View Full Version : Dark.Wet.Cold.Windy.Greasy.Treacherous.Dangerous. Yep, winter's coming
Ixion
28th March 2007, 23:55
Well, tonight I had to break out waterproofs on the BMW. And yep, it was cold, dark,wet,windy,greasy,treacherous and dangerous. And the cagers were totally stupid.
So I think maybe we've seen the end of the golden weather (Though I'll still hope for an Indian summer). WINTER'S COMING !
Which means we're coming into the best time of year for riding. When the real riders come out, and the posers slink off.
Some of you may not have ridden through a Winter yet . So now is the time to start getting ready for it.
Get your bike ready. Lube everything lubable. Grease everything greasable. Check your cables and lube them . Chains - will they last through a Winter, chain wear is much much greater in Winter ? (BMW and Guzzi riders, stop smirking) . If doubtful, may be time to replace them. Tyres ditto. A bald tyre on dry roads is no matter. In Winter it may kill you. If in doubt, now's the time to fit new ones.
Electrics! Winter means water,and water will try to get into your electrics, and stop them working (Ducatis and Motoguzzis, of course won't notice the difference ) ! Which can be embrassing at best, lethal at worst. WD40 everything, and use insulating tape and sealant liberally. Especially aroud the HT stuff. The beginning of Winter is the worst, during summer electrics get coated with a light layer of dust. When Winter comes the dust gets wet, and conductive. Clean coils, HT leads, replace plugs. More WD40.
Sort out the little things. Like that tear in the seat. Nothing more horrible than sitting down and going "Squelch" cos your seat has become a huge sponge.
It's going to be dark. Are your lights nice and bright? Lenses clean ?
What about your gear ? Time to clean and Nicwax the cordura. Put the leather jacket away and get out the greatcoat. Dubbin (bet your tin's dried up) for the boots and gaiters. You do HAVE gaiters, don't you (from your local Army surplus store in K road opposite the billboard of the bint with the bodacious bristols. You can't miss them) . Put the linings back in jackets and leggings. Check zippers run freely, lube as necessary. May be time to replace that visor , eh, so you can see at night.
Don't forget yourself. Eat well before going on a ride. Watch out for hypothermia , it's sneaky and deadly. You WILL encounter it sooner or later. Carrots are good for night vision. On a ride take every opportunity to warm up and dry off. Stop at the pubs, they'll often have a fire. If you venture into the Wild, be sure to take matches (in a waterproof container) , kero and an axe. Remember, if worst comes to worst, burn the bike. It can be replaced , you can't.
Lots and lot of other stuff to think about and get ready. This is a busy time of year, preparing for Winter.
Riding daily through the Winter is a challenge. But, the good thing is, if you do survive it, you'll gain some splendid skills to roll out come summer.
Some links to previous threads, read them , the wisdom in them may save your life .
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=26925
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=11778
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=29244
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=28437
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=18006
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=14070
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=12594
Nitzer
29th March 2007, 00:03
...bah humbug! You've really cheered me up....
Nice one, some really good points there.....must go and check my chain now
The_Dover
29th March 2007, 00:05
i thought you'd been visitin the cheap hookers again with that thread title Ix.
Macktheknife
29th March 2007, 00:10
A timely reminder Ixion, well done. Now if only I could do any of that stuff I would be happy, especially the riding bit. lol
Disco Dan
29th March 2007, 00:14
WD40? I thought it was hydroscopic like CRC and 'attracts' water? Or am I way off base here? I used to coat everything in the stuff till I was told that.
scracha
29th March 2007, 02:28
Cold? You're in Auckland FFS. Bunchakiwibufties.
Nasty
29th March 2007, 05:17
Great thread ... good ideas ... my second winter through so am really looking forward to it .. :scooter:
Steam
29th March 2007, 06:06
my second winter through so am really looking forward to it
Ya mad twit! How can you be looking forward to winter??:shit:
Hawkeye
29th March 2007, 06:12
Is it Winter? When your from the North of England, winter is when you have to clear the snow so you can get the garage door open to get the motor out :laugh:
XP@
29th March 2007, 10:01
Is it Winter? When your from the North of England, winter is when you have to clear the snow so you can get the garage door open to get the motor out :laugh:
... and you need to fit snow chains to your bike.
well it was like that when i was a kid, but now they are lucky to get an inch or two.
more_fasterer
29th March 2007, 10:12
Remember, if worst comes to worst, burn the bike. It can be replaced , you can't.
Handy to remember for the ride to work, thanks :bleh:
WD40? I thought it was hydroscopic like CRC and 'attracts' water? Or am I way off base here? I used to coat everything in the stuff till I was told that.
It says on the tin that it's more pentrative than water (no mean feat), so it gets under the water. AFAIK it doesn't absorb water (a.k.a. hygroscopic), unlike brake fluid.
Freakshow
29th March 2007, 10:13
MMM bike maintanece time!! Just bring on the snow and the Ski season
Disco Dan
29th March 2007, 10:22
It says on the tin that it's more pentrative than water (no mean feat), so it gets under the water. AFAIK it doesn't absorb water (a.k.a. hygroscopic), unlike brake fluid.
ahem... err yep thats the one... :innocent:
xwhatsit
29th March 2007, 11:00
Yay! Rain's the best stuff ever! And I don't have to deal with CBRRRs trying to drag me at traffic lights any more!
I'm a great wimpy nana around corners anyway, so I'm not likely to be pushing my luck.
One of the real bastards though in the wet is those S-curves towards the beginning of Remuera Rd. They're just after the shops if you're heading towards Newmarket. On your left is Mt Hobson, and a whole lot of overhanging trees, which drop leaves and dirt and all kinds of other shit. Best to stay in the right-hand lane, as in the left lane, there's not only all the foliage, but water seems to pool very deeply. That's the only place I've ever had my front wheel wash out (foot down very quickly!), and I was only doing about 40kph (but was I really? :innocent:).
Past few times my bike's got (very) wet, the battery has drained in a matter of hours. Some exposed lead is getting grounded, by the looks -- my bike has more electrical tape than a Russian spacecraft. Not a huge issue on a normally bump-started bike, but slightly disturbing nonetheless when you don't even get a neutral light.
Thanks for the reminders.
KATWYN
29th March 2007, 11:05
Well, tonight I had to break out waterproofs on the BMW. And yep, it was cold, dark,wet,windy,greasy,treacherous and dangerous. And the cagers were totally stupid.
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Good thread.
and yep thats exactly why i'm in the car to come to work today.. has got nothing to do with looking like a drowned rat when I get to work AT ALL :o
Disco Dan
29th March 2007, 13:20
Get your bike ready. Lube everything lubable. Grease everything greasable. Check your cables and lube them . Chains - will they last through a Winter, chain wear is much much greater in Winter A bald tyre on dry roads is no matter. In Winter it may kill you. If in doubt, now's the time to fit new ones.
Electrics! Winter means water,and water will try to get into your electrics, and stop them working (Ducatis and Motoguzzis, of course won't notice the difference ) ! Which can be embrassing at best, lethal at worst. WD40 everything, and use insulating tape and sealant liberally. Especially aroud the HT stuff. The beginning of Winter is the worst, during summer electrics get coated with a light layer of dust. When Winter comes the dust gets wet, and conductive. Clean coils, HT leads, replace plugs. More WD40.
Cheers for the tips Ixion, spent this morning making my bike naked... linned up a couple of dozen cans of WD40 around my bike and hitting them with a large hammer... everything lubed and greased... got into all the nooks and crannys with a toothbrush with some kerosene and she's shiny once more! My electrics dont seem to need vaseline, as I tend to spray everything every other day during winter...
sunhuntin
29th March 2007, 13:37
Great thread ... good ideas ... my second winter through so am really looking forward to it .. :scooter:
ditto....though im not really sure why! LOL.
idiot cagers on the road, paint and manholes to contend with, getting soaked going to, while at, and returning home from, work. freezing my tits off filling endless gas bottles that always run out when the wind and rain picks up. getting nice and toasty checking water and oil an then getting frostbite when the bonnet goes down again. going blind riding home while trying to see through scratched goggles, getting pissed off with them, and then getting more blind trying to see through rain drops.
great thread though. got a tyre ordered, and gonna get a full service done when that comes in [chain needs tightening, choke cable needs fixing plus the usual]
The_Dover
29th March 2007, 13:46
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judecatmad
29th March 2007, 15:05
So now is the time to start getting ready for it.
Get your bike ready. Lube everything lubable. Grease everything greasable. Check your cables and lube them . Chains - will they last through a Winter, chain wear is much much greater in Winter ? (BMW and Guzzi riders, stop smirking) . If doubtful, may be time to replace them. Tyres ditto. A bald tyre on dry roads is no matter. In Winter it may kill you. If in doubt, now's the time to fit new ones.
Electrics! Winter means water,and water will try to get into your electrics, and stop them working (Ducatis and Motoguzzis, of course won't notice the difference ) ! Which can be embrassing at best, lethal at worst. WD40 everything, and use insulating tape and sealant liberally. Especially aroud the HT stuff. The beginning of Winter is the worst, during summer electrics get coated with a light layer of dust. When Winter comes the dust gets wet, and conductive. Clean coils, HT leads, replace plugs. More WD40.
Sort out the little things. Like that tear in the seat. Nothing more horrible than sitting down and going "Squelch" cos your seat has become a huge sponge.
It's going to be dark. Are your lights nice and bright? Lenses clean ?
Thanks for that - a nice reminder to be prepared :yes:
.......now all I need is a goddamn bike :shutup:
Ixion
29th March 2007, 15:34
One thing I was reminded of this morning . Watch out for leaf thrash on corners.
At this time of years, leaves and other plant bits get blown onto the road in large amounts. Cage slipstream, wind and rain tend to accumulate the stuff into a soggy bank of mouldering vegetation running along the centre line , and the road edges. Just placed nicely for you to run onto at corner apex. Sometimes the banks can be several foot wide. And very slippery (pine needles are the very DEVIL).
von Klunken stepped out a foot or so on the stuff the other weekend. So if you see a brownish line around the oncoming corner centre line - BEWARE.
xwhatsit
29th March 2007, 22:51
Woohoo! On the aforementioned S-curves on Remuera Rd, tonight as I rode past I noticed a big orange sign, telling me `FLOOD'. Wicked sick! Tried to stay out of the worst of it, but still ended up lifting my feet off the pegs and sticking them out in the air to keep my feet from drowning. Recommended riding technique? Probably not.
Lots of fun, though. My front brake, which really only gives a faint suggestion of slowing down at the best of times, is now almost entirely useless. Rear drum brake, on the other hand, does nothing for the first 50% of braking, until it suddenly grabs and tries to lock. Front disc got better the more I used it, though. Thank god for engine braking, except, of course, when you don't blip and rear wheel starts doing its own thing.
Wet weather riding is great fun; until you stop, then have to peel off all your wet stuff. Need to wash that cordura, I think.
Krusti
29th March 2007, 23:33
Thanks for that, but I've never been able to figure out how to turn the carrots on. Mounted them on front of my bike last night and did not seem to make much difference. Do you leave the tops on?
I am always told to keep my eyes peeled, does this apply to the carrots as well?
So much to learn.........
Seriously though a timely reminder and yep this is when us real....or is it stupid riders all come out. I know I'm one of these but not sure which at times!
Ixion
29th March 2007, 23:45
..Tried to stay out of the worst of it, but still ended up lifting my feet off the pegs and sticking them out in the air to keep my feet from drowning. Recommended riding technique? Probably not.
...
You need a chook chaser. Sticking feet out is not good , buggers your balance. recommended riding technique is to tuck them up and in and rest them on the cylinder head. CXn00 and Guzzi/BMW riders have an advantage here.
EDIT. Just watch out not to get too close to the spark plug.
SPman
30th March 2007, 00:44
Yep - daylight saving is over, the temperatures trending down to the mid-high 20's - even the threat of a shower or two in the weekend! :shit:
Winter is upon us, alright...
dogsnbikes
30th March 2007, 02:28
sounds like your spending the winter in WGTN Ix
Good thread well done:sunny:
Winter
3rd April 2007, 11:54
So I think maybe we've seen the end of the golden weather (Though I'll still hope for an Indian summer). WINTER'S COMING !
Yes, its true, I'm coming, oh im coming. :sick:
Roll on the snow :P
blacksheep
3rd April 2007, 12:15
Is it Winter? When your from the North of England, winter is when you have to clear the snow so you can get the garage door open to get the motor out :laugh:
ehh when i where t'lad,ah used to live in a wet cardboard box in't middle of M6 (motorway for you kiwis)and you think you've got it bad:bye: ,piles of snow in your groin area enough to freeze bollix of a brass monkey ah can tell thee:shit:
Sorry Im missing something here???
You mean ride my nice clean bike when its wet.
Really???
You mean people can ride in the wet.
Well I never!!!:gob: Thats a new one on me!
No one ever told me about that before. I thought bikes were only for fine days otherwise the rain will get in my jandels
Well I never!!!
(Sorry guys couldnt resist a blatent troll)
Good advise tho but having a Beemer they never break down so no worries and yes I have been known to ride with my legs on top of the cylinders
blackrider01
27th April 2007, 19:57
Since winter is coming, make sure you have a durable boots. Go for the leather boots!
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Nasty
28th April 2007, 09:09
Since winter is coming, make sure you have a durable boots. Go for the leather boots!
And use something like dubbins on them .. great stuff for waterproofing :yes:
Paul in NZ
28th April 2007, 10:07
I thought this thread was about the Labour party... Dark, Wet, Cold, Windy, Greasy, Treacherous, Dangerous...
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