Economic stature. WTF?

[Drew]

I thought I'd start a thread, asking why I should have to work outside of office hours.

I'm a self employed builder, and I cant start my next job untill the weekend, because the fuckin suit wearin types, dont think they should have to put up with a little bit of noise.

Why is my time worth less than these fucktards? If it's a case of economic stature, I'm more than happy to show them my tax return, which will surely make there pompous arses pucker up, and balls retreat into thier guts. I dont feel I make so much that I should have to work in place of spendin time with my children however. I often get filthy looks when I'm sitting in a cafe at smoko, and I'd dearly love to buy a taylor made suit, and have a sign on the back that reads, "Yep, taylor made, NOT LOOKIN DOWN YOUR FUCKIN NOSE NOW then are ya!"

So, to all KBers out there in thier air conditioned office, sittin on your chuffs, who believe the buzz of a concrete, (FROM A DIFFERENT FLOOR), drill is too much to cope with for a couple hours, GET BENT! YOU CAN ALL EAT MY EXCRIMENT AND DIE!!!

[ManDownUnder]

Pucker away.

It's going to suit either you, or them... how many others will it inconvenience by the way - you didn't mention that.

[James Deuce]

Fuck off, we're not all like that.

I LOVE to hear tradesmen working. They sure as fuck don't turn up to do stuff I've already paid them for. ( That was a dig, because you had one at me.)

Oddly enough I do understand. Many is the time where I've had to wait until after business hours to fix some self important prat's laptop, or restore data, or spend the whole night (you know it goes dark and then gets light again) on the phone, or on site setting up a new service because one fucker with a 6 figure salary can't bear to have one of the drones from sector 7G breathe the same air as him.

[Hitcher]

I love work. I could watch it for hours.

[bistard]

I do believe you have some "ANGER ISSUES" Mr Fizzer
And it would appear to run in the family,knowing Jimmy & reading some of his replies

[White trash]

I do believe you have some "ANGER ISSUES" Mr Fizzer
And it would appear to run in the family,knowing Jimmy & reading some of his replies
You wanna go, fucker?

[bistard]

You wanna go, fucker?

"The Prosecution rests its case"
Having a good day Jimmy??

[White trash]

Drew, in outstanding Mair fashion, you've gone waaay over the top. Again.

It's doubtfull it's the suits making the noise. I'm sure they'd love to say "Too noisey today, I'm off", it's the company. They have to pay you to do the job and don't want to ALSO lose hundreds of man hours by the loss of productivity for 15 people.

No one thinks they're better than you (except me), it's your choice to do what you do, if ya don't like it, make a change.

[Madness]

I'm on stress leave, been too busy filing expense claims for all day lunch meetings and it finally got to me. Hopefully I'll be right in time for a conference in New Caledonia next week.

Sorry, this probably isn't helping much.

[ManDownUnder]

Sure it's a pain in the arse to work through the night because sometimes it suits others, but that's the way the world turns. If you don't like it you can find another project or job to work on.

[Drum]

I smile when I see the suits strutting around looking pompous. I too used to wear a suit, drink coffee and tap away on my laptop in Ponsonby cafes.

I now earn more money, have less stress and enjoy life a lot more - but don't wear a suit.

Not all suits are prats. But many are.

[White trash]

"The Prosecution rests its case"
Having a good day Jimmy??
Mint mate, thanks for asking.

You?

[yungatart]

It is because you don't have a boss....you work for anyone who pays you, and they effectively own your time - so you have lots of bosses, ahhh.... the joys of self employment!

[bistard]

Mint mate, thanks for asking.

You?

Fucking Bored,but hey its time to go home now
I have a fridge calling my name!!
Bye

[avgas]

Stop making that damn swiss cheese sculpture!!!!!
Nah i know what you are talking about Fzrmn.
I used to have so much fun talking to pissed off people who lived on Park Hill rd.........................................NOT

[Macktheknife]

Jeezus Drew, calm down mate! You are taking this all a bit personally mate, don't you think?
Besides, generally speaking the suits might well be 'better than us', or at least they think so. lol
So what? let them have their delusions, just smile and walk away carrying as much of their money as you can.
Life is good, go for a ride.

[The Stranger]

Was it part of the conditions of contract?
If not you may well have grounds for a claim for loss of productivity, working out of hours and additional P&G.

[Motu]

If you really want to be slagged on KB you have to be a Bike shop or a WoF inspector - builders have got nothing to do with bikes.

Us AVI's love upseting people so much at one shop we used to have a prize for ''Bastard of the Day'' - for the guy who got a customer the most upset with a WoF failure.They are so see through it's funny.

Mind you,the shoe can be on the other foot.Today we had a site inspection from LTNZ and an AVI sitting a test.We got through the site inspection,but the AVI failed on some petty questions that have no relevance to the vehicles he will be inspecting.....we spent the rest of the afternoon talking about what a bastard the LTNZ guy was.

[Deano]

Can the 'suits' do their job while you're making a racket ? Can they talk on the phone while concrete is being drilled, cut etc ?

OSH regulations ? You can wear earmuffs but it's not practical for them when they answer phones. Alternative interim premises for their staff costs money - can you charge more for working outside of 'normal office hours' ?

Sorry to disagree but conversely why then is your job more important that theirs ? I agree that some staff complain about sweet FA.

Can they do their job effectively outside of office hours like you can ? Such as their business 'partners' only working during office hours.

End of the day, you are being contracted to do a job so 'they' get to dictate the working hours under the contract - your choice is to accept the contract or not - your choice.

Another consideration is the neighbour premises and noise regulations regarding their 'rights'. Do you meet the construction noise standards with regard to adjoining tenancies (office next door) ?

I don't think it's about being 'better' than you, but what is practicable for the people issuing the contract, and their staff requirements in order to do their jobs.

[RantyDave]

I'm a self employed builder, and I cant start my next job untill the weekend, because the fuckin suit wearin types, dont think they should have to put up with a little bit of noise.
Ahhhh yes, the psychology of people who work in offices ... one of my favourites.

In offices around the world, but particularly in Wellington (because that's where the government is) are people who have unimportant and rather simple jobs that, if the organisation they worked for was halfway efficient, would be actually completely unnecessary. They occupy their time with the following:

* Meetings.
* Flying other places for meetings.
* Organising meetings.
* Making sure everyone knows how vital their role is. Usually via a series of meetings.
* Making sure everyone knows what a just awesome and thoroughly valued professional they are. Best achieved with a series of important and "high level" ... meetings.

This last step carries with it several accoutrements familiar to those from an office environment: Laptops; Comfy chairs; Their own office; Corner offices; Business class travel; Parking spaces; Company credit cards. All these seek to reassure our office dweller that they are, in fact, a just awesome and thoroughly valued professional.

And this is where you come in. How can the just awesome and thoroughly valued professional possibly be expected to coordinate the joint strategies of the online, branding and demographic focus teams when some oik is using a fucking concrete drill two floors above them? Like, come on... they need an Aeron chair, a mahogony desk, and the absolute latest peecee or this work is simply not possible. They don't strategise themselves y'know.

So the reality is that while you could drill some concrete two floors up and our JAATVP would miss not one game of solitaire, the fact that you might be allowed to would be an affront to their JAATVP-ness. This in turn might draw attention to how they are perhaps not as good at their jobs as you might like, which might in turn draw attention to how they might not actually be necessary at all if we're being honest ... and all of a sudden unemployment or the teaching of Geography starts to loom. And that, clearly, cannot be allowed to happen.

Of course this tends to not affect people with actual skills ... builders, for instance ... or people who ride motorbikes very quickly up hills at the weekend ... because they have no need for reassurance. But it does create an understanding gap which, hopefully, I have helped close.

Dave (who has been working with Drum'n'bass in the background all day)

[Madness]

You still working Deano?

[Deano]

You still working Deano?

I'm on a course in Auckland - actually, in the vein of this thread, why the f**k should I have to get up at 5.00am to fly up here, and give up my social life each evening just so I can upskill to a necessary standard to do my 'suit type' office job. I miss my own bed and my pets, bike and wife.....in no particular order. hehe

I knew I should have got a 'trade'.

Hahahaha

[Madness]

I hate it when you have a 7am flight, get up at 5 to get there on time then the bastidges delay the flight by an hour. Business travel aint what it's stacked up to be, maybe it's just my Economic Stature?

[Ixion]

If you really want to be slagged on KB you have to be a Bike shop or a WoF inspector - builders have got nothing to do with bikes.

...


Hizbollah. I'm just waiting till the plodmembers see this

:jerry::jerry:

(Mind you, it appears that in Auckland all the non traffic ones DO work office hours only. At any rate there's no cop shops open outside office hours anymore)

[The_Dover]

No one thinks they're better than you (except me), it's your choice to do what you do, if ya don't like it, make a change.

I'm better than that scruffy prick.

And I wear a nice suit in my air conditioned office, thank you.

[The_Dover]

I'm on a course in Auckland - actually, in the vein of this thread, why the f**k should I have to get up at 5.00am to fly up here, and give up my social life each evening just so I can upskill to a necessary standard to do my 'suit type' office job. I miss my own bed and my pets, bike and wife.....in no particular order. hehe

I knew I should have got a 'trade'.

Hahahaha

Are you coming round to buy me beer Unkle Deano?

[White trash]

, why the f**k should I have to get up at 5.00am to fly up here, and give up my social life each evening just


Fuck ya then, wont come pick you up tonight.

[The Pastor]

Yeah the suits are basterds alright everything is controlled by the man, If he don't like it it don't happen. Stuff the man. Stuff you. Stuff lartays. Suff patatoes.


So what if I have a beer at work stuff working sober.




p.s Im a bus driver.

[Flatcap]

I thought I'd start a thread, asking why I should have to work outside of office hours.



You have to work outside office hours as you don't work in an office and you are self employed.

If you want to work office hours, get an office job and work for The Man - it's simple really.

[Drew]

I'm not contracted by the people in the floor above normally, and not this time either. The noise heard above is pretty quiet, less noisy than a neighbor with a fairly new lawnmower for instance.

I do understand the flip side of this coin, but it's not that bloody bad, but they are only inconvenienced for a couple hours if I'm drilling a large floor, and to me, to have to go in on a Saturday, means loosing time with my kids, who I only see every second week at the moment.

I miss my kids every minute they're not with me, which is why I am ranting like this.

[Mom]

to have to go in on a Saturday, means loosing time with my kids, who I only see every second week at the moment.

I miss my kids every minute they're not with me, which is why I am ranting like this.


Mate! I am the first person to agree with you regarding being dictated to about when you can work, I have been my own boss for many years, but you do have to earn money? I also hear you loud and clear about family time being precious, shit I wont give up a weekend very often even though my kids have mostly grown and flown, it is "my time" to spend with the person I love. I read you have your lovelies every second weekend, maybe choose a weekend you dont have them to do what has to be done.........or take them with you if it's only a couple of hours.

0.02

[rwh]

It's all about supply and demand and all that, isn't it? You're self-employed, so you get to set your charge-out rate. Just stick your weekend charges up until you get enough to compensate you, or you get to work during the week, or you lose the job to someone else ... that's what 'fair' means in todays market, right?

Richard

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Do you have ya drill saw going and talk on your cellphone at the same time?? For the jobs that require you to work outside "office hours" you just charge them more.

I would love to come to work in jeans, sneakers and T-shirt. But there is a dress code which I have to adhere to.

Nothing is stopping you wearing a suit to your job.

(All said with tongue in cheek).

[paturoa]

Your just jealous, go get a suit job.

[spookytooth]

for fucks sake drill the hole tell em to fuck off :) By the time they have finished bleating your finished making the racket.

[RantyDave]

means loosing time with my kids, who I only see every second week at the moment.

I miss my kids every minute they're not with me, which is why I am ranting like this.
That sucks. Can you not do the drilling next weekend? Friday evening?

Dave

[Timber020]

I have simular problems. When we spark up chippers or chainsaws near the CBD, we get complaints faster than a nazi salute at an RSA. Come to think of it we get complaints from people during the week, at weekends or late at night during storms when we are trying to keep the power on or roads open.

We are lucky that we can tell people politely at first that we arent fans of the noise either but its gotta be done. After that we wind em up a little, often they ask for a manager or supervisor or bosses number so I give them it. They get out there phone, make the call and generally dont see the funny side when my cell rings and I answer it infront of them with a goofy look on my face.

Sometimes in life you have to work to others schedule, plenty of hospitality workers live the life of vampires, lots of people doing screwed up shifts, suck it up man, we all have to do it, or not work.

[Drew]

OK, looks like it's just me that sees it as unfair, I'll suck it up and keep doin as I'm told.

Just to be clear, I dont get to choose my own jobs, and I dont get to tell people to fuck off. Although I'm a contractor, it is almost like labour only work, except I'm paid on what I build, rather than the hours. Ergo, we go to the jobs we're given, sometimes we can say the rate is too low, but mostly it's take it or do nothing.

[doc]

I bet you started this thread cos you hit your thumb. Police were called because of the abusive language, by them upstairs no less .Police arrived, it still hurt, they pepper sprayed you, cos you were uncoperative, this made you violent now you have a heart condiition because of the taser. You are now off work.. Bugga me your ACC payments don't cover your living expences. Because you are another scum sucking, bottom feeding ,self employed tax avoiding toy rich income poor Levy avoiding prick who neglected to pay his way with the ACC.
Oh Dear How Sad Never mind.
Did you enjoy your day at the track on your new bike.

[limbimtimwim]

I know a few suit types who think their job is the centre of the universe, and act like it. I'll blow hours on some shitty task involving their fucking email or stupid fuck pictures of something that frankly don't matter in the scheme of things (And by scheme of things I mean I making the company actually tick over).

My coping mechanism is simple: I console myself in the fact that I never kissed one arse, deceived, was born into a privileged position or relied on someones else's talent to do my job. And I have lots outside of work to be happy about. I'm the one with the house with the most coveted address in town, the fucking cool motorbikes, the great girlfriend, a purely educational (not vocational) university education, the adventures and fun on the weekends and moderate debt levels. They, quite frankly, don't have a hell of a lot to be a happy about and are in fact the loosers, not winners in this world.

I'm sure you can come up with a list of things to be happy about that makes those desk jockeys look pathetic in comparison to yourself so you can remind yourself that those foolish neckties working die soulless and incomplete. You on the other hand can sit back on your deathbed and pass away happy that you had a fucking good time when you were not drilling floors.

I'm up at this hour because somebody bought me coffee no.2 and I can't sleep for all the peeing and caffeine.

[cowpoos]

I'm up at this hour because somebody bought me coffee no.2 and I can't sleep for all the peeing and caffeine.


buggar.....cold ride?

[Drew]

I bet you started this thread cos you hit your thumb. Police were called because of the abusive language, by them upstairs no less .Police arrived, it still hurt, they pepper sprayed you, cos you were uncoperative, this made you violent now you have a heart condiition because of the taser. You are now off work.. Bugga me your ACC payments don't cover your living expences. Because you are another scum sucking, bottom feeding ,self employed tax avoiding toy rich income poor Levy avoiding prick who neglected to pay his way with the ACC.
Oh Dear How Sad Never mind.
Did you enjoy your day at the track on your new bike.

That's me alright, except for all the stuff about me that is.

[cowpoos]

That's me alright, except for all the stuff about me that is.
how was darts last night FIZZERMAN? ;)

[XP@]

That is what MP3 players and headphones are for. If the noise can't be drowned out with them then it is probably a bit too loud for day time, I may catty ear plugs but my colleagues don't.

My only recent gripe was with the tosser painter who was working next door yesterday who thought he could get away with smoking in the office.

[Swoop]

If the suits have a problem with using power tools and making a noise, the alternative is using handtools, that make far less noise.

The job will take 5 times longer to complete however, but we wouldn't be worried about that because the hourly rate will remain the same during that time...........

Charge them heaps!

[mikey]

office bitchesssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Madness]

office bitchesssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come and mow my lawn for a dollar.

[doc]

That's me alright, except for all the stuff about me that is.
I have a "Cunning plan" suggestion. How about leaving out sealant, and using untreated timber on outside supports. By the time the suits find out about it you will be long gone. They will probably have been made redundant too, if your lucky.

[The Pastor]

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white, and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
They point the cannon right at you

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, dont they help themselves
But when the tax man comes to the door,
Lord the house looks like a rummage sale

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
Ooh, they send you down to war
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
They only answer "More! More! More!"

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no military son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

[SPman]

But there is a dress code which I have to adhere to.

I think I've got one of those (no - not a dress) - but I ignore it!

I'm a scruffy bastard! - must be all those years of building and ignoring suits!

[mikey]

Can the 'suits' do their job while you're making a racket ? Can they talk on the phone while concrete is being drilled, cut etc ?
concrete drill goes into slab 100mm at most with a bit 6mm at its THISCKEST point, it makes a little thud thud thud noise not a big waaaaaaaaarrrrrrcrunch crunchwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr from concrete cutting or heavy drilling, which doesnt happen very frequently.
i talk on my phone on the same floor when people are drilling into the slab to hang wires off, so no problems with office bitches up stairs not being able to hear the more commonly than not, NON WORK RELATED SHIT THERE BLABBERING ON ABOUT

OSH regulations ? You can wear earmuffs but it's not practical for them when they answer phones. Alternative interim premises for their staff costs money - can you charge more for working outside of 'normal office hours' ?

with the drills most people use you dont need ear muffs, you are supposed to weart ear muffs, but only you not the other 20 guys working on the same floor, and they dont go running for ear muffs soon as a drill starts. moving to alternative premises is a fukn joke. unless its your floor thats being renovated.


Sorry to disagree but conversely why then is your job more important that theirs ? I agree that some staff complain about sweet FA.
Can they do their job effectively outside of office hours like you can ? Such as their business 'partners' only working during office hours.

OFfice bitches wouldnt have anywahere to bitch around if it wasnt for the FZZERMANs of the world, theyd be outside sitting under trees or somewhere, yet office bitches look down on the fizzermans of this world, quite ironic.
the office bitches shouldnt have to move to alternate premises, nor work outside normal hours, they SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUK UP INSTEAD OF BITCHING ALL THE TIME


End of the day, you are being contracted to do a job so 'they' get to dictate the working hours under the contract - your choice is to accept the contract or not - your choice.

yet again another office bitcher being wrong. typical officer bitch mentality. haha., talking about different tenants on differnt floors, not the ones thats companies are 'giving' plebs like fizzer work as you might put it. its not common for one company to tenant a whole building..

Another consideration is the neighbour premises and noise regulations regarding their 'rights'. Do you meet the construction noise standards with regard to adjoining tenancies (office next door) ?

probably not, i think farting sends the limit over doesnt it. the shitty little partitions that we build wouldnt stop fuk all office noise going through adjoinging tenancies, but noise pollution down on the street is fuk all, more noise comes from traffic.

I don't think it's about being 'better' than you, but what is practicable for the people issuing the contract, and their staff requirements in order to do their jobs.
there staff are never there, its other companies office bitches that are doing the bitching, and YES OFFICE BITCHES ARE BETTER THAN BUILDING PLEBS< LOTS BETTER so ILL BE WORKING SATURDAY AND SUNDAY CASUE OF SOME MOANING FUKN OFFICE BITCHES TOO

the funny thing is you dont even wear a suit!

[mikey]

i enjoy getting out my dynadrillat work, an hammering away for five or ten minutes, which is nomrally how long it takes for a building manager to get called an find the person comminting these atrocious war crimes under the noise pollution act, then wait for him to get back onto his elevator and go back to his coffee, wait a minute then back into it. nomrally gets a bit upset. packs a tanty. no one ever sees who was doing the drilling. back in the elevator and back into the drilling. less time i have to spend there on office bitches hours 9-3 is the less time i have to come back when i could be out doing my own shit

another good one is when there is commercial and resedential i nthe smae building. YOU GET BOTH OF THEM BITCHING. so who ever does the most bitching, GETS THE MOST DRILLING DONE ON THERE TIME>

[cowpoos]

concrete drill goes into slab 100mm at most with a bit 6mm at its THISCKEST point, it makes a little thud thud thud noise not a big waaaaaaaaarrrrrrcrunch crunchwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr from concrete cutting or heavy drilling, which doesnt happen very frequently.
i talk on my phone on the same floor when people are drilling into the slab to hang wires off, so no problems with office bitches up stairs not being able to hear the more commonly than not, NON WORK RELATED SHIT THERE BLABBERING ON ABOUT

with the drills most people use you dont need ear muffs, you are supposed to weart ear muffs, but only you not the other 20 guys working on the same floor, and they dont go running for ear muffs soon as a drill starts. moving to alternative premises is a fukn joke. unless its your floor thats being renovated.

OFfice bitches wouldnt have anywahere to bitch around if it wasnt for the FZZERMANs of the world, theyd be outside sitting under trees or somewhere, yet office bitches look down on the fizzermans of this world, quite ironic.
the office bitches shouldnt have to move to alternate premises, nor work outside normal hours, they SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUK UP INSTEAD OF BITCHING ALL THE TIME

yet again another office bitcher being wrong. typical officer bitch mentality. haha., talking about different tenants on differnt floors, not the ones thats companies are 'giving' plebs like fizzer work as you might put it. its not common for one company to tenant a whole building..

probably not, i think farting sends the limit over doesnt it. the shitty little partitions that we build wouldnt stop fuk all office noise going through adjoinging tenancies, but noise pollution down on the street is fuk all, more noise comes from traffic.

there staff are never there, its other companies office bitches that are doing the bitching, and YES OFFICE BITCHES ARE BETTER THAN BUILDING PLEBS< LOTS BETTER so ILL BE WORKING SATURDAY AND SUNDAY CASUE OF SOME MOANING FUKN OFFICE BITCHES TOO

the funny thing is you dont even wear a suit!
what did you have for lunch today mikey?

[White trash]

concrete drill goes into slab 100mm at most with a bit 6mm at its THISCKEST point, it makes a little thud thud thud noise not a big waaaaaaaaarrrrrrcrunch crunchwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr from concrete cutting or heavy drilling, which doesnt happen very frequently.
i talk on my phone on the same floor when people are drilling into the slab to hang wires off, so no problems with office bitches up stairs not being able to hear the more commonly than not, NON WORK RELATED SHIT THERE BLABBERING ON ABOUT

with the drills most people use you dont need ear muffs, you are supposed to weart ear muffs, but only you not the other 20 guys working on the same floor, and they dont go running for ear muffs soon as a drill starts. moving to alternative premises is a fukn joke. unless its your floor thats being renovated.

OFfice bitches wouldnt have anywahere to bitch around if it wasnt for the FZZERMANs of the world, theyd be outside sitting under trees or somewhere, yet office bitches look down on the fizzermans of this world, quite ironic.
the office bitches shouldnt have to move to alternate premises, nor work outside normal hours, they SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUK UP INSTEAD OF BITCHING ALL THE TIME

yet again another office bitcher being wrong. typical officer bitch mentality. haha., talking about different tenants on differnt floors, not the ones thats companies are 'giving' plebs like fizzer work as you might put it. its not common for one company to tenant a whole building..

probably not, i think farting sends the limit over doesnt it. the shitty little partitions that we build wouldnt stop fuk all office noise going through adjoinging tenancies, but noise pollution down on the street is fuk all, more noise comes from traffic.

there staff are never there, its other companies office bitches that are doing the bitching, and YES OFFICE BITCHES ARE BETTER THAN BUILDING PLEBS< LOTS BETTER so ILL BE WORKING SATURDAY AND SUNDAY CASUE OF SOME MOANING FUKN OFFICE BITCHES TOO

the funny thing is you dont even wear a suit!
Are you fucking Drew or something bro?

[Drew]

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white, and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
They point the cannon right at you

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, dont they help themselves
But when the tax man comes to the door,
Lord the house looks like a rummage sale

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no millionaire's son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
Ooh, they send you down to war
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
They only answer "More! More! More!"

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no military son
It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

It ain't me, it ain't me
I ain't no fortunate one

Is that Neil Young, or Credence Clearwater? I'm often confused by the anti establishment movement songs.

[Flatcap]

Whats wrong with working in an office?

Someone has to shuffle the claim papers about after you builder types build a shitbox leaky building and then wind up your company to avoid lawsuits.

[Drew]

Whats wrong with working in an office?

Someone has to shuffle the claim papers about after you builder types build a shitbox leaky building and then wind up your company to avoid lawsuits.
I only do internal office fitouts mate, and the odd bit of domestic ceilings. So if the place leaks, my public liabilty insurance wont be called, I dont do cladding of any sort.

[Flatcap]

I only do internal office fitouts mate, and the odd bit of domestic ceilings. So if the place leaks, my public liabilty insurance wont be called, I dont do cladding of any sort.

Well I hope you didn't do my office cos the door doesn't latch and the ceiling panels are falling off...

plus it stinks


...but that may be my fault

[Deano]

Lighten up Mikey.

[Drew]

Lighten up Mikey.

All about the larfs here bro, we know it's part of the job, and it does put people out, we just havin a bitch cos we can.

(PS, you're an office geek:dodge: )

[The Pastor]

Is that Neil Young, or Credence Clearwater? I'm often confused by the anti establishment movement songs.

CCR and its anti war.