Is the Roof Boxer (E2 Cert) legal on New Zealand roads?

[Trumpy scooter]

Hi all this is my first post and im new to riding.
Ive bought a roof boxer R05 helmet(apparently theyre crap in wind,damn it)but it has an E2 cert.is this okay legal wise?...if not,are the cops gonna care if im on me scooter with one?

Thanks

[xwhatsit]

Man... what a neat first bike/scooter/whatever! Bit of a rarity.

I'm pretty sure E2 certification is fine in NZ. At any rate, I doubt you'd ever get picked up for it -- unless it blatantly looked illegal, like one of those imperial german helmets or whatever. Roof Boxer is a full-face, so I'm sure you'll be sweet.

[Mully]

Here, have a link:

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-safety/motorcyclists/gear-and-clothing.html

[Zapf]

looks cool thou. :)

[Steam]

Pretty cool looking helmet that Roof Boxer. Funny name though...
I want me one.

[The Pastor]

No cop ever is ever going to check to see your helmet is the right one.

[klingon]

The Tigress sure is cool! These pics are from http://storm.tocmp.com/mptriumphtigress.htm

[Trumpy scooter]

WOW thanks for the fast an +ve replys all,yeah the tigress has plenty of style and go for an old scoot,but although ive not yet used my helmet apparently theyre wind traps.should look good though.

[MD]

That is one cooool helmet! And I never knew Triumph made a scooter. Cool on top of cool.:scooter:

[Ixion]

Was a well respected scoot in the day, too.

[Daffyd]

That would be a 250 twin? Also came out as a BSA Sumbeam.
Early example of badge engineering.

[Ixion]

Tigress was a 250cc 4 stroke twin, yep. Fast , over 70mph, but not too reliable, even by the standards of the day. From memory they had some weird carb, that noone could ever get right. For some reason the Brits always seemed to go apeshit with carbs on their small bikes, fitted weird incomprehensible untunable things.

I thought the Sunbeam had a 175 two stroke engine from the BSA Bantam, with the same body as the Tigress.

But there was a Triumph Tina , too. Can't remember much about that.

[Draig]

I got a boxer - great concept - not carried off very well.

Bit noisy, fogs up a bit and the press studs to secure the chin piece are a bitch. Bloody good looking llid though and quite comfy.:scooter:

[MD]

I got a boxer - great concept - not carried off very well.



Hi Draig, I'm trying to figure it out from the picture. Does the chin & visor section do a complete rotate up and over the back to become an open face helmet? If so what's it like to ride with it up?
No matter what that is one seriously good looking jetfighter styled helmet.
Are they available in NZ?
So many questions, so little time. How about some pictures of it in various stages.

[El Dopa]

Hi Draig, I'm trying to figure it out from the picture. Does the chin & visor section do a complete rotate up and over the back to become an open face helmet? If so what's it like to ride with it up?
No matter what that i sone seriously good looking jetfighter styled helmet.
Are they available in NZ?
So many questions, so little time. How about some pictures of it in various stages.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/roof-helmet/roof-boxer/

I looked into these a while ago. Got put off by a couple of bad reviews.

As far as I know no-one sells them in NZ.

[Draig]

It seems that the E2 approval is ok in NZ see


http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/road-user-safety/motorcyclists/gear-and-clothing.html

There is a good site with lots of pictures of the helmet here:


http://www.t-child.com/

The chin guard flips right up and around to 'rest' on the rear part of the helmet whereas the visor only rotates enough to clear the open part of the helmet. so you could ride with the chin flipped up but the 'drag' at higher speeds may be uncomfortable or even dangerous in the event of a spill?
I only ride with it flipped up while poodling around town or through traffic.

Havent seen any for sale in NZ - bought mine in UK.

Hope this helps:done:

[Draig]

Also just noticed that they have the 'new model' boxer on that site with some of the negative issues addressed :yes:

[NZHog]

I got put off by the price. Ended up with an AGV Dragon which I love & looks cool still LOL.

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=&store=Main&catId=&productId=prod660978&leafCatId=&mmyId=

[Toaster]

No cop ever is ever going to check to see your helmet is the right one.

In my experience - only if you are a twat. But then half the cops don't know what the heck to look for when it comes to bikes and bikers anyway.

[Trumpy scooter]

Okay from whatit may seem i have a french approved helmet(they ride like maniacs in france so its probably okay)

i think the example given by nz land and trans is just that,an example, as the number given is for italy.

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/road-user-safety/motorcyclists/gear-and-clothing.html

It sounds a bit silly, but i just wanted it to be legal as i havnt seen any on nz roads.

The nz number would be E48 (i dont know if we make any helmets but it would have been a better example. or at least saying they used an italian marking example)

This gives a list of all the correct countrys numbers

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/motorcyclehelmetsvisorsandgo4563?page=7

So without being sure via the nz land and trans site it does look really legal.
thankyou for the advice and replys

[Nasty]

I thought they said you must wear a helmit and left it at that ... the rest is your choice ... although I don't think helmits can be sold in NZ unless they meet international/national certifications as they are deemed to be safer.

[Mully]

I thought they said you must wear a helmit and left it at that ... the rest is your choice ... although I don't think helmits can be sold in NZ unless they meet international/national certifications as they are deemed to be safer.

Yep, the link to LTSA was on the first page. It must meet one of the international standards. Personally, if you were only buying and importing for personal use, I don't think they would bother to check.

Incidentally, good time to buy in USD at the moment. What with the Kiwi flying.......

[pritch]

I got a boxer - great concept - not carried off very well.
Bit noisy, fogs up a bit and the press studs to secure the chin piece are a bitch.

This pretty much agrees with what one of the BIKE journos wrote except he was harder on the propensity of the helmet to fog, and on the useless studs.

The best thing about his helmet was that he had Dave Jefferies' autograph on it, so he retired it as a collectors piece.

[Daffyd]

Tigress was a 250cc 4 stroke twin, yep. Fast , over 70mph, but not too reliable, even by the standards of the day. From memory they had some weird carb, that noone could ever get right. For some reason the Brits always seemed to go apeshit with carbs on their small bikes, fitted weird incomprehensible untunable things.

I thought the Sunbeam had a 175 two stroke engine from the BSA Bantam, with the same body as the Tigress.

But there was a Triumph Tina , too. Can't remember much about that.

The Bantam motor was never used in a scooter...They all had fans as enclosed motors had a habit of overheating without forced air cooling.
As far as I know the Tigress/Sunbeam motor was exclusive to these two scooters.
The first scooter that didn't have a fan was the Victa, a smaller version of the Rabbit. (First Japanese scooter to come into NZ.)

[Trumpy scooter]

ive also got a 175 tigress based on the bantam engine,so they did have a 2 stroke version.

[fishb8nz]

I had a 250 and as far as I know, they were the only 4 stroke, 2 cylinder scooter around. Mine went well, at least I thought so. Handled 2 up pretty good as well. Good memories of it.