Maori Sickness

[Flatcap]

It is this type of absolute bollocks that really annoys law abiding honkies like myself.

I hope they throw the Rev in the slammer for wasting the courts time

http://www.stuff.co.nz/3987700a10.html

[Scouse]

Hey that could be rickards defence

[Karma]

Yeh, just saw that too... I got caught burgling a house the other day, but I have Pakeha sickness, so when I stole everything that poor Maori family own I was only thinking about how we raised an empire back in the day.

[sAsLEX]

Love the bit where the person defending his home from some crazy sick maori is awaiting trail....... go our justice system

[PuppetMaster]

Yeh, just saw that too... I got caught burgling a house the other day, but I have Pakeha sickness, so when I stole everything that poor Maori family own I was only thinking about how we raised an empire back in the day.



A taniwha is gonna come and eat your children.

[Hans]

I have Maori sickness as well.... I'm sick of all the Maori bullshit. Sorry Clive et al.

One of these days I'll start suffering from a Northern sickness. It's called Berserkgang. Wonder if I'll get a reduced sentence when Colapop comes to court and speaks in my defense.

[elle-f]

I am a law abiding hori and that Maori Sickness excuse is bloody stupid although i have no idea why somebody would be carrying around a taiaha.......

[spookytooth]

although i have no idea why somebody would be carrying around a taiaha.......

Simple to bash ppl once the sickness kicked in :)

[mikey62]

Wheres my gun :2guns:

[Dave Lobster]

"It is only elders who carry these things around. The Maori sickness was upon him. That is the sacredness of carrying these things. It was like a curse had been laid upon him."

Sounds like sycle cell to me.

[Macktheknife]

What a load of bollocks, there may be a taboo or tapu on carrying the objects of a kaumatua, but come on! this makes you commit crimes?
Take the stick off the ignorant little shit and beat him with it!
let's see how sick he feels after that.

[JimO]

its a pity the guy with the gun wasnt a better shot but of course that would be him fucked as well, i reckon anybody commiting a crime has no rights and whatever happens to them is too bad but in good old PC NZ the burgler gets off and the homeowner gets to play hide the sosage with his cellmate

[sunhuntin]

jimjim...yep. the crims have all the rights, and the victims get nothing.

reckon the bitch who hit me had the same sickness...she ran a stop sign, could have killed me [somehow i managed to not land in front of oncoming traffic] and she got let off. i nearly got charged for going slightly over the limit. yet, had i been going exactly 50k, i would have hit her door, or the back door, possibly causing her into premature labour, or seriosuly injuring one of her other 100 kids.
i got stuck in a cast, and lost my job. acc dicked me around till there was basically no point bothering. she get nothing. said shed pay, and admitted fault, then denied everything when we chased her up. bike was written off [it was destroyed.]

[candor]

Seen a bit of Maori sickness. Never saw a case that caused that kinda behaviour. I think the reverend Kaa best rething that one or else if hes right he best go lay his hands and blessings on all the other home invaders, burglars and pisshead who get into a tussle.

The main problem for the sick guy really was that taiaha does not beat gun. After that challenge I'd say he was glad to throw down his walking stick n'all!

[Guitana]

I had the Maori sickness once I awoke in the morning could'nt be fucked going to work signed up for the dole that afternoon then spent two months doing burg's,smoking pot drinking every night and beating the missus and kids when they asked me for money to buy groceries!!!!!!
And my taiaha's only ten inches long!!!!!

[JimO]

ten inches.....not what i heard

[shafty]

An old Army expression springs to mind.................."Load; Aim; Fire"

[Guitana]

ten inches.....not what i heard

Just being modest!

[SwanTiger]

The definition of the sickness is briefly mentioned at the end of the article, which is typical of the media to neglect the facts. When one compares 'Maori sickness' with something such as 'Anorexia' it doesn't seem as rediculous as the article makes it out to be.

I am aware of one instance where a pakeha male used tapu land (specifically a burial ground) as easy access to a fishing spot out near Leigh. Local iwi warned and forbid him from doing so, however he ignored them and cotinued to use the land instead of going through an alternative path.

Eventually his subconcious (or something else) got the better of him, it started with dreams of a Maori-legend type creature attacking him in his sleep, and then he developed more severe physcological problems relating to axiety surrounding is actions and the supposed consequences (on a spiritual level I guess?).

Regardless, the offenders in this instance have all been handled accordingly and the particular offender admited his guilt in court.

As for the comments regarding the male inside the house discharging the firearm; In accordance with the firearms laws he has commited an offence and been charged. Simple.

[Smorg]

The definition of the sickness is briefly mentioned at the end of the article, which is typical of the media to neglect the facts. When one compares 'Maori sickness' with something such as 'Anorexia' it doesn't seem as rediculous as the article makes it out to be.

I am aware of one instance where a pakeha male used tapu land (specifically a burial ground) as easy access to a fishing spot out near Leigh. Local iwi warned and forbid him from doing so, however he ignored them and cotinued to use the land instead of going through an alternative path.

Eventually his subconcious (or something else) got the better of him, it started with dreams of a Maori-legend type creature attacking him in his sleep, and then he developed more severe physcological problems relating to axiety surrounding is actions and the supposed consequences (on a spiritual level I guess?).

Regardless, the offenders in this instance have all been handled accordingly and the particular offender admited his guilt in court.

As for the comments regarding the male inside the house discharging the firearm; In accordance with the firearms laws he has commited an offence and been charged. Simple.

Shhhhhhhhhh!

[Finn]

The definition of the sickness is briefly mentioned at the end of the article, which is typical of the media to neglect the facts. When one compares 'Maori sickness' with something such as 'Anorexia' it doesn't seem as rediculous as the article makes it out to be.

I am aware of one instance where a pakeha male used tapu land (specifically a burial ground) as easy access to a fishing spot out near Leigh. Local iwi warned and forbid him from doing so, however he ignored them and cotinued to use the land instead of going through an alternative path.

Eventually his subconcious (or something else) got the better of him, it started with dreams of a Maori-legend type creature attacking him in his sleep, and then he developed more severe physcological problems relating to axiety surrounding is actions and the supposed consequences (on a spiritual level I guess?).

I think you're right Swanny. I've been bad to maori's (telling them to get off their arses) for years and the strange thing is, my stuff keeps disappearing!

[Quartermile]

its a pity the guy with the gun wasnt a better shot but of course that would be him fucked as well, i reckon anybody commiting a crime has no rights and whatever happens to them is too bad but in good old PC NZ the burgler gets off and the homeowner gets to play hide the sosage with his cellmate

Yet in our stupid justice system they actually end up watching Sky Tv and having gourmet meals, with no cell mate cos its 'inhumane' or some crap

[SwanTiger]

I think you're right Swanny. I've been bad to maori's (telling them to get off their arses) for years and the strange thing is, my stuff keeps disappearing!
Haha, pity I can't bling you.

[JimO]

Haha, pity I can't bling you.

why did someone steal your bling

[oldguy]

I feel an MDO coming on, I hate fishing, but the things we have to do, to get better, sometimes it can take a week to get over this sickness, funny it all seems to revolve around how the fishing is going.

[Finn]

funny it all seems to revolve around how the fishing is going.

Some of us have a larger quota.

[scumdog]

Some of us have a larger quota.


Larger than Guitanas taiaha????:shutup:

[BuFfY]

It isn't his fault he has the warrior gene....

[alexthekidd]

can one claim maori sickness for speeding or traffic offences

[petermonkeyguru]

Racism is a seditious form of expressing ones own insecurities. Taking the stereotypical view and mixing it with ignorance and arrogance will only close your mind further, you’ll become even more narrow and insecure.
To an outside culture think about how weird westerners can seem; we have people who put their faith into a positive mind positive confession culture of success magical powers of the mind, others beleive in a Jewish God with a Greek name who can openly communicate with them – they believe in curses and blessings and the power of an omnipotent being. Why rubbish the things of the Spirit realm when its expressed as a Maori concept - with out understanding it.

[Lil_Byte]

Racism is a seditious form of expressing ones own insecurities. Taking the stereotypical view and mixing it with ignorance and arrogance will only close your mind further, you’ll become even more narrow and insecure.
To an outside culture think about how weird westerners can seem; we have people who put their faith into a positive mind positive confession culture of success magical powers of the mind, others beleive in a Jewish God with a Greek name who can openly communicate with them – they believe in curses and blessings and the power of an omnipotent being. Why rubbish the things of the Spirit realm when its expressed as a Maori concept - with out understanding it.

Sorry mate it sounds like a load of crap to me..... More likely the little toe rag was half out of his nut on P.

Is that the new Maori sickness..... And I am allowed to abuse them as I have my fair share of that blood floating around in my system and this sort of crap makes me ashamed to admit it.

:argue:

[Mr Merde]

Racism is a seditious form of expressing ones own insecurities. Taking the stereotypical view and mixing it with ignorance and arrogance will only close your mind further, you’ll become even more narrow and insecure.
To an outside culture think about how weird westerners can seem; we have people who put their faith into a positive mind positive confession culture of success magical powers of the mind, others beleive in a Jewish God with a Greek name who can openly communicate with them – they believe in curses and blessings and the power of an omnipotent being. Why rubbish the things of the Spirit realm when its expressed as a Maori concept - with out understanding it.

Just let me try and understand this.

If I fail to acknowledge that a spiritual belief led this man to commit a crime, then I am a racist.

If I do accept this claim then the next time I commit a crime, say speeding, I should be able to claim that my Catholic upbringing is to blame. I was raised a Catholic and such believe in heaven and hell and the devil. If the devil, in my belief system is the source of all evil then by commiting a crime I am being led astray by the devil and not responsible for my actions.

Yes I can just see the judicial system acepting this as my defence, "the devil made me do it, your honour. Therefore I am not responsible for my actions and cannot be held accountable".

What a load of fucking bollocks.

This seems to be another case of finding some way to frighten the tree hugging fraternity into giving in to emotional blackmail. eg If we say it is "cultural" they will give up and go away.

The politically correct left wing in our society may be frightened by such obvious crap but surely the majority of the populace cant help but see this claim for what it really is....

ANOTHER LOAD OF BULLSHIT.

[avgas]

A taniwha is gonna come and eat your children.

Too late, ECNZ drowned the taniwha with the Clyde Dam, in the early 90's

[Hans]

Racism is a seditious form of expressing ones own insecurities. Taking the stereotypical view and mixing it with ignorance and arrogance will only close your mind further, you’ll become even more narrow and insecure.
To an outside culture think about how weird westerners can seem; we have people who put their faith into a positive mind positive confession culture of success magical powers of the mind, others beleive in a Jewish God with a Greek name who can openly communicate with them – they believe in curses and blessings and the power of an omnipotent being. Why rubbish the things of the Spirit realm when its expressed as a Maori concept - with out understanding it.

So where's the racism on this thread? Racism, my friend, is a belief that a certain race is inferior to another race. End of story. And which is the Jewish god with a Greek name, pray tell? And who are you to say that we don't understand the Maori concept of the spirit realm?

Picture this: I go on Berserkgang /google it/ in a farking shopping mall, I go to court. I try and use it as an excuse. I don't get very far. As opposed to MS, which looks like it was partially accepted by the court as an explanation at least, if not an excuse.

So the discrimination here is against me because I am not Maori.

Oh, and btw, I think that REJECT actually tarnished your precious Maori spirituality by even trying to bring it up as a defence for his aggresive, shitfaced, P fuelled or otherwise behavior.

End of "civilised, un-insecure, un-seditious argument. HOWGH!

[avgas]

Racism is an overused, tangent word to what it means originally.
I am a racist - i dont disrespect for culture, religion, or ideals. Yet i am also stuck with a problem.
How can i respect the people, not the ones that follow their culture, but the people who use it like a lever for their life. I cant. I don't want to live with bludging, whining, un-cultured wannabe's. Why should i, its my life as much it is theirs.
But you see, because i have now separated a large group of people i dont want to associate with - im now a racist.
Well tough taro suckers, cos unlike you - i really dont give a fuck what people say or think. I live my own life, i follow my own tradition, i have my own culture - so until you respect mine, why should i respect yours.

[Hans]

Or you could put it like Avgas. Tough.

[SwanTiger]

The court heard the case brought against the particular offender, who pleaded guilty, and setenced him to 9 months imprisonment, likely to be reduced to home detention.

The Rev. offered an explanation, not an excuse, as to why the offender commited the crimes. Regardless of what was said after or before hand, the offender plead guilty!

No special treatment was given, he never asked for any (according to the news articles) and justice was served.

This is a racist thread.

I have demonstrated why: You have all failed to be objective about the topic, instead it has become another Maori bashing thread.

[Hans]

"Racism is a belief system or doctrine which postulates a hierarchy among various "human races" or ethnic groups. It may be based on a conception assuming inherent biological differences between different ethnic groups, which would be purported to determine cultural or individual behaviour."

And again, how is this thread racist?

Apply to the Waitangi Tribunal to get this thread deleted, if you must.

[SwanTiger]

Apply to the Waitangi Tribunal to get this thread deleted, if you must.
You answered your own question with this comment. :yes:

[Hans]

You're not capable of actually arguing a point.

Prove me wrong, please.

[Mr Merde]

The court heard the case brought against the particular offender, who pleaded guilty, and setenced him to 9 months imprisonment, likely to be reduced to home detention.

The Rev. offered an explanation, not an excuse, as to why the offender commited the crimes. Regardless of what was said after or before hand, the offender plead guilty!

No special treatment was given, he never asked for any (according to the news articles) and justice was served.

This is a racist thread.

I have demonstrated why: You have all failed to be objective about the topic, instead it has become another Maori bashing thread.

So how much did the Rev's evidence affect the sentence?

Without it would this person be looking at home detention?

How has this turned into a bashing thread?

Why, when a view is given and it fails to conform to what other persons deem correct does it degenerate into racism?

Where have you demonstrated anything apart from the belief in your own self importance?

Where have you entered honestly into a reasoned debate and not resorted to rhetoric and "name calling.?

[SwanTiger]

You're not capable of actually arguing a point.

Prove me wrong, please.
I have a gut feeling that discussing anything with you will prove fruitless.

I'm interested in talking with intelligent and enthusiastic people who have the desire to find the truth, not validate ones own conceived truths.

Go and troll in Pointless Drivel, you may find what you're looking for there.

[Hans]

I have a gut feeling that discussing anything with you will prove fruitless.

I'm interested in talking with intelligent and enthusiastic people who have the desire to find the truth, not validate ones own conceived truths.

Go and troll in Pointless Drivel, you may find what you're looking for there.

No, mate, you're interested in talking with people who have the desire to find your truth and thereby prove that they are intelligent and enthusiastic brown nosers.
Have fun. I too am done trying to actually have a debate with you.

[Mr Merde]

I have a gut feeling that discussing anything with you will prove fruitless.

I'm interested in talking with intelligent and enthusiastic people who have the desire to find the truth, not validate ones own conceived truths.

Go and troll in Pointless Drivel, you may find what you're looking for there.

But only if the discussion entails mutual back slapping and sychophantic behaviour.

How on earth can one one engage in reasonable debate when as soon as you contradict or disagree with your views you resort to childlike behaviour.

"I dont like what you are saying, so go away, because what I am saying is right"

[_intense_]

yeah, that was a beautiful valley! what did ever happen to ECNZ?

[Hans]

BTW take note everyone, the tactic you have just seen probably comes from a government manual titled "Browbeating people with uncomfortable opinions into submission". Is white is bad. Am bad. Am sorry.

But now to the one question that really bothers me:

IS THE ONE-EYED TANIWHA REALLY GOING TO COME AND EAT ME NOW?

[SwanTiger]

So how much did the Rev's evidence affect the sentence?
I do not know how much of an effect the Rev.'s comments may or may not of had.

Ask the Judge.


Without it would this person be looking at home detention?
In my opinion, yes.

I have a background in this area (from an enforcement perspective) and most offenders, if the home environment is suitable, will be granted home detention.


How has this turned into a bashing thread?
Hans has already asked this question and provided an answer.


Why, when a view is given and it fails to conform to what other persons deem correct does it degenerate into racism?
An opinion is one thing, making comments (such as Hans regarding the Waitangi Tribunal deleting this thread) is completely different and a comment can be defined as a racist one more easily than a 'racist opinion' can be defined for the reasons you've outlined.


Where have you demonstrated anything apart from the belief in your own self importance?

Where have you entered honestly into a reasoned debate and not resorted to rhetoric and "name calling.?
Okay, so you're more interested in making this a personal "my opinions valid, your opinion is not" discussion.

I'm done with this thread, enjoy the new day.

[Hans]

Experience in enforcement? Sounds more like working for "Corrections"....

[Mr Merde]

.........


Okay, so you're more interested in making this a personal "my opinions valid, your opinion is not" discussion.

I'm done with this thread, enjoy the new day.

I was hoping to stimulate sensible and reasonable debate where a number of persons having diferent views could openly discuss them without being brow beaten or ridiculed.

I obviously struck a chord by suggesting that your attempts at such were childlike. I appologise for suggesting that you were incapable of actually debating a point rather than pontificating a view.

How can we, in this country, every achieve some sort of mutual respect and understanding when faced with reactionary and knee jerk relatiation. As a child I was demanding and domineering, as an adult I learnt to listen to the views of others and try to understand them. This came about though social intercourse and dialogue not but being spoonfed severly outdated and biased rhetoric, and expected to accept such as derigour.

I am perfectly willing to discuss the thread and its ramifications but find it impossible to do so when faced by reactions as quoted.

[Bren_chch]

maori sickness!!!!! lmfao!

[avgas]

yeah, that was a beautiful valley! what did ever happen to ECNZ?
Got broke up to the lovely collection of powerco's we have 2day.

[avgas]

I think we should let him off, he has maori sickness and this country is too gutless to prove him wrong.
Infact if we have to charge him, give him parole - Whats the worst he could do - kill a couple of mountainbikers?

[The_Dover]

I think I've found a cure....

<img src="http://www.quizzical.com.au/userimages/user2051_1159022292.jpg">


you can thank me with beer.

[avgas]

I think I've found a cure....

<img src="http://www.quizzical.com.au/userimages/user2051_1159022292.jpg">


you can thank me with beer.

Ok, but i better hold it for you - you look a little tied up at the moment

[Finn]

I have a background in this area (from an enforcement perspective) and most offenders, if the home environment is suitable, will be granted home detention.

Sky and a PlayStation?

[Damon]

:killingme i wonder, just for a second, if i belive in the maori religion can i get maori sickness if i'm white? or do i need to have brown skin too? would that make the sickness racist or the religion?

[Deano]

"Racism is a belief system or doctrine which postulates a hierarchy among various "human races" or ethnic groups. It may be based on a conception assuming inherent biological differences between different ethnic groups, which would be purported to determine cultural or individual behaviour."

And again, how is this thread racist?

Apply to the Waitangi Tribunal to get this thread deleted, if you must.

It would be racist if people are blaming 'Maori' in general, for the actions of one particular Maori perhaps ?

My 2 cents.

[petermonkeyguru]

I had the Maori sickness once I awoke in the morning could'nt be fucked going to work signed up for the dole that afternoon then spent two months doing burg's,smoking pot drinking every night and beating the missus and kids when they asked me for money to buy groceries!!!!!!
And my taiaha's only ten inches long!!!!!

This might be what a lot of NZrs think they see is the norm, or think they know - but it's deffinately racist, isn't it?

[petermonkeyguru]

So where's the racism on this thread? Racism, my friend, is a belief that a certain race is inferior to another race. End of story.
Really we’re talking about ethnocentrism; People are comfortable with and prefer people who are like themselves, who share similar values and behaviors. When people look at the world from the perspective of one's own culture and interpret all behaviour from that perspective only.
Don Brash often stated he isn’t racist because he treats everyone in an equal way – just as long as it’s his white middle class colonialist way.
It's that sentiment that is coming thru loud an clear in the comments following the original post.
I found the original post funny. I’m not suggesting that Mate Maori is any defence at all – but read the article – nor was the Rev. Yes the artical was funny and no I don't beleve in their ideas.


And which is the Jewish god with a Greek name, pray tell
FYI
Jesus (Isus) - a greek word for son of Ra or son of Zeuz
God - a derivative of Gad, a druid deity

[Flatcap]

It's only racism if a honkie says it

[Hans]

Point taken with the Greek origin of Jesus. But I've never subscribed to that drivel either.

[Hans]

And BTW, whoever gave me one measly red rep with the words:

"You are a racist".

And I suspect it was you, Monkey Guru, because you're the only one here with that little rep yourself.
Is white Is bad. Am white am sorry.

YOU'RE A FEEBLE BASTARD
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU MEASLY CUNT!!!
AND HOPE YOU NEVER MEET ME IN PERSON.

Infract me someone if you feel like it. The man's an idiot.

[Guitana]

And BTW, whoever gave me one measly red rep with the words:

"You are a racist".

And I suspect it was you, Monkey Guru, because you're the only one here with that little rep yourself.
Is white Is bad. Am white am sorry.

YOU'RE A FEEBLE BASTARD
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU MEASLY CUNT!!!
AND HOPE YOU NEVER MEET ME IN PERSON.

Infract me someone if you feel like it. The man's an idiot.

Don't take it personal Hans!! I got red repped a few weeks ago by three people that disagreed with my comments!!!
Only one of them had the chestnuts to sign the rep and I admire her for it!!!!
Heres something to cheer you up!!!!

[Guitana]

This might be what a lot of NZrs think they see is the norm, or think they know - but it's deffinately racist, isn't it?

No Pita Monkey Huhu it's taking the piss out of my heritage Lighten up Pal!!!

[Hans]

You're right, Guitana. I don't give a crap if someone calls me racist. What insults me is that the don't sign their name to it. Besides "racist" really is just a meaningless expression these idiots use to describe someone who doesn't agree with their world-view. I prefer to use the world "C*nt".

Besides, ask any of the Maori members of this wonderful institution, if I've ever treated them any differently.

[Guitana]

Besides, ask any of Maori members of this wonderful institution, if I've ever treated them any differently.[/QUOTE]

Parekura called he wants his cheeseburger back!!!!!!!:shit:

[Hans]

Parekura don't need anymore burgers :nono:

[bull]

Cant we all just get along...........................

[Hans]

Obviously not. Not everyone can always get along.

Fact of life.

[Guitana]

Cant we all just get along...........................

Good question Bull nice to make your aquiantance!!!! Did you get your Hyosung through TSS they're not a bad little machine!!!

Some people just fly into a computer generated internet rage and the red rep starts flying the insults get nastier until they finally realise no one really gives a fuck!!! If the weathers shit outside you can always go fishing on KB!!!

[BUNGY]

Guys I think your being a bit hard on him.

After all how was he supposed to know he didn't have the years of experiece needed to handle the vast power contained within the (long club)

Its a mistake any of us could have made.

[Hans]

If the weathers shit outside you can always go fishing on KB!!!

ROFLLLLLLLL!

[jtzzr]

I reckon the "reason "/ "excuse"(Maori Sickness) is a load of bollocks ,whether he was brown, white , lime green or turquoise , he committed a crime , the focker should pay for that , as for this thread being " Rascist" , I think it`s a pity .People have a right to their opinion , it may not appreciated nor understood ,or the right place to express it, but it`s the individuals opinion .I am yet to meet a rascist person on this site , and if I ever do who cares , I wouldn`t lose any sleep , but despite colour , don`t we all believe in 1 thing "MOTORCYCLES" maybe we could replace " Rascism" with " Interracicial Banter".

[Guitana]

Guys I think your being a bit hard on him.

After all how was he supposed to know he didn't have the years of experiece needed to handle the vast power contained within the (long club)

Its a mistake any of us could have made.

Wer'e not being nasty at all Bungy Mungy Fungy Lungy don't take it so serious!! As for the long club are you refering to my ten inche Patu???????:shit:

[bull]

don`t we all believe in 1 thing "MOTORCYCLES"
So now we can all be predjudice against those with cars..... p/t

Im a Kiwi (both pakeha and Maori) and i had no idea what maori mate was all about, so instead of going off and getting annoyed by everyone elses thoughts on the subject i tohught id enquire more about it. As far as i can understand maori mate is comparable to being infected by a poltergeist, both are of the supernatural realm and seem to be pretty much bullshit unless you have witnessed first hand. (i have witnessed neither first hand)

So... charge the fulla with the crime as he did commit it, then if he can be healed by kaumatua etc, then he should be allowed to contest the charges - good luck on that tho when your defence is supernatural reasons, would be better to plead insanity.

And for the chap whom discharged his firearm in defence - charge him also as he committed a crime.

And then hang the media who seem to make a mountain out of a mole hill at every chance they get.

PS Yes Guitana, got the bike from Fergus at TSS

[Guitana]

So now we can all be predjudice against those with cars..... p/t

Im a Kiwi (both pakeha and Maori) and i had no idea what maori mate was all about, so instead of going off and getting annoyed by everyone elses thoughts on the subject i tohught id enquire more about it. As far as i can understand maori mate is comparable to being infected by a poltergeist, both are of the supernatural realm and seem to be pretty much bullshit unless you have witnessed first hand. (i have witnessed neither first hand)

So... charge the fulla with the crime as he did commit it, then if he can be healed by kaumatua etc, then he should be allowed to contest the charges - good luck on that tho when your defence is supernatural reasons, would be better to plead insanity.

And for the chap whom discharged his firearm in defence - charge him also as he committed a crime.

And then hang the media who seem to make a mountain out of a mole hill at every chance they get.

PS Yes Guitana, got the bike from Fergus at TSS

Well said Bull it can be hard for people to understand the supernatural side of the Maori culture!! just cos you havent been exposed to it dosent mean it's not real if people beleive in something strongly enough it becomes reality!

[Quartermile]

Guys I think your being a bit hard on him.

After all how was he supposed to know he didn't have the years of experiece needed to handle the vast power contained within the (long club)

Its a mistake any of us could have made.


Wer'e not being nasty at all Bungy Mungy Fungy Lungy don't take it so serious!! As for the long club are you refering to my ten inche Patu???????:shit:

I think Bungy had his sarcasm on........
Did I just bite??

[Quartermile]

So now we can all be predjudice against those with cars..... p/t

Im a Kiwi (both pakeha and Maori) and i had no idea what maori mate was all about, so instead of going off and getting annoyed by everyone elses thoughts on the subject i tohught id enquire more about it. As far as i can understand maori mate is comparable to being infected by a poltergeist, both are of the supernatural realm and seem to be pretty much bullshit unless you have witnessed first hand. (i have witnessed neither first hand)

So... charge the fulla with the crime as he did commit it, then if he can be healed by kaumatua etc, then he should be allowed to contest the charges - good luck on that tho when your defence is supernatural reasons, would be better to plead insanity.

And for the chap whom discharged his firearm in defence - charge him also as he committed a crime.

And then hang the media who seem to make a mountain out of a mole hill at every chance they get.

PS Yes Guitana, got the bike from Fergus at TSS


You pretty much are......

[Dave Lobster]

just cos you havent been exposed to it doesn't mean it's not real. If people believe in something strongly enough it becomes reality!

Sarcasm???

[Quartermile]

Guitana doesn't seem to understand the concept

[petermonkeyguru]

And BTW, whoever gave me one measly red rep with the words:
"You are a racist".
And I suspect it was you, Monkey Guru, because you're the only one here with that little rep yourself.
Is white Is bad. Am white am sorry.

So am I - don't see what thats got to do with it?
If you have a look at my comments you'll see I haven't accused anyone or any posting as being racist - I asked if one comment was. I posed it as a question. I'm not saying this thread is racist at all - I thought it was an exchange of opinion.


YOU'RE A FEEBLE BASTARD
NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU MEASLY CUNT!!!
AND HOPE YOU NEVER MEET ME IN PERSON.
Infract me someone if you feel like it. The man's an idiot.

I don't mind meeting you, any time - am I supose to be in fear of you now.
I can refer you to some anger management courses if your interested.
I can see now that I really under reacted when someone gave me some bad rep. :zzzz:

[Hans]

Aaah so it was you.

Provocation. One of the most effective intelligence gathering tools ever.

Please sign your red reps in the future.
Thank you.

[petermonkeyguru]

Aaah so it was you.

Provocation. One of the most effective intelligence gathering tools ever.

Please sign your red reps in the future.
Thank you.

Where did you get that idea from?

[Hans]

And wasn't it?

[bull]

PM each other for you are now going off topic and into your own litle red rep discussion :)

[Guitana]

I think Bungy had his sarcasm on........
Did I just bite??

Like a great white shark!!!!

[Guitana]

Sarcasm???

Worked for the christian religion didnt it???????

[inlinefour]

Where did you get that idea from?

From the fact that senior members can see who has repped us. Like I said crybaby, get a grip lad. I thought you could be a tad more original than just copying what I did. However you do ride a Suzuki, so I expect nothing less...
:baby:

[Dave Lobster]

Worked for the christian religion didnt it???????

Only on goat herders. And other simple minded types.

[Guitana]

Only on goat herders. And other simple minded types.

Must be a hell of alot of goat herders and simple types around!!!!!:eek: :devil2:

[Teflon]

The only cure for this sickness is a bullet.

[petermonkeyguru]

From the fact that senior members can see who has repped us. Like I said crybaby, get a grip lad. I thought you could be a tad more original than just copying what I did. However you do ride a Suzuki, so I expect nothing less...
:baby:

So you’re a senior member of kiwibiker? Somehow privileged to information not available to others? That’s interesting.
You just can't help but follow me around having a little bitch about me. It doesn't matter about the fact that you gave me bad rep and didn’t sign it either. :whocares:
How about some actual input into the thread - the topic - got an opinion to express about Maori sickness – racism perhaps?

[inlinefour]

So you’re a senior member of kiwibiker? Somehow privileged to information not available to others? That’s interesting.
You just can't help but follow me around having a little bitch about me. It doesn't matter about the fact that you gave me bad rep and didn’t sign it either. :whocares:
How about some actual input into the thread - the topic - got an opinion to express about Maori sickness – racism perhaps?

You assume far too much. I neither know you nor give a flying fornication about you. Get a grip lad...

[avgas]

Bloody hell - WTF is wrong now!
Lets stop the bikkering and get back to the score aye!

On the Maori sickness thing - I think it may just be the jurno being a cock. After reading into the story more, its more of a tapu thing.
While i don't think he should get off - I hope it educates young Maori that tapu is scared an should not be messed with.

[Hans]

Bloody hell - WTF is wrong now!
Lets stop the bikkering and get back to the score aye!

On the Maori sickness thing - I think it may just be the jurno being a cock. After reading into the story more, its more of a tapu thing.
While i don't think he should get off - I hope it educates young Maori that tapu is scared an should not be messed with.

Tapu is indeed scared :shit: and should be left alone until it recovers from this state of shock. :Punk:

[avgas]

Tapu is indeed scared :shit: and should be left alone until it recovers from this state of shock. :Punk:
I just dont want the little buggers touching me bike :)

[KLOWN]

I just dont want the little buggers touching me bike :)

I wonder if that would work...
stick a sign on your bike saying tapu so maoris won't nick it. and for all the people saying i'm racist cause tapu only means something to maoris and not white people, hopefully the white people will think its owned by a big maori fella and won't steal it.

edited: to make more sense

[Guitana]

I wonder if that would work...
stick a sign on your bike saying tapu so it won't get nicked. and for all the people saying i'm racist cause tapu only means something to maoris and not white people, hopefully the white people will think its owned by a big maori fella and won't steal it.

Considering most white people dont steal that idea might be a little flawed!!!!!

[avgas]

Unfortunately most of these miscreants cant spell.
Tapu could be miss read as Tapa. Then the fuckers would try n wear it.

[BAD DAD]

A male occupant fired a shotgun down the hallway. No one was hit. The man who allegedly fired the gun is awaiting trial.

anyone keen on raising money to get this geyser some target practice? I wonder if he will qualify for legal aid ?

[Quartermile]

Yea probably a warning shot?, should always fire the 'warning' shot into the knee caps then fire one in the roof:yes:

[Macktheknife]

From the fact that senior members can see who has repped us. Like I said crybaby, get a grip lad. I thought you could be a tad more original than just copying what I did. However you do ride a Suzuki, so I expect nothing less...
:baby:

Oi.. that's going a bit far John.

[Quartermile]

Oi.. that's going a bit far John.
Maybe he had the Suzuki sickness, when realiseing the extreme speed and power you posses overcomes you:yes:

[Macktheknife]

A male occupant fired a shotgun down the hallway. No one was hit. The man who allegedly fired the gun is awaiting trial.

anyone keen on raising money to get this geyser some target practice? I wonder if he will qualify for legal aid ?

Don't be silly, he had a go and screwed it up... much like the guys he was aiming at. (p/t)
Not a good decision on his part.
But the point is, mate maori is a belief, not a proven fact, to propose it as a defence is about as viable as using any other superstition to defend criminal activity. In other words, bloody stupid.
As for the Taiaha issue, last time I checked it was classed as a weapon, charge the bastard accordingly.
btw this being called a racist thread is a bit off IMHO, the thread cannot be anything, the views expressed by individuals can be many things, but mostly what I see is people pissed off with some ignorant bastard trying to defend bad decisions by pulling a culturally specific card in the hope of it doing him some good. Which is just another way of him trying to get out of paying for his crimes, nothing new there, but using his culture to hide behind is cowardly and destined to fail.

[inlinefour]

Oi.. that's going a bit far John.

Yea I threw out the baited line, quite surprising at times who takes it... :killingme


Maybe he had the Suzuki sickness, when realiseing the extreme speed and power you posses overcomes you:yes: :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme

I take it that you do not watch the moto gp or WSB/SS racing?