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ManDownUnder
2nd May 2007, 14:31
A wee bit of information you might want... Auckland City Council, in conjunction with Metro Water, have been conducting detailed flooding modelling in the Auckland Area between '03 and '06.

Those detailed updates now appear (unannounced) on LIM reports and put a surprising number of properties at risk of 100, 50 and yes - 10 year floods.

Ring them 379 2020, and have them confirm if your property is affected. Trust me - there will be more affected than you realise. They've taken into effect Global Warming for example. Sheet flows from "extreme weather events" that are going to become more common... etc

Let me know what you find!

charles23
2nd May 2007, 15:15
and they have spent millions of dollars of rate payers money on consultants to carry out this work, and they are very very conservative in their estimations of the predicted flood levels.

Winter
2nd May 2007, 22:57
I shall do this on wednesday when I get home.

MisterD
3rd May 2007, 08:40
I live on a hill, so unless the Manuaku rises by about 20m, I'm sweet.

Flatcap
3rd May 2007, 08:47
I live on a hill, so unless the Manuaku rises by about 20m, I'm sweet.

But this is the council we are talking about - they may put you as subject to flooding through incompetence or to cover their arse

ManDownUnder
3rd May 2007, 09:13
It is interesteing because speaking to the council, what they call flooding, we call surface water (no - literally.... ). Flooding to me implied a foot of water.

They call it any waer that doesn't drain away immediately, and the only effect they report it has is to require a Water Engineer to inpect the site prior to building consents being approved.

It's not actually a big deal in itself, but in terms of property values.... OH YES!

Down she goes!

Metrowater have a process you need to go through in order to change the flood hazard designation on a section - see attachment. Step 5 says (and I quote) "Advise customer, and start modelling work to correct error". Or in other words - they could/should have told us at the very least - and given ANYONE the chance to review and discuss this...

But no.

Anyway - good luck all

peasea
3rd May 2007, 09:52
I live on a hill, so unless the Manuaku rises by about 20m, I'm sweet.


Therefore your land value will skyrocket and so will your rates.

MisterD
3rd May 2007, 16:49
Therefore your land value will skyrocket and so will your rates.

I'll sell up and move to central otago when it becomes coastal property!

Grahameeboy
3rd May 2007, 16:55
I am surrounded by water..................it's a peninsular thing.....

mangell6
3rd May 2007, 18:12
Oops no longer insured for "flooding". Check your house insurance as this "little" thing could alter your coverage.

peasea
3rd May 2007, 19:48
I'll sell up and move to central otago when it becomes coastal property!


See you down there.
Seriously............

Colapop
3rd May 2007, 19:51
I'm poor... I'll just move into a housebus...

ManDownUnder
6th May 2007, 14:08
Talk about timing...!

Page A4 of the Sunday Star Times has a 1/2 page article on exactly this. Auckland City and North Shore councils have updated LIMS but (and here's a fun bit) other councils have refused to put comment on the LIMs.

"Other councils refuse to put the notice on land information memorandums (LIM), one - Christchurch - saying there was no scientific evidence to back the climate change."

...and later in the article, referring to the councils' obligation to include the flooding effects of anticipated changes due to global warming:
"The Environment Ministry's local government liaison manager, Brent Limmer, say it has no plans to enforce warnings, saying councils were best placed to make their own decisions"

In other words - the councils somehow know more about the effects of global warming than central goverment - and what's more they have conclusive evidence.

I wonder if they'd care to share?