Why is it....

[judecatmad]

.....that bike shops charge you for the fitting of tyres?

I can understand it if the wheels have to be taken off the bike cos there's a lot of work there (much more so that the taking off of car wheels), but if you take your bike wheels into a bike shop, sans bike, and buy the tyres from the same bike shop doing the fitting, why the charge?

If you take your car in for new tyres, there's no fitting charge (and some even offer free puncture repairs - love Tony's Tyre Service!) - so why is there with bikes? It seems like a bit of a rip-off to me :(

Is it because bike shops don't exclusively fit tyres and so, if they weren't fitting your tyres, they'd be doing some other repair work which would be chargeable? If it is, it begs the question as to why there's no tyre fitting shops that exclusively do bikes - or would that be a no-no?

This isn't a thread aimed at dissing bike shops - not at all - it's just simply a genuine 'why is it done that way' question.

[_Gina_]

Our company spends in excess of 2.5M p/a on tyres (for cars) and there is a fitting charge and a balancing charge for all of these tyres (we get reso discount and rebates though :))

Pretty sure that even if you take your wheel into the tyre store they will charge you for fitting it, as they will need to fit and balance your new tyre to your rim. Unless they are being nice to you!

[Motu]

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If you take your car in for new tyres, there's no fitting charge .[/QUOTE]

Oh yes there is! It's built into the price of the tyre.

And so why shouldn't the bike shop charge for the labour to fit a tyre - do you work for nothing?

[vifferman]

I'd rather pay than change my own tyres.
And I'd rather ride my bike in and ride it out, than just take the wheels in.

Although I'm seriously considering taking the wheels in next time, getting the tyres taken off, then stripping and polishing the wheels before the new tyres are fitted.

[judecatmad]

Oh yes there is! It's built into the price of the tyre.

And so why shouldn't the bike shop charge for the labour to fit a tyre - do you work for nothing?

If that's the case then it makes sense - one charge is transparent, one isn't.

Like I said, it was a genuine question as to why the difference - not a poke at bike shops.

[avgas]

why dont bike shops include the fitting as a part of the price?
then do a discount if you fit it yourself?
Its all very arse'bout'face if you ask me.
Its like getting a price for a bike with no petrol in it

[Motu]

Probably because someone advertised free fitting.....and then someone brought in a Goldwing and demanded free fitting,including removal of the wheels.Car tyres are pretty straight forward - a handfull of wheel nuts,whiz bang....slap on the tyre machine,onto the balancer....whiiz bang....back on the car.You can build that into the price of the tyre....along with all the other costs of running a business.Bikes are a lot more variable - if your tyres are easy to fit why should you pay for someone elses tyres that are hard to fit....or do you want that?

[Lorax]

And I'd rather ride my bike in and ride it out, than just take the wheels in.


Would be rather difficult if you've got a dead flat tyre after a blow out or something. Think that's what it sounds like the issue was.

[The Pastor]

I took one wheel into cycle treads and asked them to take the rubber off my rim, He took in his hand and with a few quick movements they had that sucker right off! Didnt charge me for it either!

[slopster]

Take them to a car tyre place. I used to get mine fitted for $5 a tyre when I was buying ex race tyres and having to replace them every 1500km. They can't usually ballance bike tyres but bike tyres don't normally need it unless they have been patched.

[imdying]

Pitlane here in Christchurch don't charge (or build it in or whatever). As their service is good, and the price seems reasonable, I've never had a need to shop elsewhere... about as far as I get is checking around online for pricing :)

Generally Pitlane will want your bike for a little while (less than two hours to an hour in my experience), but try their best to do them ASAP if you bring just the wheels in.

[judecatmad]

Would be rather difficult if you've got a dead flat tyre after a blow out or something. Think that's what it sounds like the issue was.

No, we bought new tyres for hubby's bike after he came off late last year. Tyres were pretty old and worn out and needed it anyway, thought it was as good a time as any (probably left it too late in hindsight).

Dave's bike wasn't rideable when we had the tyres replaced so that's why we took just the wheels in.

And there wasn't actually an issue with paying for the fitting - it seems to be common practice across all bike shops so you have to go with it. I just couldn't understand the difference between car tyre places and bike shops.

Me and my big mouth......sometimes I should just let those unanswered questions remain so! :shutup:

[Ixion]

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I can understand it if the wheels have to be taken off the bike cos there's a lot of work there (much more so that the taking off of car wheels),..

Harrumph. Grumble. Mutter. Moan. Wasn't always the way. *WAS* a time when taking the wheel off a bike was dead easy.

Rear (or front as case may be) stand down, unscrew axle with built in tommy bar, no tools needed at all. Remove QD wheel. Done. 30 seconds, no tools.

Mutter . Grumble . Gripe. Good old days. Hurrumph.

As you were. Crusty out.

[vifferman]

why dont bike shops include the fitting as a part of the price?
then do a discount if you fit it yourself?
Maybe they do.

The bike shops I've bought tyres at have always just quoted me a price - that's the fitted+balanced price. As I'm not interested in the price for just the tyres on their own, I've no idea what's being charged for the tyres or the fitting/balancing. I just want to know what the total cost is to me.

I suspect that at least one of the tyre sets I've bought was free fitting, which would explain the cheaper price. The shop has to pay the technician regardless, so if he's not too busy and it guarantees a sale rather than you going somewhere else, I guess that's where they'd make a cut.

[vifferman]

Harrumph. Grumble. Mutter. Moan. Wasn't always the way. *WAS* a time when taking the wheel off a bike was dead easy.

Rear (or front as case may be) stand down, unscrew axle with built in tommy bar, no tools needed at all. Remove QD wheel. Done. 30 seconds, no tools.

And I bet that in those days the QD wheels also had a tendency to detach themselves...

[Ixion]

Nope. Never heard of that happening.Triumph were still fitting QD rear wheels well into the 60s.

[bistard]

Take them to a car tyre place. I used to get mine fitted for $5 a tyre when I was buying ex race tyres and having to replace them every 1500km. They can't usually ballance bike tyres but bike tyres don't normally need it unless they have been patched.

Mate,they all need to be ballanced,some car tyre places dont have the adaptors on there machines & can damage your rims
I aggree with Motu,because there are so many variants in the bikes,Goldwing is a good example,scooters are another one,where you have to remove body work & sometimes the exhaust,you will find there is not a set charge & having been in the industry,there is next to no money in the sale of the tyre anyway

[avgas]

....or do you want that?
I probably wouldn't care actually, if i were charged $5 extra cos the poor bastard who does my tyres also had to do a goldwings.
I mean do you complain about the fact that you pay for the guys who waste the wof officers time by trying to explain why their car is too low

[Motu]

Pitlane here in Christchurch don't charge (or build it in or whatever). .


Of course they do! Does the tyre fitter do it for free? No,he is paid for his work,from the profit generated by tyre sales. The higher their mark up on new tyres,the more they can ''appear'' to offer good deals - good deals don't appear out of thin air.Selling product at no profit and paying wages out of nothing is a sure way to go out of business.

[Motu]

I mean do you complain about the fact that you pay for the guys who waste the wof officers time by trying to explain why their car is too low

Waste my time and you'll pay for it.The WoF fee is based on time taken....if I spend an hour on a WoF check I am entitled to charge for that hour.

[cooneyr]

Pitlane here in Christchurch don't charge (or build it in or whatever). As their service is good, and the price seems reasonable, ......

Whenever I've been into pitlane I've always been quoted the tyre price and then the additional fitting price. I fit my own tyres so not worried about the fitting price.

Pitlane does offers very good service from my experience. After fitting rim locks (not from pitlane) I wanted to balance my rims so they were balanced and to get an idea of how much they were out i.e. is it something to worry about. I took in both wheels, was done in about 5 mins and cost nothing. I would be more than happy to pay - employies time always costs the shop. Make a point of going to pit lane first now if I need anything cause of this. Other reason is that they normally point you in the right direction if they cant help - this is exceptional service in my mind.

Cheers R

[Pixie]

I took one wheel into cycle treads and asked them to take the rubber off my rim, He took in his hand and with a few quick movements they had that sucker right off! Didnt charge me for it either!

Cycletreads are good.
They even fit tyres that I obtain elsewhere,for a reasonable charge.

[Deviant Esq]

+1 for Cycletreads (Christchurch). They've been pretty good to me with tyres and brake pads - reasonable prices and prompt service (with the tyre at least, did the brake pads myself). Narrow bloody doorway to push your bike through though...