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dasser
14th May 2007, 08:58
The U.S. standard railroad gauge (distance between rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. :yes:

Why was that gauge used?
Because that's the way they built them in England, and English expatriates built the US Railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?
Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did "they" use that gauge then?
Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

:zzzz:

Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some of the old, long distance roads in England , because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So, who built those old rutted roads?
Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (and England) for their legions. The roads have been used ever since.

What about the ruts in the roads?
Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, :gob: which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.


The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. And bureaucracies live forever.

So the next time you are handed a specification and told we have always done it that way and wonder what horse's ass came up with that, you may be exactly right. The Imperial Roman war chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war horses. :gob:

Now the twist to the story... When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. Thiokol makes the SRBs at their factory in Utah .

The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel.

The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds.

So, a major Space Shuttle design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass.

And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important? :yes:

Beemer
14th May 2007, 09:43
You have way too much spare time! But I like it!

Pwalo
14th May 2007, 10:27
I've seen that suggested a few times. Apparently it's another urban myth. A good one though.

The Pastor
14th May 2007, 11:45
Smells like bullshit!

scracha
14th May 2007, 11:59
It's funny how the Romans managed to build roads that lasted 2000 years but Fulton Hogan can't manage to build a road that doesnt' start cracking up within 2 months.

Beemer
14th May 2007, 12:08
It's funny how the Romans managed to build roads that lasted 2000 years but Fulton Hogan can't manage to build a road that doesnt' start cracking up within 2 months.

That's because they get paid by the HOUR...

Sniper
14th May 2007, 14:14
Smells like bullshit!

And it is my dear man

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.htm

oldrider
14th May 2007, 15:10
Another factor is the human "Personality Profile" or the way that humans generally behave.

Ask any psychology student, Myers Briggs as just one profiling methodology will find that the majority of humans fit into "ISTJ" profiles and as such are creatures of habit focussed on established detail.

The world depends on "ISTJ's" to maintain order and not stray away from established norms, they will fight tooth and nail to keep everything "the same".

It often crosses my mind what the majority "profile" exsists among motorcyclists, could be an interesting poll for KB. :dodge: Any students interested? John.

Toaster
15th May 2007, 13:08
And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important? :yes:

Mate that would have to be one of the funniest things I have read yet. Very good!

Toaster
15th May 2007, 13:09
Yeah but its funny bullshit Sniper.

WRT
15th May 2007, 13:14
Well, it's not completely bullshit. A lot of it is based on truth, except the bits about the Romans and the SRB's. However, without those two portions, the story is rather dull.

cowpoos
15th May 2007, 14:26
The U.S. standard railroad gauge (distance between rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. :yes:

Why was that gauge used?
Because that's the way they built them in England, and English expatriates built the US Railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?
Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did "they" use that gauge then?
Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

:zzzz:

Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some of the old, long distance roads in England , because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So, who built those old rutted roads?
Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (and England) for their legions. The roads have been used ever since.

What about the ruts in the roads?
Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, :gob: which everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.


The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. And bureaucracies live forever.

So the next time you are handed a specification and told we have always done it that way and wonder what horse's ass came up with that, you may be exactly right. The Imperial Roman war chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war horses. :gob:

Now the twist to the story... When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. Thiokol makes the SRBs at their factory in Utah .

The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel.

The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds.

So, a major Space Shuttle design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass.

And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important? :yes:

Piffft!! everyone knows that!!!