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Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 09:27

emaN

15th May 2007, 09:31

Use the "search" function bro...I'm sure there's a few threads about 'filtering'.
You're mostly right about 2-5 tho'...shocking, innit?!

Was 'interesting' riding in NZ again, after having spent 4 1/2 yrs riding around London, UK, Europe!

James Deuce

15th May 2007, 09:35

Injury and death resulting from MVAs are regarded as non-violent crime in NZ too. Don't go trying to sue as ACC covers your physical repair, recovery and rehabilitation.

Do a search on Lane splitting and filtering.

Swoop

15th May 2007, 09:47

#3,#4,#5 = Yes.
#2 = a possible charge of careless use???

Filtering = SEARCH BUTTON.

crashe

15th May 2007, 09:49

Hi everyone! I'm fairly new to NZ - I arrived in Auckland from London in November - and need some clarification on the road laws here as I recently got a ticking off from a Cop for filtering (lane splitting) on by bike.

1. Is filtering illigal? Every other country I've ridden in (Europe and US) it's expected where possible. In fact in the UK you will fail your bike test if you don't filter when there is an oppertunity.
Do a search on this, as there is lots of threads on this topic.
I lane split, but as soon as I spot a cop ahead, I swing in behind a car and merge with the traffic until I have past the cop sitting there and then back to lane splitting again.

2. Can you legally drive a car whilst talking/texting on a mobile phone?
Yes you are allowed to but there are some who are trying to ban this practise. It is seen as being a dangerous thing to do. They want to bring in the 'handset' thingee where you dont hold the actual ph. It is distracting for some drivers using them.

3. Can you legally undertake (overtake on the inside/slow lane on motorway)?
I know in the UK the cops give you a fine for passing others in the slow lane. Here in NZ the people sit in the middle lane or the fast lanes on the motorways and dont use the blardy slow lane and hold up traffic in the faster lanes. So the only way past is going into the slow lane and passing them. The cops should ticket the people who slow the faster lanes down as they should be over in the slow lanes.

4. Can you legally drive without insurance? Even 3rd party?
Yes - but I personally reckon that everyone should have at least 3rd party insurance

5. Can you legally drive under the influence of party pills?
Ummmm dunno - ask a cop

2 - 5 would all be illegal in other countries (except the US) I've driven/ridden.

Any help would be appreciated - may save me a ticket in the future....

Cheers,

Dean

answered in RED

Number 3. Maybe Transit could put up signs stating:
If you are going to slow and holding up traffic, get the fark over to the slow lane.

or

SLOW lanes for slower drivers
Middle lanes to over take the slower drivers.
Fast lanes for those that are going much faster than the slow drivers.... :rofl:

Sam I Am

15th May 2007, 09:57

yep it's all mad Please dont ge me me started !!

Big Dave

15th May 2007, 10:01

Yuh.

And the one about giving way at a Tee intersection must have been written by Abbott and Costello.

WRT

15th May 2007, 10:21

answered in RED

Number 3. Maybe Transit could put up signs stating:
If you are going to slow and holding up traffic, get the fark over to the slow lane.

or

SLOW lanes for slower drivers
Middle lanes to over take the slower drivers.
Fast lanes for those that are going much faster than the slow drivers.... :rofl:

I know what you are trying to say, however we don't have "Fast" or "Slow" lanes here in NZ. In fact, even if we did use that terminology instead of left or right, they would all just be variants of "Slow". Something like "Slow", "Slower" and "Reversing only".

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 10:22

Yuh.

And the one about giving way at a Tee intersection must have been written by Abbott and Costello.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that one. Unique (and f*cking rediculous!)....

Swoop

15th May 2007, 10:40

It has been rumoured that the Irish Intelligence Service (Namely their Cypher Breaking section) has just cracked the English Road Code...:gob:

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 10:45

I know what you are trying to say, however we don't have "Fast" or "Slow" lanes here in NZ. In fact, even if we did use that terminology instead of left or right, they would all just be variants of "Slow". Something like "Slow", "Slower" and "Reversing only".

Yeah, and as for "leave a safe gap between yourself and the vehicle in front" should read "leave a gap between yourself and the vehicle in front of more than 1 metre and someone will sqeeze into it and indicate afterwards".

It's definitely been a learning curve for me.....

Pwalo

15th May 2007, 10:53

[QUOTE=Ewan Oozarmy;1055879]Yeah, and as for "leave a safe gap between yourself and the vehicle in front" should read "leave a gap between yourself and the vehicle in front of more than 1 metre and someone will sqeeze into it and indicate afterwards".

Yep that one always amazes me. It gets worse at the first hint of rain. Everyone slows down and then closes up the gaps even more.

Mind you, the authorities over here do tend to focus on speeding, rather than lane discipline, or courtesy.

Still you are in Orkland which isn't renowned for having the most patient of drivers.

WRT

15th May 2007, 10:55

Yeah, and as for "leave a safe gap between yourself and the vehicle in front" should read "leave a gap between yourself and the vehicle in front of more than 1 metre and someone will sqeeze into it and indicate afterwards".

It's definitely been a learning curve for me.....

Well you shouldnt indicate before, that just gives away your next move!

The Stranger

15th May 2007, 10:59

Well you shouldnt indicate before, that just gives away your next move!

It's no one elses business where I am going.

Swoop

15th May 2007, 11:08

Yep that one always amazes me. It gets worse at the first hint of rain. Everyone slows down and then closes up the gaps even more.
This is done for safety reasons. You are travelling at a slower velocity, so the impact speed will be much less if you drive with your front bumper up the exhaust pipe of the cage in front.
Most aftermarket exhaust pipes are NOT designed to make more noise, but the prime design requirement is to be able to accomodate a full front bumper... [/bollox mode]

forkoil

15th May 2007, 12:06

Pixie

15th May 2007, 12:06

answered in RED

Number 3. Maybe Transit could put up signs stating:
If you are going to slow and holding up traffic, get the fark over to the slow lane.

or

SLOW lanes for slower drivers
Middle lanes to over take the slower drivers.
Fast lanes for those that are going much faster than the slow drivers.... :rofl:

We have slow vehicle lanes - but aparantly no one drives a slow vehicle, regardless of how slow they are going.Cahns

Dave Lobster

15th May 2007, 12:08

I know what you are trying to say, however we don't have "Fast" or "Slow" lanes here in NZ. In fact, even if we did use that terminology instead of left or right, they would all just be variants of "Slow". Something like "Slow", "Slower" and "Reversing only".

Off topic.. but when I bought my car from the dealer in Newmarket, the asian salesman said "Don't you think Kiwis drive fast?" Er, no mate.. not at all.

Pixie

15th May 2007, 12:11

This thread is a thinly disguised hack from you overseas gits (mainly poms) on our road rules. fark off, you've got some crap ones over there too. And undertaking is a farking good idea (the others may be a bit shitty bit that one aint). :yes:

Undertaking is only a good idea when you are in a country where the fuck wit population is discourteous and will not keep left,and the cops only enforce speed infringements.
Undertaking introduces another element of unpredictability to traffic and is not good.

Dave Lobster

15th May 2007, 12:16

Why don't the cops ticket people for not keeping left?

There must be a fortune to made from it..

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 12:21

This thread is a thinly disguised hack from you overseas gits (mainly poms) on our road rules. fark off, you've got some crap ones over there too. And undertaking is a farking good idea (the others may be a bit shitty bit that one aint). :yes:

I agree - there are many crap rules in the UK, however, I'm now driving/riding in NZ and just trying to get to grips with the NZ rules.

PS - I'm English - the "poms" where the first English to arrive in Aussi - IE the convicts - Prisoner of Mother England (POME) or Prisoner of His Majesty's Service (POHMS).....whichever you prefer.....

Dave Lobster

15th May 2007, 12:24

PS - I'm English - the "poms" where the first English to arrive in Aussi - IE the convicts - Prisoner of Mother England (POME) or Prisoner of His Majesty's Service (POHMS).....whichever you prefer.....

So.. where did whinging poms originate?

Swoop

15th May 2007, 12:27

the "poms" where the first English to arrive
Were they?

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 12:29

So.. where did whinging poms originate?

The southern hemesphere I guess - mind you, us English do like a good whinge.......:yes:

vifferman

15th May 2007, 12:37

Why don't the cops ticket people for not keeping left?
Why would they?
Don't you know anything: Speed Kills.
Everything else is harmless. I mean, when did anyone ever die from failing to keep left....:whistle:
Mebbe the cops are waiting for a laser-sighted leftometer, with built-in ka-chinga to be invented.
"Ah.. yeah, you were 15.7cm to the right of keeping left, Sir! That'll be $170 dollars and 35 points."

Dave Lobster

15th May 2007, 12:49

Why would they?
Don't you know anything: Speed Kills.

Tsk.. I'm so thick sometimes..:angry:

forkoil

15th May 2007, 13:00

I agree - there are many crap rules in the UK, however, I'm now driving/riding in NZ and just trying to get to grips with the NZ rules.

PS - I'm English - the "poms" where the first English to arrive in Aussi - IE the convicts - Prisoner of Mother England (POME) or Prisoner of His Majesty's Service (POHMS).....whichever you prefer.....

Ahem......

"In fact, we first come across it in print during World War I, in 1914, as a derogatory term for an immigrant to Australia from England. It is a quotation from D.H. Lawrence's Kangaroo in 1923 that gives us the most popularly accepted etymology of this word: "Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably 'pommygranate', is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood ‘thins down’, by their round and ruddy cheeks. So we are told." Slang lexicographer Eric Partridge also favors the pomegranate derivation, and he gives a slightly more detailed explanation by quoting from H.J. Rumsey's The Pommies (1920): "Colonial boys and girls, ready to find a nickname, were fond of rhyming Immigrant, Jimmy-grant, Pommegrant, and called it to the new chum children. The name stuck and became abbreviated to pommy later on." Partridge also believes that the word was being used as far back as the end of the 19th century. It is often the case with slang that it is spoken for several years before it is put into writing. Anyhow, the OED is careful to note that there is no good evidence supporting the pomegranate derivation."

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 14:46

Ahem......

"In fact, we first come across it in print during World War I, in 1914, as a derogatory term for an immigrant to Australia from England. It is a quotation from D.H. Lawrence's Kangaroo in 1923 that gives us the most popularly accepted etymology of this word: "Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably 'pommygranate', is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood ‘thins down’, by their round and ruddy cheeks. So we are told." Slang lexicographer Eric Partridge also favors the pomegranate derivation, and he gives a slightly more detailed explanation by quoting from H.J. Rumsey's The Pommies (1920): "Colonial boys and girls, ready to find a nickname, were fond of rhyming Immigrant, Jimmy-grant, Pommegrant, and called it to the new chum children. The name stuck and became abbreviated to pommy later on." Partridge also believes that the word was being used as far back as the end of the 19th century. It is often the case with slang that it is spoken for several years before it is put into writing. Anyhow, the OED is careful to note that there is no good evidence supporting the pomegranate derivation."

Hhhmmmmmm - another theory which still involves English migrating to Australia - interesting.......

forkoil

15th May 2007, 15:23

Hhhmmmmmm - another theory which still involves English migrating to Australia - interesting.......
ooz - you cant escape being a pom, just accept it, it wont hurt (after a while). Poms are poms, in Aus or New Zild. They pinch our words too, like pavlova. Anyway welcome, lie back and think of mother england.

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 15:34

They pinch our words too, like pavlova. Anyway welcome, lie back and think of mother england.

Pavlova - Excellent!! Cheers, Forkoil - it's good to be here. My missus is a Kiwi and has lived over in London with me for the last 10 years, so now it's my turn to get the "foreigner abuse" :yes:

forkoil

15th May 2007, 15:57

Pavlova - Excellent!! Cheers, Forkoil - it's good to be here. My missus is a Kiwi and has lived over in London with me for the last 10 years, so now it's my turn to get the "foreigner abuse" :yes:
Welcome Ewan, enjoy the ride. Good to get out and ride some of the roads, do you intend racing that chook chaser of yours?

Ewan Oozarmy

15th May 2007, 16:14

Welcome Ewan, enjoy the ride. Good to get out and ride some of the roads, do you intend racing that chook chaser of yours?

Yeah - i've had a lot of fun on the roads here, especially on route to Piha!

I had one of these for the last couple of years in London and raced on and off so would love to here. We shall see....