total out rage!

[JohnBoy]

prob old news but i just found out that trucks can now do 90KmH (well lets face it 100KmH)!!!
what happened to "speed kills"?
seems like a call from left field from a govt who's starting to believe thier own propaganda!
so wheres the follow on?? why cant we ride at 110 or 120 (legally)

[James Deuce]

prob old news but i just found out that trucks can now do 90KmH (well lets face it 100KmH)!!!
what happened to "speed kills"?
seems like a call from left field from a govt who's starting to believe thier own propaganda!
so wheres the follow on?? why cant we ride at 110 or 120 (legally)Couple that with Alan Dick's claim that the new roadside brake test gear fails 80% of artics and B trains and you have a mammoth scandal.

The LTSA is replacing the testing station gear to meet the same standard as the roadside gear, so it will be interestign to see what kind of BS Tony Friedlander comes up with to excuse the trucking industry and the LTSA from being criminally incompetent.

[aff-man]

let see braking ability momentum .......... umm ummm........................... so bikes can legally do what 140 on the roads now. After that whole ad about 5km fater there and look you crsh into a truck. And now they are putting 10km/h on a very heavy vehicle. Hmmmmmm i think there are some smart cookies in the LTSA aye :buggerd: :buggerd:

[Hitcher]

I also like the LTSA's line that trucks are seldom caught speeding...

"Breaker 1 9, this here's The Duck. You got your ears on good buddy?"

[Deano]

I also like the LTSA's line that trucks are seldom caught speeding...

"Breaker 1 9, this here's The Duck. You got your ears on good buddy?"

You got it in one Hitcher - they don't get caught cos they all let each other know where the cops are at. I got this straight from the horses mouth when I was working in a gas station years ago. When I asked a local cop about speeding trucks, he said they were a myth.....bloody fool.

[Paul in NZ]

When a mate was running in his bike at 100kph we got passed by a truck and trailer unit....

I tell you! That was VERY scary!!

Trucks cruise at 100kph all the time. And try and pass one doing 90 when it's raining? Good luck!

Cheers

[scumdog]

prob old news but i just found out that trucks can now do 90KmH (well lets face it 100KmH)!!!
what happened to "speed kills"?
seems like a call from left field from a govt who's starting to believe thier own propaganda!
so wheres the follow on?? why cant we ride at 110 or 120 (legally)

Actually shag, they are meant to be pinged for 95, i.e. they only get 5km leeway as opposed to bikes/cars with 10 km leeway.

[merv]

Perhaps Spud can enlighten me otherwise but the last time I got pulled up I was driving with the bike on the trailer at 4.30am down Mana Esplanade (was when I was hauling the WR to Opoutama) and the three trucks that were ahead of me at Paremata roundabout disappeared into the distance heading North.

See this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=55943#post55943

The cop pulled me up about Shell Mana and says I was doing 70 in the 50. Well hell then the trucks would have been doing 80 - all big B Trains as I saw them side on as I approached the roundabout. He never touched the trucks. I asked him about the trucks but he said something like "big rigs don't go that fast here". I could see it was no point arguing, shut my mouth and got no ticket.

Seems to me though the trucks are invisible to the cops - follow them and you get pulled up.

[vifferman]

Seems to me though the trucks are invisible to the cops - follow them and you get pulled up.Maybe they're just going easy on them, being professional drivers and all that?
But yeah, it seems that they can speed with impunity, doesn't it?
Reminds me of the time I was driving between Waiotapu and Rotorua, and ahead of me I saw a Kenworth rig with a full load of logs, pull out and pass everything on 10-Mile Hill. Now that's grunt...

[spudchucka]

Perhaps Spud can enlighten me otherwise but the last time I got pulled up I was driving with the bike on the trailer at 4.30am down Mana Esplanade (was when I was hauling the WR to Opoutama) and the three trucks that were ahead of me at Paremata roundabout disappeared into the distance heading North.

See this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=55943#post55943

The cop pulled me up about Shell Mana and says I was doing 70 in the 50. Well hell then the trucks would have been doing 80 - all big B Trains as I saw them side on as I approached the roundabout. He never touched the trucks. I asked him about the trucks but he said something like "big rigs don't go that fast here". I could see it was no point arguing, shut my mouth and got no ticket.

Seems to me though the trucks are invisible to the cops - follow them and you get pulled up.
I don't work on the highway so can't comment on what happens out there but speeding truckies in my town get no sympathy from me any time of the day or night.

[spudchucka]

Maybe they're just going easy on them, being professional drivers and all that?
Heaps of the so called professional drivers are nothing more than outright road criminals (not all). Taxi drivers, courier drivers, truckies, security guards, they all seem to think at times that they own the road and are above the law. As far as I'm concerned they should receive the firmest enforcement of all because they are SUPPOSED to be professional drivers. Security guards are some of the worst, one was found recently doing 140 in a 50 because he was responding to an alarm activation that was 45 minutes old - f**ken halfwit!! :ar15: :ar15:

[Jackrat]

I also like the LTSA's line that trucks are seldom caught speeding...

"Breaker 1 9, this here's The Duck. You got your ears on good buddy?"

Ummm Errrrrr well,How much is a radar detector and how much is a uniden VHF??
My radio cost me $180.
The only speeding ticket I ever got (In OZ) the first thing the cop said was
"Got ya' radio turned off mate" :innocent: :doh:
Anyway my current wheels are Governed to 90km,My choise.

[Skyryder]

prob old news but i just found out that trucks can now do 90KmH (well lets face it 100KmH)!!!
what happened to "speed kills"?)

Now here is the second part to this equation or is it the answer.

The LTSA are considering reducing the five and half hour driving time before having to take a half hour break down to five hours. This is to reduce driver fatigue. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to figure why the speed limit for trucks has been upped 10k's. Maths are not my forte but if anyone wants to do some sums on this I'll wager a bottle of my favourite ale for myself that the 10k increase makes up for the half hour reduction in drive time.

Skyryder

[Yamahamaman]

Now here is the second part to this equation or is it the answer.

The LTSA are considering reducing the five and half hour driving time before having to take a half hour break down to five hours. This is to reduce driver fatigue. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to figure why the speed limit for trucks has been upped 10k's. Maths are not my forte but if anyone wants to do some sums on this I'll wager a bottle of my favourite ale for myself that the 10k increase makes up for the half hour reduction in drive time.

Skyryder
Probably more for the Truckies in Auckland who don't get to do 90Km per hour but can spend 5 hours just crossing town.

[mangell6]

Saw a HP ute stop an articulated unit between Chch and Kaikoura earlier this year. Trucks regularly do the 98-103 speed limit. I guess that they are professional drivers and can drive safely.

[Kickaha]

When a mate was running in his bike at 100kph we got passed by a truck and trailer unit....

I tell you! That was VERY scary!!

Trucks cruise at 100kph all the time. And try and pass one doing 90 when it's raining? Good luck!

Cheers

Pulled out to pass a truck in the rain near Rotorua and promptly got blinded by the spray,not much fun.

I've always found truck drivers to be the only other group of road users to show me a bit of courtesy on the road,waving me through or pulling over when they have room,don't get to many car drivers doing that.

[JohnBoy]

there maybe some nice ones out there but its the scary ones that you remember!
whats the guts with the guys flashing thier indicators at each other!!! i was between sanson & foxton on SH1 just after dusk and had been following a b-train for about 2k. he knew i was there and i saw him flash his right indicator and then pulled left, went to over take and nearly got taken out by on coming truck when looking to see if it was clear!! ever since then i dont trust them as far as i can push em!!

[dangerous]

whats the guts with the guys flashing thier indicators at each other!!!
During the day we :spudwave: during the night we :msn-wink: but I wouldent do that if I had someone behind me.
I used to have lighting on the fairing above the cab that had a switch by the center console that Id flick twice, only the truck oncomming would see that.

As for the speed limit being raised, the truckie cant win now can he. At 80 or 90kph you'd get shit throughen at ya for driving so slow by inpatiant drivers, now ya get shit cos you are aloud to drive faster :wacko:

[merv]

I'd prefer to see 100km/hr for all to keep the flow smooth. To supposedly still tow my trailer at 80km/hr is just ridiculous. I don't mind trucks doing 100, I was just amazed the plod would single me out in a 50 area and not the trucks doing 80 or so there.

[gav]

let see braking ability momentum .......... umm ummm........................... so bikes can legally do what 140 on the roads now. After that whole ad about 5km fater there and look you crsh into a truck. And now they are putting 10km/h on a very heavy vehicle. Hmmmmmm i think there are some smart cookies in the LTSA aye :buggerd: :buggerd:
Yeah, that ad with the two falcons and the guy crunchs the side of the truck, I just thought if he had been going 10km faster rather than 5 he would have been passed before the truck pulled out, answer speed up, sorted, :2thumbsup

[RT527]

Guys I travel myself at the 90-95 mark in a truck and constantly get passed by other trucks doing 110and as for the police not pulling up trucks is a load of codswallop how many car/mcycle riders have there own cops to deal with(not talking bout the bumble bees), we in the trucking fraternity have what we call mermaids(C***s With Scales)that pull us over anywhere anytime of the day/night.{really called C.V.I.U= Commercial vehicle investigation unit}
And if you break the law you bloody well deserve a ticket,
Been to 5 truck smashes this year 2 of them Hazardous substances,and every time i spoke to the driver it was the same thing..... geez bro i think i was going too fast(morons).
So if you see me on the road stay back look for me in my mirror then i can see you.But one thing! we can actually get into trouble for waving cars on, ask spud he`ll tell ya.
anyways it goes both ways i have seen some real dickhead m/cyclists out there, I just hope they aint KB`Rs.
Cheers everyone And i hope yous all travel safe this weekendand have a good ride.

[James Deuce]

Brian?????

[maybe]

I was told by one trucker that speed cameras were a joke to him as the position of his number plate (which was legal) could not be picked up by the camera. :argh:

[Blakamin]

Brian?????
????????????????????

[vifferman]

Heaps of the so called professional drivers are nothing more than outright road criminals (not all). Taxi drivers, courier drivers, truckies, security guards, they all seem to think at times that they own the road and are above the law. As far as I'm concerned they should receive the firmest enforcement of all because they are SUPPOSED to be professional drivers.So you've noticed that too? I dunno whether they drive like arrogant halfwits (sometimes one-eighthwits) because they've become blase about driving or because they're stupid, or both, but they need a good thumping (literally, or with a ticket book). I dunno that it's fair to say, "... they all seem to think at times that they own the road and are above the law.", as you do get some (particularly truckies, and especially those that own their own rigs) who are excellent and courteous drivers, but there are certainly WAY too many crap ones amongst them.

[Hitcher]

So you've noticed that too? I dunno whether they drive like arrogant halfwits (sometimes one-eighthwits) because they've become blase about driving or because they're stupid, or both, but they need a good thumping (literally, or with a ticket book). I dunno that it's fair to say, "... they all seem to think at times that they own the road and are above the law.", as you do get some (particularly truckies, and especially those that own their own rigs) who are excellent and courteous drivers, but there are certainly WAY too many crap ones amongst them.
Indeed. I am constantly amazed that taxi drivers are above the seatbelt law. How hard is it to put a seatbelt on and take it off?

[James Deuce]

????????????????????

None of your business :shutup:

:)

[Marmoot]

How about this one, guys.....according to that old git from Monash university (yea, the same person on that 2-fords braking advertisements/propaganda), the safe speed a vehicle should travel is marked by the halfway-point on the speedo .

Following that logic, my Supra should travel at 90kph, but my Blade can travel at 150kph no problemo eh?

A foot-in-mouth disease symptoms?

[vifferman]

How about this one, guys.....according to that old git from Monash university (yea, the same person on that 2-fords braking advertisements/propaganda), the safe speed a vehicle should travel is marked by the halfway-point on the speedo .

Following that logic, my Supra should travel at 90kph, but my Blade can travel at 150kph no problemo eh?

A foot-in-mouth disease symptoms?Don't be so disrespectful. He is, after all, an EXPERT.
X = the unknown factor
Spurt = a drip under pressure.

Oh - did I mention on here that I've got a new helmet? Or that I'm going to Melbourne today? No? Well I have, and I am!

[Blakamin]

How about this one, guys.....according to that old git from Monash university (yea, the same person on that 2-fords braking advertisements/propaganda), the safe speed a vehicle should travel is marked by the halfway-point on the speedo .

Following that logic, my Supra should travel at 90kph, but my Blade can travel at 150kph no problemo eh?

A foot-in-mouth disease symptoms?

Cool...will do the mph conversion on my speedo then :msn-wink:

[spudchucka]

Indeed. I am constantly amazed that taxi drivers are above the seatbelt law. How hard is it to put a seatbelt on and take it off?
However once they do more than 50 kph then the seat belt law applies. Guess how many speeding taxi drivers get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt too.

[spudchucka]

I dunno that it's fair to say, "... they all seem to think at times that they own the road and are above the law.", as you do get some (particularly truckies, and especially those that own their own rigs) who are excellent and courteous drivers, but there are certainly WAY too many crap ones amongst them.
No, its probably not fair to say "all", probably should have said "many" or perhaps "f**ken heaps", it amounts to a fair percentage of them anyway.

[Rascal]

They don't have to wear seatbelts coz someone could use it to restrain them from behind . . . that's there excuse anyway.

[Coldkiwi]

At low speed, around town, the professionalism of most truckies is quite obvious to me and is certainly appreciated.
I've had the same trouble getting past them on the open road (bloody rain makes it enarly impossible) but many times i realise that they're actually doing about the speed i want anyway and I don't need to pass!!

[scroter]

prob old news but i just found out that trucks can now do 90KmH (well lets face it 100KmH)!!!
what happened to "speed kills"?
seems like a call from left field from a govt who's starting to believe thier own propaganda!
so wheres the follow on?? why cant we ride at 110 or 120 (legally)

trucks have been able to do 90kph for ages all they have done is bring truck and trailers into line with trucks, semis, and B-trains. you wanna do this for a living and try sittin on 80kph it aint easy also the tolerance for all trucks went down to 5kph so now youll only get away with 95kph. also technollogy has come along way in the heavy transport arena since that 80kph limit was set.

however i will agree with you about bike speed limits. i find it difficult to sitt on 100-110 on my bike to do it i spend more time looking at the speedo than i care to. 130-140 would suit me fine

[NordieBoy]

How about this one, guys.....according to that old git from Monash university (yea, the same person on that 2-fords braking advertisements/propaganda), the safe speed a vehicle should travel is marked by the halfway-point on the speedo .

Following that logic, my Supra should travel at 90kph, but my Blade can travel at 150kph no problemo eh?

A foot-in-mouth disease symptoms?

Hmmm.
My digital speedo goes from 0-300kph or so.

So the Nordies safe speed just happens to be on the limiter in top gear :cool2:

[Marmoot]

[QUOTE=NordieBoy]Hmmm.
My digital speedo goes from 0-300kph or so.

QUOTE]

That's exactly my point :laugh:

[Lou Girardin]

I don't know if truckers have some sort of unofficial immunity, but I was following a truck and trailer rig on SH2 at 110 km/h when the detector went off. Eventually Pold came into view, we were still at 110, Mr trucker didn't even bother to slow. Plod ignored him. It's like the old days when we could do up to 20 over without worrying about tickets.

[scroter]

I don't know if truckers have some sort of unofficial immunity, but I was following a truck and trailer rig on SH2 at 110 km/h when the detector went off. Eventually Pold came into view, we were still at 110, Mr trucker didn't even bother to slow. Plod ignored him. It's like the old days when we could do up to 20 over without worrying about tickets.

that guy should buy a lotto ticket fast. when the limit was 80kph i got done twice once for 92kph and once for 93kph and both times i was in a passing lane. as a current linehauler in the twilight hours i dont push the limit by more than 2-3 kph its just too easy to get busted. and i need my licence

[NC]

Heaps of the so called professional drivers are nothing more than outright road criminals (not all). Taxi drivers, courier drivers, truckies, security guards, they all seem to think at times that they own the road and are above the law. As far as I'm concerned they should receive the firmest enforcement of all because they are SUPPOSED to be professional drivers. Security guards are some of the worst, one was found recently doing 140 in a 50 because he was responding to an alarm activation that was 45 minutes old - f**ken halfwit!! :ar15: :ar15:


I BLOODY HATE taxi drivers!

Fucken park all over the fucken road, U-Turns where ever the fuck they want! :mad: :mad: :mad:

And breatheeeeeeeeeeee :weep:

[rettun]

Driving from Wellsford to Kaiwaka with some mates we were pop passed by a concrete truck, then it pop passed 3 more cars before reaching the passing lanes goin into kaiwaka which he proceded to pass cars at well over 150km/h we followed him to see how fast he would end up goin

For some reason I always thought trucks didnt accelerate that quickly... :not:

[spudchucka]

I BLOODY HATE taxi drivers!

Fucken park all over the fucken road, U-Turns where ever the fuck they want! :mad: :mad: :mad:

And breatheeeeeeeeeeee :weep:
Not to mention heaps of them are dirty pervert sexos.

[NC]

Not to mention heaps of them are dirty pervert sexos.

Why does that not suprise me!

[scroter]

Driving from Wellsford to Kaiwaka with some mates we were pop passed by a concrete truck, then it pop passed 3 more cars before reaching the passing lanes goin into kaiwaka which he proceded to pass cars at well over 150km/h we followed him to see how fast he would end up goin

For some reason I always thought trucks didnt accelerate that quickly... :not:

check your speedo trucks cant go that fast.
a - the drag is too much
b - if it dosent have a rev limiter it will run out of revs at maybe tops 130.

[Kickaha]

check your speedo trucks cant go that fast.
a - the drag is too much
b - if it dosent have a rev limiter it will run out of revs at maybe tops 130.


I've been in a truck doing 160kmh,of course it had 1200hp and was modified for racing :msn-wink:

[Coyote]

You hate drivers getting in the way of bikes? Being a cyclist is the worst. Supposedly you have equal rights to everyone on the road. Bull. We constantly have to give way to every single car, truck, van, etc. Just the other day, I had to bike down a damned busy road, and cars were shoving me into the gutter, so I had to go onto the footpath for fears of being knocked over, then bam, I go straight into the back of a People mover backing out a driveway. It was backing out pretty fast, if it had been backing out casualy like most cars, I would've avoided it. In the end, I had to pay $500 cause of a dent I put in the car with my head, and I was unable to go on my motorbike cause I had a buggered up knee.

I got a Day off school the day after though.

[Al]

Well, seeing as drivers have passed their driving test, contribute for road upkeep through petrol taxes, etc, what do cyclists do - ride 2 abreast, ignore most road rules, etc.
I am not anti-cyclists, ride a few times a week too to keep up fitness, but some of these lycra clad cyclists seem to think that other road users are always in the wrong...! :angry2:

(Al gets down from soapbox)
Al

[Blakamin]

Well, seeing as drivers have passed their driving test, contribute for road upkeep through petrol taxes, etc, what do cyclists do - ride 2 abreast, ignore most road rules, etc.
I am not anti-cyclists, ride a few times a week too to keep up fitness, but some of these lycra clad cyclists seem to think that other road users are always in the wrong...! :angry2:

(Al gets down from soapbox)
Al

Specially when they're riding on the twisties...you'd think they'd stop riding 3 abreast when they hear a loud pipe, but no... lucky i dont drive a truck!
and if cars force you on the footpath, stop and wait 2 minutes!

[dangerous]

Well, seeing as drivers have passed their driving test, contribute for road upkeep through petrol taxes, etc, what do cyclists do

well I dont no what its like up your way but in Chch at what was a normal intersection ie: one lane for turning right and for going straight and another for turning left and going straight........ the idiot roading engineeres have deleted one of the lanes and made it 1/2 as wide (all cars use this lane) and added a pushbike lane which is 1.5m wide.
This means if a car wants to turn and has to wait to give way then all other traffic is held up to the point were only one car gets through the intersection.
This is all over the city now and the roads have been painted red for the silly bikes not good on the motorbike in the wet.
And who pays for all this????

[Kickaha]

Well, seeing as drivers have passed their driving test, contribute for road upkeep through petrol taxes, etc, what do cyclists do - ride 2 abreast, ignore most road rules, etc.
I am not anti-cyclists, ride a few times a week too to keep up fitness, but some of these lycra clad cyclists seem to think that other road users are always in the wrong...! :angry2:

(Al gets down from soapbox)
Al

I would imagine a lot of cyclists are ratepayers and own other vehicles and so contribute to road upkeep but aren't lazy fucks like most car drivers and prefer not to add to even more traffic congestion.

As a law abiding cyclist when I used to ride around town I was continually put in serious danger because of the ignorance of the car driving public.

The group of road users I see doing the stupidest things and always thinking the other road users are in the wrong would be motorcyclists

[JohnBoy]

good on the people getting out into the open a having a push bike ride. but for goodness sake the rules clearly state not to ride two abreast!!! this applys to state h'ways as well as back roads. i live in an area with a very strong push bike club and see them regularly out and about, but just because they wear bright clothing dosent mean your going to be seen!!
i have seen people riding (wearing full gears) push bikes on SH3 between Hams and te awamutu (which is a very busy road and has a high percentage of heavy traffic) two abreast! you would think that these peiople would have a lot more common sense than others!! people who get run over in this manner do not have my sympothy!

[Motu]

Well, seeing as drivers have passed their driving test, contribute for road upkeep through petrol taxes, etc, what do cyclists do - ride 2 abreast, ignore most road rules, etc.
I am not anti-cyclists, ride a few times a week too to keep up fitness, but some of these lycra clad cyclists seem to think that other road users are always in the wrong...! :angry2:

(Al gets down from soapbox)
Al

Yeah,what's happened here? go out on a weekend,particualy north in Auckland and you see expensive SUVs parked up and bunches of expensive bikes in colourful lycra all over the place - seems like they have taken their SUV arrogance and applied it to push bikes.You see cars crawling along the Scenic Drive stuck behind these arrogant sods who seem to think they can ride 2 or 3 abreast,yabbering away about the share market and property values while riding - they better watch out...there's a Pajero with a broken crank and pedal still stuck in it's grill that cruises those roads.

[Paul in NZ]

Actually...

One point that has slipped by most bikers is that if you tow a trailer (god forbid) like a unigo or summat bigger behind your goldwhinge or whatever...

You are supposed to limit yourself to 80kph....

Nasty....

[Mongoose]

Actually...

One point that has slipped by most bikers is that if you tow a trailer (god forbid) like a unigo or summat bigger behind your goldwhinge or whatever...

You are supposed to limit yourself to 80kph....

Nasty....

Yep, some of the HP dudes(esses) down this way are onto that one, most frustrating for those involved. Phark, 80k is gonna take like forever to get anywhere.

[scroter]

my mistake although those ones are limited to 160 kph and are track only. i wouldnt mind trying one to find out how well itd pull 40 odd tonne up the mamakus. my pussy 420 horse gets down to between 30-40kph at the steepest bit. imagine bein able to do burnouts in it as well.