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Ixion
1st May 2007, 15:31
Bloody (literally) hell. Went down the road to the shops. And half way there my ruddy (literally) nose starts streaming blood like a fire hydrant.

By the time I got stopped and got my helmet off, it was covered in blood (inside) .

How do you remove blood from the inside of a helmet?

Damn thing wouldn't stop bleeding for ages, I was sitting at the road side , drip-drip-dripping for at least 20 minutes.

And it's *still* bleeding slightly. As well as the nose being all clogged up with hard dried blood.

Never had THAT happen before. Nosebleeds and full face helmets are fundamentally incompatible.

I hope it's stopped bleeding by the time I have to go home.

EDIT : Also how do you remove blood from bike plastics. It doesn't seem to wipe cleanly off.

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 15:33
Probably brain overload due to the 'Zero Tolerance' thread ixi.......:yes:

Mr. Peanut
1st May 2007, 15:33
At least you didn't sneeze.

Ixion
1st May 2007, 15:35
Actually I did . Before I realised what was happening. That didn't help.

Ixion
1st May 2007, 15:36
Probably brain overload due to the 'Zero Tolerance' thread ixi.......:yes:

Yes. That's what I need. A drink. Good idea. For medicinal purposes. And Speights has lots of iron in it, after all that exsanguination I'm bound to be iron deficient now.

Phurrball
1st May 2007, 15:37
Mebbe soaking with laundry detergent - many have enzymes that should help 'gobble' up the protein. Possibly stain removers too?

There's always that 'tech wash' stuff meant for riding gear and other sports equipment - pretty sure it claims to remove blood amongst other things.

Nothing too hot though, that'd denature the blood proteins and 'cook' the stain in.

Hope you're okay dude - bleeding noses are never fun...

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 15:38
You may want to go see a doctor ixion, seriously.

If it does not stop within 5-10 mins somethings wrong.

I had heaps at school (got me out of class ;) ) but found out I had a weak vein in my nose - a quick head movement or a finger :shutup: would set it off. Ended up getting it quarterised.

I would use a diluted solution of bleach for your bike and wash it down with a hose straight after. As for you helmet, if you can remove the liner it is easier - soak it in antiseptic or something similar.

Mr. Peanut
1st May 2007, 15:39
It's the coke habit isn't it?

MSTRS
1st May 2007, 15:42
Ended up getting it quarterised.



Sounds painful and disfiguring. In the country, doctors cauterise weak nasal vessels....

Devil
1st May 2007, 15:42
You may want to go see a doctor ixion, seriously.

If it does not stop within 5-10 mins somethings wrong.

I had heaps at school (got me out of class ;) ) but found out I had a weak vein in my nose - a quick head movement or a finger :shutup: would set it off. Ended up getting it quarterised.
.
Had the same problem myself, quick temperature changes would set it off too. Ran into lake Taupo once, damn chilly, turned around to face the shore, about waist deep and my family is just standing there with their mouths open, I looked down and there was blood all down my chest into the water.

imdying
1st May 2007, 15:43
Is that like having it cauterized Dan? :lol:

Initially scrub it out with hot soapy water Ixion. See what's left.

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 15:43
Yes. That's what I need. A drink. Good idea. For medicinal purposes. And Speights has lots of iron in it, after all that exsanguination I'm bound to be iron deficient now.

I am not sure about iron deficient matey...he he.......cokes are on me......

ManDownUnder
1st May 2007, 15:44
From http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to-remove-blood-stains.htm

Remove Blood Stains From:
Acrylic Plastic, Aluminum, Asphalt, Brass, Bronze,
Ceramic Glass/Tile, Chromium, Copper, Coral, Cork,
Enamel, Glass, Gold, lron, Ivory, Jade, Linoleum,
Opal, Paint/Flat, Paint/Gloss, Pearls, Pewter, Platinum,
Plexiglas, Polyurethane, Porcelain, Stainless Steel, Tin,
Vinyl Clothing, Vinyl Tile, Vinyl Wallcovering, Zinc

Wipe up blood stain with a sponge or cloth dipped in cool water or warm sudsy water. Dry with a clean cloth.

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 15:45
Sounds painful and disfiguring. In the country, doctors cauterise weak nasal vessels....


Is that like having it cauterized Dan? :lol:

Initially scrub it out with hot soapy water Ixion. See what's left.

*groans* yes.... geesh.

Big Dave
1st May 2007, 15:45
What's yer blood pressure like?

skelstar
1st May 2007, 15:45
Hmmm...don't watch House in the next couple of weeks...won't do anything for your confidence.

Mr. Peanut
1st May 2007, 15:45
What's yer blood pressure like?

My thoughts exactly.

90s
1st May 2007, 15:46
Speights has lots of iron in it, after all that exsanguination I'm bound to be iron deficient now.

Guinness, that'll do the trick. (in the old days when my mother was pregnant with me she was officially prescribed a bottle of murphys a day as an iron supplement. Probably explains a lot - ie. my embarrassing moment thread)

I had nosebleeds for a while at one stage. My GP said they could be a sign of health rather than not (WTF?), but although this seems crazy, unless you have another incident I might not worry about it too much.

My sinal passages are so crap I'm still partly deaf after last week's long-haul flight, and sometimes an improbable amount of seawater shoots out of my nose up to 5 days after I've been scuba diving. Also not great in a helment, but easier to clean than blood.
Still, riding a blood-stained steed you'll look rock-hard.

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 15:47
I have a spare Nolan size large if you need it. PM me is you are interested.

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 15:48
(in the old days when my brother was pregnant with me he was officially prescribed a bottle of murphys a day as an iron supplement.

My eyes must be going. Thats what I read. oh geeesh...

90s
1st May 2007, 15:49
My eyes must be going. Thats what I read. oh geeesh...

my mother is my brother? I'm not from kentucky you know.

Sniper
1st May 2007, 15:50
What's yer blood pressure like?

What I thought


My thoughts exactly.

Damn, beaten to it

bert_is_evil
1st May 2007, 15:51
How about the possible urban myth that cops in the US use coca cola to remove blood from the road, perhaps that would work in your helmet? Then you only have to get the sticky coca cola out...

90s
1st May 2007, 15:53
How about the possible urban myth that cops in the US use coca cola to remove blood from the road, perhaps that would work in your helmet? Then you only have to get the sticky coca cola out...

Red wine'll get the coke out.
White wine will get the red out.

Leaves you with a mildy acoholic helmet smelling of cat's piss. Result all round.

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 15:54
Run the bath. Jump in with your gear on... ?

Finn
1st May 2007, 16:04
About half an hour ago, I ripped the head off a moderators voodoo doll. Sorry Ixion. Dunno why it went for you though. Have you moved some threads around lately?

tri boy
1st May 2007, 16:05
Do some more Bolivian marching powder and you won't care.:drool:

Ixion
1st May 2007, 16:15
What's yer blood pressure like?

Buggered if I know. Can't be too low , though, if the pipework's bursting.

Y'reckon the pressure relief valve might be stuck closed ? Dunno how you adjust it though. On the Triumph a sharp rap on the valve body with a hammer did the trick. Maybe I'll give m'self a rap on the head.

I do know I was as hot as a broiled lobster at the time, due to an unfortunate decision this morning that it was going to be a really cold day , needing my heavy jacket and woolies. And an interminable meeting in a room with the heating cranked right up.

So maybe the oil overheated.

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 16:18
Buggered if I know. Can't be too low , though, if the pipework's bursting.

Y'reckon the pressure relief valve might be stuck closed ? Dunno how you adjust it though. On the Triumph a sharp rap on the valve body with a hammer did the trick. Maybe I'll give m'self a rap on the head.

I do know I was as hot as a broiled lobster at the time, due to an unfortunate decision this morning that it was going to be a really cold day , needing my heavy jacket and woolies. And an interminable meeting in a room with the heating cranked right up.

So maybe the oil overheated.

Sounds like an oil change is on the cards...

Give "buffy" a PM, she may "know people"

Horney1
1st May 2007, 16:19
If you haven't tried anything else yet try blotting it with a tissue and warm water with a bit of salt dissolved in it. About a small teaspoon per liter I seem to recall. (0.85g/100ml approximates isotonic or the same salt strength as our blood). The trick is to not break those little red cells and spew out the haemoglobin (high iron component).

If you've tried other things first this probably won't work.

Big Dave
1st May 2007, 16:21
Buggered if I know. Can't be too low , though, if the pipework's bursting.




get it checked, pal. soonish.

xwhatsit
1st May 2007, 16:43
Did they give you a lot of funny drugs with the whole pneumonia thing? You're probably finished with them now, but my mum had pneumonia a long time ago and the drugs they gave her caused (among some of the side effects) nose bleeding.

Definitely go to the doctor, though. A pain in the arse, I dislike medical places immensely, but it could be part of a whole bunch of conditions, especially if it doesn't stop.

Lots of medication can cause that, though. Heart medication (like those blood thinning stuffs) is a particular one.

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 16:50
About half an hour ago, I ripped the head off a moderators voodoo doll. Sorry Ixion. Dunno why it went for you though. Have you moved some threads around lately?

His head did not come off though..........

Finn
1st May 2007, 16:53
His head did not come off though..........

Practice makes perfect.

Ixion
1st May 2007, 16:54
Well, that was a mistake. Thought that as it'd been stopped for a couple of hours I'd be safe to blow my nose to get rid of the dried blood n stuff. Which started it bleeding again. Though it's pretty much stopped after 5 minutes or so this time.

What a ruddy nuisance. Must be a bid bit of design i reckon

Finn
1st May 2007, 16:58
Well, that was a mistake. Thought that as it'd been stopped for a couple of hours I'd be safe to blow my nose to get rid of the dried blood n stuff. Which started it bleeding again. Though it's pretty much stopped after 5 minutes or so this time.

What a ruddy nuisance. Must be a bid bit of design i reckon

Just out of interest, how's your left leg?

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 17:00
Practice makes perfect.

Ya got a long way to go then:gob: :bye:

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 17:00
Just out of interest, how's your left leg?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Finn again.

Ixion
1st May 2007, 17:00
Well, it's odd you shhould ask that. I seem to have delevoped a sort of tic in my left leg. Everytime I see a short person my left leg kicks out on its own accord and kicks the short person in the goolies. Heaven knows why that is. Why d'y' ask

Finn
1st May 2007, 17:03
Why d'y' ask

Because I was using the left leg of the voodoo doll and kicking it's nose with it.

Disco Dan
1st May 2007, 17:10
http://tinyurl.com/3clrwd


mwhahahahaha!!!!!

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 17:13
Because I was using the left leg of the voodoo doll and kicking it's nose with it.

:zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz:

Indiana_Jones
1st May 2007, 17:16
.........


<img src="http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/kwellerblood.jpg">

.........Why? :p

-Indy

Finn
1st May 2007, 17:19
:zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz: :zzzz:

I just stuck a baseball bat into the arse of a tubby gay voodoo doll. You didn't feel a thing right?

yungatart
1st May 2007, 17:21
Ixion, never having met you, I don't want to offend...but a bleeding nose can be fixed quite simply by having someone else pull your hair tightly at the crown of your head and holding it for a minute or so...this, of course, assumes that you still have hair to pull.
If not, disregard the above advice.

Grahameeboy
1st May 2007, 17:22
I just stuck a baseball bat into the arse of a tubby gay voodoo doll. You didn't feel a thing right?

Well I know one thing if it was a baseball bat, it was not you buddy..................

Mom
1st May 2007, 17:24
Is that like having it cauterized Dan? :lol:

Initially scrub it out with hot soapy water Ixion. See what's left.

No! not the hot water!! lots of cold/tepid water with a little detergent, you will need to flush it many, many times to get the blood out


Well, that was a mistake. Thought that as it'd been stopped for a couple of hours I'd be safe to blow my nose to get rid of the dried blood n stuff. Which started it bleeding again. Though it's pretty much stopped after 5 minutes or so this time.

What a ruddy nuisance. Must be a bid bit of design i reckon

Dont blow your nose!!!! Tomorrow morning make an appointment to see your local doctor, explain what happened. He will most likely put a burning hot stick up your nose to seal the bleeder. :yes: Well thats what I used to tell my kids anyway, the reality is a bit of gauze with a non painful aneasthetic on it up your nose for a bit then a really cold stick, which you wont feel anyway. He will also check the trusty blood pressure while you are there as well. What ever, DONT BLOW YOUR NOSE!!

:love: Mom

Ixion
1st May 2007, 17:28
Ixion, never having met you, I don't want to offend...but a bleeding nose can be fixed quite simply by having someone else pull your hair tightly at the crown of your head and holding it for a minute or so...this, of course, assumes that you still have hair to pull.
If not, disregard the above advice.

I still have hair. But I suspect that asking a passing random stranger to pull it might get an undesired response.

Maybe I can pull it myself.

Better still. Mr Finn, will you please pulkl the hair of that voodoo doll at the crown of the head.

thanks

Scouse
1st May 2007, 17:35
Dont blow your nose!!!! Tomorrow morning make an appointment to see your local doctor, explain what happened. What ever, DONT BLOW YOUR NOSE!!:love:MomIs he alowed to fart then?

Mom
1st May 2007, 17:37
Is he alowed to fart then?

I think remembering back to my anatomy lessons that indeed the arsehole is a fair distance from the nostril...........farting should be fine......LOL

BuFfY
1st May 2007, 19:19
Sounds like an oil change is on the cards...

Give "buffy" a PM, she may "know people"

Who would I know?!!?

Sanx
1st May 2007, 19:30
I think remembering back to my anatomy lessons that indeed the arsehole is a fair distance from the nostril.

Judging by some of the comments I read on KB every day, I'm not so sure about that...

oldrider
1st May 2007, 19:49
Bloody (literally) hell. Went down the road to the shops. And half way there my ruddy (literally) nose starts streaming blood like a fire hydrant.

By the time I got stopped and got my helmet off, it was covered in blood (inside) .

How do you remove blood from the inside of a helmet?

Damn thing wouldn't stop bleeding for ages, I was sitting at the road side , drip-drip-dripping for at least 20 minutes.

And it's *still* bleeding slightly. As well as the nose being all clogged up with hard dried blood.

Never had THAT happen before. Nosebleeds and full face helmets are fundamentally incompatible.

I hope it's stopped bleeding by the time I have to go home.

EDIT : Also how do you remove blood from bike plastics. It doesn't seem to wipe cleanly off.

Nose bleeds?? You will be breaking out in pimples next, are your balls dropping at long last?

As they say in the cheese adds, good things take time but you might just be a very late developer! :shutup: Cheers John.

Swoop
1st May 2007, 20:20
...with a non painful aneasthetic...
Mr Ixion has already prescribed himself a medium dosage of highly medicinal Speights.

As the only responsible healthcare professional on this site, I totally endorse this course of treatment. If you require a presciption for your local, let me know... :whistle:

MaxCannon
1st May 2007, 20:46
Don't laugh but I have a cure for nose bleeds that actually works.

At Judo you often get smacked in the nose, especailly if you fight a clumsy bastard like me

To stop nose bleeds we'd hold the nose closed with one hand to stop blood going everywhere. Then tip your head forwards so you are looking at your feet, with your other hand use the fleshy part on the opposite side to you thumb and lightly tap at the base of your neck until the bleeding stops.
The tapping should only be quick and not too hard.

Hard to explain in words bascially it looks like you are trying to chop your neck in the same way Karate guys chop bits of wood with their hand.

First time I saw it I thought it was a joke but it really does work.

As for cleaning blood - ask someone's Mum. Mums always know how to clean blood off clothing.

hobdar
1st May 2007, 21:06
ok i suffer from nose bleeds often during season changes and when i get really hot.....

Two things, never blow nose......or sneeze if you can help it........

If you have access to running super cold water stick your wrists under while holding your nose......i suspect that it shrinks the blood vessels and slows the flow helping clotting...but not sure seems to work for me


Never tilt back cause it will go down your throat and could make you chuck...not sure about pulling the hair on your head i don't have enought to try.........

And if its only happened once sure see your doc but avoid getting it cauterised hurts like hell and often doesnt fix anything..... imho........opps four things....:Punk:

Ixion
1st May 2007, 21:13
Well it is OK so far, Though irritating. I am treating it like one of those bolts, where you have managed to get it just tight enough, but you know that the next time you touch it with a spanner, the thread will strip.

On reflection, I am inclined to suspect overheating as a primary cause.

I was very warm. And I remember that both the A10 and my 3TA used , when overheated, to leak from joints normally oiltight.

Humans work on much the same princilples as motorcycles. I think a great deal of trouble is due to overheating.

On the way home, I left off the uxorially mandated wooly pully, and rode with my jacket unfastened . A much cooler ride

I think I just need to harden up. I will try the neck chopping trick, it sounds promising.

Colapop
1st May 2007, 21:17
Get your blood pressure checked and stop being such a hardarse. I had a mate had to have a blood transfusion because "Aw it's just a bleeding nose" The clot moved or some shit while he was sleeping and it started bleeding again. He bled for sometime before his missus woke up covered in blood. The docs reckoned he could have bled to death... A ruptured blood vessel apparently... farkin' freaky!

Blondini
1st May 2007, 21:30
just dont get admitted to a hospital in NZ til they give you your brand new bar code:gob:

Disco Dan
2nd May 2007, 00:54
Who would I know?!!?

Vampires. Blood doners.

klingon
3rd May 2007, 20:51
Initially scrub it out with hot soapy water Ixion. See what's left.

Do not scrub your nose out with hot soapy water.
So tell us about the helmet - did you get it clean?

Ixion
3rd May 2007, 21:13
Yes, reasonably. after much scrubbing and some bleach. So now it sticks of chlorine.

The problem has not reoccured. So I will run with my theory of overheating. Leakage is an endemic problem with us older models.

It is all Mrs Ixion's fault. Ever since that pneumonia nonsense she has nagged me into wrapping up like a Michelin Man every time I go out. It's not healthy. I've put a stop to it and gone back to riding in shirt sleeves and open jacket. Better chilly than overheated.

I fear I have been getting old and soft. I need to harden up, that's the long and short of it. But I have a wee initiative afoot to facilitate that.

(I have checked into the blood pressure thing. Hawthorn is the stuff for that. I'll add it to my list. - Garlic too but I already use plenty of that)

Pixie
3rd May 2007, 22:57
Looks like my PM was too late:doh: