Two Smoker has been Knocked of his bike.... sort of...

[Two Smoker]

Het everyone,

I got hit from behind on the bike yesterday.....

Going along the south eastern highway, , DOING THE SPEED LIMIT (i was shocked myself :eek5: ) and just riding with the traffic.... Come upto the corner, to find a Mitsubishi Magna about 10cm's off my arse, i freaked (another thing i dont normally do) and the braked, this dumb fuck was so close he hit me at about 50kmh. :angry2:

I didnt fall off, and i was furious :angry2: .... Then he had the nerve to say it was all my fault and that is was SO dangerous how i was sitting on the tank (personally i think sitting on the tank is like driving one handed) and so he said right im calling the cops, and i said "To fucking right you should call the cops....."

Cops never came, and i had a seriously bent exhaust and cracked mud gaurd (very minor) but his car front was badly smashed (hehehe serve the fucker right) so now i have to wait for the insurance to open on monday and the call from the cops as he said he was going to go see them (i was thinking that they will just tell him he is at fault, unless they do me for braking.....)

But the bike is still rideable so i might still go for a ride lol......

[toads]

Het everyone,

I got hit from behind on the bike yesterday.....

Going along the south eastern highway, sitting on the tank to stretch my legs (im 6 foot tall and the RG150 aint no big bike) , DOING THE SPEED LIMIT (i was shocked myself :eek5: ) and just riding with the traffic.... Come upto the corner, hop off the tank onto the seat to find a Mitsubishi Magna about 10cm's off my arse, i freaked (another thing i dont normally do) and the braked, this dumb fuck was so close he hit me at about 50kmh. :angry2:

I didnt fall off, and i was furious :angry2: .... Then he had the nerve to say it was all my fault and that is was SO dangerous how i was sitting on the tank (personally i think sitting on the tank is like driving one handed) and so he said right im calling the cops, and i said "To fucking right you should call the cops....."

Cops never came, and i had a seriously bent exhaust and cracked mud gaurd (very minor) but his car front was badly smashed (hehehe serve the fucker right) so now i have to wait for the insurance to open on monday and the call from the cops as he said he was going to go see them (i was thinking that they will just tell him he is at fault, unless they do me for braking.....)

But the bike is still rideable so i might still go for a ride lol......

Now waits for all the other people to tell me how dangerous sitting on the tank is......

no matter what the other guy is is the wrong, he obviously was following too close, thankfully you were unhurt, if you had come off your bike he would have run you over!!, he certainly should be prosecuted for dangerous driving, sitting on the tank has nothing to do with it, if your legs are that long, it really makes little difference to handling the bike in my opinion.

[Zapf]

yea. don't even mention that u were sitting in any strange position. Just say and confirm that he hit you from behind, not observing the 2 sec rule, following dangrously close and driving like an idiot! There is usually not a chance in hell on getting off hitting someone in front of you, cause the road code says that you must be able to stop in 1/2 the clear distance.

Oh and didn't you felt your head being nuged by that car? Time to get a new helmet to replace the DAMAGED one don't you think?

If he doesn't admitt libility. Go to the cops and lay a complain, in turn they should charge him & u can go to court.

[Motoracer]

What a fuken tosser!!! :mad: It wasn't your fault. At the time of impact, you were riding your motorcycle while sitting on the seat so what the fuck does it matter if that tosser reckons sitting on the tank is dangerous or not.

I hope he gets a nice big fine and his insurance company then covers for all of your damange.

Good luck man! :niceone:

[Skunk]

From my 'experiences' the driver behind is at fault - if you braked or not...
If you get a good cop they could lay dangerous driving charges (like they did for me).

[k14]

Don't worry, the other guy will hopefully get done for failing to stop. Which is something like a $400 fine and 25 demerits. Serves that bastard right, think you said your dad is a cop so I'm sure you know this already.

His insurance will pay for your $1000 Arrow race pipes to get replaced :msn-wink:

[KATWYN]

You gotta love those tailgaters....not. And then for the
guy to say it was YOUR fault! what a foolish man.

[James Deuce]

I hate that!!.

Glad you're OK though. Admit nothing. Stick with the facts about the inter-vehicular interaction.

[spudchucka]

I'm having trouble visualising you sitting on the tank, was this while you were riding or were you stationary?

Anyway, forget that, if the guy has hit you from behind it is his fault. You should report it to the cops yourself because you are the victim here and you don't know what sort of BS story he might make up to cover his arse. Were there any witnesses?

[dangerous]

All above advice is good, say nothing to the cops about sitting on the tank, if they mention it then say 'I dont think so thats stupid' So go to the cops cos that wank will be telling a different story as he's well in the wrong even if you through both anchors out as hard as you could.

I had a similer thing happen the last time I was out on the bike were a van was following me SO close that he nudged me I tried going to the left so did he same if I went to the right..... I was too worried about staying alive that I dident get his #plate but I do remember the sign writing on the van and Chch isent a big place.............. and I have a bloody good memory :mad:

TS be sure to make it as hard as you can for the prick that inserdent could have ended up with very different results..... your lucky.

[Jackrat]

Dosn't matter if you were standing on your head, he ran up the back of you,he pays!!!!
It seems to be becoming more popular today to try useing the stupidity of others to justify stupidity in ourselfs.
Not that I even think you sitting on your tank is dangerous,
But this FW seemed to think it gave him the right to fuck up and blame you.
Bastards clutching at straws :mad:
Hope ya' get some satisfaction in the end.

[Ms Piggy]

He was definitely following too close, no 2 ways about it! He should be far enough away to stop without hitting you! :mad:

Glad you're ok. :niceone:

[Storm]

Good to see you are still intact. Do him like a dog for being such an arrogant prick, and hit him where it hurts- right in the wallet ! :kick:

[FROSTY]

TS -1 Go to the cops NOW -report the accident. No mention of your riding position.Do discuss how close behind you he was
2) remove mention of your riding position from ANY publicly accessable media
3) Do Not discuss your riding position again

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

[Indiana_Jones]

He was following too close, he's in the wrong. Sorry about your ride mate, but ur ok, no. 1 :niceone:

My Fixxer windscreen is fucked, I wonder if I could make it naked ? :D

-Indy

[wkid_one]

Mate - it says nothing in the road code about where you must sit to ride the bike. I would have hit the prick and not let him leave until the cops arrived.

If he was soooooo concerned about how you were riding the bike - and felt it was unsafe - why the fuck did he try and watch you doing it from your pillion seat - the fucker should have backed off it he was that concerned!

[Mongoose]

What a lucky break, in that it could have been so much worse for you!!
I would go to the cops as I doubt this guy will once he works out who was at fault. Make it so much eaasier to get the insurance money out of him if you go.

[Paul in NZ]

Report it to the police.

Report it to the insurance company

Be honest, you did nothing wrong.

Gather as much OBJECTIVE evidence as you can (witness, photos whatever)

Ask Spank Me to remove this thread and DO NOT post back here bragging how you nailed him even if you do... You don't want to be see a profitting from his misfortune. (even if he is in the wrong)

Cheers

[Posh Tourer :P]

I dont see how riding position has anything to do with it. If you can prove that you were doing the speed limit and braked without being dangerous, he should get done. As you were on the seat when hit, it is no problem

You might also get a fine/warning for ridin the way you did though.

[Posh Tourer :P]

I have had a similar experience stopping for an orange light. Fortunately I was watching and when he locked up the brakes I let off mine and didnt stop in time for the intersection. Then he had the nerve to toot at me.

[Hitcher]

Het everyone,

I got hit from behind on the bike yesterday...
Woo hoo! A Liberace!!

[FROSTY]

What is wrong with just extending the leg or sitting further back... sounds like wank factor to me :whistle:
And YOU want to be responsible for TS -even though he's the innocent victim getting prosecuted for careless use ?
Also If there is a question as to him usung all possible care his insurance company can drag the chain doing a payout.
Don't say No they can't --they look for any excuse not to pay out on a claim.

[Two Smoker]

What is wrong with just extending the leg or sitting further back... sounds like wank factor to me :whistle:
one its a sports bike, im already leaning over the tank to reach the bars, so how the fuck am i going to reach them from the back seat cofortably???

two, how can i push my legs forward when im almost folded in half already???? and it would be a strain on my legs to hold them infront oof me anyway......

This time wasnt for wank factor but i honestly needed to stratch my legs.....

And what would you know PT on your overweight hunk of slow german engineering that is supposed to be good but really, is boring as hell :lol: :D :bleh: LOL
Note original post has been edited....

[Sensei]

Hey 2smoker you mean to say that you didn't have your knee on the road as you where riding along this time . Good to hear you are still up & running Sensei :2thumbsup

[Two Smoker]

Hey 2smoker you mean to say that you didn't have your knee on the road as you where riding along this time . Good to hear you are still up & running Sensei :2thumbsup
LOL, nah mate....... Cheers for the comments everyone, filing the insurance claim tomorrow, so hopefully i will get a new arrow slip on can hehehe..... Went on a awesome ride today with Death, Draco, LooseBruce, Zapf, Vagabond and Paparazzi...... Absolutely bone dry roads for most of the way and i had a ball, was feeling quick (doesnt mean i was quick) it must of been my new racing exhaust style ive got going from the crash lol..... So that all made me feel shit loads better :niceone:

[SPman]

Isnt there something in the road code about "following at a distance where you can stop in half the clear distance ahead"!
That would fuck about 90% of the drivers on the roads !

[loosebruce]

sure was a cheap way for an up swept muffler, those things can take some abuse, bith it down the road a few times get hit by a car which bends it upright (seriously its upright) and it still sounds the same and goes the same, just as well the RG don't backfire lots, it'd toast your arse.
At what i know any driver/rider who rear ends another veichle is in the wrong regardless of the situation.
Didn't he smash up your carbon fibre race fairings and crack your carbon rear wheel in the impact????

[Bob]

From what you have said, the other guy is 100% in the wrong (you braked - could have been any number of reasons for that). He was sitting way too close. I'm pretty sure that in almost any situation, the person in charge of the trailing vehicle will always take the rap for driving too close in this sort of incident.

Sounds to me like he was trying a trick like a taxi driver did to me when he drove the "pretty way" round a roundabout... and right in front of my path. When I got up, he asked if I was OK, then said "Well that was a 50/50 wasn't it?" - if I had agreed in my confused state, I would have lost any right to claim against his insurance. As it was, I got my policy excess back, plus a new helmet and gloves.

By accusing you of doing something wrong, if you had agreed, then he would have mitigating evidence when it comes to insurance claim time.

As others have said, get that report in to the police - and fast! Hope the following is of assistance... it is a checklist that I drew up in conjunction with a guy called Tony Carter, an ex-policeman who is now a professional accident investigator.

Get as much of this down, then when you fill in any police forms, insurance forms etc, refer back to it. That way, you make sure you say the same thing every time.

Time, date and location of accident:


Conditions:


Registration number, make, model and colour of the other vehicle:


Tax Disc valid? Y/N:


Name and address of the other driver:


Other driver’s insurance details (required for injury RTA cases only – if damage only, then no legal obligation to exchange insurance details):


Name and address of Witness 1:


Name and address of Witness 2:


Name and address of Witness 3:


Injury details for you


Injury details for any others involved


Vehicle damage to your bike:


Vehicle damage to other vehicles:


Property damage incuding house numbers


Name, rank, collar number and station (and/or police force) of Police officers called to scene:


Where were the vehicles recovered to?

How were the vehicles moved?

DRIVEN AWAY BY OWNER
RECOVERED BY GARAGE
ARRANGED BY POLICE
RECOVERED BY AA/RAC/OTHER RECOVERY COMPANY

Notes:

1. Time, date and location of accident. Location is always important as it reduces the possibility of a dispute arising later on, and it is easier for someone looking at the claim later on to pinpoint exactly where it occurred, so for example:

A4 200 yards west of the junction with the A340 at Theale, Nr Reading.

If there are any landmarks to pinpoint exactly, for example "outside No 26 Bath Road,
Theale" it makes it easier still to pinpoint the location.

2. Registration number, make, model and colour of other vehicle is good for identification purposes and as we know from time to time vehicles do use false plates or whatever. It may also be worth including a description of the driver.

3. Insurance details are only required in injury RTA cases. If it is damage only there is no legal obligation to exchange insurance details.

4. The VEL (Tax Disc) is not really relevant, other than it may give an indication as to whether the vehicle is insured or not. However, if the tax disc is not up to date (or missing), then it would be a good idea to get the police on the scene – if the tax disc is out of date, then what else is wrong? Is it a stolen car you’ve had a shunt with?

5. Name, Rank (Important) number and station (or Police force) of the attending officer together with a contact number is beneficial as it will allow for follow up enquiries later on, and will also give solicitors or insurance companies a follow up number later on when they start requesting copies of the police reports which can be obtained for a fee, usually about £60 a throw.

6. Where were the vehicles recovered to is potentially very relevant, as this prevents someone claiming that damage was more serious than perhaps it was in the event that they drove/rode the vehicle away, and if a problem arises in respect of the roadworthiness of the vehicle, it gives the opportunity for investigators and/or solicitors to make follow up enquiries with the garage, or in some cases arrange to carry out a vehicle examination which is becoming more of a frequent requirement.


If you can get photos of the scene and also draw a sketch of the incident (noting things like time, date, weather and road conditions), that will be useful as well.

Keep copies of everything - any reports, sketches, receipts for repairs... anything at all relevent to the incident and repair work you need done to the bike. Not to mention any of your kit that WILL have been compromised.

I feel sure that your boots will have been damaged when you saved the bike from going over... and maybe even your gloves and you aren't sure if your head got a bang, so you'll certainly have to replace your helmet...

(I wouldn't buy any of this stuff until the proof of liability goes your way... after that? Claim for the right to buy this stuff and see how it goes. You don't try, you don't get!)

[FzerozeroT]

he must have hit your rear wheel right don't forget that you need it x-rayed for possible hairline fractures, same sort of thing for rear tyre

[scroter]

been hit from behind before + wasnt ready for it + night time = 1 x written off bike + 1 x fractured shoulder blade + 4 weeks off work(not the holiday kind). to top this off the piss ant didnt bother stopping and of course because i was trying to save my own arse i couldnt even tell you if his taillights were working let alone make, model, rego etc. its probably good that he didnt stop else i wouldve pulled out my big ol can o whoop arse and ripped his head off and shit down his neck. just to make my day even worse when i finally go home, after a night in hospital, and rang the insurance co. as i had shifted house and forgot to change my address my policy had lapsed and i didnt know. yep wont do that again.

[カワサキキド]

[QUOTE=dangerous]
I had a similer thing happen the last time I was out on the bike were a van was following me SO close that he nudged me I tried going to the left so did he same if I went to the right..... I was too worried about staying alive that I dident get his #plate but I do remember the sign writing on the van and Chch isent a big place.............. and I have a bloody good memory :mad:
[QUOTE]
I'll keep and eye out for ya if you can give me a resonable desciption. :2guns: I haven't had one day which I havn't ridden since I bought my bikes (even in the snow), I'm bound to spot it sooner or later.

[FROSTY]

Guys I think you are Missing My point.
There is NO argument that the car driver hit TS and "caused" the accident
As in TS could have been doing a handstand on the bars and it would still have happened.
BUT Insurance companies look for any excuse to get out of paying out.
If TS's actions could have contributed to the accident they will do their best not to payout.
Also he could be prosecuted as a result of admitting to "careless" use of a motor vehicle.
As an example I had an accident years ago. -The other party was the "innocent" victim but got prosecuted on 3 counts by the police.
-carrying 6 passengers all unlicenced on a learner licence, No WOF and NO rego.
Their insurance company also refused to pay out.
For the record the accident was caused by diesel oil dropped on the road causing me to slide across the center line into the oncoming traffic

[Posh Tourer :P]

Guys I think you are Missing My point.
There is NO argument that the car driver hit TS and "caused" the accident
As in TS could have been doing a handstand on the bars and it would still have happened.
BUT Insurance companies look for any excuse to get out of paying out.
If TS's actions could have contributed to the accident they will do their best not to payout.
Also he could be prosecuted as a result of admitting to "careless" use of a motor vehicle.
As an example I had an accident years ago. -The other party was the "innocent" victim but got prosecuted on 3 counts by the police.
-carrying 6 passengers all unlicenced on a learner licence, No WOF and NO rego.
Their insurance company also refused to pay out.
For the record the accident was caused by diesel oil dropped on the road causing me to slide across the center line into the oncoming traffic

Of course their insurance didnt pay out - they weren't at fault. Isnt it supposed to be your insurance that pays out? Or did your insurance not cover their damage? If they had comprehensive, then they would get a payout, and the insurance would try get it out of you/your insurance. Are you saying that they didnt get paid out under these circumstances? If the insurance company did not got money in and then refused to pay it out then that is just criminal. If the insurance company refused to process the claim, then less so.

[Kwaka-Kid]

call me slow but i been away a while! and only just found this! Sorry to hear TS bro! hope it all works out though