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NordieBoy
24th April 2007, 18:16
There's one for sale on TradeMe at the moment...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Other/auction-96758454.htm

Mr. Peanut
24th April 2007, 18:22
That gives you a theoretical range of nearly 700km :shit:

NordieBoy
24th April 2007, 19:48
If the fuel doesn't go stale first :D

CM2005
24th April 2007, 20:09
if i had a DR....

NordieBoy
24th April 2007, 21:09
They go for >$600 new :eek:

Crisis management
24th April 2007, 21:16
I saw the auction and gave it a brief thought, but it's a huge amount of fuel! I have to tippy toe the bike as it is, I'm not sure I want more weight sloshing around up high.

Now, if it was 21 litres I'd be in. :yes: :yes:

nallac
24th April 2007, 21:20
would've loved the range when i had my dr.fill up every month yeah...

re the xtra weight, you don't have to fill it up.

cooneyr
26th April 2007, 15:35
I'm watching that auction Nordie (FBI) so eyes off! :innocent:

Unless you are going to sell the IMS then by all means but get in touch.

Cheers R

NordieBoy
26th April 2007, 16:32
IF I were to get it then I'd sell the IMS but I think it'll go for quite a bit more than I'm willing to part with.
One of the Aus guys on AdvRider paid $680oz $300nz for his.

cooneyr
26th April 2007, 17:47
IF I were to get it then I'd sell the IMS but I think it'll go for quite a bit more than I'm willing to part with.
One of the Aus guys on AdvRider paid $680oz for his.

Sush - you dont want the seller to see things like that. I expect it will be too much for me too. Still replacing riding gear and fixing bike which is more important than a big tank at this stage. Gona keep watching though.

Cheers R

NordieBoy
26th April 2007, 19:40
Sush - you dont want the seller to see things like that. I expect it will be too much for me too. Still replacing riding gear and fixing bike which is more important than a big tank at this stage. Gona keep watching though.

Cheers R

Get them to write it off and get this one with the money :D

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-96304024.htm

It's actually the sister bike to mine.

far queue
28th April 2007, 11:37
I'm watching that auction Nordie (FBI) so eyes off! :innocent:Sorry Ryan :whistle:

NordieBoy
28th April 2007, 11:39
Pretty good price too.

You bugger.

far queue
28th April 2007, 11:42
Pretty good price too.Damn right


You bugger.Shhhhhhh

Transalper
28th April 2007, 12:26
Sorry Ryan :whistle:So have you bid on it or something... i c reserve of $350 was not met. It would still be a good price at that. I like the idea of the knee recesses to get the wind chill off ya nuts but it's too much tank for me, i want my.... i want my.... i want my IMS 18.5 or 20litre.

NordieBoy
28th April 2007, 13:24
It was offered to watchers and bidders :)

far queue
28th April 2007, 13:46
So have you bid on it or something... i c reserve of $350 was not met. It would still be a good price at that. I like the idea of the knee recesses to get the wind chill off ya nuts but it's too much tank for me, i want my.... i want my.... i want my IMS 18.5 or 20litre.


It was offered to watchers and bidders :)
What he said.

I just spoke to the guy that's selling it, he said paid around $500aud for it plus another $130 to customs when it got here, plus postage too I guess, so I figure I got it for around 1/2 price. I've been wanting an IMS tank like Nordie has for some time, but didn't want to spend that much, so I'm pleased this came along ... and thanks Nordie for posting this on here or I would've missed it. I guess I'll have it next week some time.

Transalper
28th April 2007, 14:44
Congrats then FQ, we'll see you out soon with it i hope...

Hey everyone, you won't have to carry spare fuel anymore, just put it in FQ's tank and collect it later :rofl: :buggerd:

NordieBoy
28th April 2007, 15:11
There's enough room on the side of it to write up names and amounts :D


PS. Anyone want a big Acerbis tank for an XR600?

far queue
28th April 2007, 16:22
... we'll see you out soon with it i hope...Yep. It's been a while since I've been out with you guys. I've been out to the Waimak a couple of times in the last week or so and had a ball. I'm looking forward to getting out on some of these longer rides you've all been doing too. I didn't do the ANZAC thing 'cos I couldn't be arsed pissing around with fuel and it's caused problems when planning other rides I've done too, but that wont be an issue anymore.



Hey everyone, you won't have to carry spare fuel anymore, just put it in FQ's tank and collect it later :rofl: :buggerd:


There's enough room on the side of it to write up names and amounts :DYou do realise that the amount can be quite expen$ive in the middle of nowhere, what with supply and demand and all that kind of thing, or did TA have some other payment method in mind :buggerd:

NordieBoy
28th April 2007, 17:04
I didn't do the ANZAC thing 'cos I couldn't be arsed pissing around with fuel and it's caused problems when planning other rides I've done too, but that wont be an issue anymore.

Just fill up in January and ride...

:D

cooneyr
28th April 2007, 21:00
You bugger. I asked the guy to offer for a fixed this morning thinking I'd get back to a computer latter on this morning but it wasnt till 8pm. Oh well was meant to be I guess. Would prob rather have an IMS 18l but would have "made do". Will have to have a look at it some time FQ.

Cheers R

far queue
29th April 2007, 09:08
You bugger. I asked the guy to offer for a fixed this morning thinking I'd get back to a computer latter on this morning but it wasnt till 8pm. Oh well was meant to be I guess. Would prob rather have an IMS 18l but would have "made do". Will have to have a look at it some time FQ.

Cheers RStop it, you're making me feel guilty. I happened to be sitting at the PC when the offer came through, and then I dithered for an hour and a half ... should I? shouldn't I? ... I did. I didn't bid on it because you'd said you were interested, but then when you didn't bid either I figured maybe you want it after all. I'll buy you a beer, will that make you feel better :apint:

I tracked down a mate who happened to be in Dunedin (where the tank is) for the weekend, so it's being delivered to him this morning and I should have it this evening :done:

Transalper
29th April 2007, 10:38
Just a little heads up on possible fitting issues...
Quote from post#10 ont the following Adv forum thread...
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140524
I found when I first slid the Aqualine Tank into place, the rubber pucs on the frame that the tank sits on did not allow the tank to slide foreword enough to easily get the two rear mounting screws easily into the threaded holes. I had read that someone else had this problem & they trimmed a little off the back of the rubber pucs. I took off about 1/8" or so off the back part of the pucs where they seat into the slot in the tank. You still had to push the tank forward quite hard to get the two bolts into place. It wasn't that bad though. The seat slid into place with a nice tight fit against the tank. What I found next was that the seat brackets didn't slide quite far enough foreword to align with the thread holes in the frame for the mounting bolts. They were pretty close though & all I needed to do was elongate the holes foreword with a rat-tail file about 1/8" to get it to line up, not a big problem. Probable not the tank manufacturers fault, with plastic tanks there is probable a bigger variance than with steel tanks. Suzuki doesn't always put every bracket in exactly the same place either. I found that the grab handle mounting holes did not measure the same distance front to back on each side. There are three other small issues I have with tank. 1. The front brace they supplied is pretty poor & a pain in the ass to install. The rubber frame protectors they supplied were just stick on window type insulation that immediately fell off. I replaced it with a piece of cut to fit auto heater hose that I wired on. The piece was 1/8" aluminum flat stock that I had to re-bend to get it to fit properly & was a pain in the ass to get it in place. I'm not the only person that has had trouble with it; one guy from OZ had it break. It is not a total critical part; it's there as a brace against the frame down tube to support the lower front of the tank in case of a fall. I will keep an eye on it & may replace it with one of my own design. 2. They could have done a cleaner job making the openings for the petcocks, but there are no leaks so I guess it is all right. 3. This is the thing that pisses me off a little. The petcocks supplied with the tank are for 6mm ID hose, which is the fuel line size that was supplied. The thing is the carb fuel line connection is for 8mm fuel line as is the stock DR650 petcock. They should have supplied petcocks that use the same fuel line as is used on the carb. I imagine you could force the 6mm hose onto the carb connection that is designed for 8 mm hose, but it wouldn't be good as it would over stretch the hose & could be a point of failure in the future. The tank uses separate petcocks for the right & left side. I used the stock DR650 vacuum operated petcock on the left side & used the non-vacuum petcock they supplied on the right. I replaced the nylon T connector they supplied with a better brass one from an auto parts store (5/16" which = 8mm). I used only the 6mm hose from the right petcock to the T connector, but may change the right petcock to a Pingel with an 8mm connection in the future. All said I really like the Aqualine tank. It is a big SOB. When I first saw it I said, "what the hell kind of a monster did I buy". Once I got it on the bike it didn't look bad at all. I thought it would cause a lot of air resistance, but maybe it actually acts like a fairing cleaning up the airflow

far queue
29th April 2007, 11:02
Thanks for that TA. I thought I'd found everything about his tank, but never came across this one. Cheers :2thumbsup

cooneyr
29th April 2007, 11:47
Stop it, you're making me feel guilty. I happened to be sitting at the PC when the offer came through, and then I dithered for an hour and a half ... should I? shouldn't I? ... I did. I didn't bid on it because you'd said you were interested, but then when you didn't bid either I figured maybe you want it after all. I'll buy you a beer, will that make you feel better :apint:....

Dont feel guilty! I was too slow of the mark. Dont worry about the beer just bring the extra fuel LOL.

Good luck fitting it. Just make sure you start using it though on some of the longer trips. Couldnt leave it to waste away in the gge now aye :dodge:

Cheers R

far queue
29th April 2007, 14:54
Dont feel guilty! I was too slow of the mark. Dont worry about the beer just bring the extra fuel LOL.OK, I'm over it then :D

Just make sure you start using it though on some of the longer trips. Couldnt leave it to waste away in the gge now aye :dodge: To be sure. I'm starting to think about the Brass Monkey now, so if the weathers looking OK that weekend I'll probably go. I think I'll start sussing out an interesting route.

I just heard from my mate who's about to head home with it - his assessment - "it's fucking big" :D

cooneyr
29th April 2007, 17:11
OK, I'm over it then :D
To be sure. I'm starting to think about the Brass Monkey now, so if the weathers looking OK that weekend I'll probably go. I think I'll start sussing out an interesting route.

Was really looking forward to the Brass but don't know if it is going to happen this year. I only get the first brace off on the 18th of May i.e 2 weeks before. I'm suppose to wear a different brace for another two weeks after the first so ???????. Will have to talk nicely to the Doc and see what he says.

Gona be interesting to see how big a safari tank really is.

Cheers R

Motu
29th April 2007, 17:26
I saw the auction and gave it a brief thought, but it's a huge amount of fuel! I have to tippy toe the bike as it is, I'm not sure I want more weight sloshing around up high.

Now, if it was 21 litres I'd be in. :yes: :yes:

They actually lower the CG,you get more fuel down low.

far queue
29th April 2007, 17:40
Was really looking forward to the Brass but don't know if it is going to happen this year. I only get the first brace off on the 18th of May i.e 2 weeks before. I'm suppose to wear a different brace for another two weeks after the first so ???????. Will have to talk nicely to the Doc and see what he says.I'm no doc, but I wouldn't recommend it for you this year. You're going to need to build strength up again after all this time in the brace. So with the distance involved, and the camping conditions, let alone if you have a minor off, you stand a good chance of setting your recovery back somewhat. It'll still be on next year and you'll be fully fit. Just call me mum :D


They actually lower the CG,you get more fuel down low.Yep, from what I've read, with the tank 1/2 full the bike handles better than with the stock tank as the fuel is carried lower and further forward ... and a 1/2 full tank is still 3L more than a full stock tank :rockon:

Crisis management
30th April 2007, 07:52
Not quite off topic but....

Having realised that the DR is very light on the front, I have to sit well forward to weight the front wheel enough for traction on most corners, do these larger capacity tanks add much weight to the front and can you still move forward enough to weight the front with a larger tank?

NordieBoy
30th April 2007, 08:12
The 32L Safari tank'swings are well forward of the forks.
It weights the front a bit...


Of course you could just slow down :D

cooneyr
30th April 2007, 08:38
I'm no doc, but I wouldn't recommend it for you this year. You're going to need to build strength up again after all this time in the brace. So with the distance involved, and the camping conditions, let alone if you have a minor off, you stand a good chance of setting your recovery back somewhat. It'll still be on next year and you'll be fully fit. Just call me mum :D

Yes Mum. I'm not expecting to go just though I'd ask - Doc at Burwood seemed pretty blase about the whole thing. Going to have to be really concious of not having another off in the near future. Neck strength is probably not too bad given that I'm an ex tight head prop so hopefully rehab not too hard.


The 32L Safari tank'swings are well forward of the forks.
It weights the front a bit...


Of course you could just slow down :D

Slow down! Well actually maybe that would have been a good idea :innocent:

Cheers R

Crisis management
30th April 2007, 09:03
Of course you could just slow down :D

If I go any slower I'll be going backwards..... :gob:

I don't think I am riding particularly fast, but am finding it a constant issue, having to get a bite out of the front tyre on all corners or the front just slops around.
Once I get well forward on the bike and get the rear driving it seems to work alright but it would be nice to just ride around a corner once in a while rather than "driving" the bike hard all the time.

Any suggestions welcome!

cooneyr
30th April 2007, 09:13
If I go any slower I'll be going backwards..... :gob:

I don't think I am riding particularly fast, but am finding it a constant issue, having to get a bite out of the front tyre on all corners or the front just slops around.
Once I get well forward on the bike and get the rear driving it seems to work alright but it would be nice to just ride around a corner once in a while rather than "driving" the bike hard all the time.

Any suggestions welcome!

Not that I'm one to talk given my recient off but - sitting upright(ish) with the bike lent over into the corner and sitting well forward make it go round corners pretty good I recon. Kinda like motorcross style with outside elbow up etc etc. It is a much more forgiving position if nothing else. Check out the discussion from post 251 on in this thread for some discussion on gravel ridding.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=42638&page=17

Cheers R

far queue
5th May 2007, 19:37
Well the tank’s on ready to go. It wasn’t too hard to do, just had to raise the indicators and move the horn.

1. Little and Large
2. and again
3. Before
4. After
5. Side View
6. Riders view

far queue
5th May 2007, 19:38
The guy I got the tank from rang the other day to say he’s now selling his exhaust from his DR. It’s a Staintune system – header pipe and muffler, the muffler has a removable insert for loud/quiet, but quiet is still louder than the stock job. He says the header pipe is the same size as the exhaust outlet – much larger than the stock job, and he reckons the system is much lighter than stock and gave him heaps more power. He says it cost him $1100 and wants he $600 for it. He’s done 10000km with it. If I don’t want it he’s going to put it on Trademe on Monday. I don’t want it, so keep an eye out if you want it, or PM me and I’ll give you his contact details.

cooneyr
5th May 2007, 19:52
Well the tank’s on ready to go. It wasn’t too hard to do, just had to raise the indicators and move the horn.



That's one big boy. Just dont fil it unless you need to and it should actually be better than the factory tank. Glad it when on easy.

Cheers R

NordieBoy
5th May 2007, 21:28
Does my bike look fat in this?

NordieBoy
8th May 2007, 18:15
The guy I got the tank from rang the other day to say he’s now selling his exhaust from his DR. It’s a Staintune system – header pipe and muffler, the muffler has a removable insert for loud/quiet, but quiet is still louder than the stock job. He says the header pipe is the same size as the exhaust outlet – much larger than the stock job, and he reckons the system is much lighter than stock and gave him heaps more power. He says it cost him $1100 and wants he $600 for it. He’s done 10000km with it. If I don’t want it he’s going to put it on Trademe on Monday. I don’t want it, so keep an eye out if you want it, or PM me and I’ll give you his contact details.

$550 start bid (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Exhaust/auction-98989106.htm?p=2) and 5000km :D

far queue
8th May 2007, 20:37
$550 start bid (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Exhaust/auction-98989106.htm?p=2) and 5000km :DYeah, I saw that. Both the price and the distance it's covered have come down since he told me about it.

Transalper
21st May 2007, 15:46
Our (Js and mine) IMS tanks just arrived today, watching the tracking service info they were dispatched from Justgastanks.com (http://justgastanks.com) on Thursday and cleared NZ customs Saturday to be at my door lunchtime today... yay, just in time for the Brass Monkey... some assembely required.

With the current exchange rate one 18.5liter IMS tank costed NZ$375 landed, at my door.

NordieBoy
21st May 2007, 17:18
Looks like a pretty good price too :D

Crisis management
21st May 2007, 17:51
With the current exchange rate one 18.5liter IMS tank costed NZ$375 landed, at my door.

TA, I had a look at the site....looks very good value compared to the other prices I have seen. I understand the tank is complete with cap and petcock, is that correct? How long was the shipping time.....having just spent sunday constantly looking at my speedo and working out how many Km's I have left in the tank, a bigger tank sounds like a good idea before the Whangamomona ride!

Transalper
21st May 2007, 19:16
I placed the order online (using the credit card option to pay) on Thursday 3rd May at 10pm. They had the yellow one in stock and offered to ship it straight away but the Natural (sort of see through) one needed to be bought in. I said i'll wait and they can ship them together. They shipped on Wednesday. Got a USPS tracking number on Thursday, we receieved the Tanks today.
I doubt you'd see them in less than a week if all goes well, could be a lot longer for many reasons such as stock levels, how busy the shop is, how busy customs is etc etc.

As for the bits included, i am expecting a screw on cap, not a locking one:( and a petrol tap thingy. I haven't had a good look in the box yet to see what else if anything is in there. I just had time to open the top of the boxes and check that colours before going to work. I'm still at work.

I'll let you know if there are any issues with fit or fuel leaks about the tap etc after i've fitted it... in a few days.

NordieBoy
21st May 2007, 21:16
The main problem with the fuel tap is the gasket works better if replaced with a thicker o-ring.
Also under braking when forward on the tank and squeezing with your knees you may hear a squeaking sound.
This is not the mouse (Gerald) they supply free with the tank but the fuel tap touching the cooling fins - just grind a bit out of them - Will post a pic of how much I did and no more sound.

Transalper
22nd May 2007, 15:45
The main problem with the fuel tap is the gasket works better if replaced with a thicker o-ring.
I agree, i think chucking the supplied gasket and o-ring and using one thicker o-ring will be the way to go. I got a couple of o-rings from work and am cooking one in gas to see if they are suitable... or if they melt?


Also under braking when forward on the tank and squeezing with your knees you may hear a squeaking sound.
This is not the mouse (Gerald) they supply free with the tank but the fuel tap touching the cooling fins - just grind a bit out of them - Will post a pic of how much I did and no more sound.Like to see the picture yes please.

Is your tap a stock vacuum operated (On/Prime/Reserve) tap or the one supplied with the tanks (On/Off/Reserve)?
I've read of people using the stock one but in my case it will not go in the hole...

<img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/9/8/208927/My%20Documents/IMS-Stock-GasTaps.jpg" alt="IMS-Stock-GasTaps.jpg" />

cooneyr
22nd May 2007, 16:11
....Is your tap a stock vacuum operated (On/Prime/Reserve) tap or the one supplied with the tanks (On/Off/Reserve)?
I've read of people using the stock one but in my case it will not go in the hole...

Looks like it would not be too hard to enlarge the hole if the mounting screw holes line up to with the stock petcock. Looks like there is plenty of room between the screw holes to make a bit of extra space. Just do it very carefully :innocent: Maybe use a hot knife or coarse round file?

Could you even go so far as to use the stock o-ring/seal thingame?

Cheers R

NordieBoy
22nd May 2007, 16:47
Just processing the pics.
The stock tap is very large and I think requires even more cut out of the fins.

NordieBoy
22nd May 2007, 17:07
I think mine is the standard IMS supplied tap.
No leakage that I can see/smell.
I give it a squirt of WD-40 when I do the other pivot points on the bike.

The inset shows the ding on the tap caused by the "squeaking" against the fins.

Hmmm, what's the back of your IMS tap like?
Does it even have the bit that rubbed on mine?

Crisis management
22nd May 2007, 17:31
TA, I think you will find you need a Viton O-ring for use with petrol, nitrile O-rings will not last in that environment.
They should be readily available, they're commonly used in the hydraulic industry.

wysper
13th July 2010, 13:49
Sorry for the dredge!

Is there a good place to get an IMS tank in NZ? I am going to ask Boyds this weekend.

clint640
13th July 2010, 14:46
Sorry for the dredge!

Is there a good place to get an IMS tank in NZ? I am going to ask Boyds this weekend.

Rosie got her big IMS tank for the Sherpa off Justgastanks.com - no problems.

Cheers
Clint

NordieBoy
13th July 2010, 16:41
Yep.

Justgastanks.com

wysper
13th July 2010, 16:45
So local is too expensive?

NordieBoy
13th July 2010, 17:36
Local would probably get them from justgastanks.com :D

dino3310
13th July 2010, 19:00
So local is too expensive?

i never buy local for the big stuff anymore not unless theres a sale, they will get from the same place except they have to chuck there mark up on it as well so its just as easy and cheaper to get certian things of the puta yourself.
example: OEM counter shaft for my bike was $470 something local, from USA identical part was $124us:gob:

shop around quite often its just easier and cheaper to do it yourself.
faaark 32l safari jeeez mate thats friggen huge

wysper
13th July 2010, 20:36
I think I would be happy with something in the 18 to 21 ltr range :)

NordieBoy
13th July 2010, 22:17
I think I would be happy with something in the 18 to 21 ltr range :)

That's an IMS then.

GPS MAN
14th July 2010, 18:45
WOW..32L...must be going to Pluto?:scooter:

Rosie
15th July 2010, 12:14
So local is too expensive?

I would check if you can get one locally and compare prices. After I bought my Safari tank from Australia, I found that Yamaha NZ sell them for about the same price :mellow: