AWNMR - Wednesday Night Mentor Ride (March)

[Disco Dan]

You can register your attendance for the DAY RIDE on wednesday HERE (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1255&day=2007-4-25&).


The evening AWNMR Practice is going to incorporate some NEW activities !

You guys thought riding along a flattened fire hose was interesting! ...there is going to be a flipping motorcycle adventure playground set up! All sorts of diferent and interesting activities for us all!

Lots to get through this week, so please arrive as early as you can to Shell so we can get started ASAP.

[Disco Dan]

Mind If I tag along ??
Not sure where shell westgate is but I guees its west auckland somewhere by a gate I suppose ?

Sure, more the merrier! Would be good to meet you too!

Westgate is at the end of the NorthWestern Motorway, when you get to the end you reach a t-junction - turn left and you will see the Shell Petrol station after the set of lights.

[Morcs]

So whats the anticipated time frame for all of this?

12:00 meet westgate
12:45 arrive panmure
13:00 leave panmure after breifing

And even with regular stops should only take 3 hours to do the loop, so 4 o'clock...

Basically is it going to roll straight into the evening ride?

[Toaster]

Try telepathy ;)


Hey, get outta my head!!

[Ixion]

God willing , I shall be there , with bells on.

Please remember , those on big bikes, this is a NOVICES ride.



This ride is open to ALL 250cc riders of any skill level - however please note this is going to be a primarily 'beginners' ride and will be at a slow pace.

All riders: There will be NO overtaking on the left. NO dangerous riding behaviour. Those that cannot behave will be told to leave

[Disco Dan]

Basically is it going to roll straight into the evening ride?

YES. I have planned so that there will be time for everyone to grab some food/drink at westgate. Have a rest etc before the evening practice session.



God willing , I shall be there , with bells on.

Please remember , those on big bikes, this is a NOVICES ride.

Thank you Ixion, wise words. I will be tailend to avoid temptation on any straights :innocent:

Primarily a 250cc beginners ride - the only people that should be on larger bikes should be mentors. (unless you have pm'd me that you are a beginner on a larger bike)

[WickedOne]

Sure, more the merrier! Would be good to meet you too!

Westgate is at the end of the NorthWestern Motorway, when you get to the end you reach a t-junction - turn left and you will see the Shell Petrol station after the set of lights.

Now I have seen it all!!! Directions from Disco Dan!!!! :gob:

[Jacko2]

Hey Dan is there time for a swim at Miranda?

[Fub@r]

So whats the anticipated time frame for all of this?

12:00 meet westgate
12:45 arrive panmure
13:00 leave panmure after breifing

And even with regular stops should only take 3 hours to do the loop, so 4 o'clock...

Basically is it going to roll straight into the evening ride?

I'll get to Westgate at around 11.40.......have time for a chin wag with anyone else thats eager :)

[Kittyhawk]

Hey, get outta my head!!

It's not me in your head..its the voices haha!


Was an eventful night last night eh? not sure if you remember much.... lots of knee sliding, a good bin save, a good bin, a collision with a traffic cone, a lost cellphone, and some alchohol... oh and me showing you how to do a burnout on your bike hehe :D

Nope I dont remember alot. Yea hitting the road cone was a better call than hitting the rider in front of me sliding down the road..Argh this is the 2nd time that's happend in front of me now.

The cell phone....wont talk about that lol

It was a good night, should do it again for sure...just without the wine.

[Disco Dan]

It was a good night, should do it again for sure...just without the wine.

I dont want to know! :innocent: :shutup: Especially if the wine happend before the riding... :nono:

Anyone heard from Warlock recently? He has dropped off the face of the earth! Thought he may be interested...

[WarlockNZ]

I dont want to know! :innocent: :shutup: Especially if the wine happend before the riding... :nono:

Anyone heard from Warlock recently? He has dropped off the face of the earth! Thought he may be interested...

I'm interested :P .. as long as i dont hav eto see you naked ... been working some knarly shifts over the last week ... i'll try and be at the ride.

[Disco Dan]

I'm interested :P .. as long as i dont hav eto see you naked ... been working some knarly shifts over the last week ... i'll try and be at the ride.

Holy smoke batman! That was quick!

Cool as, see you there!

[Busy]

Just to confirm, is meet up time at Westgate 12 or depart time at 12 ?

the posts just say "Meeting at westgate 12PM"

[Chisanga]

I'm hoping to come on this ride. I'll meet at the Panmure Mobil as I can't be arsed riding all the way out West and back again (unless I decide I can be arsed :))

Haven't been out to Kaiaua for almost a week so i'm starting to miss it.... Hope to see you all there anyhow .... cheers.

Edit: Crap the cricket is on tonight.... might just meet you at Panmure then :)

[Disco Dan]

Just to confirm, is meet up time at Westgate 12 or depart time at 12 ?

the posts just say "Meeting at westgate 12PM"

Meeting at 12pm departing 12:30pm to Panmure for briefing.

..just finished my night shift so going to try and get a couple of hours sleep... may stock up on energy drinks today I think!

[Quasievil]

Primarily a 250cc beginners ride - the only people that should be on larger bikes should be mentors. (unless you have pm'd me that you are a beginner on a larger bike)

you mean only mentors should be on the larger bikes ?
How many KB mentors are coming?
Being Mentor admin of KB Im keeping an eye on the mentors as well to see if they are up to it.
KB Mentors listed here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/memberlist.php?usergroupid=19

have a good day people, see you later on

[Chisanga]

Meeting at 12pm departing 12:30pm to Panmure for briefing.

..just finished my night shift so going to try and get a couple of hours sleep... may stock up on energy drinks today I think!

So i'm assuming about 12.45-1pm for those going straight to Panmure?

Are you going through Howick, Clevedon, Kawakawa Bay to get to Kaiaua?

[Quasievil]

Damn somethings come up, cant make it , might see yall later on in the day

[Toaster]

It's not me in your head..its the voices haha!

And the voices keeps telling me to go riding and stop doing the housework.:gob:

[Fub@r]

Cheers for organising the ride guys..........had a blast. The fish and chips at Kaiaua makes it all the more tasty

[Chisanga]

Thanks guys for a good ride and to Deathstar for demonstrating his "special" motard cornering skills on Twilight Rd.

Didn't realise you guys were heading off to Miranda so I burned off up the other road to get home. Hope you all enjoyed your day :)

[Black Bandit]

Cheers for organising the ride guys..........had a blast. The fish and chips at Kaiaua makes it all the more tasty

I'll second that. Cheers for organising a good day out guys and girls.
Special mention to Kittyhawk and Disco Dan for riding point and TEC.:clap:

Crashe you were right - about bike fitness that is - and other things too, I'm sure. I feel absolutely nackered.:yes:

Quasi that bike of yours is quite an intimidating presence in one's rear view mirrors, and the sound of her ... yum.

[The Stranger]

I enjoyed the ride, hope some people got something out of it. To the guy on the CBR250, nice bike, but I really hope you know what to expect if you go for a slide at 50k wearing light jeans, a sweat shirt, sneakers and no gloves. You can look forward to the doctors removing bits of clothing from the friction burns and months of recovery, infection and skin grafts etc. Good luck.

Thank you to MacTheKnife for last night. a lot of thought went into that. Top stuff, I found it quite a challenge, but enjoyed it, even if some thought it was a bit tough.

[Kittyhawk]

Was a good day yesterday. Perfect riding weather. The best thing of all no one binned!!

Thanks to everyone who came along!!!:Punk:

Also special thanks to The Stranger and Macktheknife for the exercises last night. Threw me a challenge with the road cones which I really enjoyed.

[Disco Dan]

Well what a day! After finishing work at 7am, catching a few hours sleep... slept through my alarm to wake up an hour before the ride started! A quick dash around the house to get everything ready and arrived at westgate. Those that saw me saw how tired I was! a quick sandwich and an energy drink later and everyone was all ready to gear up and go.

I led the group along the mway, off at Panmure. So far so good. Approached roudabout with the group of bikes behind me when i realised the meeting place was left at not right at the roundabout... a few confused cars and bike sprawling across all lanes of the four lane roundabout and we all got there safely!

Kittyhawk gave everyone an excellent briefing, ensuring everyone knew the pointer system, the route we were taking and other mentors chipped in with some very helpful advice on group riding. The rides safety rules were reminded to everyone and we geared up.

As tail end charlie for this ride I could see the entire group and was very pleased with how everyone stayed together through the suburbs. Out onto the open road and the real riding began! Some wonderful roads, great scenery and Kittyhawk kept a good pace for everyone. The pointer system was working well and the mentors kept a close watchful eye on everyone. There was only one turn where the pointer left too early and I had to direct a couple of bikes around the last turn before our first stop. A quick smoke stop and a chance for feedback on the pace etc.

We all continued and the roads started getting even more exciting, some tight corners and lots of long sweepers kept everyone concentrating hard. Everyone seemed to be fairly close together and I could smell the unmistakable odour of 2 stroke - thats good I thought, as that means no one is having dificulty with the pace and lagging behind. We continued on, saw a couple of other bikers make their way through our group. Suddenly a very large and intimidating black ZX14 appeared behind me... ehh-up.. better get a wriggle on... I had no chance of making any space between us and let the rider pass at the next straight... as the black blurr past me a cought a glimpse of the plate... it was Quasi ! ...then he was gone. Making his way through the pack. We made another stop by the beach, and was a apportunity to see the ZX14 without risk of neck injury! He even sold some gloves from his back pack! Good on you!

We all arrived at our major stop (not sure where we were after we left the roundabout!) for some fish and chips and a good chin-wag. I casually mentioned I was getting low on petrol and had aprox 20-25 miles before I hit reserve... the gas station had run out next door. We were what seemed like in the middle of no-where and thoughts of me pushing my 210kg bike was not a pleasant one. We geared up, after splitting the groups up and sending them off at ten minute intervals with their mentors. I left with the last group and we went through some very nice roads, very open and we could see the road for at least a mile ahead!

We arrived at our last stop by a castle and I was able to bring the needle on my petrol guage off the red line! A toilet stop and a quick chin-wag and we departed, heading for the motorway back to westgate. People started to trickle into westgate, and I found i could no longer stand still... the large amount of energy drinks I had consumed and my immense fatigue was taking it's toll!

What a great afternoon, lots was learnt and confidence was increased all round. With only one rider spoiling it for the rest of the group.

....now, better have something to eat! Carpark practice soon!

[Disco Dan]

Everyone arrived at westgate and introduced everyone, off we went to our practice area in Albany.

"oh my" as we pulled in and saw what was in store for us!

A see-saw, ladders, fire hose and a rather large row of cones! Wow!

Mack gave everyone a great briefing on the evenings events and The Stranger gave us a demonstration for each task.

Afterwards we headed down to the pub, for a good chin-wag and a rather disturbing array of 'goat' and 'camel' jokes...

I arrived home to find I had locked my cat inside... although I had also left the electric blanket on high... so at least she was happy!

A big thank you to all who came, all that helped out and for all your advice throughout the day/evening!

[Disco Dan]

On a sader note:

I wish to inform everyone that Deathstar has now been banned from attending future AWNMR sessions and related events.

It was not a desicion that I made lightly, but one that I put much thought into and discussed with those concerned.

His riding on the day ride was in mine and others view dangerous. Despite being told on several occasions throughout the day his behaviour continued to put others at risk. This continued to the point where he had to be removed from the group on the last leg and actually escorted by a mentor.

I want to assure everyone that attends the AWNMR that this sort of behaviour and dangerous riding will not be tolerated. I would not like this to be discussed on this forum, because as far as I am concerned this is the end of the matter.

I hope now, those people that were put at risk and those people that complained to me will not be put off attending future sessions and events.

Disco Dan.

[Quasievil]

Excellent stuff guys n Gals, good opportunity to get some newbies on a road ride to learn from other people.
If I can be so bold as to point out a couple of things.
I think whilst valueable information was shared I think the riding group was set up wrong.
For a newbie learning ride you need to set say ideally one mentor with one rider, not always possible ,so stretch it to say three to one mentor, they need to leave in their small groups 5-10 mins apart from the next group.
As it was everyone was riding very slowly in one big long line, following the line of the other rider in front and concentrating to much on the other bikes around him as opposed to a focused and educating riding session, also when there where stops it was potentially very dangerous given other traffic tyring to get past 15-20 bikes all pulling over on a small spot all at once, with smaller groups you wont have this situation.
Also I think for a newbie ride its good to send a few minutes checking the bikes over and discussing tyre pressures etc, offering help and advise.

For the guy wearing no gear mmmmmm I would have told him to go home personally.

Thats it really, take it as constructive critisism and keep doing these rides as its a awesome thing to do for newbies , BIG UPS !!!

[Disco Dan]

Excellent stuff guys n Gals, good opportunity to get some newbies on a road ride to learn from other people.

Thank you for your feedback Quasi, much appreciated. Taken on board and I will incorporate your advice into future sessions and events.

Disco.

[Hidalgo]

thumbs up for everyone, it was really a great expereince and confidence booster. Special thanks to all mentors for passing words of wisdom on safe and great riding. mostly due to tight schedule i am not able to make up everytime, but will keep on trying to come and learn from all seniors out there.
Keep up the good work. :yes:

[Karma]

On a sader note:

I wish to inform everyone that Deathstar has now been banned from attending future AWNMR sessions and related events.


I would not like this to be discussed on this forum, because as far as I am concerned this is the end of the matter.



Funny, looks to me like you've just started a public discussion to me.

[Black Bandit]

Rats! Sounds like I missed out on a great night of slow, skilled riding :bye: . Had to get home though - tinted visor and all :sunny:. Ended up riding with the visor up eventually as the sun disappeared praying for all kamikaze bugs to avoid my eyes.:dodge:

Ladders, see-saws? :shit: You folks gearing up for a Trials event? These AWNMRs sound intriguing - must make a point to attend another in the near future.:woohoo:

I think Quasi has some great points on the group riding thing - there were stretches of the ride that I felt "held up" and clostraphobic. But you guys made a great effort. :cool:

[Kittyhawk]

:yes: Yup and thanks to everyones feed back we know what to work on and improve for the next upcoming ride!!!

Being the first ride for this particular group there are things which need improving on so the next one runs more effectively.. :scooter:

[Kittyhawk]

If anyone is interested in coming along, Im doing the Kaiaua route again on Saturday....why? coz I love open road riding hehehe.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1029751#post1029751

[toymachine]

Cheers for organising that, more stops then i'd like but understandable give the nature of the ride.

Hope that fella on the CBR gets some gear, and that chick on the Magna some boots :)

[Disco Dan]

Excellent feedback and suggestions coming through! Awsome!

[Toaster]

Was a good day yesterday. Perfect riding weather. The best thing of all no one binned!!

Thanks to everyone who came along!!!:Punk:

Also special thanks to The Stranger and Macktheknife for the exercises last night. Threw me a challenge with the road cones which I really enjoyed.

I need a good spanking for not turning up and doing endless slog around my property... how boring (and all sweaty) was I??!!

[Kittyhawk]

I need a good spanking for not turning up and doing endless slog around my property... how boring (and all sweaty) was I??!!

Now now my little sweetheart, Im goin to look for my spanking whip......and teach you how to ride :shutup:

[Big Dog]

you mean only mentors should be on the larger bikes ?
How many KB mentors are coming?
Being Mentor admin of KB Im keeping an eye on the mentors as well to see if they are up to it.
KB Mentors listed here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/memberlist.php?usergroupid=19

have a good day people, see you later on


Not only am I not a mentor I do not have sufficient permisions to see who is.:dodge: See Dan told you I was not a mentor but a newby.

[Ixion]

I am not a mentor either. I have never learned to ride at all well. And I am far too cognisant of my own failings to venture to pass them on to a learner.

[Big Dog]

I am not a mentor either. I have never learned to ride at all well. And I am far too cognisant of my own failings to venture to pass them on to a learner.

So your application was declined too? Well don't feel so bad then.

On a more serious note.

My riding has improved a great deal since I stopped thinking I was a good rider.
Amazing what you learn when you are honest with yourself.

[Disco Dan]

Alrighty folks,

Back to normal this wednesday - 2nd May

Meet at westgate 6:30pm. Depart Westgate at 7pm, directed to the practice area (aka empty carpark)in Albany.

Going back to basics this week, with braking drills and figure 8's being the focus.

There will be more challanging activities available to those that already have these 100%.

[Disco Dan]

NEW THREAD IS LOCATED HERE (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1034661#post1034661)

[Cr1MiNaL]

wow this sounds like fuuuuun ! I hav heaps to still learn though i donnt consider myself a nubie havin riden for 4 yrs but theres still so much i dont know ! I like..

[woza]

hey would definately be keen to have a go at this... i have just got into riding a bike myself and would be godo to get some practice. Will probably wait till bike has clocked up a few more km but will be keen for it later on.

[Big Dog]

hey would definately be keen to have a go at this... i have just got into riding a bike myself and would be godo to get some practice. Will probably wait till bike has clocked up a few more km but will be keen for it later on.

You don't have to wait to be experienced before you start learning but the current thread is http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1034661#post1034661