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Big Dan
11th May 2007, 18:47
Just saw on three news that in 2-3 years this team may not exsist due a staduim not been up to standard

Do you guys care about this

i for one hope they can stay in the Super 14

Jantar
11th May 2007, 18:53
To true rugby lovers, Carrisbrooke is up to standard for what it was designed for. ie Saturday afternoon rugby. The advent of professional rugby is killing te sport in Otago. Watching a live game on a sunny afternoon is great, watching the same game after dark in a -2 fog is not.

I would rather keep the Brook and go back to amatuer rugby than have a new stadium just so we can stay in the super 14.

Deviant Esq
11th May 2007, 18:59
It'd be a shame to lose the Otago team - and this is coming from a Cantabrian. Otago's always been a team of fighters, a team that will always give a tough game and never lie down. They've been one of the best teams in NZ rugby for many more years than we've had super rugby. The house of pain has a long history, and it's really not surprising to find that it's not up to international standards. Still, Otago / Dunedin deserves a flash new stadium to keep a team from the deep south in professional / Super rugby. Southern pride needs a team to support.

Big Dan
11th May 2007, 19:01
To true rugby lovers, Carrisbrooke is up to standard for what it was designed for. ie Saturday afternoon rugby. The advent of professional rugby is killing te sport in Otago. Watching a live game on a sunny afternoon is great, watching the same game after dark in a -2 fog is not.

I would rather keep the Brook and go back to amatuer rugby than have a new stadium just so we can stay in the super 14.

yeah and the brook has so many manys

the gold ol House of pain "house of taine"

Athletic park was a great park i watched the last IRB test there it was great bitter southerly pour with rain and great cheerleaders

Jantar
11th May 2007, 19:15
It'd be a shame to lose the Otago team - and this is coming from a Cantabrian. .
I don't think its the Otago team that they are talking about, its just the Highlanders. We would still have the Otago.

Deviant Esq
11th May 2007, 19:25
I don't think its the Otago team that they are talking about, its just the Highlanders. We would still have the Otago.
Yeah, I meant the Highlanders. They're still the Otago Highlanders, aren't they? It'd be a shame for southern rugby fans to lose them. Apologies for the miscommunication.

JimO
11th May 2007, 19:32
It'd be a shame to lose the Otago team - and this is coming from a Cantabrian. Otago's always been a team of fighters, a team that will always give a tough game and never lie down. They've been one of the best teams in NZ rugby for many more years than we've had super rugby. The house of pain has a long history, and it's really not surprising to find that it's not up to international standards. Still, Otago / Dunedin deserves a flash new stadium to keep a team from the deep south in professional / Super rugby. Southern pride needs a team to support.

as a ratepayer i dont see why the ratepayers have to stump up the major portion of the $$$ when the rugby union wont pay any, there is still no guarantee that the new stadium would get any of the world cup games, and its bound to cost double what they say its going to. Keep the origional brook i say

Colapop
11th May 2007, 19:44
I can't see it happening.That would leave one Super14 team for the whole of the South Island. It's bad enough the prospect of portions of the Super 14 teams being partially sold off...

BuFfY
11th May 2007, 19:54
Otago Highlanders, Oh thats our name
Otago Highlanders, Rugby is our game,
Otago Highlanders, Winning is our aim
Welcome to the house of pain!

How on earth could they think of getting rid of the best team in the world?!?!

alexthekidd
11th May 2007, 20:10
Geez but could you imagine if the top players flock to the Crusaders, more and more years of dominance on the horizon if that happened.

Can't see it happening anytime soon though

MisterD
12th May 2007, 12:18
Probably stirring by someone in favour of the idea of a North Harbour S14 franchise....the idea of not having a team based in Dunedin is just stupid.

Colapop
12th May 2007, 12:25
Geez but could you imagine if the top players flock to the Crusaders, more and more years of dominance on the horizon if that happened.
The top players have left. The last ones finished up this year...

Carl Hymen
Anton Olivier
Clarke Dermody...

Virago
12th May 2007, 15:30
The whole thing is just more stategically timed sabre-shaking, to scare the Dunedin ratepayers into building a new stadium, that the rugby corporates can then charge them to use. Beautifully timed, while a poll (of sorts) is being conducted by the Dunedin City Council.........

A $100 million plus stadium, for a town of 100,000 people - you do the maths. That's $4,000 for my family, added to my rates bill over the next 10 or 15 years. And the way the cost over-runs go, you can probably double that before the stadium is finished.

User pays - yeah right - it appears that those who can't afford to go to games, are now expected to subsidise those who can.......

xwhatsit
12th May 2007, 16:11
It's funny, how councils and political organisations often work (but especially councils). What they do, is they have in mind a scheme that won't go down well with voters. So instead of announcing that, they concoct another, fake scheme, that costs twice as much and is four times as inconvenient. Big outcry; all the talkback tards ring up, petitions get written, letters to the editor. So then, they say `oh ok, we listen to the public, how about this then?' and introduce the original scheme that they had planned, and everybody sighs with relief because that's not as bad as what they first said, is it?

Prime example being that fuel tax they talked about recently.

Sounds like somebody wants some funding, and they're scaring people with massive rates bills.

No way would the Highlanders be lost, for the precise reason Pepsipop mentioned, then there would be only one team for the whole mainland and that is just silly. Somebody would bail them out, the competition as a whole would suffer.

Big Dan
12th May 2007, 16:16
Its like the whole eden park thing was settle and now they have nothing to talk about so they think "hey lets get rid of the highlanders if ratepayers don't want to pay" what a crock of shit when the govt has all this surplus with no tax breaks insight with the cost of buying a house get worse and cost of living gets higher and now they wants you Dunedin folk to fork out close to 10 grand over 15 years i sympathize with you Virago

NighthawkNZ
12th May 2007, 16:58
Dunedin does not have the population to support the stadium and or we can't afford it...

100 million dollars thats today... when the come to build it the final figure will be closer to 300 million (when have you ever seen anything be on budget)

the fact is we simply can't afford it. The price of living is high enough as it... itf this goes ahead... rates will go up... and then rent goes up... which will effect those on the lower income... I know im not that good at math but I am not that bad.

Big Dan
12th May 2007, 17:07
Dunedin does not have the population to support the stadium and or we can't afford it...

100 million dollars thats today... when the come to build it the final figure will be closer to 300 million (when have you ever seen anything be on budget)

the fact is we simply can't afford it. The price of living is high enough as it... itf this goes ahead... rates will go up... and then rent goes up... which will effect those on the lower income... I know im not that good at math but I am not that bad.

you dont need math to work this out its more common sense

JimO
12th May 2007, 17:48
it wouldnt be so bad if it was a true multipurpose stadium but it will get rugby only stamped on it and thats that, my boys play soccor and hockey at rep level , dunedin needs another water turf not another rugby ground

Virago
12th May 2007, 17:59
Dunedin does not have the population to support the stadium and or we can't afford it...

100 million dollars thats today... when the come to build it the final figure will be closer to 300 million (when have you ever seen anything be on budget)

the fact is we simply can't afford it. The price of living is high enough as it... itf this goes ahead... rates will go up... and then rent goes up... which will effect those on the lower income... I know im not that good at math but I am not that bad.

And if you're a renter, you don't even get to vote in the DCC "poll". It goes to "ratepayers" only, and only one per household (addressed to the person whose name appears first on the rates bill). On that basis, your landlord probably gets several votes......

The DCC have had a barrage of outraged citizens phoning them, asking for their poll paper, but the DCC said they won't issue more as "it might skew the results". :weird:

Colapop
12th May 2007, 18:02
Got heaps of labour in the prisons...