Stupid prick, I hope he gets his due

[Sniper]

From the Stuff website

This is the street behind mine. The house involved is separated from mine by a fence and I was none too pleased at the shenanigans going on including 2 youngsters climbing over my fence (They made it back over the fence faster than when they came over,funny what a half naked man and a large steel pipe can do). What went on throught the drivers mind when he did this? God help him though, some of those people at the party would make me think twice about callling them names, let alone injuring them or their friends.

Hopefully someone drops a name.



Dozens injured as motorist deliberatly drives into people

Screams filled the air when a car swerved into dozens of people, sending bodies flying, at an out-of-control party in suburban Christchurch last night.


Ten people were taken to Christchurch Hospital, three suffering critical injuries, after the incident about 10.30pm on Edgeware Road.

Hundred of teenagers - some just 13 - and young adults descended on the party thanks to text messages encouraging people to attend.

Police, some wearing riot gear, were preparing to close the party down when the incident happened.

Bystanders say hundreds of partygoers had swelled out onto the road.

Witnesses said a fight started on the street just before one of those involved allegedly jumped into a red three-door Honda Integra and drove it into a large group at speeds of up to 80kmh.

One partygoer, John, said he narrowly missed being hit by the car.

"I saw one of the people hit. They had blood coming out everywhere. They were just on the road moaning. I can't believe it. It was absolutely dreadful. It was like they were split open

"People were running and screaming all over the place. There was a girl on the road who looked terrible," he said.

Amos Meates, 18, said he saw the car speed through partygoers.

He knew the party was going to get out of control because he had received "15 or 20" text messages about it during the week.

"It was chocker. I reckon there were 300 to 500 people there.

He said there were a couple of hundred people on the road when a fight broke out. "A guy jumped back into his car - a red Honda Integra - really angry, revved the engine and took off, and ploughed through the people," Meates said.

"He came straight at me - he just floored it - swerved up on the other side of the road. I was just like, `oh no, no way'.

"I saw six people flying through the air, people calling out. I saw a chick going bouncing from one side to the other, stretched out on the street. I was yelling, `we need help'," Meates said.

Motorist Clayton Jamison had pulled over to the side of the road when he saw the large group pf partygoers in front of him.

He said the Honda driver purposely swerved onto the wrong side of the road to hit the group.

"I saw four people go over the roof of the car. He was probably doing about 70kmh.

"People just started running this way (toward Jamison)."

The Honda driver sped away without stopping.

Partygoer Jess said she could not believe what was happening.

"It sounded like a gun (the car hitting people). It sounds like someone getting shot. It is the kind of thing that screws young people up for life."

Another eyewitness said:

"It was like something was thrown in the air, but it was a person. There was blood running in the gutters," he said.

Early this morning stunned, weeping and angry teenagers, and shocked parents, filled Christchurch Hospital's emergency department to await news of the injured.

One person, waiting at the hospital, who dove out of the car's path, said she felt lucky to be alive.

"I only just saw him coming. There was nothing those people could do. They were sent flying by the car," she said.

A police cordon was in place at the scene overnight. Police told The Press they were pelted with stones and other debris as the tried to get to the injured.

Inspector Derek Erasmus, of the Christchurch police, declined to say if officers had identified the driver of the car.

Officers had a lot of witnesses to speak to and he encouraged anyone with information to come forward

[Mom]

Scarey times we live in my friend. Someone will spill the beans surely.

[JimO]

From the Stuff website

This is the street behind mine. The house involved is separated from mine by a fence and I was none too pleased at the shenanigans going on including 2 youngsters climbing over my fence (They made it back over the fence faster than when they came over,funny what a half naked man and a large steel pipe can do). What went on throught the drivers mind when he did this? God help him though, some of those people at the party would make me think twice about callling them names, let alone injuring them or their friends.

Hopefully someone drops a name.

top half or bottom half:shutup: large STEEL pipe

[Sniper]

top half or bottom half:shutup: large STEEL pipe

Well, in all honesty, Im not 100% sure if its steel or lead. I should have said lead as it seems too heavy to be steel. I keep it under my bed.

[Black Bandit]

Unbelievable. And this is not the first time this has happened either.:(

[Smokin]

Well, in all honesty, Im not 100% sure if its steel or lead. I should have said lead as it seems too heavy to be steel. I keep it under my bed.

Your a kinky man Stu.

[pritch]

funny what a half naked man and a large steel pipe can do

I can't help wondering if it would have been even funnier if you were naked... :whistle:

I have always thought that steel pipes work best when stainless or blue with a piece of walnut or even plastic on one end.:ar15:

[onearmedbandit]

I was coming home from a ride when I saw all this going on (I live just 100m away from the corner as well), police units everywhere, riot police, ambulances galore. Man it was not a nice scene, lots of people crying, standing around in shock.

[far queue]

I find this bit to be amazing ...
Police told The Press they were pelted with stones and other debris as the tried to get to the injured. ... what a bunch of tossers. Those doing the chucking that is.

[Shadows]

With that many people around, somebody will know who it was and spill the beans. They'll have him by the end of today I reckon.

[onearmedbandit]

I went for a nosey after I got home, dude it wasn't a good place to be, shit loads of amped up drunk teens everywhere.

Have you moved Sniper? I remember your place being a couple streets north of Edgeware, mind you it is a while since your 21st.

[Mr. Peanut]

But Marijuana is bad mmkay?

[merv]

The prick has a real problem now if the law takes its course properly because two are now confirmed dead.

[candor]

With this and 2 year olds getting shot by gangs I can only think of one word.

Hangings.

They worked in my nanas day. She saw one as a child, and that was a lynching in Dunedin because a shopkeeper would not feed the starving in the depression. Standards of decency sure have dropped off.

[nigelp]

I was coming home from a ride when I saw all this going on (I live just 100m away from the corner as well), police units everywhere, riot police, ambulances galore. Man it was not a nice scene, lots of people crying, standing around in shock.

Strange, I heard nothing last night and I live on 500m from where it all took place!

[Sniper]

Strange, I heard nothing last night and I live on 500m from where it all took place!

It was pretty big man. And noisy. From what I understand, it wasn't confined to that house either.

[Hitcher]

Where are the parents of all these kids? I hope that the cops don't become the focus of the finger-wagging blame artistes.

[Paul in NZ]

Stupid drunk teenagers and cellphones and cars... baaad mix...

[Nasty]

Stupid drunk teenagers and cellphones and cars... baaad mix...

Who watch programmes like Shortland Street and follow the plotlines in real life .. in other words few braincells.

[onearmedbandit]

Strange, I heard nothing last night and I live on 500m from where it all took place!

Double glazing?!? Was pretty quiet (noise, still hundreds of people there) when I went and a look, but earlier when I rode past the sirens were deafening.

[Deviant Esq]

We heard sirens and car alarms going off all bleedin' night. I heard about it but couldn't be arsed walking down to see what'd happened. Sounds like it wasn't pretty though.

[Sniper]

We heard sirens and car alarms going off all bleedin' night. I heard about it but couldn't be arsed walking down to see what'd happened. Sounds like it wasn't pretty though.

You back up the road? Ive lost your cell number

[Deviant Esq]

You back up the road? Ive lost your cell number
Yep, back into our old flat now. PMed you my number :)

[Winter]

I was staying in a motel a couple streets away on Bealey Ave,and could hear boyricers and sirens all blardy night. We walked to find a pub (the bicycle theif) and there was a hooker standing on every street corner we passed.

the beer was good, but apart from that I wasn't impressed with my stay in Christchurch this time!

[orange dog]

You ignore NZ'rs call for stiffer sentencing, you lower the drinking age, you ban corpral punishment in schools and then... you remove the right of the parent to discipline within reasonable grounds :nono:

And then they point the finger at the police ! frikin h christ

[R6_kid]

i dont think the Police are equiped to deal with this sort of shit, that includes the gang shit going down in Wanganui and the rest of the country... Ron Marks for PM.

Send in the Army, proper tactical squad styles... if they (the criminals) don't co-operate they get shot. The people of NZ do not need to feel terrorized or bantered by those who chose to live outside of the law... if my ancestors knew what was good for them they would have cleaned these types out when they arrived. (not Maori in general, just the shit head ones who don't know what is good for them)

Whats worse is that these people live off the benefit which our taxes are paying for, and then add to it with money earned by dealing in hard drugs and other illegal practices.

This country needs cleaning up, not legislating.

[candor]

... if my ancestors knew what was good for them they would have cleaned these types out when they arrived. (not Maori in general, just the shit head ones who don't know what is good for them)

Whats worse is that these people live off the benefit which our taxes are paying for, and then add to it with money earned by dealing in hard drugs and other illegal practices.

This country needs cleaning up, not legislating.

The offender who killed the girls was not Maori by his name. I don't think your ancestors should have seen it as their job to genocide those not "approved" either. Agreed there is no need for benefits if you have illicit income - but the guy who nutted out here was a factory worker not on a benefit.

I wonder about P, or straight out loopy (maybe head injury with anger problem) or narcissism ("I feel bad now so someone, anyone is gonna pay")

Don't know if the baby killers who likely were Maori had jobs or not. If they did not that is partly because of history and the society we live in. Full employment is not enabled by the Reserve Bank Act I think it is. Because that ups inflation too much. The law therefore makes full employment impossible.

I do agree the Police are faced with too much BS as we have now officially been outed on the International stage as a ghetto country by recent events.

[What?]

Ron Marks for PM.

After seeing his powers of reason at work on Close Up last night, I think we are better off keeping Helen. Ron couldn't argue his way out of a wet paper bag.

[Sniper]

I was staying in a motel a couple streets away on Bealey Ave,and could hear boyricers and sirens all blardy night. We walked to find a pub (the bicycle theif) and there was a hooker standing on every street corner we passed.

the beer was good, but apart from that I wasn't impressed with my stay in Christchurch this time!

You just went down the wrong street :p

Yea, try avoid staying on Bealy Ave, or any of the Avs if you can help it.

[Joni]

Yeah Sniper been thinking of this a lot... my route to work takes me past the part of the road that is still closed off... bloody hell! Such a tradegy...

I know it sounds sick, but I look forward to hearing what this young mans excuse it, where was his mind when he mowed through those kids...

Young kids have so much to deal with... this is just another burden for the people who witnessed this horrible action.

:mellow:

[terbang]

We will have to wait for another report by the sandal wearers titled, 'uniqueness of gang and teenage violence and the impact it has on the New Zealand landscape' (or similar) before we can tackle any of these issues.

[ManDownUnder]

I have a couple of thoughts on this... and the first is the obvious - what a hell of a waste of life, and terrible thing to happen to the victims families.

The other thoughts I have are these...

There are always two sides to a story. I'm convinced we only know one, and I'd be very surprised if the other side of the story mitigated what happened... but in the absence of that other side it's impossible to fully draw any conclusions about the rights and wrongs of everyone involved.

The other things is my incessat suggestion to put the little buggers through boot camp. Army style, no mercy... boot camp. Those that have been there swear it's a good thing (I haven't personally - but I've seen some pretty impressive results, and I've seen no "failures" per se!)

Boot camp.

Anyway - that is all...

[terbang]

Boot camp is a yank term, we call it "Basic" training here. Having been through it, I have to agree with you MDU, it certainly makes responsible young men out of slack arse teens.

[Dave Lobster]

Boot camp is a yank term, we call it "Basic" training here. Having been through it, I have to agree with you MDU, it certainly makes responsible young men out of slack arse teens.

Only if you're allowed to beat the shit out of the weak links.

[terbang]

Only if you're allowed to beat the shit out of the weak links.
Yeah well, things may have changed since the 70's but it certainly worked then.

[Dave Lobster]

Yeah well, things may have changed since the 70's but it certainly worked then.

I agree. When the army stamped on bullying, it went soft..

When I left, there were little wankers coming out of training that couldn't even pass a BASIC fitness test. Girls that hadn't passed a single fitness test in their life.. fucking madness.

[imdying]

Apparently they've switched off life support for one of the other victims, due to too much brain damage, so it'll be three dead soon.

I have a hard time conjuring up sympathy for teens that travel around parties that they weren't invited to, simply because someone texted them the address. If that is not the case, wtf were the people doing trying to run a party for 300 people in suburbia? They are just as guilty as the driver... how could they not see a riot coming?

[Swoop]

The interview with one of the girls mother and brother, on tv3 last night, was very good. They were coping but ovbiously shocked beyond belief.

Why is is becoming more common for some tosser with an attitude and a small dick, to go and get a weapon (cage) and run down partygoers?

+1 vote for Boot Camp.

[Pixie]

Why is is becoming more common for some tosser with an attitude and a small dick, to go and get a weapon (cage) and run down partygoers?



Isn't that the point of some of the moron video games?

[terbang]

I agree. When the army stamped on bullying, it went soft..

When I left, there were little wankers coming out of training that couldn't even pass a BASIC fitness test. Girls that hadn't passed a single fitness test in their life.. fucking madness.

Interesting comment. When I was there I never really saw what I would call bullying but I did see a few people that were letting the 'team' down, get rapidly straightened out. That's life..! I in no way support bullying though I agree there may be a fine line between it and asserting change upon a weak link in a group or team situation. I certainly believe that there is an element in our society today that doesn't have a real grasp on reality, therefore the consequences of their actions. This could possibly stem from a combination of a society that cannot, when required, raise its voice anymore when saying "NO" (lack of recognisable boundaries) and the ever present glorification of reckless and violent behaviour that we get dished up to our living rooms, via the TV medium, on a daily basis.
Or is it because we have just been through a full moon period.

[Swoop]

Isn't that the point of some of the moron video games?
Wouldn't know, since I don't play them or have a "games" console.

If the driver was trying to score points by having multiple attempts at running people down.... :bash:

[Lias]

Anyone have a link to the girls bebo profiles?

[Delerium]

i dont think the Police are equiped to deal with this sort of shit, that includes the gang shit going down in Wanganui and the rest of the country... Ron Marks for PM.

Send in the Army, proper tactical squad styles... if they (the criminals) don't co-operate they get shot. The people of NZ do not need to feel terrorized or bantered by those who chose to live outside of the law... if my ancestors knew what was good for them they would have cleaned these types out when they arrived. (not Maori in general, just the shit head ones who don't know what is good for them)

Whats worse is that these people live off the benefit which our taxes are paying for, and then add to it with money earned by dealing in hard drugs and other illegal practices.

This country needs cleaning up, not legislating.

thats what hitler did.

Giving the army the pfoblem is NOT the answer. It ties up their resources that could better be used for people that want to be there. Read a book called phantom over vietnam. it has a chapter dedicated to this sort of problem and the effects of the draft, which is exactly what you are proposing.

However I do agree that the PC BS needs to disappear somewhat.

[Ocean1]

What causes that type of behaviour?
Has it increased over the years or did we just forget our history?

Guess there's always been nutters, maybe society makes more of them now though. Either way the only "cure" I've ever seen work is the teaching of self discipline. Imposed from without as required, to start with, until the habit forms within. Maybe there's a place for compulsary team training, military or otherwise, perhaps even for everyone.

That's the opposite direction to how we teach kids nowadays, we're told to treat kids in ways that protect them from consequences. I can't blame parents, I know too many good people who have nightmare kids. The schools seem breeding grounds for poor behaviour and mediocrity. Where's the middle ground between free expression and social responsibility?

[candor]

Why the hell did three news have a woman on who was blaming the crowd for being on the street just as she had trouble driving thru earlier, others implying the victims were maybe being racist toward offender (victim blaming to reduce his responsibility) based on txts which told Asians and gangsters to stay away. Followed by the murderers brother saying what a nice guy he is just a few days after he goes on a BAD rampage?

No other media in the world would give one minute to killers / rapists brothers cheerleading. Its indecent.

Why is it suddenly kosha for murderers and police rapists brothers to go on National news (or Campbell live) just to say how nice their relly is?

Why are they trying to soften the public (and maybe victims) up for reduced charges or a light penalty or something...

I am seriously disturbed by the medias ethics. They also reported that one of the killed girls parents feels sorry for the killer. This is a usual stage for victims (called "trauma bonding") that is in the later stages replaced with other emotions.

Ethical journos should know this and not be reporting it. They seriously serve up some irrelevant and sometimes extra irresponsible mush these days.