Is now a good time to sell?

[vifferman]

Anyone want to buy a FahrtSturm? I'm seriously considering chucking in bikes for good. :bye:

Is now a good time to sell, or should I wait until the weather gets better?

[Motoracer]

Wait till it's a lil bit warmer mate. The market prices haven't even begun to climb just yet.

When the weather is warm and sunny and you see every other bugger enjoying riding on their bikes, that's when people get desperate to get out there and pay more $$.

P.S. Did you say give up on bikes all togehter? :shit:

[vifferman]

Did you say give up on bikes all togehter? :shit:
Yup. Forever.

[Devil]

Yup. Forever.
....until you get a rocket III right?
right???

[jrandom]

Why?

You've used up your statistical allocation of accidents for this year already. That means you're not going to have any more for a while.

You should hang onto the bike for a while and enjoy the guaranteed-safe period.

[Blakamin]

Yup. Forever.


NOOOOooooo.......

that'd be a shame :bye:

how much?

[aff-man]

Any reason in particular or just because............ :eek: :eek: :wacko: :bye: :bye:

[vifferman]

Why?
Why? You want to know WHY??!?!!

Oh.

I've had more than enough grief about the cost of motorbicycling. This more than offsets the enjoyment factor. The latest incident was helmet replacement cost. Evidently, $450 over the last 10 or 11 years, and the prospect of spending a week's worth of groceries on a helmet was a trifle excessive. And "every month you need to buy something for the bike".
I'm not enjoying it much, due to 1 (especially 1) and excessive commuting.
I'm mentally diseased/disturbed/deranged/deteriorated/denuded/dangerous and feel very vulnerable when riding. I've tried substances, but they make me either feel like I've got a head made of sheep, or make me aggro. Or like an aggro sheep-head. Or summat.

[aff-man]

P.S. it is not a good time to sell the prices are way down due to the cold i suppose but should rise considerably in say 10 years :killingme :killingme (or a month if you are desperate)

[jrandom]

Why? You want to know WHY??!?!!

Oh.

grief... cost... deranged... vulnerable... aggro sheep-head.

Well, if you're not enjoying it, no point in continuing. There's little virtue in masochism.

A VTR isn't the cheapest bike to run, of course. You could swap it for something a lot cheaper and a little more suitable for commuting, but still fun, like a Goose, and have two or three grand left over to spend on a wee holiday. It sounds like you need one.

[Mr Skid]

Sounds as if you've got the commuting:fun ratio out of wack.
I'd recommend a good fang along Old North Road when you finish work tonight, see if that helps.

[vifferman]

A VTR isn't the cheapest bike to run, of course. You could swap it for something a lot cheaper and a little more suitable for commuting, but still fun, like a Goose, and have two or three grand left over to spend on a wee holiday. It sounds like you need one.I didn't think it was excessively expensive (and I haven't finished customising it yet). And I suspect going for a cheaper bike won't stop the bleating; even the XBR500RS Mutant, which I got for free and which cost me a whole $600 to refurbish caused some moaning. No, if I sell the VTR, that will be that.
I've recently had a holiday in Queenstown, and there's one in Melbourne booked for this weekend for our wedding anniversary, if we're not separated by then (came close this morning...)

[Motoracer]

What you need is to get rid of your VTR and put your self on a FXR150. You can't go wrong with that if you think about it.

You'll instantly have cash in hand from the difference. It is THE most ideal commuting bike. Cheap? It re-defines cheap (as in maintainance and running costs etc). Fun? Shit yea, they are great fun!!

Even if you drop from a 1000 to a 150, you'll at least be on two wheels!

Otherwise what the heck are you going to bitch about in KB? Some cager ramming to the back of your cage or how these punks on their 2 wheels passed you in traffic when you were stuck in your tin top sweating from the heat smelling exhaust gasses and moving an inch per hour??

Or are you gunna leave KB too? :confused2

[Cajun]

I didn't think it was excessively expensive (and I haven't finished customising it yet). And I suspect going for a cheaper bike won't stop the bleating; even the XBR500RS Mutant, which I got for free and which cost me a whole $600 to refurbish caused some moaning. No, if I sell the VTR, that will be that.
I've recently had a holiday in Queenstown, and there's one in Melbourne booked for this weekend for our wedding anniversary, if we're not separated by then (came close this morning...)

Firestormer personal i would just ride it, i do alot of communting on bike also i done at least 250km a week just travling backwards and forwards to work i had my bike 4 months done close to 6000kms in that time, and just like any vehicle you will have expenses, okay in your case there as a been a few extras, but you have to look at it if you driving a car to work, i guess you would have to be paying for parking also. I tell my wife, how much does she spend on the car for gas and what so have you, more fuel and i am doing more travling and her and doing it in alot less time. Also riding the bike is my one way of relaxing, and having a bit of fun.

But its really down to what you want to do.
And wifes are always bleating about something, i find it easyer to give her something to bleat about than letting her find something to bleat about.

[vifferman]

Is this excessive expenditure for a year? (This includes rectifying some things like tyres, and noisy exhausts, that I inherited from the previous owner).

Camchain tensioners and TPS: $290
Regulator/Rectifier: $300
Tyres, brake lines, fluids: $750
Exhaust plugs: $60
Clock/voltmeter: $42
Sparkplugs: $63
Airfilter: $35
Vacuum gauges: $145
Brake overhaul: $127
Brake pads and WOF: $139
Oil, filter: $115
Headlight bulb: $19
Battery: $63
Labour: $0
Petroleum distillates: $7,453,652.45

Some of these will be one-off costs, like the vacuum gauges (saved me a minimum of $150 already), the zorst ploogs, the brakelines, the R/R, the TPS and CCTs, and the airfilter (turned the standard paper one into a washable one). Other items won't need replacing for YEARS, like the brakepads. The only items I could have avoided were the CCTs and TPS, and the clock/voltmeter.

[jrandom]

I tell my wife, how much does she spend on the car for gas and what so have you, more fuel and i am doing more travling and her and doing it in alot less time.

If I was firestormer, I wouldn't try the 'it's cheap on gas' approach, given that we worked out last Friday that his VTR gets the same fuel economy as my 3L V6 Camry.

[Cajun]

If I was firestormer, I wouldn't try the 'it's cheap on gas' approach, given that we worked out last Friday that his VTR gets the same fuel economy as my 3L V6 Camry.

my wife can get 250km+ out of her vtr1000f she as 02 model

[Devil]

Is this excessive expenditure for a year? (This includes rectifying some things like tyres, and noisy exhausts, that I inherited from the previous owner).

Camchain tensioners and TPS: $290
Regulator/Rectifier: $300
Tyres, brake lines, fluids: $750
Exhaust plugs: $60
Clock/voltmeter: $42
Sparkplugs: $63
Airfilter: $35
Vacuum gauges: $145
Brake overhaul: $127
Brake pads and WOF: $139
Oil, filter: $115
Headlight bulb: $19
Battery: $63
Labour: $0
Petroleum distillates: $7,453,652.45

Some of these will be one-off costs, like the vacuum gauges (saved me a minimum of $150 already), the zorst ploogs, the brakelines, the R/R, the TPS and CCTs, and the airfilter (turned the standard paper one into a washable one). Other items won't need replacing for YEARS, like the brakepads. The only items I could have avoided were the CCTs and TPS, and the clock/voltmeter.
yeah make a list of stuff that you'd be paying for each year. Of course you have to replace some things occasionally, all part of the riding package.
Do consider this however, if a lot is to do with the other halves nagging, and you get rid of the bike, it'll be just that much harder to get another one. Then its a real big expense!

[vifferman]

If I was firestormer, I wouldn't try the 'it's cheap on gas' approach, given that we worked out last Friday that his VTR gets the same fuel economy as my 3L V6 Camry.But (BUT!!) it does more wheelies per mile than your Camry.
Then there's the fact that my extensive expensive list (apart from the HUGE fuel bill) totals less than the annual depreciation and servicing costs of my wife's car.

[Cajun]

Is this excessive expenditure for a year? (This includes rectifying some things like tyres, and noisy exhausts, that I inherited from the previous owner).

Camchain tensioners and TPS: $290
Regulator/Rectifier: $300
Tyres, brake lines, fluids: $750
Exhaust plugs: $60
Clock/voltmeter: $42
Sparkplugs: $63
Airfilter: $35
Vacuum gauges: $145
Brake overhaul: $127
Brake pads and WOF: $139
Oil, filter: $115
Headlight bulb: $19
Battery: $63
Labour: $0
Petroleum distillates: $7,453,652.45

Some of these will be one-off costs, like the vacuum gauges (saved me a minimum of $150 already), the zorst ploogs, the brakelines, the R/R, the TPS and CCTs, and the airfilter (turned the standard paper one into a washable one). Other items won't need replacing for YEARS, like the brakepads. The only items I could have avoided were the CCTs and TPS, and the clock/voltmeter.

If ya get a second hand vehicle its got to be expecting that you are going to have replace parts. Tires, brakepads and fuel

I mean service parts and wofs are just part of owning a vehicle, plugs, filter

I mean in the 5500kms i have done on my bike it has cost me $407.61 worth of fuel,( i record all my fuel against kms so i know how much each tank of gas i get from 0km
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[vifferman]

my wife can get 250km+ out of her vtr1000f she as 02 modelMust be supercharged or summat; the top speed's only about 230km/h, but might be over 250 indicated....

Oh. OH!! You were talking mpg??!

[Cajun]

Must be supercharged or summat; the top speed's only about 230km/h, but might be over 250 indicated....

Oh. OH!! You were talking mpg??!

Yep talking about mpg here,

[Paul in NZ]

I'm lucky....

I buy endless old munt that needs money spending on it every month and Vicki still hands me my helmet and tells me to go and play and not to come back untill I've used at least 2 tankfulls of gas.... (hey hang on, she's got a bloody boyfriend - nah!)

I don't commute on it of course but theory is the same...

When I get down in the dumps I go play with the bikes in the garge or I go for a ride I come back a better man...

Cheers

ps. Your mileage may differ. Ride your own ride, make your own decisions and no one with any class will think any the less of you! Good luck!

[toads]

I didn't think it was excessively expensive (and I haven't finished customising it yet). And I suspect going for a cheaper bike won't stop the bleating; even the XBR500RS Mutant, which I got for free and which cost me a whole $600 to refurbish caused some moaning. No, if I sell the VTR, that will be that.
I've recently had a holiday in Queenstown, and there's one in Melbourne booked for this weekend for our wedding anniversary, if we're not separated by then (came close this morning...)

Firestormer you have your priorities right mate, your marriage and family has to be your number one priority, no point in becoming a lonely biker eh!!, You can always get back into biking when it isn't a problem for you expense or relationship wise, money hassles are a real bastard. If I win lotto this weekend, I'll definately send some your way, chin up,

[Blakamin]

Put it "Away" for a month...storage or something... and then see how you feel

[vifferman]

Firestormer you have your priorities right mate, your marriage and family has to be your number one priority, no point in becoming a lonely biker eh!!, Well, that's what I've always told Mrs FS, and it's true; if it came to a choice, I'd keep her. Every time she's bleated about the expense, I've said, "Well I'll sell the bloody thing then!", but she thought I was bluffing, trying to make her feel guilty. Truth is, I'd sell it just to get some peace!

You can always get back into biking when it isn't a problem for you expense or relationship wise, money hassles are a real bastard. If I win lotto this weekend, I'll definately send some your way, chin up,Thanx a lot, Toads, but money isn't really an issue. We're both working (Mrs FS earns 50% more than me, and I'm paid very well to be a professional KB contributor...).

[pete376403]

Firestormer you have your priorities right mate, your marriage and family has to be your number one priority, no point in becoming a lonely biker eh!!, You can always get back into biking when it isn't a problem for you expense or relationship wise, money hassles are a real bastard. If I win lotto this weekend, I'll definately send some your way, chin up,

Really? Easier to pick up another woman then buy a new bike (women, initially anyway, are free. But the maintenance costs are horrendous)

[Cajun]

Put it "Away" for a month...storage or something... and then see how you feel

I like this idea, could be one way

Better be off wife here with her vtr so we can ride home

[Devil]

Truth is, I'd sell it just to get some peace!

Good god, do not do it because of that.
Putting it in storage for a month is a good idea, see if you miss it.
Dont get rid of it because of nagging. You owe yourself a far better reason.

[Motoracer]

Thanx a lot, Toads, but money isn't really an issue. We're both working (Mrs FS earns 50% more than me, and I'm paid very well to be a professional KB contributor...).
Errrrrr, remember this:


Why? You want to know WHY??!?!!

Oh.

I've had more than enough grief about the cost of motorbicycling. This more than offsets the enjoyment factor. The latest incident was helmet replacement cost. Evidently, $450 over the last 10 or 11 years, and the prospect of spending a week's worth of groceries on a helmet was a trifle excessive. And "every month you need to buy something for the bike".
I'm not enjoying it much, due to 1 (especially 1) and excessive commuting.

If you'd rather spend your money elsewhere that will make you happier then that's completly fine. You should do that. Do what ever that makes you happy dude! :niceone:

[gav]

Do you commute on your VTR? Does your wife ride on the back of your bike? Other option is maybe sell your VTR and buy a track bike, maybe a NC30 or similar? You could pick up something for about $3-$4 grand? JUst ride it once a month? Even a bucket racer maybe?

[vifferman]

Errrrrr, remember this:


I've had more than enough grief about the cost of motorbicycling. This more than offsets the enjoyment factor. The latest incident was helmet replacement cost. Evidently, $450 over the last 10 or 11 years, and the prospect of spending a week's worth of groceries on a helmet was a trifle excessive. And "every month you need to buy something for the bike".If you'd rather spend your money elsewhere that will make you happier then that's completly fine. You should do that. Do what ever that makes you happy dude! :niceone:
That WAS the point. We can easily afford me owning a toy, but I keep getting bleating about it. This IS what I choose to spend money on. It's cheaper than our skiing holidays, or shopping in Melbourne, but those are OK.:wacko:

[Motoracer]

That WAS the point. We can easily afford me owning a toy, but I keep getting bleating about it. This IS what I choose to spend money on. It's cheaper than our skiing holidays, or shopping in Melbourne, but those are OK.:wacko:Then the problem isn't you or the bike is it?

I am not pointing any fingers cause I don't know the first thing about your Mrs but maybe it's a good idea to have a nice long talk about it with her.

[vifferman]

Do you commute on your VTR? Does your wife ride on the back of your bike? Other option is maybe sell your VTR and buy a track bike, maybe a NC30 or similar? You could pick up something for about $3-$4 grand? JUst ride it once a month? Even a bucket racer maybe?Yes, I commute on my VTR. My wife has started to ride on the back of it, and confesses to enjoying it. I have considered selling the VTR and getting a track bike, but that would be even more of a toy, so the bleating factor vs. usefulness would be all skew-whiff.
This is why, despite our wedding anniversary being this Saturday, it's looking like never happening.:crazy:

[vifferman]

Then the problem isn't you or the bike is it?No kidding.


I am not pointing any fingers cause I don't know the first thing about your Mrs I'm beginning to think the same thing (after 26 years together...)

...but maybe it's a good idea to have a nice long talk about it with her.Well, after this morning's episode, there'll be summat happening tonight.
If I don't post anything on here tomorrow, it means I'm dead.:crazy:

[Motoracer]

There will be something behind what you may not be seeing right now. Nothing ever happens with out a cause. It may seem that you are the "victim" right now but who knows what the WHOLE story is... It's up to you two to figure it all out and work things out.

Good luck mate!

[Paul in NZ]

Stuff me... This is complex and un expected... Perhaps you could tell her you decided that she is right and that the bike HAS to go. In fact, you found a NEW hobby and then pull out a copy of "Gay Girls in Bondage", Amatuer Taxidermist (nice feature on stuffing kittens), or something equally digusting like "Model Train Monthly" (Naked steam engines this month - oh err)....

Either that or tell her your new buddy Pastor Tamaki wants 10% anyway.

ie LIE!

Point is... Some folk don't like seeing other people having fun.... If moneys not the real issue... You better find out what is.. Once she gets rid of the bike, next it will be the porn collection, then all those old Stones LP's and the beer can collection... NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Christ! She'll have you wearing a pinny and on a BLOODY HONDA soon...

Oh... Hang on.....

:-)

Just kidding....

[riffer]

No kidding.

I'm beginning to think the same thing (after 26 years together...)
Well, after this morning's episode, there'll be summat happening tonight.
If I don't post anything on here tomorrow, it means I'm dead.:crazy:
Good luck for tonight FS.

Whatever you decide, I hope it brings you happiness and fulfillment...:mellow:

[Marmoot]

erm....I find cost a bit too much as well.....especially tires and REGO

At the moment I haven't been riding for 2 months due to expired WOF (don't wanna get caught), not even commuting coz if the parking warden finds out then I'd be $200 worse off.
Why I didn't get WOF? coz friggin tires are off and would cost me $400+
Plus cant get the time to arrange for the new tires to be installed

And after those friggin $400 I would still have to pay a friggin $250 to rego the bike....

I mean, I don't mind paying $400 (once I have the money) coz I would get something out of it......but $250 for the friggin rego???

[Eddieb]

Geez, thats more expensive to run than my Duke, at least till this thursday and I get the bill for the service then we'll see.

For me I've always said I'd never sell my bike for a woman, luckily I've never been tested on it so haven't had to live up to it. I've seen a few mates who have though and regretted it ever since.

But when it comes down to it it's a big part of what makes me me, and makes me tick, smile, helps me relax, and on a really good day grin stupidly from ear to ear.

Good luck for tonight, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes either way it goes.

[James Deuce]

Hmmm - difficult one.

I spent 10 years in self imposed exile and it made me miserable.

Once you've been bitten by the bike bug the alternative (no bike) is infinitely less satisfying in ways you never expect. I spent 10 years going on holiday with the wife saying things like, "This road would be great on a bike", and "I'd already be where we are going if I was on a bike", and "If I was on a bike this line of cars would have been banished 230kms ago".

I suspect it gets so boring they HAVE to let you have a bike. Like Paul, Heather knows I would be more annoying, not less, without a bike.

Up to you, but think very carefully about the whole thing. Maybe stop commuting on the bike for a bit so you're only doing the fun thing.

[Blakamin]

Hmmm - difficult one.


I suspect it gets so boring they HAVE to let you have a bike. Like Paul, Heather knows I would be more annoying, not less, without a bike.



My mrs would be sick of me in 5 minutes if i didnt have the bike.... the only time shes annoyed is when i keep her awake from the garage by moving tools.
when i didnt have my bike, i'd just drink and moan "i'm bored" on weekends...
now i drink less and only moan when its pissing down.

Do you have other hobbies to go on with, firestormer?
or is it a "not enough time together" thing?

anyway, good luck for tonite

[Ms Piggy]

Anyone want to buy a FahrtSturm? I'm seriously considering chucking in bikes for good. :bye:

Is now a good time to sell, or should I wait until the weather gets better?

Maybe you should just take a break. Don't give up mate :crybaby:

[fastford111]

just get rid of the number 1 pain in the ass and it will all be good again :eek:

[Hooks]

Take it from one who's been there .... I gave up and mothballed mine 14 years ago to get some peace at home ...... but she ended up finding something else to moan about and gave in then too .... after setting the precedent I was on a hiding to nothing .... in the end she fucked off anyway ... and now I have peace & quiet .....AND I have my bike back on the road ...as well as soon hopefully getting it on the track .... the moral of the story is ..... live your own life the way it was when you met her and if she can't live with it then she's the one that made the mistake ... move on ... there are plenty of good women out there that don't want to change you ....so go get one !!!

Either way good luck .....

[MD]

Always disappointing to hear someone is giving up on bikes. I don't know you FS so I wont risk commenting on life's trials and tribulations. Just wish you well. There is some good advice here such as parking it up for a month, wait until summer. A bit of fine weather always brightens our perspective. I had a firestorm too so I can comment that mine was expensive for servicing, ate tyres for in-between meal snacks and sucked gas so fast the sunction could collapse the tank. You said money wasn't the issue so perhaps a fresh bike will cheer you and her indoors up? Works for me (Ok, maybe not her). Maybe a better bike for the commute/passenger. Life without a bike may just make matters worse, not better so have a think about how having no bike will improve your situation?

[Jackrat]

Mate,Iv'e never been there myself but Iv'e seen mates give up riding because
of women an they've all been sorry they did it,the worse thing is that a few of them had broken marriages/relationships not long after.I don't know you or your other half but before you chuck in some thing you love make damn sure that's really the problem and not something deeper.
On the purely bike front I also have a hard time keeping up with modern costs an trends.My solution was to buy an older bike and ride it less,only quality time sort of thing.
What ever you do,Good luck.

[badlieutenant]

Take it from one who's been there .... I gave up and mothballed mine 14 years ago to get some peace at home ...... but she ended up finding something else to moan about and gave in then too .... after setting the precedent I was on a hiding to nothing .... in the end she fucked off anyway ... and now I have peace & quiet .....AND I have my bike back on the road ...as well as soon hopefully getting it on the track .... the moral of the story is ..... live your own life the way it was when you met her and if she can't live with it then she's the one that made the mistake ... move on ... there are plenty of good women out there that don't want to change you ....so go get one !!!

Either way good luck .....
dito. couldnt afford to run my bike as i was putting ex thru uni. retrospectively i think in doing so it helped to make the relationship diminish and die. Your relationship is important but retaining your identity and freedoms within a relationship is a delicate ballancing act. If YOU enjoy riding a bike and some of the self identity that goes with it then calling your own bluff to sell isnt going to hurt her but in the long term hurt both of you. Some of the other comments point to another cause. Seems she focusing on what you do alot, does she have her own seperate interests ? just a thought. hope it pans out well for you mate.

[Ms Piggy]

That WAS the point. We can easily afford me owning a toy, but I keep getting bleating about it. This IS what I choose to spend money on. It's cheaper than our skiing holidays, or shopping in Melbourne, but those are OK.:wacko:
Hmmmmmm...this sounds more like a relationship/marriage issue than a bike issue.

[Ms Piggy]

Oh I see I was a bit behind the 8 ball here - sorry just read the rest of the thread.

Definitely don't give it up if it's b/c you feel you HAVE to keep her happy, you'll only end up resenting her.

[Racey Rider]

If you do decide to go without bike for a month or two, rather than pay someone 100 bucks to store it for you, why not rent it out to someone.
Someone like ME for example! :yeah:
I'm sure I can come up with 100 bucks to rent the VTR for a couple of months!

If it helps you out in this time of trouble that is. :msn-wink:

Good Luck.
Racey.

[Posh Tourer :P]

I know the fun factor for me was much greater on the CB125T rather than the beemer for commuting.... It's just that the CB couldnt really go anywhere apart from town and short motorway stretches...

Perhaps a smaller bike would up the fun factor?

Then again, it sounds like you are over the hill of expense on the fahrtsturm anyway, so it'd be a bit of a waste to sell it

[toads]

Mate,Iv'e never been there myself but Iv'e seen mates give up riding because
of women an they've all been sorry they did it,the worse thing is that a few of them had broken marriages/relationships not long after.I don't know you or your other half but before you chuck in some thing you love make damn sure that's really the problem and not something deeper.
On the purely bike front I also have a hard time keeping up with modern costs an trends.My solution was to buy an older bike and ride it less,only quality time sort of thing.
What ever you do,Good luck.

this is very wise advice Jackrat, you're a bit of a philosopher ain't ya!!

[Shafted]

...and more than a little ominous - what with the

'If I don't post anything on here tomorrow, it means I'm dead.'

:eek5:

He wasn't serious was he? You never know these days

Sounds to me like there is some great advice being shared here

For what its worth, it seems to me part of the deal is deciding whether you are the sort of person who just rides bikes or the sort of person who is a biker - it is not pejorative difference, more philosophical - if you just ride bikes (and fix them and so on) giving up bikes may not be a big deal - but if you are a biker, giving up bikes is just a bad idea and you are just fooling yourself, and her.

Sounds to me like you are a biker

Hope that everything works out ok mate

[Dodgyiti]

I stopped riding for 3 years, told myself it was time to move on, but it was always in my blood no matter what I threw myself into. And when you do get back in the saddle, you wonder what the reasons were in the first place.
If commuting gets you down, then buy a cheap, gutless,ugly, but cheap to run commuter bike. Then save the main bike for pure pleasure riding. Dunno, worked for me in the past.
Oh, I remember why I stopped riding, I made myself stop until I was fully recovered from my one and only accident, it took 3 years is all. :niceone:
And my long suffering lady says I'm a lot better to live with now I'm on 2 wheels again, not sure why though? :wacko:

[Eddieb]

...and more than a little ominous - what with the

'If I don't post anything on here tomorrow, it means I'm dead.'

:eek5:

He wasn't serious was he? You never know these days

Well he's alive, having posted on several other threads.

[vifferman]

Well he's alive, having posted on several other threads.Oh yeah - here I am. Sorry, Shafted - didn't mean to cause alarm.
Sorted it out at lunchtime.
Seems all Mrs FS wanted was for me to acknowledge that the FahrtSturm was costing quite a bit (averaging $168/month so far, which should drop now that all the unusual one-off expenses are eliminated). I still offered to sell it, but she's dying to try out her new leather suit, so I'll have to keep it for a bit.
Until the "next one" (which is weird, given that my last bike was decreed to be "the very last one. Ever.")

...and more than a little ominous - what with the

'If I don't post anything on here tomorrow, it means I'm dead.'

:eek5:

He wasn't serious was he? Yes.

[Eddieb]

Well thats good to hear, glad you guys communicated and got it sorted. 26 years is a long time to waste.

[James Deuce]

Phew

Give Mrs Fahrtsturmer a hug from me.

[Blakamin]

YAY :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Ms Piggy]

I love happy endings! :love: Well done!! :2thumbsup

[aff-man]

Noice one buddy things seem to be looking up :doctor:

[MikeL]

Your posts were starting to show the typical symptoms of clinical depression...
(That will be $45 for the diagnosis, thank you...)
Glad things are looking up!
Remember, it's not what happens to you that matters. It's what you make of it...

[toads]

this is great news fs, communication is a wonderful thing, I'm so glad everything is sorted, 26years is a wonderfully long time to be married, and I'd like to congratulate you and Mrs fs on that account.

[tassle]

see this place is full of nice people, and it sure beats tv, glad to see it all worked out.

[badlieutenant]

excellent news fs, bummer i didnt get to suggest a motard for you and a valium for her :D

[scumdog]

Good one F/F, keep the lines of comunication open always.

This time is depressing for all, it's the long lack of sunlight and winter dragging on, I get a bit grouchy myself but in a few weeks when days are longer and there's a bit of sun things look a bit cheerier.

As some said, parking up the bike for a bit can give you breathing space AND puts an even bigger smile on your face when you DO get back on your scoot.

Glad you and your doris have sorted things out, hope things stay that way :niceone:

[moko]

I`ll go with Jackrat on this one, the bike was probably never the problem it probably just got used in your argument/disagreement/problem. If you were sacrificing something here, i.e. you`re family were going without something because of the expense of your bike then yeah, she`d have a point. You`ve already stated that you`re relatively affluent people. Often in relationships power-struggles can develope without either party realising it and on the surface that`s rarely what is intended. If you`d got rid of your bike there are a few scenarios, A: She`d be happy and all would be sweetness and light. B: You`d be resentful and then eventually things would boil over or C: You`d find out the hard way that the bike was never the real problem and you`d be bikeless while some other aspect of your life became the object of displeasure. If she was dead set on the bike going because of the expense then a compramise would have been the best thing. I`d advertise it and encourage something cheaper in p/ex. There`s as much fun to be had getting the best out of something like say an old ZXR400 as there is out of looking good because your machine is taking everything in it`s stride at about 60% of it`s capabilities, and it takes a lot more skill as well. I`ve had bad times but always managed to have at least something on 2 wheels. I had a heap of an RXS100 Yammy years back due to extreme poverty, that`s a bargain basement commuter bike and boy was it fun,had some great laughs bouncing around on it despite looking pretty ridiculous. One of my best biking memories is tagging some guy on a GSXR750 through the city centre, he`d leave me for dead until the next set of lights when I`d pull alongside him again revving the arse off of the little Yam. OR you could have got yourself a dirt bike for the trip to work and a whole new way of having fun in your spare time. having been poor,and no doubt being so again at some point, my view is that if you`re lucky enough to be able to do something you enjoy then do it because it may not always be that way. Dont want to appear rude to yourself or your wife but it seems from the outside that a bit of gameplaying has been going on here,as I said before though more than likely unconsciously. If you`d decided to sell your bike to please your wife and for arguments sake some guy at work, on here or whatever, had said "Hey mate, got the cash I`ll take it". You`d probably have got home and announced the sale of your bike and been met with a stunned silence.Here`s where the girls here bawl me out but I`d lay any money that the first thing she would have said would be "What did you do that for?"

[Lou Girardin]

All it takes for a happy marriage is to say "I'm wrong, you're right" at frequent intervals. Flowers and chocolates at certain times are also a good idea. (So I'm told. Wish I could remember to do it)

[Paul in NZ]

I still offered to sell it, but she's dying to try out her new leather suit, so I'll have to keep it for a bit.

What a crock!

Tell her you don't need to wait for a ride on the bike to try out that leather suit darling (especially after watching catwoman)....

Then see what reaction you get.....

:Punk:

[vifferman]

Tell her you don't need to wait for a ride on the bike to try out that leather suit darling (especially after watching catwoman)....

Then see what reaction you get.....:killingme

All it takes for a happy marriage is to say "I'm wrong, you're right" at frequent intervals. Flowers and chocolates at certain times are also a good idea.I actually thought part of this was an "I'm wrong, you're right" situation, but apparently not. Part of it was I wasn't enthusiastic about our anniversary trip to Melbourne tomorrow "Yay!! Only one more sleep to go!!" :2thumbsup :banana: :banana: (was that enthusiastic enough?) and part was about me talking about a new helmet (instead of being enthusiastic about the trip, etc etc.) and part of it was me being "uncommunicative". (I should sign her up for KB, as I think I'm in no danger of being "uncommunicative" on here....)

Your posts were starting to show the typical symptoms of clinical depression...
(That will be $45 for the diagnosis, thank you...)
Glad things are looking up!
Remember, it's not what happens to you that matters. It's what you make of it...Actually, Mike, I've been battling depression for years now, and had nearly every antipressant available (apart from the one the $250/hour 'specialist' gave me that was two years past expiry date and had no instructions ! I looked it up on the Interweb, and hundreds of hits of lawsuits resulting from chronic liver failure turned up! So I chucked it in the bin, and stopped seeing Dr. Quacko.)
Currently, I'm interspersing periods of taking nothing, with periods of using herbal remedies (St Johns Wort and Griffonia). I'm doing OK, I guess.

This time is depressing for all, it's the long lack of sunlight and winter dragging on, I get a bit grouchy myself but in a few weeks when days are longer and there's a bit of sun things look a bit cheerier.Indeed - it's actually a known 'malady' called SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder). Your sleep/wake patterns, neurone activity and state of well-being are all linked to serotonin, production of which is aided by sunshine, and which helps to set your body's circadian rhythms.

As some said, parking up the bike for a bit can give you breathing space AND puts an even bigger smile on your face when you DO get back on your scoot.I've decided (mostly from comments on here) to not ride quite so much, and had already given up riding on wet days, not because I'm a wuss, but because I don't enjoy it and it increases the danger factor when commuting. Not riding so much will also save on running costs, which will help with the household budget.

Glad you and your doris have sorted things out, hope things stay that way Thanx, Mr Dog - I'm sure they will.

Phew Give Mrs Fahrtsturmer a hug from me.Too late. I've already given her summat else, from me.:whistle:

EddieB/Toads: It's 22 years married, 26 together. It seems to have gone so fast...

Thanx, everyone, for all your advice and kind wishes. I feel a bit of a dick venting in public like this, but I was very upset the other day, and had no-one I could talk to about it.
You're all Top Blokes (or Blokesses, if you don't like Bloke).:niceone:

[Racey Rider]

If you do decide to go without bike for a month or two, rather than pay someone 100 bucks to store it for you, why not rent it out to someone.
Someone like ME for example! :yeah:
I'm sure I can come up with 100 bucks to rent the VTR for a couple of months!

If it helps you out in this time of trouble that is. :msn-wink:

Good Luck.
Racey.


Alright! For the 100 bucks, I'll take the VTR AND the wife for two months!

Can't be fair'er than that!! ;)

Well Done That Man. :niceone:

[Blakamin]

:killingme


Thanx, everyone, for all your advice and kind wishes. I feel a bit of a dick venting in public like this, but I was very upset the other day, and had no-one I could talk to about it.
You're all Top Blokes (or Blokesses, if you don't like Bloke).:niceone:

Its always good to talk to someone, and this way you at least have the benefit of many opinions
:niceone:

Best of everything for your weekend! :yeah:

[Paul in NZ]

Top Blokes[/b] (or Blokesses, if you don't like Bloke).:niceone:

Dude....

That (and porno) is about the only useful thing the interweb thingy is for...

Now... While I'm on my soap box...

One of the down side of modern living is that we don't seem to have much of a handle on a lot of issues. Depression is one of them. While I'm not quite bi polar I do get into a very dark place that has been descriped as borderline depression. Thats an odd description by a doctor that is seeing someone that is now feeling better?? Oh well....

Our (the royal our) relationships seem to be the first thing that suffers during the fits of darkness that the pressure of life brings on! Perhaps it is increased expectations? Maybe lots of things?? Who knows...

The one thing that works for me is gentle exercise and talking. Fortunately I'm real good at talking and we have an enthusiastic dog! On a typical grumpy day, we complain at each other all the way down the beach, sulk at the grassy place where Bo chases fast rabbits and hold hands on the way back! Well, it works for us...

So no need to feel like a dick mate... Frankly I think we are all better off for you having the balls to share....

Paul N

[vifferman]

One of the down side of modern living is that we don't seem to have much of a handle on a lot of issues. Depression is one of them.
The one thing that works for me is gentle exercise and talking. Fortunately I'm real good at talking and we have an enthusiastic dog! On a typical grumpy day, we complain at each other all the way down the beach, sulk at the grassy place where Bo chases fast rabbits and hold hands on the way back! Well, it works for us...
Can I borrow Bo? I really miss having a dog, but with no-one at home most of the time, it wouldn't be fair to have one. Our dog's picture is stuck on my cubicle wall, because I miss him, and to remind me to be patient. My impatience caused him to be run over by a car right in front of me, about 6 years ago.
Oh... that's not a good thing to mention, after asking to borrow your dog, is it?:doh: :Oops:

Lack of exercise in our modern life is a partial trigger for depression, and conversely, exercise can be beneficial in treating depression, due to the endorphins it releases. If you're feeling disgruntled, then a good gruntling can help....

[Mongoose]

:killingme
Thanx, everyone, for all your advice and kind wishes. I feel a bit of a dick venting in public like this, but I was very upset the other day, and had no-one I could talk to about it.
You're all Top Blokes (or Blokesses, if you don't like Bloke).:niceone:

Came in to this one late, followed it and am glad you got things sorted.
To apologies for venting on here is bollocks man, you are probabley suprised how much it helped your thought paterns sort themselves out. Other would have gone down the pub, got pissed and sorted nothing.
Good to see the bunch all chip in and show some compassion.
Luck to ya
Cheers
Mongoose

[gav]

hey, you could always buy the new helmet while in Melbourne, job sorted!

[Paul in NZ]

Can I borrow Bo? I really miss having a dog, but with no-one at home most of the time, it wouldn't be fair to have one. Our dog's picture is stuck on my cubicle wall, because I miss him, and to remind me to be patient. My impatience caused him to be run over by a car right in front of me, about 6 years ago.
Oh... that's not a good thing to mention, after asking to borrow your dog, is it?:doh: :Oops:

Lack of exercise in our modern life is a partial trigger for depression, and conversely, exercise can be beneficial in treating depression, due to the endorphins it releases. If you're feeling disgruntled, then a good gruntling can help....

BWAHAHAHA.....

Thats pretty good... I'm trying not to do a Jim2 giggle now...

Poor old Bo did get run over by a 4wd when my useless older daughter was being even more useless and clueless than usual (they all go through that someplace in the 15 to 18 bracket) and was supposed to be walking her but was loitering and snatching a sly ciggie...

Bo's back was broken and I'm not sure she will live to a ripe old age but she's doing pretty good. (too fat to catch healthy rabbits) Her tail never quite reconnected right. It does not move or wag much except when she is hungry? :disapint:

Oh well...

Paul N

Bo had a tough act to follow with our first dog though. Rhubarb was a VERY loveable one in a million muttly! Only dog allowed at school (special permission) and when she finally passed away (15) was greatly missed by the neighbourhood. I suppose she would have been nabbed by the council nazis these days but she had a regular beat of OAP's she visited for a free feed and a cuddle and they used to call up to arrange visits!

[Eddieb]

she had a regular beat of OAP's she visited for a free feed and a cuddle and they used to call up to arrange visits!

We had a ginger cat called Tigger in Hamilton like that. One of our next door neighbours had had several strokes and had not been given too much time.

Tigger used to have kippers for dinner every wednesday night there and would wander over at about 5 to 2 every afternoon and curl up on the old guys lap for his (the old guys) aftenoon nap.

[LB]

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Firestormer: I hope things are okay with you now. Take care. And I'm with the others - don't worry about venting on here - holy hell, we've all been through some shit in our lives and it we can't empathise/whatever with our fellow biker then things are pretty sad!

I hope things continue to go well for you and Mrs F.
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