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James Deuce
26th February 2007, 21:19
This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is an example of a Real Man's bike (sorry Flame - no offence, and please don't hit me anymore OK? The bruises aren't going away).

You can't get on this bike and expect go for a quiet bimble. You have to climb on, climb off, kick it in the 'nads, get back on, smack it in the back of the head a couple of times, and nail it everywhere, even when you're tooting the feeble (and most non-Italian) horn instead of indicating.

Why?

Why would you swap the horn and indicator position? Is that some kind of obscure Italian joke?

Good thing there's nothing else wrong with this bike.

Nothing.

I've gone off sprotsbikes. It's not their fault though. My battered, bloated zeppelin of a "body", is just not capable of getting comfortable in the 96th Karma Sutra position, affectionately referred to by worshipers of Kali as the "Pretzel". Having said that the seat/peg relationship on the RSV-R is actually perfectly comfortable, except when the heat rising up of those fantastically melodious Akrapovic (pronounced A-Krap-O-Vich) pipes tries to slow roast your calves and the backs of your thighs in heavy traffic.

The engine is fantastic, though I would prefer a tacho with an actual red line to a barely visible shift light and presumably a rev-limiter :innocent:. It is incredibly flexible, with little of that other Italian marque's typical banging, stuttering, and sheer bloody-minded recalcitrance under 4000rpm.

The chassis is just dreamy, if I may summon up a slightly wet blanket aphorism from the '60s. What I mean is that it works in a way you can only really dream about until you experience it for yourself. And this is where the "real man" bit kicks in.

You don't gently nudge the bars to change direction. You release the inside bar, extend your arm all the way back and whack it with all your might while pulling on the opposite bar. At least this is what I started off doing while trying to ride someone else's mega-expensive toy. Just a gentle ride to work and I was struggling to get it to turn.

Shifting your arse in the seat a mere inch made all the difference.

I deliberately left work as late enough to avoid the commuter traffic while still having enough time to ride the Wainuiomata coast road and get home before dark. Going up the Wainuiomata Hill road was really the first time I'd needed to think about a constant series of rapid direction changes. Sitting dead centre in the seat like Mike Hailwood (yeah right, like I have the right to consider calling my self a motorcyclist in even his written and posthumous presence) made this pretty darn tough - Big heave - turn, big heave - uuuuUPppright and over - big heave - turn the other way. I'm just not getting on with this bike.

Hmmm

Italian Automotive manufacturers like to use animals to engender a sense of free-spirited and quite dangerous power in their products. Ferrari uses the image of a prancing horse, I like to think it was one of the special equines used by The Spanish Riding School, all delicate and precise movements, backed by skull crushing power. Lamborghini use a Bull, not renowned for being either delicate or precise, but another magnitude of power up the scale compared to Ferrari.

Aprilia's Lion is all swaggering, lazy, sinuous movement. Riding this bike at 50km/hr is torture and both rider and bike want release. The RSV-R prowls with that slightly nervous energy of a Lion about to pounce for no other reason than because it can, weaving an almost drunken course toward doomed prey. In the case of either Ferrari or Lamborghini, I can see Aprilia's Lion castrating Ferrari and Lamborghini's Stallion and Bull respectively, sitting back on its haunches, casually picking stringy vas deferens from its teeth with one shiny metallic magnesium alloy claw, while both animals struggle to figure out just what bits are missing.

F**k my back hurts.

The first couple of decent corners on the Wainuiomata Coast Rd and I dip out of the saddle to be rewarded by a bike suddenly pouncing on the apex, and a couple of pops in my back releasing all that pent up lactic acid being stored in over stretched muscles. Aha! I gets it, I does!

I'm feeble. I haven't ridden a sprotsbike for so long that I'm on and off the throttle, having to change down to get back on the power after the merest stroke of those monobloc Brembo radial brakes, and fundamentally riding around corners with the bike upright. I open the taps a couple of times and road flows like liquid obsidian toward me, Ohlins suspension finally allowed to do its job.

I get to the end of the road a bit daunted, confused by just how far up the performance spectrum you have to go to get this bike to work and just how far behind my brain is lagging. Fortunately Wellington's rugged South Coast delivers a swift kick to my hind-brain, rugged terrain and windswept beaches bringing out the Lion tamer within.

I lied earlier. There's one other thing wrong with this bike. Italians seem to blend engineering and art effortlessly, making straight lines curves, and curves a thing of sensual beauty.

So why the f**k can't they make a side stand that works? Ducati have their "suicide" stand and Aprilia have a straight bit of angle iron about three inches long. I had the bike parked on the side of the road, road sloping away to the left. As soon as I put any weight at all on the bike the stand started skating down the slope, bike toppling over with it. Please see the second paragraph.

Just who was boss in this relationship re-established, I grasped the scruff of Leo the RSV-R's neck and proceeded back toward Wainuiomata. I could spend all day on a racetrack with this thing and never learn its limits. I ain't Haga or Corser.

I'm also a bit dumb. While showing the multi-function dash off to her indoors I stumbled across the vMax and average speed functions.

Crikey.

Err, no, that wasn't me. Ummm someone else.

Sensei, you're a better man than me mate. Actually Flame is a better man than me. What a stunning, stunning bike. Not precisely engineered, pinpoint sharp racer's tool, more a blunt axe designed to bludgeon both riders into shape, and competitors into losers.

I'm getting up early tomorrow so I can jump on the RSV-R and ride it to work, hopefully before the damn thing wakes up and eviscerates me!

boomer
26th February 2007, 21:28
What an awesome write up !!!

bling

Hitcher
27th February 2007, 09:39
So you liked it then?

And how's the back?

bistard
27th February 2007, 09:45
Hey Jim,are you getting old mate!
It wasnt that long ago you owned an R6

James Deuce
27th February 2007, 09:47
Hey Jim,are you getting old mate!
It wasnt that long ago you owned an R6

Yeah and I didn't ride it anywhere because my neck hurt.

vifferman
27th February 2007, 09:51
Great write-up, Dude! :niceone:

Finn
27th February 2007, 09:58
[LEFT]Why would you swap the horn and indicator position? Is that some kind of obscure Italian joke?

Standard Italian feature designed for the Italian market where you use the horn more than the indicator.

MrMelon
27th February 2007, 10:03
Nice write up. I want one! Even an older one would probably keep me happy..

Cajun
27th February 2007, 10:05
not that i have riden wifes one yet, i am not much of a vtwin man myself, but for the 50km or so i put on it, it felt nice, planted, and just soaked up the bumps in the road, like i have never felt before

RantyDave
27th February 2007, 10:08
You don't gently nudge the bars to change direction. You release the inside bar, extend your arm all the way back and whack it with all your might while pulling on the opposite bar.
....
Shifting your arse in the seat a mere inch made all the difference.
The trumpet is/was a bit like this - the steering can take some encouragement but if you so much as vaguely move your weight on your arse cheeks the bike appears to wake up to the idea that perhaps you'd like it to corner quickly now. Never do this below about 70k.

I had been wondering if it was more to do with psychology than the design of the tyres/suspension/frame and on reflection think it's about half and half: The moving to one side and using my outside leg for a little more support causes my arms and body to relax, soak down into the corner, move the weight a little further forward and generally speaking get into it. On the other hand taking a shitload of preload off helped cornering enormously.

But I could quite get into an Aprilia. Unfortunately the "north of twenty grand" aspect of it doesn't really appeal, as doesn't the resulting insurance costs. And commuting on a bike like that would be against the law.

Oh, yes, I think I'd probably get into the habit of carrying a little speed too - speaking of being against the law.

If you're going to be in the company of said piece of Italian engineering for a while though I can thoroughly recommend taking really quite a lot of preload off and trying again.

Dave

James Deuce
27th February 2007, 10:17
And commuting on a bike like that would be against the law.

Oh, yes, I think I'd probably get into the habit of carrying a little speed too - speaking of being against the law.


If this morning's vMax is anything to go by I'd be without license in about 2 weeks - if they catch me. Problem is, you just don't know you're doing those speeds!

James Deuce
27th February 2007, 11:02
Standard Italian feature designed for the Italian market where you use the horn more than the indicator.

Aha! They should probably install a horn then instead of an asthmatic cockroach with a plastic trumpet.

The horns on that Breva 750 were proper Italian, "No, YOU go fu**k yourself" horns.

RSVR's horn is weaker than a Suzuki horn.

Deano
27th February 2007, 11:03
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I'm also a bit dumb. While showing the multi-function dash off to her indoors I stumbled across the vMax and average speed functions.

Crikey.

Err, no, that wasn't me. Ummm someone else.

Actually Flame is a better man than me.

:rofl:

Informative, emotive and comical all in one - nice report Jim.

Kendog
27th February 2007, 17:03
That was an excellent read.

I am waiting for the new Tuono to arrive. Basically the same bike just naked.

riffer
27th February 2007, 20:52
Yup. Those RSV's are something else.

You didn't mention how easily and quickly the front comes up though.

flame
6th March 2007, 21:10
da'am awesome write up Jim2, couldn't help but to giggle my way through it. I promise I wont give you bruises........as long as you buy one :yes:

Then you'll be just like me....i get bruises in funny places everytime I push that Italian spag bike a bit hard! He loves it though.....infact I think he finds it quite histerical, im sure I hear him laughing at me everytime he shakes his head mid corner and bashes me into the tank!!

who ever wanted SMOOTH anyways lol.

skelstar
6th March 2007, 21:29
I am waiting for the new Tuono to arrive.
Something you want to tell us Nigel? :whistle:

Kendog
6th March 2007, 21:32
Something you want to tell us Nigel? :whistle:

I love Aprilia's :yes:

skelstar
6th March 2007, 21:33
I love Aprilia's :yes:
Ok, I'll notify my Aprillia representative to give you a call ;)

flame
6th March 2007, 21:35
Ok, I'll notify my Aprillia representative to give you a call ;)

I think they're already onto it.....lol

RantyDave
6th March 2007, 21:44
I think they're already onto it.....lol
Hang on, does that say "Aprilia RSV1000 x2"? Like, you have two of them?

Isn't that, just, greedy? :)

Dave

flame
7th March 2007, 17:10
Hang on, does that say "Aprilia RSV1000 x2"? Like, you have two of them?

Isn't that, just, greedy? :)

Dave

lol....yer one is for the track. dont want to ruin the 'pretty one', must be a girl thing.

Hitcher
18th March 2007, 20:55
I love Aprilia's

You love Aprilia's what?

Kendog
19th March 2007, 06:23
You love Aprilia's what?

I love Aprilia's sir!

limbimtimwim
19th March 2007, 07:37
I love Aprilia's sir!He's (As in "he is") complaining about your use of -> ' .

We love Hitcher's (Possessive) grammatical perseverance.

James Deuce
19th March 2007, 07:50
Which begs the next question: Who IS Aprilia's sir?

sidecar bob
19th March 2007, 08:01
Which begs the next question: Who IS Aprilia's sir?

A true & accurate story, Aint it Goblin?

Goblin
19th March 2007, 08:03
You love Aprilia's what?Aprilia's labia??


A true & accurate story, Aint it Goblin?
Yeah baby!!

sidecar bob
19th March 2007, 08:15
Aprilia's labia??


Yeah baby!!
Just to clarify,
A reliable & honest K.B member informed me that the small plastic, (or in ther case of some lucky bastards, carbon) frame inside the air intake between the headlamps, is called a labia in the parts catalogue.

In case youre wondering, my signature line refers to my RSV R.

DMNTD
19th March 2007, 08:37
Mmmmmmmm.....bling labia!

Goblin
19th March 2007, 08:42
. On the other hand taking a shitload of preload off helped cornering enormously.

If you're going to be in the company of said piece of Italian engineering for a while though I can thoroughly recommend taking really quite a lot of preload off and trying again.

DaveYesterday I was privileged enough to do a few kays on one of these fine peices of Italian engineering and I couldnt agree more!


Just to clarify,
A reliable & honest K.B member...:laugh: :killingme I'd be interested to lay eyes on this parts catalogue.

Wicked write up Jim2! I can now totally relate to your experience.:yes:

DMNTD
19th March 2007, 08:46
:laugh: :killingme I'd be interested to lay eyes on this parts catalogue.

What you laughing at woman?! The bloke he refers to is an Innocent :dodge:

CLICKY THING (http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=28)

desmo dave
19th March 2007, 08:52
Aprilia rsv's have been around along time now . whats taken so long for people to catch on and show an interest in them.Is it just that the earlyer modles have become affordable through 2nd hand Jap imports or what.Bloody good write up Jim. On ya

Goblin
19th March 2007, 09:05
[B]What you laughing at woman?! The bloke he refers to is an Innocent :dodge:
:laugh: And I'm a virgin....

The Aprilias really are sex on wheels....looking through your clicky thingy I see things like "saddle rubber, Screw w/ flange, self tapping screw, Clip-Nut Set" and the mind boggles.:gob: I still havn't found the labia though.:innocent:

DMNTD
19th March 2007, 09:09
I still havn't found the labia though.:innocent:
...and that would be cause you're a virgin right? :nono:
Look under Carbon Blingy Bits

WRT
19th March 2007, 09:18
I still havn't found the labia though.:innocent:

I do hope you are talking about the bike part. In which case, just search on that site for "labia" (search box at the top of the page).

If not, consult your doctor.

sidecar bob
19th March 2007, 09:28
What you laughing at woman?! The bloke he refers to is an Innocent :dodge:

CLICKY THING (http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=28)

Well bugger me, here is the very chap i refered too.

DMNTD
19th March 2007, 09:30
Well bugger me...
Thanks all the same Steve but I'll stick to labia's :yes:

Goblin
19th March 2007, 09:36
Thanks all the same Steve but I'll stick to labia's :yes:Labia's what?

DMNTD
19th March 2007, 09:40
Labia's what?
Her labia....come on stop being a...:dodge:



BTW...re-geared our Factory last week to -1 front and +1 rear. Has changed the bike into an assertive piece of kit without screwing with its "rideability".
Highly recommended.
Now,roll on Lotto so we can get a PC3 :yes:

sidecar bob
19th March 2007, 10:22
:laugh: And I'm a virgin....

The Aprilias really are sex on wheels....looking through your clicky thingy I see things like "saddle rubber, Screw w/ flange, self tapping screw, Clip-Nut Set" and the mind boggles.:gob: I still havn't found the labia though.:innocent:

I found it straight away.
More expierence at that type of thing i guess.:shutup:

Goblin
19th March 2007, 10:34
I do hope you are talking about the bike part. In which case, just search on that site for "labia" (search box at the top of the page). Roger that!


I found it straight away.
More expierence at that type of thing i guess.:shutup:Yeah well you would eh! I'm not in the habit of looking for labia...seen a few cameltoes though.:sick:

Kendog
19th March 2007, 17:09
He's (As in "he is") complaining about your use of -> ' .

We love Hitcher's (Possessive) grammatical perseverance.

I see.

Amazing how the conversation can change from the misuse of one tiny little '

Madness
19th March 2007, 17:25
At just $84.99. They truly are a girls bike, real blokes don't have Labias (note the lack of apostrophe).

Hitcher
19th March 2007, 18:23
Roger that!

Is that an affirmation or an instruction?

Hitcher
19th March 2007, 18:27
Presuming that Japanese car manufacturers use random word generators to produce names for various models (e.g. Emina, Bongo, Justy...) it is only a matter of time before I am stopped at the lights behind a Mazda Labia or a Toyota Clitoris. For heaven's sake, the Norwegians have already gone dangerously close in the car-named-after-female-private-parts stakes.

Goblin
19th March 2007, 18:59
Is that an affirmation or an instruction?An affirmation, unless your name is Bob...I've seen the way he looks at that bike.:love:


...Toyota Clitoris. For heaven's sake, the Norwegians have already gone dangerously close in the car-named-after-female-private-parts stakes.Sounds like a c*nt of a car.

sidecar bob
19th March 2007, 19:21
An affirmation, unless your name is Bob...I've seen the way he looks at that bike.:love:

Sounds like a c*nt of a car.

I was havin a wee masty about it after bolting away from you just out of Opotiki if you recall Goblin, But rogering the labia would be going a bit far.
Im parking it behind the RS125 & hoping a RS50 will appear in the garage one morning soon.

Nissan are having a laugh on us, Apparently Figaro is the Italian name for a womans bit.

Goblin
19th March 2007, 19:37
I was havin a wee masty about it after bolting away from you just out of Opotiki if you recall Goblin, But rogering the labia would be going a bit far.
Im parking it behind the RS125 & hoping a RS50 will appear in the garage one morning soon.
Yes I recall it well.:rolleyes:

:laugh: Might not work if the RSV has the "Clip-Nut Set"

You gave me a hell of a fright when you took off from Paengaroa too.:shit: I would have cried if you'd scratched it.

sidecar bob
19th March 2007, 19:43
Yes I recall it well.:rolleyes:

:laugh: Might not work if the RSV has the "Clip-Nut Set"

You gave me a hell of a fright when you took off from Paengaroa too.:shit: I would have cried if you'd scratched it.

Its called rear wheel steering, Surprising, occasionaly useful, but not reccomended. Thank god for owning a mx bike.
The clip nut set? is that some kind of sado masochistic device or kit for scrotum stimulation?

Goblin
20th March 2007, 08:21
Its called rear wheel steering, Surprising, occasionaly useful, but not reccomended. Thank god for owning a mx bike.
The clip nut set? is that some kind of sado masochistic device or kit for scrotum stimulation?I thought it was called "I didnt see the loose chip all over the intersection and gave it a handful."

Clip-nut set could be one of these...and you dont want to go there!:sick:

sidecar bob
20th March 2007, 16:05
I thought it was called "I didnt see the loose chip all over the intersection and gave it a handful."

Clip-nut set could be one of these...and you dont want to go there!:sick:
Which would be covered under "surprising"
Post the rest of the pics of the clip nut, With a nausea warning.