol whats a Veyron?

Im still a biker "noob" so you might have to spell it out for me :innocent:

[sil3nt]

lol whats a Veyron?

Im still a biker "noob" so you might have to spell it out for me :innocent:haha seriously had to lol at this one.

You said 360km/h instead of 360km. The veyron is one of only a few road legal cars that could do 360km/h. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron_16.4

[ravenfeeder]

Hey Boob did you do the lesson before hand or just the BH Certificate part. I am booked in for one of those 3 hours Basic Handling classes which does 3 hour revision then test and have now also had one of the guys at the bike shop offer me the test only. What did you do?

[Drum]

If you havn't ridden before do the lesson before hand.

[Boob Johnson]

haha seriously had to lol at this one.

You said 360km/h instead of 360km. The veyron is one of only a few road legal cars that could do 360km/h. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron_16.4*bangs head on ground repeatedly* :shutup: lol


Raven Feeder: na mate I just booked in the test, jumped on their crappy lil bike and did what he told me to do. Aced it no drama :Punk:


Poor bastard before me got failed. He was about 15 & hadn't quite got to grips with the clutch, over revving without engaging etc. So it was good to go straight after such a terrible rider, made me look better he he.


In saying that its not hard, only 6 things you need to do. And the max speed I got to during the entire thing was 30Km/h lol. Hardly pushing it.


1) dodge the cones

2) ride slowly between two narrow white lines

3) stop in a small square (but only doing 20Km/h at the time lol so not hard)

4) stop at random (he raises his hand) and you have to brake quickly and safely

5) corning/indicating (make sure you start to indicate 3 seconds before the turn)

6) then corning and brake in the middle of said corner


Bloody easy, just take your time, don't rush it and concentrate. Remember they don't expect you to be Mick Doohan (nor wish you to be :yes: )


Good luck mate

[ravenfeeder]

Cool Boob, still tossing whether to do referesher course or not - am kind of feeling is safest option given has been a number of years since i rode bike and at least have someone go over it all. WIll be really pissed if get there and is a waste of money though :) Oh well better to be safe eh hehehe i think. Given i havent ridden a bike for years thought woudl be an idea to practice before i do test too ;) Congrats mate and safe riding

[Roj]

you honda riders are all the same LOL:innocent:


Yeah, we have good taste in bikes :lol:

I will second that, Hondas last longer:scooter:

[Boob Johnson]

Cool Boob, still tossing whether to do referesher course or not - am kind of feeling is safest option given has been a number of years since i rode bike and at least have someone go over it all. WIll be really pissed if get there and is a waste of money though :) Oh well better to be safe eh hehehe i think. Given i havent ridden a bike for years thought woudl be an idea to practice before i do test too ;) Congrats mate and safe ridingYeah good idea, although its only $40 to do the test so keep that in mind.

Just got back from the AA 5 mins ago, passed my theory so im now offically allowed to ride....WOOT!!! :Punk:

Got one question wrong and it was a bloody stupidly easy one (I was rushing a bit towards the end).

Two cars at at an intersection, one is at a stop sign, the other driving straight through and I said the car driving straight through should give way lol.

Can't believe I did that :innocent:

NM, all good now :scooter:

[Delphinus]

Congratulations Boob! :rockon:

[more_fasterer]

When I was on my learners I was stopped by a nice policeman and given a ticket for doing 63 in a 50. I asked him about the 70 km/h rule at the time and he just said that I should ignore the rule and travel at the speed of the traffic flow. He didn't say anything about the fact my L plate was about the size of a credit card either :D

[Sidewinder]

yea dude dnt use L plates i neva have! i went to wellys from hams afta hours on cavers gs500 with out my learners going 150km with some1 on the back and then came back when we got cavers nu bike and if you dont ride like a cock u will b sweet!:whocares:

[Lucy]

put simply do not put an l plate on

i have been pulled over over 30 times in the last 2 years....

not once have i been givin a ticket for no l plate or for exceeding 70 kph limit




So what were the tickets for then? 30 times in 2 years pulled over by the cops? Should we really take advice from you?:yes:

[Lucy]

I have a broken L plate on my bike. And I always go the speed limit of 100. Havent been pulled over yet *knock on wood*.

I think its plain silly that you have to go 70K. People on car learners dont have to.

I started out riding at 70K, but after a week of riding around country roads, and gaining a little bit of experience I thought stuff it.


I think we got our GNs about the same time. I stuck to 70 for the first 800 k whilst running it in (so as not to go over 4500 revs). Didn't find it a hassle really, but as soon as I got to the point where the manual said I could go up to 6500 revs, I found myself going 90 - 100. The 800ks experience was useful I think, at first going 70 was PLENTY fast enough - like someone said earlier - maybe the point is to keep learners OFF the motorway?

[Lucy]

you honda riders are all the same LOL:innocent:


I concur - Chisanga, McJim, GIJoe....gentlemen all.

[Lucy]

Says Mr I-Ride-A-Honda!

The moment I got confident enough with my riding I took off my L plate, the way I saw it is that all you need is 1 wanker cop to ping you for the $400 fine and 25 demerits and that zipping along normally below the radar would be safer. I got pulled over doing 112 on the way to RRRS, the cop was obviously in a good mood as he just gave me the ticket for 12kph over rather than raping me with the no L plate, over 70kph, 42kph over what im supposed to be doing tickets. The advice he gave me was to wear the L plate and just go 'at a speed I deem safe'.


Do you actually know what 'rape' is?

[Boob Johnson]

Congratulations Boob! :rockon:Cheers mate, can't wait to get to Auckland tomorrow :Punk:





yea dude dnt use L plates i neva have! i went to wellys from hams afta hours on cavers gs500 with out my learners going 150km with some1 on the back and then came back when we got cavers nu bike and if you dont ride like a cock u will b sweet!:whocares:*throws away L Plates* :done:


:spanking:

[irishlad]

Lost my L-plate doing 130 on motorway during Westpac run. Cops made me go faster. Will put one on for my restricted test in May.

[mazz1972]

I had a 125 when I first started learning and I had my L plate on all the time. But once I got my 250 Sherpa I never had the L plate on except for when I did the restricted test. I don't speed other than going max 110kmph (occasionally) on the highway, so I figured the likelihood of being pulled up for speeding was miniscule compared with being pulled over for doing over 70kmph with an L plate on.

Perhaps most cops would ignore the L plate if they saw you speeding - but there are also some nazi cops out there who will ping you for everything.

A few people have suggested that perhaps the 70kmph rule is really to deter learner riders from being on the motorway/highway. That's fine if you live in a big city where you can go travel far without needing to going on a motorway/highway, but no good for the likes of where I live - I have to go on the highway to get anywhere.

Bear in mind that not displaying an L plate is a breach of licence conditions, therefore would void any insurance claim.

[nadroj]

'On a ride last night & one of the girls got a little behind (nice one too).
Got pinged @ 116kph ($120) + $400 for on Learners & theatened with $400 for no L plate. She arrived at the pub with a $520 ticket & lo & behold the cop pulls up a couple of minutes later, calls her over & takes off the $400 for Learners. He had a conscience ,especially as he also rides a road bike & recently bought a tyre off the victim at the bike shop she works at.
He must have been woried how much the next tyre was going to cost him!

[Boob Johnson]

Bear in mind that not displaying an L plate is a breach of licence conditions, therefore would void any insurance claim.Thats a very good point :yes:



'On a ride last night & one of the girls got a little behind (nice one too).
Got pinged @ 116kph ($120) + $400 for on Learners & theatened with $400 for no L plate. She arrived at the pub with a $520 ticket & lo & behold the cop pulls up a couple of minutes later, calls her over & takes off the $400 for Learners. He had a conscience ,especially as he also rides a road bike & recently bought a tyre off the victim at the bike shop she works at.
He must have been woried how much the next tyre was going to cost him!Baa ha ha ha nice one.

[Boob Johnson]

Bear in mind that not displaying an L plate is a breach of licence conditions, therefore would void any insurance claim.Thats a very good point :yes:



'On a ride last night & one of the girls got a little behind (nice one too).
Got pinged @ 116kph ($120) + $400 for on Learners & theatened with $400 for no L plate. She arrived at the pub with a $520 ticket & lo & behold the cop pulls up a couple of minutes later, calls her over & takes off the $400 for Learners. He had a conscience ,especially as he also rides a road bike & recently bought a tyre off the victim at the bike shop she works at.
He must have been woried how much the next tyre was going to cost him!Baa ha ha ha nice one. Glad to hear the cop came to his senses.

[McJim]

If I wobbled everywhere and always rode on the left side of roads i'm sure I would have more issues.


I thought you always slid everywhere on your footpegs, exhaust, headlight and fuel tank. But you do it all with such aplomb! :rofl:

[Chisanga]

I thought you always slid everywhere on your footpegs, exhaust, headlight and fuel tank. But you do it all with such aplomb! :rofl:

I think I need some training wheels :)

[gijoe1313]

I thought you always slid everywhere on your footpegs, exhaust, headlight and fuel tank. But you do it all with such aplomb! :rofl:

At least he doesn't try out for Crusty Demons on a spur of the moment thang! :innocent: Nor is he an avid gardener and avoids looking at fauna close up! :innocent: And at least he doesn't let his inner ricer bling come out either! :innocent:

Guilty m'lud, I'm jest a poor orphan waif trying to make my way in this world of cold, callous bikers! Spare a pity for those condemned to ride twofiddys and are advanced in years! Allow us this moment of grace where we can pootle to our hearts content y'honour!

G'wan, you know you want to! :yes:

[r00kie]

my friend was fined $900 for doing 90k on a 50zone without motobike licence without L plate and with a pillow on the back...

[ynot slow]

expensive pillow lol,pillion?

[hospitalfood]

got done speeding on my learners a few times, cost money but dont remember how much, dont remember much........I'm sure it was fun at the time !

[breakaway]

Quit digging up old threads thox

[bikerboy011]

i used to hate hondas then i worked at botany honda for 2 months, and now i reallllyyyy hate hondas ps.those vids were done on a borrowed honda LOL bloodey awful thing to ride

HONDA's :first: thats why they are winning the motogp

[2fst4u]

i know this thread is old, but i just wanted to point out another reason why the speed limit is stupid. in places like wellington, your'e locked into the city. if you stick to 70km/h maximum and avoid mototrways in doing so then there are only two ways to johnsonville- around makara. a pretty trecherous road, escpecially with sheep trucks wizzing round corners. the other being through wilton. once you get to johnsonville, then you're stuck and the only thing to do is come back. when i get my learners i'm definatly going to ignore the rule

[Lteejay]

put simply do not put an l plate on

+ crash = no insurance as you are riding outside your license conditions (either for your bike or who-ever you hit). If anyone hit my bike or car with no insurance I'd be having very strong words.

[Tank]

Have a look at my threads about dispensation - LTNZ actually dont want learners riding on motorways at 70 and are open to give dispensation from this as they know that it is not safe.

I got mine a few weeks ago no issues at all.

[sprag]

never did the 70 thing on my learners however I did have the L plate, had a few cops follow me on the motorway doing 100 and never pulled me over.

[McDuck]

Once i did 120 past a cop (goign tho other way) man was i crapping myself.

[sunhuntin]

down south last year... one hell of a side wind that would put a slow moving vehicle into the ditch. kicking along at about 110k... heard sirens in my head [happens sometimes] and looked in my mirror. couple of cars. kept on going, and checked again. one car a bit closer... hmmm... funny looking paint. check again... hmmm... i see lights on top. keep going at same speed. cop catches up, overtakes, looks at me while overtaking and just keeps on going. LOL. could have easily been busted there, but the wind was that strong... i very nearly gave up trying to go anywhere.

[rustycharm]

I always thought the rule was in mph as it was made so long ago lol