Grovelling to the Courts

[The Pastor]

Hey here is my letter explaining my actions to the courts, is this set in the formal tone? And would you make any changes to the letter?


If you think this is inaproreate, I will remove it.



Registrar Of this court
North Shore District Court
Corner Don McKinnon & Corinthian Drives

RE: Traffic offence, exceeding speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour.


Dear Registrar Of this court,


I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour on the edit. I realize that there is no valid excuse for exceeding the speed limit and I am truly ashamed of my actions on the edit. I was not paying attention to my speed and I did exceed the posted limit of 100 kilometers per hour at approximately 23:33 hrs. I believe Constable edit was the officer who pulled me over and helped me get my motorcycle home.

I would like the courts to consider the fact that I have co-operated with the police at every chance and I applaud the police for doing such a good work even though I suspect it is often a thankless job. I would also like the courts to take into consideration that I have already lost my license for the mandatory 28 days, a punishment that is fair and a very good reminder to be careful on the roads. I would like the courts to take into consideration of the fact that the 50 demerits I am likely to get with added punishment of the fine will be more than enough reminder to be alert and aware of my speed and conditions of those around me. I would also like the courts to take into consideration the conditions at the time of the infringement, It was late at night the road was very empty and my speed had just creped up, Constable Edit determined that my riding was not putting anyone other than myself at a great risk and did not charge me with a more serious charge of dangerous driving or dangerous speed. He was very fair and just in his judgment of this case.

I also want this issue to go through the court system as quickly and hassle free as possible as I’m sure there are a lot more urgent matters at hand that a speeding infringement.
I would like the courts to understand that I have realized that my actions were unacceptable I will slow down as life is not a race.

I would like to thank the courts for dealing with this carefully and justfully.

Yours faithfully,
Renegade

[Skunk]

Fix the spelling:

I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometres per hour on the edit. I realize that there is no valid excuse for exceeding the speed limit and I am truly ashamed of my actions on the edit. I was not paying attention to my speed and I did exceed the posted limit of 100 kilometres per hour at approximately 23:33 hrs. I believe Constable edit was the officer who pulled me over and helped me get my motorcycle home.

I would like the courts to consider the fact that I have co-operated with the police at every chance and I applaud the police for doing such a good work even though I suspect it is often a thankless job. I would also like the courts to take into consideration that I have already lost my license for the mandatory 28 days, a punishment that is fair and a very good reminder to be careful on the roads. I would like the courts to take into consideration of the fact that the 50 demerits I am likely to get with added punishment of the fine will be more than enough reminder to be alert and aware of my speed and conditions of those around me. I would also like the courts to take into consideration the conditions at the time of the infringement, it was late at night the road was very empty and my speed had just crept up, Constable Edit determined that my riding was not putting anyone other than myself at a great risk and did not charge me with a more serious charge of dangerous driving or dangerous speed. He was very fair and just in his judgement of this case.

I also want this issue to go through the court system as quickly and hassle free as possible as I’m sure there are a lot more urgent matters at hand that a speeding infringement.
I would like the courts to understand that I have realized that my actions were unacceptable I will slow down as life is not a race.

I would like to thank the courts for dealing with this carefully and justfully (not a word - try justly).

[crashe]

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Glenfield,
Auckland Area code???
16 March 2007

Registrar of this court
North Shore District Court
Corner Don McKinnon & Corinthian Drives
what suburb is this in and area code?

RE: State traffic offence number only

Dear Registrar,

I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour on the edit. I realize that there is no valid excuse for exceeding the speed limit and I am truly ashamed of my actions on the edit. I was not paying attention to my speed and I did exceed the posted limit of 100 kilometers per hour at approximately 23:33 hrs. I believe Constable edit was the officer who pulled me over and helped me get my motorcycle home.

I would like the courts to consider the fact that I have co-operated with the police at every chance and I applaud the police for doing such a good work even though I suspect it is often a thankless job. I would also like the courts to take into consideration that I have already lost my license for the mandatory 28 days, a punishment that is fair and a very good reminder to be careful on the roads. I would like the courts to take into consideration of the fact that the 50 demerits I am likely to get with added punishment of the fine will be more than enough reminder to be alert and aware of my speed and conditions of those around me. I would also like the courts to take into consideration the conditions at the time of the infringement, It was late at night the road was very empty and my speed had just creped up, Constable Edit determined that my riding was not putting anyone other than myself at a great risk and did not charge me with a more serious charge of dangerous driving or dangerous speed. He was very fair and just in his judgment of this case.

I also want this issue to go through the court system as quickly and hassle free as possible as I’m sure there are a lot more urgent matters at hand that a speeding infringement.
I would like the courts to understand that I have realized that my actions were unacceptable I will slow down as life is not a race.

I would like to thank the courts for dealing with this carefully and justfully.

Yours faithfully,
--

Note the bits in RED
I also took out your address for security reasons.

The very first sentence is what they will read, see that you are pleady GUILTY and let you know what amount you will pay, they most likely wont read the rest of your article.

[Squeak the Rat]

I also want this issue to go through the court system as quickly and hassle free as possible as I’m sure there are a lot more urgent matters at hand that a speeding infringement.

In my best lawmans inner monologue - "What, he doesn't consider speeding an urgent matter? Like hell we'll be nice to him".

Just a possible interpretation.......

[Karma]

Here's how I see it... you've basically admitted you were not concentrating on your riding... if you can't keep an eye on your speed how can you spot anything else.

If they let you off your speeding ticket they should take your license away for not being able to ride.

Also...

As has been shown many many times, you can write all the letters you want, won't do you any good, the courts just ignore them.

[Drum]

Sweet Jebus. Don McKinnon has a road named after him!

[changing_man]

"and my speed had just creped up

I think this should be "crept", if you mean creep in the past tense. Good luck!

[The Pastor]

Here's how I see it... you've basically admitted you were not concentrating on your riding... if you can't keep an eye on your speed how can you spot anything else.

If they let you off your speeding ticket they should take your license away for not being able to ride.

Also...

As has been shown many many times, you can write all the letters you want, won't do you any good, the courts just ignore them.


Sorry but you wrong. Im not asking to be let off you noob, Im pleading guilty so I don't have to show up.

[The Pastor]

Fix the spelling:

I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometres per hour on the edit. I realize that there is no valid excuse for exceeding the speed limit and I am truly ashamed of my actions on the edit. I was not paying attention to my speed and I did exceed the posted limit of 100 kilometres per hour at approximately 23:33 hrs. I believe Constable edit was the officer who pulled me over and helped me get my motorcycle home.

I would like the courts to consider the fact that I have co-operated with the police at every chance and I applaud the police for doing such a good work even though I suspect it is often a thankless job. I would also like the courts to take into consideration that I have already lost my license for the mandatory 28 days, a punishment that is fair and a very good reminder to be careful on the roads. I would like the courts to take into consideration of the fact that the 50 demerits I am likely to get with added punishment of the fine will be more than enough reminder to be alert and aware of my speed and conditions of those around me. I would also like the courts to take into consideration the conditions at the time of the infringement, it was late at night the road was very empty and my speed had just creped up, Constable Edit determined that my riding was not putting anyone other than myself at a great risk and did not charge me with a more serious charge of dangerous driving or dangerous speed. He was very fair and just in his judgement of this case.

I also want this issue to go through the court system as quickly and hassle free as possible as I’m sure there are a lot more urgent matters at hand that a speeding infringement.
I would like the courts to understand that I have realized that my actions were unacceptable I will slow down as life is not a race.

I would like to thank the courts for dealing with this carefully and justfully (not a word - try justly).


Actually my spelling of kilometers and judgment are correct. The metre is the uk version the ter is the usa version, both of wich are fine in nz. Judgment is the correct nz spelling.

But thanks anyways, english is my 1st language, but I was never taught it.

[surfer]

Good luck with the plead. Any chance of you letting us know the outcome?

[Karma]

Sorry but you wrong. Im not asking to be let off you noob, Im pleading guilty so I don't have to show up.

In which case, if you're not being charged with dangerous, can't you just pay the fine?

[Macktheknife]

Hi RM,
No offence but you sound like you are whining and your spelling and grammar are not good.
Just state the facts, plead guilty and ask for the court to go easy on you. KISS principle applies. (keep it simple stupid)

Eg:
In regard to Infringement notice 123123123
Charge: exceeding speed limit of 100kmh.
I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour on the date.
I have no suitable excuse or reason for my actions and accept that I was completely in the wrong.
In deciding on my punishment I would greatly appreciate the court considering the following points.
1. The officer who issued the ticket acknowledged that I was not presenting any danger to anyone other than myself.
2. I have already lost my licence for the mandatory 28 days.
3. The road conditions were dry and clear, traffic was very light.
4. I have cooperated at all times with the police.
5. I have learned my lesson and will at all times in future ride to the legal limits and conditions.

Thanking you in advance
Yours sincerely
Dickheadonabike.


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Or something like that, good luck anyway

[avgas]

Yeh sign it 'Renegade' - it will be awesome :yes:

[xwhatsit]

Hi RM,
No offence but you sound like you are whining and your spelling and grammar are not good.
Just state the facts, plead guilty and ask for the court to go easy on you. KISS principle applies. (keep it simple stupid)

Eg:
In regard to Infringement notice 123123123
Charge: exceeding speed limit of 100kmh.
I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour on the date.
I have no suitable excuse or reason for my actions and accept that I was completely in the wrong.
In deciding on my punishment I would greatly appreciate the court considering the following points.
1. The officer who issued the ticket acknowledged that I was not presenting any danger to anyone other than myself.
2. I have already lost my licence for the mandatory 28 days.
3. The road conditions were dry and clear, traffic was very light.
4. I have cooperated at all times with the police.
5. I have learned my lesson and will at all times in future ride to the legal limits and conditions.

Thanking you in advance
Yours sincerely
Dickheadonabike.


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Or something like that, good luck anyway

I'd go with that, nobody likes reading through pages of bollocks (my own posts not withstanding), especially when you're asking them to go easy on you. The above sounds much more professional and concise, and doesn't sound like you're whinging.

[Skytwr]

Send a copy to the Police Prosecutions Office as well, this way you can ensure that both of them get the letter.

[Skunk]

Actually my spelling of kilometers and judgment are correct. The metre is the uk version the ter is the usa version, both of wich are fine in nz. Judgment is the correct nz spelling.

But thanks anyways, english is my 1st language, but I was never taught it.
It's the French spelling I believe. And kilometers is wrong here, the same as color is. But it's your letter.

[Hans]

Hi RM,
No offence but you sound like you are whining and your spelling and grammar are not good.
Just state the facts, plead guilty and ask for the court to go easy on you. KISS principle applies. (keep it simple stupid)

Eg:
In regard to Infringement notice 123123123
Charge: exceeding speed limit of 100kmh.
I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour on the date.
I have no suitable excuse or reason for my actions and accept that I was completely in the wrong.
In deciding on my punishment I would greatly appreciate the court considering the following points.
1. The officer who issued the ticket acknowledged that I was not presenting any danger to anyone other than myself.
2. I have already lost my licence for the mandatory 28 days.
3. The road conditions were dry and clear, traffic was very light.
4. I have cooperated at all times with the police.
5. I have learned my lesson and will at all times in future ride to the legal limits and conditions.

Thanking you in advance
Yours sincerely
Dickheadonabike.


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Or something like that, good luck anyway


Yeah, I'd definitely go with that. Well done Mack.

[mstriumph]

..............................

I would like the courts to consider the fact that I have co-operated with the police at every chance and I applaud the police for doing such a good work even though I suspect it is often a thankless job. I would also like the courts to take into consideration that I have already lost my license for the mandatory 28 days, a punishment that is fair and a very good reminder to be careful on the roads. I would like the courts to take into consideration of the fact that the 50 demerits I am likely to get with added punishment of the fine will be more than enough reminder to be alert and aware of my speed and conditions of those around me.

I would also like the courts to take into consideration the conditions at the time of the infringement, It was late at night the road was very empty and my speed had just creped up, Constable Edit determined that my riding was not putting anyone other than myself at a great risk and did not charge me with a more serious charge of dangerous driving or dangerous speed. He was very fair and just in his judgment of this case.

I also want this issue to go through the court system as quickly and hassle- free as possible as I’m sure there are a lot more urgent matters at hand that a speeding infringement.
I would like the courts to understand that I have realized that my actions were unacceptable and I will slow down as life is not a race.

I would like to thank the courts for dealing with this carefully and justfully.

Yours faithfully,
Renegade

I, too, would send something less flowery ...
...... but if you are set on sending the letter as originally written then a new paragraph after you have finished talking about the demerit points and are starting to describe the conditions would make the letter more readable - also, it is 'crept' and 'justly' by the way - and 'license' should be 'licence' as it's a noun, not a verb. 'courts' should be 'Court, 'of' is superfluous and should be removed, you need an 'and' after 'unacceptable'. There needs to be a hyphen between 'hassle' and 'free' ....... oh, and i'd take out the bits i've highlighted in orange as, to me, they make the offence sound broader/more dangerous than it actually was ....

sorry :shutup: i DO tend to go on a bit ...... good luck with it

[The Pastor]

In which case, if you're not being charged with dangerous, can't you just pay the fine?

Thats the general idea einstein.


Thanks for your help everyone, I've never written a formal letter before. (english at school nowdays you just watch movies and then write about what happend, and you can't get marked down more than 1 mark for spelling :D)


Also I've looked all over the summons and I can't find and infringement number? the is a "CRN 00000000000" number could that be it? There are heaps of other random numbers all over the top but with nothing to suggest what they mean for eg "e979" "drg304" etc

[marty]

e979 is the offence code.
drg304 is the qid of the cop
crn is the offence number - Court Record Number. that is the number you quote in correspondence to the court

[BAD DAD]

How much does it cost for a Hack lawyer these days to appear on your behalf or do you have to turn up in person?

[Juud]

I'd go with Macktheknife's version, it saves you having to go through all the grammar misery. They probably can't be arsed reading it all anyway.

Good luck!

Btw, what's the difference between an empty and a very empty road?

[avgas]

I have a feeling you will get a letter back saying:
Dear Sir/Madam

In Reference to offense No. XXXXXXX, we are unable to process you any futher until this matter must go to Court.

Regards

If your lucky they might cross out the Madam part, but don't expect an actual signature on the bottom.

[bell]

Aaah, nice one guys. Entertainment galore reading this thread. Sometimes I browse through KB and think: What a load of crap I've wasted the last hour reading. This thread falls into that category, however, it's made me laugh, so it hasn't been completely pointless.

If I was Hitcher, I'd probably have come up with some succinct and painfully smart barb concerning the "grammar" that was in that letter. Alas, I am not. So I will refrain from commenting on the 17 remaining grammatical 'gems' contained in the letter.

C'mon Hitcher, do your stuff.

[Hans]

Aaah, nice one guys. Entertainment galore reading this thread. Sometimes I browse through KB and think: What a load of crap I've wasted the last hour reading. This thread falls into that category, however, it's made me laugh, so it hasn't been completely pointless.

If I was Hitcher, I'd probably have come up with some succinct and painfully smart barb concerning the "grammar" that was in that letter. Alas, I am not. So I will refrain from commenting on the 17 remaining grammatical 'gems' contained in the letter.

C'mon Hitcher, do your stuff.

Then don't waste your time. Most people here realise they're not perfect.

[Balding Eagle]

Don't know if this is too late but I would certainly go with macktheknife's version. Succinct, no crap and likely to get a far better response. Shows a bit more education and intellect than the original.

[Grahameeboy]

How's about this for a letter?


Dear Cunt,

You and your gay pig mates can go fuck themselves cos you'll never take me alive!

And don't try to fuckin ram me off the road either like you did with that other poor prick, go and catch some proper criminals you pussies.

Cheers,

RM

PS - Lick my balls you scumbag.
PPS - Your mum is a dirty slag.


You should start a new line of 'celebration' cards Ben...............

[R6_kid]

good luck bro, i got $780 and probably some demerits (will have to check) no extra time... that was for 59kmh over, but i knew what i was doing etc, and didnt mention anything about it just creeping up... FFS what speeed were you doing, its not like it was 115 or 120 if i remember correctly. And stop saying 'i would like the court to take into consideration', say it once and then add also, furthermore,... etc

[peasea]

Not a bad effort for a nine-year-old.

Well, it's not bad but I think 'cos' should be spelt (spelled) 'coz' for a start. If you're going to abuse someone the spelling and grammar should be spot on. I consider this to be a sport and while I'm not the greatest I do have my moments.

[scumdog]

Well, it's not bad but I think 'cos' should be spelt (spelled) 'coz' for a start. If you're going to abuse someone the spelling and grammar should be spot on. I consider this to be a sport and while I'm not the greatest I do have my moments.

OK, I concur.

But I've had more sport shooting the rats at the dump - and THEY never quibled over my spelling.

[peasea]

OK, I concur.

But I've had more sport shooting the rats at the dump - and THEY never quibled over my spelling.


Which dump was that? Wellington Central?
I've come across a few rats there in my time.

[smoky]

Hi RM,
No offence but you sound like you are whining and your spelling and grammar are not good.
Just state the facts, plead guilty and ask for the court to go easy on you. KISS principle applies. (keep it simple stupid)

Eg:
In regard to Infringement notice 123123123
Charge: exceeding speed limit of 100kmh.
I am writing to plead guilty to the charge of exceeding the speed limit of 100 kilometers per hour on the date.
I have no suitable excuse or reason for my actions and accept that I was completely in the wrong.
In deciding on my punishment I would greatly appreciate the court considering the following points.
1. The officer who issued the ticket acknowledged that I was not presenting any danger to anyone other than myself.
2. I have already lost my licence for the mandatory 28 days.
3. The road conditions were dry and clear, traffic was very light.
4. I have cooperated at all times with the police.
5. I have learned my lesson and will at all times in future ride to the legal limits and conditions.

Thanking you in advance
Yours sincerely
Dickheadonabike.


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Or something like that, good luck anyway

What he said - they wont bother reading your original letter - it's too long and sucky

[ceebie13]

Aaah, nice one guys. Entertainment galore reading this thread. Sometimes I browse through KB and think: What a load of crap I've wasted the last hour reading. This thread falls into that category, however, it's made me laugh, so it hasn't been completely pointless.

If I was Hitcher, I'd probably have come up with some succinct and painfully smart barb concerning the "grammar" that was in that letter. Alas, I am not. So I will refrain from commenting on the 17 remaining grammatical 'gems' contained in the letter.

C'mon Hitcher, do your stuff.


Hitcher is currently away weeping and banging his head against a brick wall ...not only at the grammatical and spelling errors produced here before us, but also at the fact that some of those who chose to help our dear friend with his letter were equally as guilty of incorrect use of the English language. Mind you, they do say, "Those who can't do it, teach it."

A crackin' good read though nonetheless! :yes:

[Hitcher]

Hitcher has, until now, refrained from this thread. The Officer of the Court responsible for dealing with this letter should immediately recognise its intent. No doubt they will be well familiar with this genre of correspondence, written by toadying disingenuous fops, and treat it appropriately. Whether the spelling and grammar is "correct" should matter not a jot.

[Patrick]

e979 is the offence code.
drg304 is the qid of the cop
crn is the offence number - Court Record Number. that is the number you quote in correspondence to the court

I know this cop... he is a good bugger too.. very thorough too, sorry to say... He is a Sergeant now...