Oh the horror!

[sunhuntin]

been seeing a home painted blu sprotsbike in town for about the last month. nice shade of blue, pretty nice looking [for a sportsbike!] looks, sizewise, to be a 250 or less. only down side was he seems to ride a bit over the speed limit. [which i also do]

tonight, at work, it got worse. we get quite a few bikes going by, and most of them whip around the corner, and then gun it up the long straight. anyway, he goes flying by tonight with a pillion...mr pillion had no helmet! [and nearly assed off the back with the sudden acceleration]
time goes by, and eventually, mr blue bike comes in for gas. i was annoyed with the pillion having no lid, and want to report him, so when the bike itself comes in, i start looking shrewdly for the license details. hmmmmm... its not on the back. its not on the left side. not on the right. ok... rego and warrent? nada there as well!
as above, the bike is home painted, and has no make, model or cc rating anywhere on the body.

how the hell do i report a bike with no identification?? i want this guy off the road, because, quite frankly, with his actions, hell be turning a few cagers against bikes pretty quick!

im surprised he hasnt been nabbed yet. hes not exactly hard to miss, and cops are pretty plentiful here.

[Colapop]

Report what you know. Tell the coppers all that you can or cannot see. They might have had other reports of the same guy.

You got security cams on site? Coz it'll be on the footage.

[Disco Dan]

I would have walked straight upto them both..

"gee nice bike you have there, what is it?" etc etc

pull out your phone and take a photo... "really like these things ay" etc etc


Ring plods....

*easy peasy*

[Grub]

Good girl excellent spot ... get the bastard off the road. The bike is prolly stolen ... maybe from one of our own. I believe the cops will be very interested in your story. I would ring them and copy/paste the details you posted here in a email to them.

Oh ... and here's a good-biker-citizen bling

[Colapop]

I would have walked straight upto them both..

"gee nice bike you have there, what is it?" etc etc

pull out your phone and take a photo... "really like these things ay" etc etc


Ring plods....

*easy peasy*
No you wouldn't! You'd be in the corner (again) hoping they don't notice you... :shutup:

[sunhuntin]

disco...no cell phone, and not allowed them on the forecourt. good idea though!

frosty...i might go into the cop shop on monday. itll be on cam, but im not sure how clear, and only a couple of staff know how to get at it. we get the police at work filling. likely as not well get one in tomorrow, so ill write it down and pass it on. if none come in, ill take it to the station.

cheers grub. :scooter: was a bit of a shock seeing someone go past with no helmet. same with the place. dont think there were even any brackets for it, so hasnt "fallen off"

[Waylander]

No you wouldn't! You'd be in the corner (again) hoping they don't notice you... :shutup:
I imagine you would give them a great big bear hug till the boys in blue arrived aye?

[Disco Dan]

No you wouldn't! You'd be in the corner (again) hoping they don't notice you... :shutup:

what? what you on about?

[Colapop]

Go and sit in the corner...

[nadroj]

Did they pay cash or Eftpos? A name on the card?

[Wasp]

disco...no cell phone, and not allowed them on the forecourt. good idea though!
BAAAABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

dunno sunhuntin, you could always just wait for natural selection......

[sunhuntin]

true wasp... but knowing how that works, itll be a pedestrian that gets killed.

mr blue bike and mr no lid returned today [pushing this time] home made cardboard "plate" on the back, with attached rego [couldnt get close enough to check it matched] did see it read cbr250.
nadroj not sure how he paid yesterday, but today it was cash at the pump. [i try and stay outside, hence not knowing how he paid]

before they came, i had an officer come in for gas, so i asked him about it, and was advised to ring next time i saw them.

once they had left [mr no lid playing pillion] i hid out in the office and reported them.
they are both young enough to assume no higher license than a restricted at best.
gave all known details to the guy at the station, and i hope they catch him.

[Macktheknife]

Dumb shits! you could always refuse them service if you felt like it, might be more hassle than its worth though.

[Babelfish]

NExt time they are in offer to fill the bike while they go inside and stick diesel in the fucker :crazy:

[Waylander]

NExt time they are in offer to fill the bike while they go inside and stick diesel in the fucker :crazy:
You would dammage an innocent bike because the owner is a fuckwit?

[Babelfish]

hmmm, house painted bike, sounds a piece of crap, and probably not so innocent...i've seen Christine, this is probably the bike version...although I take your point.....ok, take the bike inside and fill the owner with diesel

[sunhuntin]

hmmm, house painted bike, sounds a piece of crap, and probably not so innocent...i've seen Christine, this is probably the bike version...although I take your point.....ok, take the bike inside and fill the owner with diesel

pmsl...now thats a good idea!! LOL offer him a smoke when im done!

[davereid]

Do nothing.

As far as I can see, the only thing he did that endangered innocent people was a bit of speeding.

Everything else involved consenting adults so its none of your business.

Live and let live.
:rockon:

[sunhuntin]

Do nothing.

As far as I can see, the only thing he did that endangered innocent people was a bit of speeding.

Everything else involved consenting adults so its none of your business.

Live and let live.
:rockon:

hes making bikers as a whole look bad. i will get involved [and have] because he needs to be taken off the road.
kids here dont wear helmets on push bikes as it is, without this "big awesome biker" making it worse.
dunno about else where in this country, but bikes are big news here. i know mine gets a lot of attention. we dont need tossers like this guy glorifying breaking the law in a 100 different ways.

[placidfemme]

been seeing a home painted blu sprotsbike in town for about the last month. nice shade of blue, pretty nice looking [for a sportsbike!] looks, sizewise, to be a 250 or less. only down side was he seems to ride a bit over the speed limit. [which i also do]

tonight, at work, it got worse. we get quite a few bikes going by, and most of them whip around the corner, and then gun it up the long straight. anyway, he goes flying by tonight with a pillion...mr pillion had no helmet! [and nearly assed off the back with the sudden acceleration]
time goes by, and eventually, mr blue bike comes in for gas. i was annoyed with the pillion having no lid, and want to report him, so when the bike itself comes in, i start looking shrewdly for the license details. hmmmmm... its not on the back. its not on the left side. not on the right. ok... rego and warrent? nada there as well!
as above, the bike is home painted, and has no make, model or cc rating anywhere on the body.

how the hell do i report a bike with no identification?? i want this guy off the road, because, quite frankly, with his actions, hell be turning a few cagers against bikes pretty quick!

im surprised he hasnt been nabbed yet. hes not exactly hard to miss, and cops are pretty plentiful here.

No WOF... No Rego... No helmet...

The dumb will eliminate themselves...

[XP@]

disco...no cell phone, and not allowed them on the forecourt. good idea though!

Urrr... why not??

Have you ever tried to ignite petrol vapors with your cell phone?
The easiest way is to set fire to the phone and chuck it in your tank.

Another way, and more probably the most common way your phone will cause your tank to go boom is by going to get it from inside the car, building up a static charge and discharging when you touch the nozzle.

[sunhuntin]

Urrr... why not??

Have you ever tried to ignite petrol vapors with your cell phone?
The easiest way is to set fire to the phone and chuck it in your tank.

Another way, and more probably the most common way your phone will cause your tank to go boom is by going to get it from inside the car, building up a static charge and discharging when you touch the nozzle.

cos the signs on the pillar say so. lol. im not willing to risk it. ive seen a guy in the middle of my forecourt light a cigarette [was inside, so couldnt stop him] nothing exploded, but the signs also say no smoking.

id rather die on my bike than through someones stupidity causing an explosion.

[davereid]

hes making bikers as a whole look bad. i will get involved [and have] because he needs to be taken off the road.
kids here dont wear helmets on push bikes as it is, without this "big awesome biker" making it worse.
dunno about else where in this country, but bikes are big news here. i know mine gets a lot of attention. we dont need tossers like this guy glorifying breaking the law in a 100 different ways.

I think that like lots of kiwis you are genuinely concerned about other people and you are to be commended for that. Its actually a very kiwi thing, for some reason we just can't help but stick our (caring) nose in other peoples business.

But it IS other peoples business.

Strangely enough, you admit speeding. Thats breaking the law, but not only that, when you speed, you endanger not only yourself, but innocent people as well - the child who runs in front of you, the old lady with the walking frame who cant here you coming, or the pedestrian who steps on a crossing thinking you are at the legal speed limit.

Yet you seem horrified at the though that someone might ride without a helmet. Hmm yet that only endangers themselves.

I can't work that one out.

[KLOWN]

Urrr... why not??

Have you ever tried to ignite petrol vapors with your cell phone?
The easiest way is to set fire to the phone and chuck it in your tank.

Another way, and more probably the most common way your phone will cause your tank to go boom is by going to get it from inside the car, building up a static charge and discharging when you touch the nozzle.

You see that episode of mythbusters ? not that they are the be all and end all but try as they might they just couldn't get a cellphone to ignite petrol vapor.

[sunhuntin]

I think that like lots of kiwis you are genuinely concerned about other people and you are to be commended for that. Its actually a very kiwi thing, for some reason we just can't help but stick our (caring) nose in other peoples business.

But it IS other peoples business.

Strangely enough, you admit speeding. Thats breaking the law, but not only that, when you speed, you endanger not only yourself, but innocent people as well - the child who runs in front of you, the old lady with the walking frame who cant here you coming, or the pedestrian who steps on a crossing thinking you are at the legal speed limit.

Yet you seem horrified at the though that someone might ride without a helmet. Hmm yet that only endangers themselves.

I can't work that one out.

yes, i admit to speeding. but not in spots where theres likely to be any kids or old biddies walking out. [heading into 80/100k zones] and i dont speed past schools, or near schools, crossings, intersections etc. this guy ive only ever seen doing over 50k...pretty sure he was doing 70 the first time i saw him on saturday. had it been friday, there would have been kids everywhere. even on weekends, theres kids, cos there are a lot in the neighbourhood. 45k MAX past schools, and i almost always get tailgated.

the way darwin works, the dipstick with no helmet is likely to also injure someone else when he wrecks. and as noted, its the actions of idiots [lane splitting at a much higher speed, knocking off wing mirrors etc] that bite every other one of us in the ass. i have no desire to have shitty people lumping me in the same pile.

[The Pastor]

disco...no cell phone, and not allowed them on the forecourt. good idea though!



BAAAABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

dunno sunhuntin, you could always just wait for natural selection......


You guys don't actually belive that do you? Its a complete load of bullshit, Ive made doesn of phone calls on forecourts at gas statation, even when pulling the pump from the car, Its complete bollox.


No WOF... No Rego... No helmet...

The dumb will eliminate themselves...

The wof + rego could be he couldnt afford one, not having a wof + rego doesnt indicate either the road worthiness of the vehical or the intelligence of the owner. Nor does it increase the likelyness of an acident. Same goes for the helmet, wasnt that long ago when it was normal to not wear a helmet.

Sorry but it sounds like you need to get a life.



p.s i'd still report him if I thought it was a stolen bike, which it could be OR it could be ghost rider on a holiday.

[Wasp]

You guys don't actually belive that do you? Its a complete load of bullshit, Ive made doesn of phone calls on forecourts at gas statation, even when pulling the pump from the car, Its complete bollox.
Nope I dont, even seen the mythbusters episode where they try it

I check the time on my cell most times i go back to the forcourt after paying, even waved it threateningly at an attendant once :rofl:

[sunhuntin]

The wof + rego could be he couldnt afford one, not having a wof + rego doesnt indicate either the road worthiness of the vehical or the intelligence of the owner. Nor does it increase the likelyness of an acident. Same goes for the helmet, wasnt that long ago when it was normal to not wear a helmet.

Sorry but it sounds like you need to get a life.

p.s i'd still report him if I thought it was a stolen bike, which it could be OR it could be ghost rider on a holiday.

bike could well be stolen, considering its badly repainted. and what about no license plate? if he cant afford the warrent and rego, he shouldnt have a bike. and he sure as hell shouldnt be taking pillions. specially with no helmet. it may have been fine 20 years ago to not wear one, but the traffic numbers has increased 10-fold.

what if these boys were your son and a friend? would you be so carefree about it then? these two may be idiots...still dont mean they should die. they are tempting fate.

[The Pastor]

bike could well be stolen, considering its badly repainted. and what about no license plate? if he cant afford the warrent and rego, he shouldnt have a bike. and he sure as hell shouldnt be taking pillions. specially with no helmet. it may have been fine 20 years ago to not wear one, but the traffic numbers has increased 10-fold.

what if these boys were your son and a friend? would you be so carefree about it then? these two may be idiots...still dont mean they should die. they are tempting fate.

I Don't wear helmets and Im ok. Go force your ideals on somone else.

[avgas]

I Don't wear helmets and Im ok.
Ha, its shows!!! *pt*

[Balding Eagle]

Renegade - The fact that you don't wear a helmet might well have an effect on me. If you crash and your injury is more severe because of the lack of head protection, your hospital bill will be significantly higher. And so your irresponsibility will use up extra tax that I have paid. I guess that I would then be pleased if your injury was instantly terminal. Like some others on this thread, I strongly believe in personal responsibility. The only way I can accept your actions is if you are prepared to pay for all medical costs that result from your injury. I suspect that this is not the case.

[mstriumph]

a ..................... And so your irresponsibility will use up extra tax that I have paid. I guess that I would then be pleased if your injury was instantly terminal. Like some others on this thread, I strongly believe in personal responsibility. The only way I can accept your actions is if you are prepared to pay for all medical costs that result from your injury. I suspect that this is not the case.

sorry
sounds profound but won't wash unless you have a similar rant about people that smoke, people that drink, people that skydive or jaywalk or mountainclimb or have unprotected sex - or - or - or ...................................... you wish ALL of those folks 'terminal' you'd empty the planet quick smart!

[davereid]

...If you crash and your injury is more severe because of the lack of head protection, your hospital bill will be significantly higher. And so your irresponsibility will use up extra tax that I have paid...

This is the "best practice argument", and it makes good sense.

Its the same arguement that will be used to ban motorcycles altogether.

Because.. motorcycles

Are inherently unstable... offer poor collision protection... have excessive power to weight ratios... require a higher skill level than other vehicles.. are hard to see... crash if even a single wheel loses traction..

"best practise" applied to personal transport means a Volvo.

[Balding Eagle]

sorry
sounds profound but won't wash unless you have a similar rant about people that smoke, people that drink, people that skydive or jaywalk or mountainclimb or have unprotected sex - or - or - or ...................................... you wish ALL of those folks 'terminal' you'd empty the planet quick smart!

I do have the same attitude to all those issues but I would be chastised by the moderators for not sticking to the thread. I have never smoked (well not quite right but pretty close-I have never purchased my own on a regular basis and certainly not consumed for the last 30 years), I drink and accept the consequences have skydived, jaywalked etc etc and hate nanny state. Do I take it from your comment that you support the action of the subject rider?

[Sanx]

Strangely enough, you admit speeding. Thats breaking the law, but not only that, when you speed, you endanger not only yourself, but innocent people as well - the child who runs in front of you, the old lady with the walking frame who cant here you coming, or the pedestrian who steps on a crossing thinking you are at the legal speed limit.

Moe the bartender: Oh, won't someone think of the children!.

You managed ickle kiddie-winks and kindly grannies. See if you can link speeding to global warming, the plight of the whales and the Islamist militia masscre of animists in Darfur.

[speeding_ant]

Here's my opinion on the matter:

Riding without a helmet is just plain stupid, but its up to that person to wear it or not. They will get their just desserts.

Riding dangerously fast with a pillion on the back with no helmet on shows a severe lack of personal responsibility and brain cells. The bike isnt registered at all, has no WOF (is it safe? Will it kill an innocent biker on the road when the brakes fail?). That biker does not deserve to ride anything more than a 3rd olds tricycle.

Hopefully they get caught, and the bike gets impounded then sold off to someone who actually is responsible/has a brain. Or given back to its rightful owner.... :mellow:

Good on you for reporting it, I would have done the same thing.

Oh, and posting with one hand really bites.. :sweatdrop

[mstriumph]

.................... Do I take it from your comment that you support the action of the subject rider?

Me? I think we are over-legislated to hell and back..

Me? I wonder why governments are so busy introducing pieces of daft and unenforcable 'thou shalt nots' like the anti-smacking bill that they don't have time to deal with the fundemental problems facing our society

Me? I think it's time that governments stopped treating citizens like kids and treated them with the respect due to those that pay their over-inflated salaries and perks

Me? I wear protective gear by choice - renegade master chooses not to .. we are BOTH consenting adults and, unless and until such time as ALL less safe lifestyle-choices are made illegal then HIS personal choice of headgear should be as legally-valid as mine.

because for me this isn't about helmet/no helmet - it's a civil liberty issue .........

and Me? I happen to think that the government is taking increasingly diabolical liberties with the rest of us in that area!
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Or am i to infer from YOUR comment that you appreciate being increasingly 'nannied' by a bunch of uncaring fools that can't get their priorities straight?? :mellow:

[Balding Eagle]

In that case, in reality, we agree.