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Pumba
15th March 2007, 09:42
Ok peoples I have a gaurage, see pictures, but the issue is that it has a tilt a door on it. Now I have been looking at replacing the door with a sectional door so I dont have to park my car so many metres away from the shead in order to get my bike out.

The real question is do I also put a Garage Door Opener on it at the same time or is it a bit of a waste of time.

Comments and opinions welcomed

Cajun
15th March 2007, 09:43
personally i would put door opener, means when ya get home just push button and ride bike straight in garage, i mean an electric door opener is only gonna add a couple more hundred to price at max.

Magua
15th March 2007, 09:45
If it tilts, it's not ideal Neil.

Put one on, it's handy when you're feeling lazy.

shafty
15th March 2007, 09:57
no brainer...
Tip: Ours is a Guardian and the remotes are about the size of a matchbox - easier to mount on a bike or fit in a jacket pocket versus the big ones (cig packet size)

Squeak the Rat
15th March 2007, 10:22
Strange days.......

Go with the opener if you can afford it. You don't have to get off/on the bike when leaving or entering. Wubbery.

But you are still going to have to park a wee bit away from the door to get the bike around the car no? :sherlock:

dnos
15th March 2007, 10:26
Find a buxom blond lass to open the door for ya, and mebbe do the laundry and cook dinner while your out riding.
Hrmmmm, that will probably turn out to be a much more expensive option.
OK buy the push button doohickey.

crashe
15th March 2007, 10:28
Strange days.......

Go with the opener if you can afford it. You don't have to get off/on the bike when leaving or entering. Wubbery.

But you are still going to have to park a wee bit away from the door to get the bike around the car no? :sherlock:

Mate you leave the car out on the driveway..... over to the side....... :whistle:


Then you push the door opener..... and ride the bike straight into the middle of the garage......

Disco Dan
15th March 2007, 10:45
some garage door openers are not very 'secure'. ...I have heard of people going to mitre10 and buying a couple of new remotes and driving up and down the streets pressing the buttons.. theres not too many combinations and sooner or later your door will open... bye bye bike. Most people also forget to put a movement sensor in the garage hooked up to their house alarm system.

If your going to do it, I would also think about putting two deadbolt/padlocks on the door - but then you cant be lazy and just press the button, you would have to unbolt them first.

Doesnt take much to get off your bike and unlock your garage door, and then open it. Keep things simple.

The clever part of security - actually make it hard for people to enter your garage. Because once their in, they have all your tools to get your bike locks etc off...

ManDownUnder
15th March 2007, 10:46
If the power is reliable then yes.

When the power goes off you can't open the door without getting inside and "releasing it". Once that's done, securing the garage is an issue.

That being said - I'd put one on personally. we have one at home and it's great

MSTRS
15th March 2007, 10:47
Def. go with the opener. So much less fuss, and it doubles as the lock. Only problem is in a powercut - if you don't have a side door.

imdying
15th March 2007, 11:04
'Powercut' is a bonus when you're on holiday, just pull the plug on it :)

vifferman
15th March 2007, 11:16
Do I also put a Garage Door Opener on it at the same time or is it a bit of a waste of time.
Yeah, do it. It would be silly not to.

Then add one of these to your bike (magic door opener button):

vifferman
15th March 2007, 11:20
Mate you leave the car out on the driveway..... over to the side....... :whistle:


Then you push the door opener..... and ride the bike straight into the middle of the gargre......
Yeah, I do that.
The opener on my bike will work from up to 100 metres away, whereas the ones for the car (exact same remotes, but surrounded by car hide) work only when the car is right in front of the gargre. When I come home on the bike, the door's nearly open before I get to it. (Apart from this one time two weeks ago, when I took the long way round, and unbeknown to me, my wife was waiting outside the door, and couldn't understand why it started to come down again for no reason...)

Motu
15th March 2007, 11:21
You haven't learnt much living in Auckland - I'd have two slide bolts entering into the concrete drive with matching key Abus locks,I'd also have two internal locks and two box section slide bars across the door.Park you car as close to the door as possible.I like to keep my bikes and gear in my shed....

Pumba
15th March 2007, 11:23
Find a buxom blond lass to open the door for ya, and mebbe do the laundry and cook dinner while your out riding.
Hrmmmm, that will probably turn out to be a much more expensive option.
OK buy the push button doohickey.

Yea thought about that idea but I did the maths and long term I think the meachanical opener would be cheaper, and if the mechanical one wears out I could probaly replace it.


Mate you leave the car out on the driveway..... over to the side....... :whistle:


Then you push the door opener..... and ride the bike straight into the middle of the garage......

You got the idea

some garage door openers are not very 'secure'.

Doesnt take much to get off your bike and unlock your garage door, and then open it. Keep things simple.

Yea but have you ever tried to get into a locked tilt a door, trust my gaurage is not the most secure place in the world as it is, and as for getting of the bike and unlocking crap that is what I am doing now, but I have to park the bike, find my keys, go through the graden gate, unlock the mandoor, open the tilt a door, put bike in.


Def. go with the opener. So much less fuss, and it doubles as the lock. Only problem is in a powercut - if you don't have a side door.

Side door yea ive got one of them.

So the general feeling im geting is that if im lasy and like lifes covieniences (which I am and do) I should go for it.

Quartermile
15th March 2007, 11:35
Yea we have a Garadoor, which works great the openinging thingy is the size of a box of matches and is on my key ring:D

Disco Dan
15th March 2007, 11:43
You haven't learnt much living in Auckland - I'd have two slide bolts entering into the concrete drive with matching key Abus locks,I'd also have two internal locks and two box section slide bars across the door.Park you car as close to the door as possible.I like to keep my bikes and gear in my shed....

Right on.

If you want to keep your stuff you need to have a bit more than just a small pin going into a chain on your door opener. Ive been locked out before and just gave the garage a good hard pull and snapped that pin... door swung open...



Yea but have you ever tried to get into a locked tilt a door, trust my gaurage is not the most secure place in the world as it is, and as for getting of the bike and unlocking crap that is what I am doing now, but I have to park the bike, find my keys, go through the graden gate, unlock the mandoor, open the tilt a door, put bike in.


again.. as Motu said... If you want to live in auckland and keep your stuff you need a smeg load more security measures than just a 'door opener'.

Squeak the Rat
15th March 2007, 11:48
Any building is only as secure as it's weakest point. No point going all high tech on the door when they can simply smash the window around the back.

Pumba
15th March 2007, 11:55
Any building is only as secure as it's weakest point. No point going all high tech on the door when they can simply smash the window around the back.

Your dead right squeak. The windows at the back are a bit of a pain in the arse but I didnt design or build the garage so I didnt have a hell ofa lot of say in the matter

sunhuntin
15th March 2007, 12:00
weve got an opener on our door,and ive gotta switch it off at the wall cos we have found it open a few times!

Nasty
15th March 2007, 12:36
I would not be without my garage door opener ... I use it when in the car or on the bike ... is great for those of us who don't like swinging the leg over too often ;)

Disco Dan
15th March 2007, 12:41
I would not be without my garage door opener ... I use it when in the car or on the bike ... is great for those of us who don't like swinging the leg over too often ;)

You can just say "frigid" we wont laugh ;)

Nasty
15th March 2007, 12:49
You can just say "frigid" we wont laugh ;)

I would call you a prick but I think thats a compliment :yes:

Pumba
15th March 2007, 12:52
I would call you a prick but I think thats a compliment :yes:

Doesnt dtop it being the truth tho:dodge:

Disco Dan
15th March 2007, 13:02
I would call you a prick but I think thats a compliment :yes:


Doesnt dtop it being the truth tho:dodge:

Depends how "nasty" you are? whips and chains? :shutup: ...bring it on!

So have you made a decision on the garage? What area are you in? If your out West or South, I would strongly suggest you increase your security. An electronic door opener is about as secure as a cardboard box.

cynna
15th March 2007, 13:15
a while ago a guy from work was riding home and pushed the door opener, his wife heard him coming and also opened the door for him - he came up the drive, rode in as the door was coming down and it wiped him out.......

damaged car, bike, pram and a hole in the garage wall..........

Pumba
15th March 2007, 13:24
Depends how "nasty" you are? whips and chains? :shutup: ...bring it on!

So have you made a decision on the garage? What area are you in? If your out West or South, I would strongly suggest you increase your security. An electronic door opener is about as secure as a cardboard box.

Probally will look at going with the opener, as mentioned above the garage is only as strong as its weakest entry point and there are areas that arnt what I would call top notch as far as security goes, Im in sandringham, and have you ever tried getting into a securly taped cardboard box ti can be pretty tricky:shutup:

Disco Dan
15th March 2007, 13:26
have you ever tried getting into a securly taped cardboard box ti can be pretty tricky:shutup:

It's all in the technique... reckon I can get into a box in under 3 seconds :innocent:

as for your garage... about 15 seconds.... your risk.

desmo dave
15th March 2007, 13:36
Looks like you have a side door so why not just fit an auto opener. Just hit the button while going up the driveway, cheapest option.Spend the change on a good dog.May have to be a small 1 though, unless you want to walk it lot's

Pumba
15th March 2007, 15:32
as for your garage... about 15 seconds.... your risk.

Less if the smash the window with a brick

Motu
15th March 2007, 16:18
Any building is only as secure as it's weakest point. No point going all high tech on the door when they can simply smash the window around the back.

That's why you also have locks on the inside.They can gain entry - but they also need to gain exit if they want your bike.

blackkatana
15th March 2007, 19:43
Press button, door opens, got to be good.:rockon:

Pumba
16th March 2007, 07:22
Yeah, do it. It would be silly not to.

Then add one of these to your bike (magic door opener button):

Hey vifferman that looks a interesting litle button, mind explaining how it works

vifferman
16th March 2007, 07:58
Hey vifferman that looks a interesting litle button, mind explaining how it works
I push it, and the gargre door opens.
Magic!



























It's connected to a gargre door opener stuck under the upper fairing cowl (above the headlights) with 3M stuff (like velcro, but heavier duty).
My original plan was to hook it up to the hihg-beam flasher, but that involved a relay, diodes, and all sorts of drama, so I used the KISS principle and did the whole thing for the cost of a small switch from Jaycar. It fits into a plastic blanking plate that replaces a headlight on/off switch that some model VFR in some strange part of the world has.
If the switch breaks again, I'm going to go with the headlight flasher, as I've found that when racing up the road, it's easier to use than the thumbswitch on the throttle/brake side.

Pumba
16th March 2007, 13:24
Hmmm as I said earlier what an interesting little button.

Thanks everyone gave me plenty to think about if nothing more

F5 Dave
16th March 2007, 14:44
I’d keep thinking. I am all in favour of auto opener as it makes the door much nicer to get up. Was told by Garage door installer that you won’t be able to get a door open against the motor.

Bolocks!

When thinking about security the average chap doesn’t consider that a simple "I can’t tug this open" isn’t a good test. A crook doesn’t care if he breaks something.

In fact that’s the point!

You only have to lever something up enough to slide a small child under to open the door from inside. Oh a life of crime starts early for many.

Make your side door secure, deadlock & screw some decent ply over all the windows with a decent elecy screwdriver (from the inside). Put padlocks on the inside. Ideally nothing that can twist off with a lever.

Buy one of those ground locks & lock bike to that.

Get that alarm installed. 2 sirens inside the garage. Don’t store a disc grinder in the garage.

Don't store your keys on the key ring inside the house.

The excess will cost the same as above & life isn’t long enough to learn only from your own mistakes.

Yeah it is a hassle unlocking every time, but that auto lift will take some of the sting out of it.

sunhuntin
16th March 2007, 18:43
Hmmm as I said earlier what an interesting little button.

Thanks everyone gave me plenty to think about if nothing more

my partner was trying to do the same, but 90% of the time, the door didnt open for some reason. he had it fitted near the engine i think. hed hit it coming up the road, again in the driveway and then a 3rd time right in front of it. it very rarely worked. must ask him if he ever sorted it out. lmfao.