March Hare Kiwibiker Picnic

[Ruralman]

OK you lot who are coming to the Hare, theres a few of us from around Dunedin that thought that, seeing as how we are keen to do a ride somewhere on Saturday, we should introduce some extra fun by having a picnic.

The idea is an "upmarket picnic" in a remote location which we'll agree on once we get together. By upmarket we mean bring something a bit different - what that is is up to you, but things like unusual cheeses, olives and other shit like that in small bottles, smoked salmon/eels etc - one of our members already has the possum testicles covered so you don't need to bring them, and obviously something to drink (which might have to be tempered a bit because we still have to ride).

This should be fun and a good conversation starter and chance for old and new members to meet away from the rally site - however I can also feel the barbed wit of the KB fraternity ready to take pot shots at me, so fire away I think I'm ready!!

[NighthawkNZ]

OK you lot who are coming to the Hare, theres a few of us from around Dunedin that thought that, seeing as how we are keen to do a ride somewhere on Saturday, we should introduce some extra fun by having a picnic.

The idea is an "upmarket picnic" in a remote location which we'll agree on once we get together. By upmarket we mean bring something a bit different - what that is is up to you, but things like unusual cheeses, olives and other shit like that in small bottles, smoked salmon/eels etc - one of our members already has the possum testicles covered so you don't need to bring them, and obviously something to drink (which might have to be tempered a bit because we still have to ride).

This should be fun and a good conversation starter and chance for old and new members to meet away from the rally site - however I can also feel the barbed wit of the KB fraternity ready to take pot shots at me, so fire away I think I'm ready!!

So you decided you are actually going to the hare in the month of March huh??? :scratch: :lol:

[miSTa]

It will end in tears...no one likes following instructions. You have been warned.




Seriously, I like the idea. Count Mrs S and I in.

[NighthawkNZ]

I just don't kow what to bring... :scratch: some one can take me shopping FREE2B you up for some shopping????

[botb]

Ok i'm still keen for picnic.... i am coming up on Saturday morning leaving about 9 ETA i dunno ??? if anyone is keen to take a pillion on the picnic i have new brace now that i can bend my leg in and walking is not a problem they have encouraged me to get moving my leg as my muscle has gone south after only a week :gob: So a leaving time for this jaunt would be appreciated so i can make sure i am there on time :innocent: if i can get a ride??

~Chief in charge of Possum Testicles~

[NighthawkNZ]

Ok i'm still keen for picnic.... i am coming up on Saturday morning leaving about 9 ETA i dunno ??? if anyone is keen to take a pillion on the picnic i have new brace now that i can bend my leg in and walking is not a problem they have encouraged me to get moving my leg as my muscle has gone south after only a week :gob: So a leaving time for this jaunt would be appreciated so i can make sure i am there on time :innocent: if i can get a ride??

~Chief in charge of Possum Testicles~

I may be able take a pillion... see how it goe though... (I may already have one :doh:)

[laRIKin]

About what time are you thinking of do this?

Because some of us are riding down on the Saturday and may like to make it to the picnic as well.
And will not know where to go, if you are going to make up your mind on the day.
So will have to arrive at the site or where ever in time, to know where to ride for the picnic.

[NighthawkNZ]

I'm guessing we will be meeting in Waimate before hand soo we can buy stuff from supermarket :scratch:

[botb]

Cheers NH will play it by ear if no-one is keen i can just drive car to picnic location :yes:

[laRIKin]

I'm guessing we will be meeting in Waimate before hand soo we can buy stuff from supermarket :scratch:

Probably a real good idea.
Or I will be bring something that is hot and squashed after being in my pocket or pack for 4 hours. :sick:

[NighthawkNZ]

Probably a real good idea.
Or I will be bring something that is hot and squashed after being in my pocket or pack for 4 hours. :sick:

Been there do that, got the squashed melted guff to proove it :innocent: :sick:


Cheers NH will play it by ear if no-one is keen i can just drive car to picnic location :yes:

no problem... (don't forget to through your helmet and riding gear into the cage you bring.)

[FREE2B]

I got it sorted :yes: now if I can keep stuff without eating it for that long all will be fine.:innocent: I might drop a chiller bag off at your place tomorrow night Botb :yeah:

[botb]

No worries i'll be here .... i'm not going to make mine till Friday so i don't eat it all lol....

[NighthawkNZ]

I got it sorted :yes: now if I can keep stuff without eating it for that long all will be fine.:innocent: I might drop a chiller bag off at your place tomorrow night Botb :yeah:

hey...hey... ummm no ;)


No worries i'll be here .... i'm not going to make mine till Friday so i don't eat it all lol....

Yah see she has a little bit of my stuff too... :P

[Ruralman]

Is there anyone with some local knowledge that could help?? - needs to be a sealed road route 'cos some don't do gravel.
Ideally a picnic ground with a bit of shade although a country pub with a nice outdoors setting would also work pretty well?? (what do you think?)
A non pub location could be a picnic ground just below the Waitaki dam?

Sounds like it should be an afternoon thing - if anyone who's gone up on Friday feels like a morning ride then hopefully you can still link up for the afternoon. I reckon we probably want to get away reasonably early in the afternoon as I presume there'll be plenty of things happening at the rally from later in the afternoon?

So how about we plan on leaving the site at 1:30pm??

Would be great to have a location sorted before Friday so we all know where to end up - so if you have any ideas........

[NighthawkNZ]

Is there anyone with some local knowledge that could help?? - needs to be a sealed road route 'cos some don't do gravel.
Ideally a picnic ground with a bit of shade although a country pub with a nice outdoors setting would also work pretty well?? (what do you think?)
A non pub location could be a picnic ground just below the Waitaki dam?

Sounds like it should be an afternoon thing - if anyone who's gone up on Friday feels like a morning ride then hopefully you can still link up for the afternoon. I reckon we probably want to get away reasonably early in the afternoon as I presume there'll be plenty of things happening at the rally from later in the afternoon?

So how about we plan on leaving the site at 1:30pm??

Would be great to have a location sorted before Friday so we all know where to end up - so if you have any ideas........


There are a few day trippers from ChCH ie Lemans and Co, that may want to tag on as well... (as far as I know he may not go to the actual site) and I said we could or might do a regroup in Waimate before the pick a nick

[MyGSXF]

OOOhhh.. I say... jolly good show old chaps.. :yes: all sounds most civalized what!! :dodge:

ps: someone have an olive dipped in honey for me!!! :shutup:

Jen :rockon:

[Ruralman]

There are a few day trippers from ChCH ie Lemans and Co, that may want to tag on as well... (as far as I know he may not go to the actual site) and I said we could or might do a regroup in Waimate before the pick a nick

Yeah I got the gist of that - hence the afternoon suggestion. It will make it easier for them and probably everyone if we can pick a location before Friday

[Ruralman]

OOOhhh.. I say... jolly good show old chaps.. :yes: all sounds most civalized what!! :dodge:

ps: someone have an olive dipped in honey for me!!! :shutup:

Jen :rockon:

But I don't know anyone called Honey????:innocent: :innocent:

[T.W.R]

There are a few day trippers from ChCH ie Lemans and Co, that may want to tag on as well... (as far as I know he may not go to the actual site) and I said we could or might do a regroup in Waimate before the pick a nick

:weird: I'm sure Bruce can read :oi-grr:


OOOhhh.. I say... jolly good show old chaps.. :yes: all sounds most civalized what!! :dodge:

ps: someone have an olive dipped in honey for me!!! :shutup:

Jen :rockon:

:shutup: Almost as bad as a certain bunch Al Fresco dining on the way to the Winchester rally a wee ways back :dodge:

:sick: Olives

[MyGSXF]

Weeelll.. ok.. I'll change that.. make it.. I'll have my honey dipped in strawberries.. :drool: but I ain't gunna be there.... :crybaby: :thud: :innocent:

[NighthawkNZ]

:weird: I'm sure Bruce can read :oi-grr:


Debatable at times... :dodge:







sorry bruce

[Ruralman]

Weeelll.. ok.. I'll change that.. make it.. I'll have my honey dipped in strawberries.. :drool: but I ain't gunna be there.... :crybaby: :thud: :innocent:

:shutup: :shutup: :shutup: : - no don't mention the chocolate:shutup: :shutup: :shutup:

[FREE2B]

someone say CHOCOLATE ...:love:

[MyGSXF]

:shutup: :shutup: :shutup: : - no don't mention the chocolate:shutup: :shutup: :shutup:


ok.. I won't.. :shutup: but ask him bout 'chocolate' when ya see him... :shifty:

anyone taking any to the piccy btw.....????? :rolleyes:

[FREE2B]

or ya could just tell ......come on.....

[Ruralman]

or ya could just tell ......come on.....

Ahemmmm....... I have absolutely no idea what she is talking about:innocent: :innocent: mmmmm how do I get the chocolate there without melting it until the required moment ????

[MyGSXF]

or ya could just tell ......come on.....

ehh ehh ehhhhhh..... :shutup: I knowz nussink... :shifty:

sooo.. you like chocolate too huh chickie....??? :yes: what flavour???

[FREE2B]

Ahemmmm....... I have absolutely no idea what she is talking about:innocent: :innocent: mmmmm how do I get the chocolate there without melting it until the required moment ????

now that depends totally on where you stick it of course

[NighthawkNZ]

now that depends totally on where you stick it of course

errrrr. :rofl:

[MyGSXF]

now that depends totally on where you stick it of course


:killingme :clap: you go gurl!!! :devil2:

[Ruralman]

now that depends totally on where you stick it of course

ooohhhhh:gob: I used to hear voices - now all I see is images!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I'm going to retreat about now - 2 more sleeps

NOW GET BACK ON THE BLOODY TOPIC!!!!!

[NighthawkNZ]

NOW GET BACK ON THE BLOODY TOPIC!!!!!

Theres a topic???

[T.W.R]

now that depends totally on where you stick it of course

:shit: Nothing got stuck anywhere :gob: that's mmmmmmmm :shutup:

[98tls]

What about going up through waimate gorge towards kurow........nice ride and am guessing theres plenty of spots by the river to stop at...........

[miSTa]

NOW GET BACK ON THE BLOODY TOPIC!!!!!
Fuck I reckon too! :wacko:


So how about we plan on leaving the site at 1:30pm??
I think 11:30am would be the time to leave the site. By the the everyone has gone to the supermarket for their supplies and we find a spot it's going to be 1:30. Add another couple of hours for eating some lunch, finding a few tracks for a bit of a explore, we'll be back at the site by about 4:00 - perfect.


What about going up through waimate gorge towards kurow........nice ride and am guessing theres plenty of spots by the river to stop at...........
Gotta go through the gorge for sure. Looking at Google maps there's a few side roads off Hakataramea Highway that go down to the river. There could also be a few good spots On McHenrys Rd at Hakataramea itself, could stop at the Haka pub for a quick one as well.

[laRIKin]

What about going up through waimate gorge towards kurow........nice ride and am guessing theres plenty of spots by the river to stop at...........

That would suite me as I hope to be doing the inland route and could meet up before I get to Waimate, if I'm running late.
And of course it is a nice spot as well, just park a bike so I can see it, so I can find your picnic spot.

And I could get something from Omarama before I arrive, like Raw Squid (fish bait). :dodge:
Or buy something for me and I'll fix you up when I get there.(better idea)

[Ruralman]

Ok it sounds like all we need is a meeting point in Waimate at 1:30 and we can make it up as we go from there.
I've never been to the town so does anyone know an obvious spot - supermarket carpark or monument or something.
I've heard about this Waimate gorge being a good ride so I was going to get up there anyway - also trying to suss out some possibilities for a wallaby shooting trip in a month or so. We've got some contacts for this but I'm quite keen to have a bit of a look around first.

Lemans - by the sound of things if you dip your squid bait in chocolate there'll be some takers!!!

[98tls]

Waimate has a park/garden area a few hundred meters from the shops on there main street.........how about meeting there at 1.30.Stopping at the Haka pub would have been a great idea sensible but sadly it is no longer open,if a beer is needed theres 2 pubs over the bridge at kurow.

[miSTa]

How about this place? About 30k's out from Waimate, on the river bank, trees, what more is needed?

Yeah ok there's a little gravel but it is only a wee bit.

Just a thought.

[Midnight Special]

Did someone say wallaby shooting :ar15:

[botb]

Hey Sue are you going to make to this one? come on girl get your gears on give the hubby a big reassuring :love: the night before and get on your special and do it.... or you can cruise up in the cage with me for an overnighter i promise your hubby i'll look after ya:innocent:

[Ruralman]

How about this place? About 30k's out from Waimate, on the river bank, trees, what more is needed?

Yeah ok there's a little gravel but it is only a wee bit.

Just a thought.

that looks Ok to me - and theres plenty of options of where to go afterwards. I presume that route you show is through the Waimate gorge I keep hearing about? The gravel you are referring to? - is that under the white line you have drawn?

[Ruralman]

Waimate has a park/garden area a few hundred meters from the shops on there main street.........how about meeting there at 1.30.Stopping at the Haka pub would have been a great idea sensible but sadly it is no longer open,if a beer is needed theres 2 pubs over the bridge at kurow.

Sounds like a plan Mike - so mainstreet park at 1:30 and then heading out to that picnic ground on the teddy bear map.

If you want to find a pub afterwards its not too far from there to Kurow pub, or maybe over Benmore to Otematata pub (dunno if oldrider will be back with his new bike by then? - if so call could on him as well). If theres another rider keen for a gravel ride then back via Myers Pass appeals to me.

[laRIKin]

How about this place? About 30k's out from Waimate, on the river bank, trees, what more is needed?

Yeah ok there's a little gravel but it is only a wee bit.

Just a thought.

Sounds good to me and I'm sure that I can find it.

[98tls]

Just been talking to mrs oldrider over the back fence.........john is away getting the bike.......he has his camping gear so may well just turn up at the rally............How much gravel road are we talking here.......my bikes a spoilt brat and hates gravel...........

[NighthawkNZ]

my bikes a spoilt brat and hates gravel...........

so does mine... :(

some one said to me... its probably the wider sports tyres, has a whole lot more gravel under the tyre, and you notice it lot sliding more where you don't want it to slide, where as dual purpose tyres not as wide, less gravel on the surface of the tyre and the tyre can also act like a knife cutting through the gravel.

don't know if its true or not but, sorta makes sense to me... I just know while I don't mind short distances on gravel on the VTR, I wouldn't want to do 100ks of km's where as on my last bike it didn't bother me, and its tyres weren't as wide...

[miSTa]

that looks Ok to me - and theres plenty of options of where to go afterwards. I presume that route you show is through the Waimate gorge I keep hearing about? The gravel you are referring to? - is that under the white line you have drawn?
Yep, the route shown takes in the whole gorge, though really in the scheme of things its not the most spectacular or biggest gorge. The white is I never drew in, that's courtesy of Google Maps.


Sounds good to me and I'm sure that I can find it.
Only if you don't need a lie down first.


How much gravel road are we talking here.

so does mine... :(
If you guys are talking about the white in the picture I posted then I would estimate a couple of hundred metres. If you're talking about RMs suggestion for a trip through Meyers pass I don't know but I would hazard a guess at 40-50km.

[98tls]

No worrys with a few hundred meters at all.........eating dust from a BMW might be a tad embarrassing though...........:innocent:

[NighthawkNZ]

If you guys are talking about the white in the picture I posted then I would estimate a couple of hundred metres.

I can handle that no problem... :)

[Seraph]

Sounds great and I'd be keen but being a poor arse student ...after forking out for entrance fee, a tent, food for the weekend, petrol to get there and drinks (damn being 17!!) My wallet has become rather light...I think I may have a whole 50c left....does a cubbachup cound as exotic food?:P

[98tls]

i reckon it would mate..........wont be to worried about picnic food myself..will just go for the ride.........will end up having a pub meal later in the day am guessing.......one of the pubs in waimate does a great roast by all accounts

[miSTa]

Sounds great and I'd be keen but being a poor arse student ...after forking out for entrance fee, a tent, food for the weekend, petrol to get there and drinks (damn being 17!!) My wallet has become rather light...I think I may have a whole 50c left....does a cubbachup cound as exotic food?:P
Wouldn't worry about, the more the merrier.

[Ruralman]

Sounds great and I'd be keen but being a poor arse student ...after forking out for entrance fee, a tent, food for the weekend, petrol to get there and drinks (damn being 17!!) My wallet has become rather light...I think I may have a whole 50c left....does a cubbachup cound as exotic food?:P

Don't worry about it at all - looks like I'll be packing enough for at least one extra - hope you like smelly cheese!!!
I bet there'll be some of those chocolate dipped strawberries at the market day morning, I found some...... wait a minute, you can bloody wait and see

[98tls]

Don't worry about it at all - looks like I'll be packing enough for at least one extra - hope you like smelly cheese!!!
:gob: Jesus i hope thats not what it sounds like

[Ruralman]

so does mine... :(

some one said to me... its probably the wider sports tyres, has a whole lot more gravel under the tyre, and you notice it lot sliding more where you don't want it to slide, where as dual purpose tyres not as wide, less gravel on the surface of the tyre and the tyre can also act like a knife cutting through the gravel.

don't know if its true or not but, sorta makes sense to me... I just know while I don't mind short distances on gravel on the VTR, I wouldn't want to do 100ks of km's where as on my last bike it didn't bother me, and its tyres weren't as wide...

You're pretty well right in your analysis. We did have one rider on our Passes ride on a Bandit and while he certainly had to slow for the gravel he still got there.
You do get used to it moving around a bit - the thing that probably makes the most difference is the handlebars - narrow clipons are the worst and wider bars the best.
Most Harleys are actually pretty good on the gravel and the real riders amoungst them aren't put off by gravel roads - of course there's also the posers more worried about looks and stone chips etc who won't go anywhere near gravel. A lot of cruisers and retro Triumphs have larger front wheels which helps a lot, and they also have wide bars and also a low centre of gravity - and of course on gravel you don't lean over much so generally you don't have to worry about scraping bodywork.

[Ruralman]

:gob: Jesus i hope thats not what it sounds like

What - don't you like that blue stuff washed down with a good ale??????:yes:

[NighthawkNZ]

What - don't you like that blue stuff washed down with a good ale??????:yes:

Nah he just doesn't like the cheesy bits...


You're pretty well right in your analysis. We did have one rider on our Passes ride on a Bandit and while he certainly had to slow for the gravel he still got there.
You do get used to it moving around a bit - the thing that probably makes the most difference is the handlebars - narrow clipons are the worst and wider bars the best.
Most Harleys are actually pretty good on the gravel and the real riders amoungst them aren't put off by gravel roads - of course there's also the posers more worried about looks and stone chips etc who won't go anywhere near gravel. A lot of cruisers and retro Triumphs have larger front wheels which helps a lot, and they also have wide bars and also a low centre of gravity - and of course on gravel you don't lean over much so generally you don't have to worry about scraping bodywork.

Well I have those shorter bars and a high CoG, where as me XJ special had wider handle bars and lower CoG plus the tyres... hmmm yeah makes sense... :scratch: I think :lol:

I don't mind short distances on the VTR...

[98tls]

What - don't you like that blue stuff washed down with a good ale??????:yes: yea mate............just thats not what it sounded like..............:innocent:

[Ruralman]

yea mate............just thats not what it sounded like..............:innocent:

I am not going to go back to try and work out what you mean for fear of finding a mind with a worse warped sense of humour than mine:gob:

[Seraph]

Sooo plan is to meet at the park at 1.30 and ride out from there?

[NighthawkNZ]

Bike is all packed... (i'm gonna have to cut back on my luxuries makes me look like I'm turing the whole south island or something...) :doh: :whocares:

[miSTa]

Sooo plan is to meet at the park at 1.30 and ride out from there?
The way I read the thread (amongst the dribble) it is to be ready and rearing to go for a departure time to the picnic site at 1:30.

[botb]

Ok guys ya'll ride safe and have a great Friday nite... will see you all on Saturday ready to picaneek!! and Seraph don't worry about the food thing there is plenty and as someone else said the more the merrier :yes:

[NighthawkNZ]

Ok guys ya'll ride safe and have a great Friday nite... will see you all on Saturday ready to picaneek!! and Seraph don't worry about the food thing there is plenty and as someone else said the more the merrier :yes:

its a pick a nick... geese don't you know nuffin



:rofl:




PS... drive safe and will see yah saturday

[Ruralman]

Sooo plan is to meet at the park at 1.30 and ride out from there?

Yes, see you there (make sure you've got room to carry sensibles's pottery)

[NighthawkNZ]

My report of the March Hare Rally and Picnic thingy
http://quantumillusions.com/biker/node/233

[Ruralman]

jUst quick not on this - I haven't looked at NH's report so it might be in there as well -
The picnic thing worked pretty well - a site closer to the rally site would have been better but other than that it worked well, got us away for about the right length of time and made an opportunity for some interesting relaxed conversations as well as a nice ride.

General consensus then was we should do it again at future events but chuck in new ideas to make it interesting.

[laRIKin]

Well I found the place you were going to have the Teddy Bears Picnic, but you weren't there.

And I have found out later I rode passed the place you had it, bugger, never mind there will be another time.

Good to catch up again even tho it was only for a short time.

See you at the Brass.

[MyGSXF]

...chuck in new ideas to make it interesting.


:gob: the mind boggles...















:chase:

[miSTa]

My report of the March Hare Rally and Picnic thingy
http://quantumillusions.com/biker/node/233
BTW it was a "picnic thingy" just a picnic. :yes:


jUst quick not on this - I haven't looked at NH's report so it might be in there as well -
The picnic thing worked pretty well - a site closer to the rally site would have been better but other than that it worked well, got us away for about the right length of time and made an opportunity for some interesting relaxed conversations as well as a nice ride.

General consensus then was we should do it again at future events but chuck in new ideas to make it interesting.
It was a good picnic, great fun and something a little different. We did go to far but having said that there were no roads to the Waitaki, never mind.


Well I found the place you were going to have the Teddy Bears Picnic, but you weren't there.

And I have found out later I rode passed the place you had it, bugger, never mind there will be another time.

Good to catch up again even tho it was only for a short time.

See you at the Brass.
You would've been struggling to find us where we did have it anyway - the bikes were under the bridge just before Hakataramea and we kind of under some trees some distance away from the bridge itself. There'll be another day I'm sure.