I want... no, need a 600, like now

[Coyote]

First of all, I got my full on Thursday (yuss!)

So yesterday I went to test ride a bigger bike. Firstly, a Hyosung with Cycleworks pipe, loved it. Secondly an 03 ZX6R, and I'm still on a high after 24 hours

Now I really really want a 600, only I'm on a grand total of 0 dollars, and one RG is too roughed up to bother trading in and needs a fair bit of work to get it's warrant (ending this month) and the other is in parts (I have plans to restore it to sell but I'm at school and i work afterschool and weekends so what time I have at home I tend to use as recovery)

Is finance as big of a no-no as my parents and my non-biker/good at saving money friends believe it to be? I'm only 17 so I'm going to need to convince my parents to sign up for finance so I need to have some good strong points to say to them (I would ask to borrow money off them, but they're spending it all on my brother and his motocross racing). Also, know of any cheap 600s around? What's the best <2005 bike to go for?

Big ups to TSS once again, great bunch of dudes. But it's somewhat scary how effective their salesmenning worked

[R6_kid]

get a job, then talk to mr cowpoos/alltrax and get one for $125 a week.

[Kendog]

Ahh, the joy of the first ride on a big bike. I know that hooked feeling :yes:

A money making suggestion for you, spend the time you normally spend in the KB arcade working in a real job :lol:

[Nasty]

Finance is a big ... problem especially if you can't take it on your own e.g. the parental units need to be involved ... this means when you f-u they have to pay .. and well .. they get the final word then :)

[Grub]

If you're working after school and weekends then sounds like you're earning ... so saving what you earn is a start.

A couple of constructive thoughts on your dilemma. 600's are in demand so that means they hold their prices and that means ouch. I went looking hard on TradeMe and you don't seem to get much worth havng (ie needing lots of maitenance costs) below $3,000. Mine cost $3,200 and I couldn't be happier. I don't want a bigger bike, I can go plenty fast on this one {har har har}. So it's not a pretty bike (well it might be to some) but it's a serious road contender.

The next class to consider is the 400's. There's not many around, which is why I ended up with a 600. Those that I did see were a bit ratty but cheap. A couple of them frightened the shoit out of me they were so fast. So in terms of performance, they're a good step up from the 250's until you can afford something bigger.

Finance is a killer. You buy a $3,000 bike and it costs like $7,500 before you own it ... there's just got to be better ways.

[Coyote]

get a job, then talk to mr cowpoos/alltrax and get one for $125 a week.


Ahh, the joy of the first ride on a big bike. I know that hooked feeling :yes:

A money making suggestion for you, spend the time you normally spend in the KB arcade working in a real job :lol:

I'm at school and i work afterschool and weekends so what time I have at home I tend to use as recovery)
I've got 2 shit jobs already, and I don't want to quit school to work full time at a super market (like some people I know have to pay off their cars). I hardly spend much time at the arcade, i simply go onto one game, win it, and done

I'm not using my money on anything else. I haven't got a social life so there's no demanding girl or parties spent drinking, all my money is going towards keeping the RG in commuter spec so i can get to work and school. It's not like i even get much chance to enjoy riding the RG

At least if i got a 600 i'd enjoy something in my life

[Coyote]

get a job, then talk to mr cowpoos/alltrax and get one for $125 a week.
I don't need a new one, and I'm only earning 120 a week as it is

[R6_kid]

Then lose the emotional attachment and save yourself the heartache in the long run. Start saving and get something when its a viable option, things are going to be many times more expensive on a 600 than with a 150.

[elle-f]

Yep and if you have cash it's a lot easier to negotiate for a better price :) good luck

[Korea]

Hey dude,

We've all been there. Patience grasshopper. You've (hopefully) got a long riding career ahead of you - so plenty of time to make your way through the ranks to 600cc / 1000cc Nirvana.

Think of some money-spinning ideas like lawn-mowing, car washes, garage sales, whatever.

Failing that, you're young and fresh - consider man-whoring? :killingme:

[Wasp]

cough...

I have a spare 600 and no license :innocent:

edit: Dammit, you're younger than me ffs how come you get your license and i dont get mine :(
(on the flip side i can afford a bike ;))

[Batcerb]

Something else to remember about financing a bike, is that it will need to be insured.

[slopster]

Plenty of good 80's 750's for under $3000 if you don't mind getting a rough one.

[JimO]

i traded a good 92 750 kawasaki for way less than 3k

[NotaGoth]

Put you're head down and save save save......

Remember that you're wants are different from you're needs..... You WANT a 600..... At the moment... You have a bike.... So getting another one isn't exactly a need..... Its just another on going set of bills....

Don't go finance.... As someone pointed out you are so much better paying cash..... Easier to bargain..... And its one payment... Not a whole heap you have to worry bout all the time.....

Just get into the routine of saving.... Its hard but the satisfaction of knowing you saved hard to be able to own what you have lasts for a very long time... and believe me.... You take a lot more pride in what you own when you know for a fact how hard you have worked to get there....

Patience is the key...

[Unforgiven]

If you do go finance, go to a bank, not a finance company. You will pay half the intrest.
And if the bank says no then the finance companys will just screw you in the long run anyway, they love to loan you more than you can afford.

[Wenier]

Just get the cash first, remember if you get finance of any sort ya gonna pay probably another half of the bike in interest.

[justsomeguy]

hey Coyote,

If that was a blue 636 with all the fruit you rode at TSS - it is a 2004 bike.

Used to be my old bike.

Set up by Shaun and apart from the engine everything else that can be done to make it faster has been done.

But .... in my hands it's done about 3000kms between 12-15K rpm (track, Coro, Scenic Drive & Night rides) and 6,000kms open road riding.:dodge:

And he offered me 9K for it - which was a steal for what all he got - just something to keep in mind while negotiating, if you want to buy it.

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Don't have time to read everything - but see if the Bullshit -- I mean Cowpoos's deals work out - as they put you on some nice machinery.

However - make sure you don't end up getting something so pretty you're scared of riding it. An older gixxer or R6 would be an awesome big bike to learn on. - Or how bout a GSXR750 SRAD - brilliant bikes.

[Quartermile]

Something else to remember about financing a bike, is that it will need to be insured.

Yep a huge pain, especially when I eventually get a 600:)

[jim.cox]

First of all, I got my full on Thursday (yuss!)

So yesterday I went to test ride a bigger bike. Firstly, a Hyosung with Cycleworks pipe, loved it. Secondly an 03 ZX6R, and I'm still on a high after 24 hours

Now I really really want a 600,

Now go try a 675 - you know - the new pommy one - go on - I dare you :)

[Coyote]

Failing that, you're young and fresh - consider man-whoring? :killingme:
Did you watch that Deuce Bigalow movie? Yeah... that's the kinda market I'd be at

Something else to remember about financing a bike, is that it will need to be insured.
TSS mentioned that, saying it'd be another $800 a year. I understood that after my old CBR cost me $500 a year (And the RG only costs me $9 a month :p)

Plenty of good 80's 750's for under $3000 if you don't mind getting a rough one.
I've thought of that, cause those Gixxers are at the point where they're old enough to look kinda retro cool. Are they just as entertaining or would it be nothing like that ZX6R I rode?


Remember that you're wants are different from you're needs..... You WANT a 600..... At the moment... You have a bike.... So getting another one isn't exactly a need..... Its just another on going set of bills....

I might soon 'need' it because the RG might cost too much to really bother getting it back to warrant spec. Would I rather spend that on another much nicer bike or just keep the RG at passable spec and be worried every 6 months?

I've yet to take it to the warranter, it'll be good to see what really needs to be done

[Coyote]

hey Coyote,

If that was a blue 636 with all the fruit you rode at TSS - it is a 2004 bike.

Used to be my old bike.

Set up by Shaun and apart from the engine everything else that can be done to make it faster has been done.

But .... in my hands it's done about 3000kms between 12-15K rpm (track, Coro, Scenic Drive & Night rides) and 6,000kms open road riding.:dodge:

And he offered me 9K for it - which was a steal for what all he got - just something to keep in mind while negotiating, if you want to buy it.

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Don't have time to read everything - but see if the Bullshit -- I mean Cowpoos's deals work out - as they put you on some nice machinery.

However - make sure you don't end up getting something so pretty you're scared of riding it. An older gixxer or R6 would be an awesome big bike to learn on. - Or how bout a GSXR750 SRAD - brilliant bikes.
Yeah, I saw it was an '04 on the motorcycle trader site

Suspension was set up brilliantly (not that I've ridden many good bikes to compare it too). You could feel the suspension actually keeping the wheels on the road, unlike the RG where the front often goes airborn when you hit bumps on corners.

Don't think I'd be able to negotiate him down without cash, or without a good trade in bike.

I'm semi interested in insurance write offs (but only cosmetic damage) only to get back on the road might be costly. I'm still waiting on a mate to give me the number off a mate of his that owns an old R6. If it's a good deal I might be tempted into snapping that up, but otherwise I've cooled down and I'm willing to take some time to save up... untill I ride another one

Now go try a 675 - you know - the new pommy one - go on - I dare you :)
I don't want to dare ride new bikes and find out they're good. It'll only land me with a bigger debt to pay :p

[Coyote]

Mum says: Dad and her won't help me because I'm under 17 and I'll need them to back me up. If I miss a payment they'd have to pay and 'they can't afford it' (sure seemed to pay for my brother's KX's rebuilt bottom end alright, and his new set of tyres and fuel to get to the MX track and entry fees and fuel for the bike....). I said I wouldn't miss a payment, but she said 'what if you break a leg and you can't keep the payments up?! (which is true but what about if they broke a leg? Would they be able to pay the bills? They don't worry about that...)

[Wasp]

James bro, you are only 17 - thats the point

GO GET A JOB! you could have a fairly nice bike by the end of the year

i mean look at me, i'm only a year older than you - i left school last year instead of doing 7th form and here i am now owning a new bike that I can easily afford but dont have my license yet

edit: seriously, its there if you want it - just go get it and stop wasting time!

[limbimtimwim]

How about a 400?

[Korea]

You selling LBTW? :eek:

[Wasp]

You selling LBTW? :eek:
Yes but only if the offer is right, he's very tidy and well maintained you know!

[nc30vfr400]

whats wrong with a 400 if your a decent rider youll atleast be able to keep quicker 600s in sight. and even if you did get a loan to get a newer bike how will you pay for tyres and fairings if you droped it, all well youre paying your loan back @ minumum payments? bugger that. im a 20yr old apprentice mechanic on shit wages, i got a rough nc30 for cheap (less then 3k) that had gone down, and spent a bita money on getting it sweet i did the clutch my self for $100 bucks + a service at the same time, youl have just as much fun on a 400 and youll be able to get in2 it and work on it yourself, learning more about your bike and saving money, you dont wanna pay someone else $65 a hour to work on a newer 600 cos your scared youll mess it up, and then scared to ride it hard coz if you dropped it youll be buggered, what ever you do dont get a loan, youve allready got more then most 17year olds.

[limbimtimwim]

Yes but only if the offer is right, he's very tidy and well maintained you know!Smokes a little. Grumpy in mornings.

[XP@]

Learn to dream, you may want a 600, I did at your age too. But instead i went for a 350 2-stroke and I could still keep up with the 750's.

If you need to get your parents to help then you will have to get them to want to help you. Look at it through their eyes would you help you?

Can your folks see that you have looked after your current bikes? if not can you get them up to a reasonable look to be able to sell them for a reasonable $? They must be able to see that you will look after your new purchase? They may also need to see that you can have enough investment in it as an incentive to protect it.

You want a 600 sports bike. They think you will break your leg on it because it is fast and you will fall off. A 600 will probably chew through more rubber and a tad more gas. As a parent my biggest concern would be the speeding fines you could pick up, which would hinder your ability to pay because if you break your leg then payments should be covered by insurance (if you took that out).

Would things be different of you asked for a DR 650 or similar? As far as your folks are concerned: You can go ride trails with your bro, they are easy to work on (lower costs), not as fast as a sprots bike, make an excellent commuter, lower insurance (i think?)... and a 101 other benefits over the sprots bike.

Now benefits for you: they are fun, acceleration is quite rapid, over 140kmph you loose your license, you can go more places than a sprots bike and be patient, if you work hard enough and spend smart enough you will have your dream bike.

[Wasp]

You want a 600 sports bike.
thats his point xp@, he wants a 600. prehaps he should have asked for a thou?

you know the whole you want a cat so you ask your parents for a horse and settle for the pet cat thingy?

[onearmedbandit]

Re the finance issue (which is a moot point as your parents won't support your application (and yes 17yr olds can get finance with mum and dad)), I can't understand how some here are saying that finance companies will screw you and the bank won't. It's all fecking numbers, doesn't matter whether it's your grandma, the bank, or Tony Soprano suppying them. In fact we have provided finance to bank employees before as our rate was better than what they can get at the bank! You just need to be smart and read everything before you sign it. No one ever gets ripped off by a finance company, they rip themselves off. No one held a gun to their head (ok, maybe Tony Soprano excepted) to sign the documents, so you've only your own greed to blame, but ah fuck it, so much easier to blame someone else. And as far as paying back twice the amount? Only if you're paying excessive interest (remember, read before you sign) and go the full term. No finance company we use (1st and 2nd tier lenders) charge the full amount of interest if you pay out early, at the most they will charge a S120 early payout fee.

And no I don't work for or represent any finance company, I just use their services every day.

[Coyote]

whats wrong with a 400 if your a decent rider youll atleast be able to keep quicker 600s in sight. and even if you did get a loan to get a newer bike how will you pay for tyres and fairings if you droped it, all well youre paying your loan back @ minumum payments? bugger that. im a 20yr old apprentice mechanic on shit wages, i got a rough nc30 for cheap (less then 3k) that had gone down, and spent a bita money on getting it sweet i did the clutch my self for $100 bucks + a service at the same time, youl have just as much fun on a 400 and youll be able to get in2 it and work on it yourself, learning more about your bike and saving money, you dont wanna pay someone else $65 a hour to work on a newer 600 cos your scared youll mess it up, and then scared to ride it hard coz if you dropped it youll be buggered, what ever you do dont get a loan, youve allready got more then most 17year olds.
I like the 400's, they sound awesome and they look great stock and the TYGA kits look good too. I've yet to ride one though. I started this thread whilst I was still on a massive hit of adreniline that I hadn't experienced before and it felt really really good and that's what made me want a 600 at all costs. However I've calmed down now. I'll give a 400 a try though, but I did like the ZX6R cause it had more power than the Hyosung, a 400 will be quick but I've been yearning for more horsepower

All work will be done by myself, unless i don't have the tools and can't afford to get them or I buggered thibgs up trying to fix it and have to take it to the shop

[Coyote]

Re the finance issue (which is a moot point as your parents won't support your application (and yes 17yr olds can get finance with mum and dad)), I can't understand how some here are saying that finance companies will screw you and the bank won't. It's all fecking numbers, doesn't matter whether it's your grandma, the bank, or Tony Soprano suppying them. In fact we have provided finance to bank employees before as our rate was better than what they can get at the bank! You just need to be smart and read everything before you sign it. No one ever gets ripped off by a finance company, they rip themselves off. No one held a gun to their head (ok, maybe Tony Soprano excepted) to sign the documents, so you've only your own greed to blame, but ah fuck it, so much easier to blame someone else. And as far as paying back twice the amount? Only if you're paying excessive interest (remember, read before you sign) and go the full term. No finance company we use (1st and 2nd tier lenders) charge the full amount of interest if you pay out early, at the most they will charge a S120 early payout fee.

And no I don't work for or represent any finance company, I just use their services every day.
That's what I thought, I knew I'd be paying upwards of several grand extra but in some cases that'd be worth paying to get it sooner. And I know there's depreciation but I had hoped I'd get a bike big and new enough that it didn't need replacing in 1-3 years

[Coyote]

James bro, you are only 17 - thats the point

GO GET A JOB! you could have a fairly nice bike by the end of the year

i mean look at me, i'm only a year older than you - i left school last year instead of doing 7th form and here i am now owning a new bike that I can easily afford but dont have my license yet

edit: seriously, its there if you want it - just go get it and stop wasting time!
I'm Daniel you manus :bleh:

I'm sticking to school mainly for my parents, and kinda just in case my plans change and I did need those level 3 credits in one subject. Better safe than sorry

I've got enough money to save up for a bike. It's not like I'm paying rent and bills at the moment, and when I do I'll probably have that part time job that can pay for everything

[Wasp]

SO thats why i keep calling Cade Daniel, it all makes sense now!

Fair enough, nothing wrong with sticking to school but i've asked my mates what 7th form gave them and they say "nothing" then i tell em how much i earned - the look on their face is priceless :yes:

I dont pay rent. bills (mainly internet) and food i pay for though

[nc30vfr400]

at least if you save you will be able to afford a 400 and most importantly be able to afford to run it, i went from a 150 to a nc30 and it was a good step still get faster everytime i go out, pushing the bike to its limits. its good fun, 400s are often under estimated, especially fast with good tyres (just like any bike) but people tend to not bother putting decent tyres on them because they are just a cheap bike. get a 400 give it a carb balance fresh plugs and tyres and youll be away laughing and still be able to put gas in the thing.
cheers good luck anyway dude.

[Coyote]

SO thats why i keep calling Cade Daniel, it all makes sense now!

Fair enough, nothing wrong with sticking to school but i've asked my mates what 7th form gave them and they say "nothing" then i tell em how much i earned - the look on their face is priceless :yes:

I dont pay rent. bills (mainly internet) and food i pay for though
Lolol

Yeah, I kinda expect it be nothing. And I'm only planning to go to Weltec (and get the skills to start up a custom bike shop [at least that's my dream]). I got quite pissed off at my physics teacher basically saying Weltec is for people who fail school, I was enjoying the subject untill then. Anyway, I'll stick to it and luckily the jobs haven't tired me out yet. In fact they give me something to do

at least if you save you will be able to afford a 400 and most importantly be able to afford to run it, i went from a 150 to a nc30 and it was a good step still get faster everytime i go out, pushing the bike to its limits. its good fun, 400s are often under estimated, especially fast with good tyres (just like any bike) but people tend to not bother putting decent tyres on them because they are just a cheap bike. get a 400 give it a carb balance fresh plugs and tyres and youll be away laughing and still be able to put gas in the thing.
cheers good luck anyway dude.
I'll try find one at a dealers to test ride and see whether I'm convinced. Untill then a 2004 GSXR600 is my goal by the end of the year

[Coyote]

I like the look of the ZXR750, like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=92421739

What are the cons with them? What's likely to go wrong that I'd have to fix, etc? I've yet to test ride one and when I do I might find it looks cool but it's a pig (but they seem to have some cult status so they must be pretty alright). I've yet to convince my parents about helping me get a bank loan, but they have been impressed by how hard I've been working to try and save up (but the RG tends to suck that money away so I'm still at nothing) and I'm looking at getting a better and higher paying job after my after school job (giving me the weekends free once i quit countdown)

[limbimtimwim]

Quit Countdown. I worked at one when I was your age. Worked hard, low pay.

I suppose it made me the man I am today.

[Wasp]

Quit Countdown. I worked at one when I was your age. Worked hard, low pay.

I suppose it made me the man I am today.
Shit, quit now!

just kidding, try find a job - i dont spose there is any reason to quit and then go looking is there?

[Back Fire]

I said I wouldn't miss a payment, but she said 'what if you break a leg and you can't keep the payments up?! (which is true but what about if they broke a leg? Would they be able to pay the bills? They don't worry about that...)

if that happens, and you have taken out payment protection (almost all banks/finance companys will do it, and its added to the loan your paying off) they will pay all your payments until you can go back to work, you don't have to pay them back... so if you manage to paralyze yourself... you just got yourself a free bike...

[Back Fire]

I like the look of the ZXR750, like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=92421739

What are the cons with them? What's likely to go wrong that I'd have to fix, etc? I've yet to test ride one and when I do I might find it looks cool but it's a pig (but they seem to have some cult status so they must be pretty alright). I've yet to convince my parents about helping me get a bank loan, but they have been impressed by how hard I've been working to try and save up (but the RG tends to suck that money away so I'm still at nothing) and I'm looking at getting a better and higher paying job after my after school job (giving me the weekends free once i quit countdown)

A ZXR400 H2 will piddle on the earlier ZXR750's... the later ZX-7R's on the other hand are quite nice machines

[Coyote]

Quit Countdown. I worked at one when I was your age. Worked hard, low pay.

I suppose it made me the man I am today.
Well I've learnt a lot from it too. Never work for a multinational corporation. They work you to an inch of your life, the very vague when you ask about the union (which was actually quite a laugh e.g Manager:"(long pause).. ahh.... yeah the union rep is in Auckland.... you'll have to go see her if she has any forms... you'd be the only one in the union at this store (rich person laugh)) and the conditions are at the bare minimum of what the government will allow (minimum wage and unpaid breaks)

The other job is working for K9 security, checking places like schools to see if they're locked up. My parents aren't too keen on me working for them saying that's dangerous

[Coyote]

Shit, quit now!

just kidding, try find a job - i dont spose there is any reason to quit and then go looking is there?
My parents even want me to quit saying it's shit. I'd love to but I'm whipped by the desire to get a big bike

I'll be securing another job before I quit

[Coyote]

if that happens, and you have taken out payment protection (almost all banks/finance companys will do it, and its added to the loan your paying off) they will pay all your payments until you can go back to work, you don't have to pay them back... so if you manage to paralyze yourself... you just got yourself a free bike...
I'll look into that

A ZXR400 H2 will piddle on the earlier ZXR750's... the later ZX-7R's on the other hand are quite nice machines
If I wanted a 400 I'd go for a VFR (for the sound :love:). I have the RG for sweet handling (as I'd get so little for it I'm likely to keep it) but I want a bike with more power. One where I don't change gear so often, it performs up a hill as well on flat ground, I can take a passenger, power wheelies, etc. So long is it handles reasonably well I'd be fine (don't want a drag bike)

The ZX7R is also nice and I like the look of that. They're about the same price as Motoracer's R6 though, and that's a nicer, lighter, more modern bike for the money

As I said before, I've yet to test ride one, may change my mind then. Haven't test rode a VFR yet either

[limbimtimwim]

Well I've learnt a lot from it too. Never work for a multinational corporation. They work you to an inch of your life, the very vague when you ask about the union (which was actually quite a laugh e.g Manager:"(long pause).. ahh.... yeah the union rep is in Auckland.... you'll have to go see her if she has any forms... you'd be the only one in the union at this store (rich person laugh)) and the conditions are at the bare minimum of what the government will allow (minimum wage and unpaid breaks)Wow, that's a flat out lie. I'm not exactly pro union, but you should tell the NDU http://www.nduunion.org.nz/ what your boss said. I'm not suggesting you join, but that is so out of line it's not funny. I think you'll find many of the full-timers at your supermarket are union members.

Tell me, what is this managers name? Sounds like one I encountered once...

Anyway, yeah motorcycles.. Voom voom!!

[Coyote]

Wow, that's a flat out lie. I'm not exactly pro union, but you should tell the NDU http://www.nduunion.org.nz/ what your boss said. I'm not suggesting you join, but that is so out of line it's not funny. I think you'll find many of the full-timers at your supermarket are union members.

Tell me, what is this managers name? Sounds like one I encountered once...

Anyway, yeah motorcycles.. Voom voom!!
Bernard (enter last name here), the manager of the Upper Hutt Countdown store. High up enough in the food chain to treat me like scum, yet still stocks shelves.

I wanted to join after hearing you got paid more (as a friend of mine at Woolworths is in the union). This goes aginst what I was originally told when I had to choose between the Collective and Individual Agreements as I was told I had to pay for Union running expenses so I'd be earning $1.50 an hour less. I thought F that and went for the Individual, little did I know that I'd be paying that $1.50 an hour for the union, but all union memeber got paid an extra $3-4 an hour over non-union members.

Add in 10 months working there, plus the fact that they won't give me a pay rise cause I haven't had any performance evaluations, they've stiffed me out of $100s of bucks.

And yeah, bikes rock!

[Wasp]

I'll be securing another job before I quit
yea, thats basically what i meant but didnt type it out so it made sense

also, i've been riding the 636 around lately - I ride it slower than the bandit

I actually wish I had the Bandit to ride as its easier and nicer and lighter to handle the only downside is the decrease in power but so what it just takes longer to get to 50 or 100.....

[Back Fire]

The ZX7R is also nice and I like the look of that. They're about the same price as Motoracer's R6 though, and that's a nicer, lighter, more modern bike for the money


totally totally agree with you there! also ZX7R's dont do the power wheelie thing to great... MR's bike is a very good deal...

[cowpoos]

I like the look of the ZXR750, like this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=92421739

What are the cons with them? What's likely to go wrong that I'd have to fix, etc? I've yet to test ride one and when I do I might find it looks cool but it's a pig (but they seem to have some cult status so they must be pretty alright). I've yet to convince my parents about helping me get a bank loan, but they have been impressed by how hard I've been working to try and save up (but the RG tends to suck that money away so I'm still at nothing) and I'm looking at getting a better and higher paying job after my after school job (giving me the weekends free once i quit countdown)
what can you afford a week? can you get insurance for a big bike?

[Coyote]

what can you afford a week? can you get insurance for a big bike?
I pretty much can't afford anything... And I haven't contacted Insurance companies yet (although TSS said for the ZX6R I'd have to factor in $800 a year for insurance, like on my old CBR)

I'm earning 120 a week. Currently spend about 20 bucks a week on fuel (and the RG is very very thirsty, I wouldn't be surprised if a 600 is more econonic) and $10 on my phone each month. Otherwise I don't spend much and much else. I don't drink/smoke/get hookers/etc. (well don't drink often)

I test rode a WR450 today. It wasn't as exciting as the 6R even though the WR is probably more my type of riding style. The WR was kinda like a tractor in comparison. But then it had shitty brakes, a stock pipe and knobbies so it wasn't able to impress me in a non-high-revving way. I'm going to test ride a proper motard at Maidstone Yamaha sometime

[Coyote]

I'm getting pretty run down with all this school and work. I might not be able to handle much more, and I don't even know why I'm staying at school as it seems to be dragging along and I'm learning shit of no relevance

[limbimtimwim]

What year of school are you in? I just scraped through 7th form, basically didn't go for a few months. Teachers kept marking me present since I was for so many years such a good student, and didn't really notice I wasn't there. Getting university entrance was worth it, because then I had maximum choice in tertiary education after school.

Some people say 'Not finishing school will make you a looser', but I disagree. Just don't make any choices yet that are hard to undo.

[Coyote]

What year of school are you in? I just scraped through 7th form, basically didn't go for a few months. Teachers kept marking me present since I was for so many years such a good student, and didn't really notice I wasn't there. Getting university entrance was worth it, because then I had maximum choice in tertiary education after school.

Some people say 'Not finishing school will make you a looser', but I disagree. Just don't make any choices yet that are hard to undo.
7th form. I'd like to go to uni, but it's not like the good old days where you went out of interest, learnt something and left. Now you have to pay through the nose... I'm more likely to go to Weltec next year at this stage. Auto Refinishing

I've quit countdown. Still got 2 weeks of work

[limbimtimwim]

7th form. I'd like to go to uni, but it's not like the good old days where you went out of interest, learnt something and left.I don't think things have changed too much in 4 years :) . I'm not doing working in what I studied; I did politics.

[Coyote]

I don't think things have changed too much in 4 years :) . I'm not doing working in what I studied; I did politics.
Well I'd rather spend $10k on a SP1 than on a student loan off a course that doesn't get me a job. I was interested in physics but my Dad spoke to a physics teacher at the school he works at and he said that only the top 5% get jobs in research, the rest of graduates become teachers teaching how the sexual organs work to year 10's