Second Auckland First aid course.

[FROSTY]

Guys N gals I thought it was about time to pull my finger out and organise the second KB first aid evening.
The first one was a roaring success and I think we all got a lot out of it.
Those that diddn't get to attend the first one Put ya hands up here.
Ill confirm a firm time/date with FF and the others and post the exact date here.
Numbers are again limited to 10 and it is a first come first served situation.
Devil x2
Badcat
Paperatsi
Dodgyiti
These folks are confirmed

[Devil]

*Puts up two hands
For Lane and I.

[badlieutenant]

im assuming this is a certificated course ? i have to get a first aid cert for work and im keen if it gives me a little bit of paper to keep osh happy. and you never know, might be able to help someone as well :D

[FROSTY]

im assuming this is a certificated course ? i have to get a first aid cert for work and im keen if it gives me a little bit of paper to keep osh happy. and you never know, might be able to help someone as well :D
Sorry dude its Not a certified course._the instructors are donating their time and a certificate course costs money.
Its specific to bike accidents

[Mr Skid]

count me in!

[Badcat]

Guys N gals I thought it was about time to pull my finger out and organise the second KB first aid evening.
The first one was a roaring success and I think we all got a lot out of it.
Those that diddn't get to attend the first one Put ya hands up here.
Ill confirm a firm time/date with FF and the others and post the exact date here.
Numbers are again limited to 10 and it is a first come first served situation.

count me in.....

ken

[Dodgyiti]

Yes Please!
I did a St Johns course soooo long ago, I have even got the tase of the resuss dummy out of my mouth :whistle:

[FROSTY]

as i recall I had one person fron the last course that missed out.
sheesh who was it -argggg

[Badcat]

as i recall I had one person fron the last course that missed out.
sheesh who was it -argggg

please sir - it was me sir!!
me me me

(enough coffee today for me i think)
k

[FROSTY]

nope it wasn't you BC --Your down for it -shit my memory is buggered. The bloke that just got married.
ARGGG-of course--Cold Kiwi

[Two Smoker]

nope it wasn't you BC --Your down for it -shit my memory is buggered. The bloke that just got married.
ARGGG-of course--Cold KiwiDo you want KK and i to be comedians again????? lol The other guy that couldnt come last time was Quasievil :niceone:

[FROSTY]

yea of course -quazi was another one.
and um er noope Ill pass on the dynamic duo -BUT Ill talk to ya later
Ive an idea or two how ya could help out

[Devil]

and um er noope Ill pass on the dynamic duo -BUT Ill talk to ya later
Ive an idea or two how ya could help out
Valet parking! :killingme

[FROSTY]

yea right --nexy you'll be wantin the buggers groomed

[Coldkiwi]

nope it wasn't you BC --Your down for it -shit my memory is buggered. The bloke that just got married.
ARGGG-of course--Cold Kiwi

guilty as charged :) (and loving it!)

yeah, hook me up frosty. Bike specific advice would be great

[Firefight]

hey Guys, firstly this is not a first aid course, this is a trauma/scene management course desgined for Bikers, it covers things like, scene safety, helmet removal, action plan, CPR, we talk about basic first aid kits, and hopefully dispell misinformation about liability issues.The course takes about 2.5 to 3 hours, I haven't spoke to the other two instructors yet, but from my own perspective nothing will happen before November.

F/F

[Two Smoker]

Valet parking! :killingme
You would trust me and the westie testie KK parking bikes??????? lol

[FROSTY]

nope --id get ya tuning em up --specially hoon and a couple of other f3 bikes

[Two Smoker]

nope --id get ya tuning em up --specially hoon and a couple of other f3 bikes
you do know KK's bike is running UNDER factory horsepower due to his "TUNING"..... and my bike is always in the shop because i break it all the time, thus no good at tuning, make it too breakable lol...

[badlieutenant]

Sorry dude its Not a certified course._the instructors are donating their time and a certificate course costs money.
Its specific to bike accidents
ahh that would be interesting, only thing I assumed about bike accidents was if thier helemts are damaged dont take them off unless they werent breathing and dont move them unless absolutely required. heard of a guy getting his helmet taken off and thats when he died. only thing keeping him alive was his extra fibreglass skull.
actually might be a good idea to have a post that gives aleast a guideline of what the course tells u to do. You never know a minimum amount of information might help somebody help somebody :D

[Firefight]

ahh that would be interesting, only thing I assumed about bike accidents was if thier helemts are damaged dont take them off unless they werent breathing and dont move them unless absolutely required. heard of a guy getting his helmet taken off and thats when he died. only thing keeping him alive was his extra fibreglass skull.
actually might be a good idea to have a post that gives aleast a guideline of what the course tells u to do. You never know a minimum amount of information might help somebody help somebody :D


Without knowing the details of the incident you refer to it is hard to comment, however in many cases where helmet removal was performed and Rider died ,the extent of the injuries was such that this would have occured anyway. You are pretty much on to it re non or partial breathing, however there are other considerations, location(ie romote from emergency services) more than one casuality, or ir there is a chance of patient condition deteriorating, when we teach emergency helmet removal we normally teach it as a skill done by two first aiders.

A few years ago while off duty I attended a horrific Bike V tree high speed event, I was in my cage, and did not understand why the cars were stopped at the side of the road, I was in uniform and was flagged down buy one of the car drivers. Up on a bank not visable from the road were a biker rider and pillon. It was later claimed by the SCU guys that they had left the road at approx 170kph become air borne and mounted the bank, the rider then hitting the tree.

The rider had hit a large pine tree and had suffered horrific multiple injuries, his pillon was some feet away and had bounched off a 7 wire fence, the rider was breathing slightly and the pillon was non breathing.

With the help from a motorist who had flagged me down we removed both their helmets. The pillon began to breathe without assistance(CPR) the rider had been choking on his blood & stomach contents, whoever was able to gain some form of stable breathing with assistance at first.

This was in a rural area on a main highway approx 10 ks from the nearest small town, The rider lived for about 50 miniutes, but passed away before he could be loaded into the helicopter.

The pillon survived after many weeks ICU, this can be attributed to the skill & dedication of the Doctors and Nurses at Auckland ED, I meet the pillon many months later, with many months of treatment still to go, a long term future was positive.

It was intersting at the time of the incident, no bystanders would attempt to take off the helmets, and one guy even told me not to.


F/F

[FROSTY]

ok guys n gals--looks like we need to postpone this till november

[Stinger]

Count me in whenever it ends up being (As long as it's not a tuesday night). Sounds extremely valuable.

[Riff Raff]

Every rider should have a basic knowledge of first aid, especially pertaining to motorbike accidents. The other thing we should all have is stickers prominantly displayed on our helmets saying "In case of accident DO NOT remove helmet" in the hope of deterring well meaning bystanders. If anyone knows where we can get these stickers I would be keen to get some - do BRONZ do them? Good on you for organising these courses. You guys will benefit immensely from them.

[enigma51]

If there is a space left I will be keen just send me a pm if there is space left