Another 10 cents per litre.

[Mully]

Uncle Helen and her Biatch Cullen have decided we have too much money, so we should pay another 10c/litre for petrol.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10440242

[JimO]

well you can blame whoever voted the pricks in but dont worry the rest of the country will get in on the act soon

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Lesbos Conspiros :spanking:

[steved]

I know I have too much.

I keep trying to think of more ways I can give some money to that hard -uck story, the New Zealand government.

[Harry33]

wow another 10c a litre, Yay to live in Auckland and Wellington.

[Drum]

Limited effect on riders, but a bit of a blow for the SUV drivers. User pays.

[Hitcher]

The new regional fuel taxes won't happen overnight. They can only be claimed by the two respective Regional Councils after public consultation over which projects they may be necessary to fund and, following that, after a case is made to the Minister. And to a maximum of 10 cents a litre.

Given Auckland's proven inability to think regionally it may be some time before a regional fuel tax appears up there. Any such tax in Wellington will possibly happen as a response to objectives outlined in an upcoming Regional Land Transport Strategy.

[Squeak the Rat]

Lets just hope this petrol tax actually gets used on roading and transport unlike the current petrol tax that was supposed to get used on roading and transport........

[R6_kid]

the higher of price the gas the better... you ride bikes for a reason remember.

10c a litre equates to just over $1.70 extra per fill for a biker... have a cry - just because you've now lost that money you use to spend on a chocolate bar... shit maybe not having that bar will cause you to lose weight and get better fuel economy!

On a serious note... its still better if the prices go up, cagers get pissy that they can't afford to pay for their gas so they don't drive as much, take the bus etc... ok so its not what really will happen at 10c a litre. Just keep your fingers crossed that the money goes to improving roads and providing better public transport.

[jetboy]

Lets just hope this petrol tax actually gets used on roading and transport unlike the current petrol tax that was supposed to get used on roading and transport........
Damn straight man, damn straight.

[ZeroIndex]

the higher of price the gas the better... you ride bikes for a reason remember.

10c a litre equates to just over $1.70 extra per fill for a biker... have a cry - just because you've now lost that money you use to spend on a chocolate bar... shit maybe not having that bar will cause you to lose weight and get better fuel economy!

On a serious note... its still better if the prices go up, cagers get pissy that they can't afford to pay for their gas so they don't drive as much, take the bus etc... ok so its not what really will happen at 10c a litre. Just keep your fingers crossed that the money goes to improving roads and providing better public transport.

Nice thoughtful post... I hope you're right

[ZeroIndex]

Hey, after reading that news-post, I realised something... I don't live in Auckland or Wellington :motu: hahahahaha

[EJT]

up to 10c a litre - Bummer:angry:

Suppose it might make more cagers take up motorcycling

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10440242

[Squeak the Rat]

Hey, after reading that news-post, I realised something... I don't live in Auckland or Wellington :motu: hahahahaha

No, but you DO live in Hamilton :rofl: :rofl:

[Chisanga]

I thought Cullen said they would start with a 5c raise then see after that.... maybe I miss heard the cretin...his voice annoys me so I tend to tune out.

[jimbo600]

Well he can fuck off. I'm off to Aussie. Why the fuck should I help pay for a bit of road I'll rarely use???

[White trash]

Well he can fuck off. I'm off to Aussie. Why the fuck should I help pay for a bit of road I'll rarely use???
Good ridance, you'll raise the IQ levels of both cuntrys when you leave.

By the way, can you take some pictures of me ridin' me bike?

[Swoop]

its still better if the prices go up, cagers get pissy that they can't afford to pay for their gas so they don't drive as much, take the bus etc...

I don't think so. Look at what happened during the two big fuelprice increases that happened over the last year or so. Fuel went up and some cagers took public transport. When it went back down they happily hopped back into the car.

Our fuel price now is almost the same as in the height of the "OMFG! I can't afford that!!!" increases, yet nobody is bitching.

Strange that the dollar is incredibly strong, yet the price of Benzine at the pump has yet to lower...

[MisterD]

Anyone know where the boundary between "Auckland" and "not Auckland" will be? I think I'll buy a petrol station just south of that line....

[Grahameeboy]

Lets just hope this petrol tax actually gets used on roading and transport unlike the current petrol tax that was supposed to get used on roading and transport........

In the UK just 20% of Road Tax goes on roads.............keep hoping

[Mr. Peanut]

"* Tax credits of up to $40 a week for Kiwisavers"

FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!

Piss off with your Kiwisaver bullshit >_< !!!

"* $2m to prevent violence in Maori whanau and communities"

What a load of arse. Preventing violence by making the poor poorer? Another unfair tax. Good one.

[doc]

Anyone know where the boundary between "Auckland" and "not Auckland" will be? I think I'll buy a petrol station just south of that line....This is acurate as Bird Flu warnings, but I was told at work that Sth Auck demarcation line was Tuakau. This is where I think we should "All be part of "BIKERS RIGHTS ORGANISATION" We are not part of the problem, but we will roll over and spread them once again. Bikes will allieviate the problem . But we will as Kiwi's will put up and shutup. The Aussies fought GST until it was forced on them we just "Sucked the Sav' cobber. I can understand why people want to emmigrate. Rant over. In the present boring environment I'll probably be banned. Bring back FINN and DOVER

[ZeroIndex]

No, but you DO live in Hamilton :rofl: :rofl:

Yes, that's why I wake up every morning and think: "Thank God I'm not in Auckland"

[Mully]

Yes, that's why I wake up every morning and think: "Thank God I'm not in Auckland"

Funnily enough, I think most of Auckland wakes up every morning and thinks "Thank God ZeroIndex isn't in Auckland" (P/T before I'm Sin Binned)

[Smokin]

Don't know what your complaining about, We have been paying 10 cents per litre more than Auckland for bloody years. User pays remember.

[jafar]

Don't know what your complaining about, We have been paying 10 cents per litre more than Auckland for bloody years. User pays remember.

Yeah but you have nice roads & bugger all :Police: . Its worth the extra 10 cents for that :dodge:

[marty]

Well he can fuck off. I'm off to Aussie. Why the fuck should I help pay for a bit of road I'll rarely use???


what, like the road across the Nullabor?

[Smokin]

Yep, we don't have anywhere near as many cops, not sure who told you we have good roads tho, must have been a labour politition, we have to ride dirt bikes so we can get out of the potholes.

[Coyote]

'Wellington' includes Upper Hutt doesn't it?


Might make a good excuse to go to Featherston and fill the tank up

[xwhatsit]

Meh it's not so bad. It usually costs me $10 for near 300kms, like anybody who rides a motorcycle ever cares about the price of petrol? OK, maybe some thou riders.

The reason for the tax is to build new roads. Why are we complaining? Less congestion and cagers clogging up the roads, for about a dollar every week? Care-factor=0.

[jafar]

Meh it's not so bad. It usually costs me $10 for near 300kms, like anybody who rides a motorcycle ever cares about the price of petrol? OK, maybe some thou riders.

The reason for the tax is to build new roads. Why are we complaining? Less congestion and cagers clogging up the roads, for about a dollar every week? Care-factor=0.

New roads have already been paid for by the petrol tax / diesel tax / road user charges etc that we have all paid . This is just another tax grab & will make no difference to the roads @ all.... 10 cents per litre + tolling the roads that we have already paid for , what a crock:shit:
Current political policy is to redirect monies collected from the roads to the consolidated fund , there is no reason to think the policy will change.

There are liars, damn liars & politicians:angry:

[oldrider]

Anyone know where the boundary between "Auckland" and "not Auckland" will be? I think I'll buy a petrol station just south of that line....

Just heard on the news TV1 budget report, that the Southern boundary for Auckland will be Wellington.

The Northern boundary for Wellington will be Auckland!

Have they missed anybody? :innocent: John.

[xwhatsit]

You're not seeing the point, possibly because your bike has 1800cc. These are new, big, massive roading projects, that could be done with the existing taxation but it would take much longer; meanwhile the traffic is getting worse and worse. I'm glad they're actually doing something instead of procrastinating (which is what they've done in Auckland for years). This 10c per litre helps to get there a lot faster. I thought the tolls had been done and dusted?

Consolidated fund, blah blah blah. Again, pointless. So the money from the road tax gets spent on, e.g., education. Well that's good, because that way the money from education won't be spent on the health system. Don't you see the point? Simple finances; net money comes in, net money goes out. Who cares where it comes from, it's all consolidated in its own way and all gets spent where it needs to be spent.

[jimbo600]

Good ridance, you'll raise the IQ levels of both cuntrys when you leave.

By the way, can you take some pictures of me ridin' me bike?

Sure. Need a big lens to get some pics from Canberra though.

[more_fasterer]

Simple finances; net money comes in, net money goes out. Who cares where it comes from, it's all consolidated in its own way and all gets spent where it needs to be spent.

Absolutely. Which is why the govt. had a $6.5 billion surplus for the eight months up to february this year.

[Patrick]

Just heard on the news TV1 budget report, that the Southern boundary for Auckland will be Wellington.

The Northern boundary for Wellington will be Auckland!

Have they missed anybody? :innocent: John.

The southern boundary for Wellington will be the bottom of Stewart Island??

[avgas]

No, but you DO live in Hamilton :rofl: :rofl:
Is that the place in between Huntly and Taupo?

[Lias]

Best law labour have ever introduced.

I've long been a very staunch advocate of higher prices for Auckland.

Auckland needs more power, so they are railroading new pylons through the waikato despite massive opposition. As far as I'm concerned they should underground it the entire way, and just charge aucklanders more for their power.

Aucklanders need new public transport and more motorways? Guess what it should all come from auckland only petrol taxes. You guys are bikers and only use a fraction of the petrol that cages do anyways, so uncle chopper definitly says harden the fuck up.

It's not just an anti auckland thing thou, I also think that farmers should be forced to pay the full cost for delivery of power and phone to rural locations, rather than urban dwellers subsidising them as it currently is.

[avgas]

This 10c per litre helps to get there a lot faster. I thought the tolls had been done and dusted?
Route PKJ or whatever has a toll
Fact of the matter is that it never works. I've seen it done too many times and fail before. Had a claim on ACC lately? That increased a fair wack a while ago. There always has been (since we needed to put aside money for roading) a road tax of 4 cents. I realise that the population has increased but so has the income from this tax.
Also in terms of us getting better roading - we had it, back in the 90s'. All they do now is take my corners away to save the idoits who are allowed to drive. If the corners are such a hazard then how come pissed parrots only crash on them Transit?
Dont forget your GST, income tax (to stop you earning more) and now a retirement scheme (because the govt cant afford it no more).
I'm giving this cuntry 2 years to sort its shit out. Otherwise i will go elsewhere and ditch this dump (for the rest of the world)

[avgas]

It's not just an anti auckland thing thou, I also think that farmers should be forced to pay the full cost for delivery of power and phone to rural locations, rather than urban dwellers subsidising them as it currently is.
Really, i dont mind that concept (seeing as most rural dont even have decent dial up yet). Seeing as a fairly large percentage of beneficary NZ live in urban areas.

[Patrick]

Is that the place in between Huntly and Taupo?

Could be... always covered in fog, so a little hard to tell...

[peasea]

Lets just hope this petrol tax actually gets used on roading and transport unlike the current petrol tax that was supposed to get used on roading and transport........


FAT CHANCE!!

We run four vehicles, two bikes, two cars, one of them a V8. We use the V8 for touring so we can grab the first few litres near home, head out of town and fill up. They'll have to fight pretty hard to get that extra ten cents from us!

We're outta town at Christmas anyway.........:whocares:

[ZeroIndex]

Best law labour have ever introduced.

I've long been a very staunch advocate of higher prices for Auckland.

Auckland needs more power, so they are railroading new pylons through the waikato despite massive opposition. As far as I'm concerned they should underground it the entire way, and just charge aucklanders more for their power.

Aucklanders need new public transport and more motorways? Guess what it should all come from auckland only petrol taxes. You guys are bikers and only use a fraction of the petrol that cages do anyways, so uncle chopper definitly says harden the fuck up.

It's not just an anti auckland thing thou, I also think that farmers should be forced to pay the full cost for delivery of power and phone to rural locations, rather than urban dwellers subsidising them as it currently is.

What he said :yes:

[oldrider]

FAT CHANCE!!

We run four vehicles, two bikes, two cars, one of them a V8. We use the V8 for touring so we can grab the first few litres near home, head out of town and fill up. They'll have to fight pretty hard to get that extra ten cents from us!

We're outta town at Christmas anyway.........:whocares:

But it's not just 10c, because the 10c/ltr is at the wholesale rate and there is multiple GST on top of that, they are really putting the screws in tight apparently.

So I heard on the radio this morning, glad I don't live up there! :shit: John.

[MSTRS]

The reason for the tax is to build new roads. Why are we complaining? Less congestion and cagers clogging up the roads, for about a dollar every week? Care-factor=0.

Huh? That is the head-in-the-sand attitude that helped develop the problem with Auckland roads in the first place. Improve the roading and more people will drive = back to the same old problem.
The answer lies in an integrated public transport system that is convenient to use.
It'll never happen tho.

[xwhatsit]

Huh? That is the head-in-the-sand attitude that helped develop the problem with Auckland roads in the first place. Improve the roading and more people will drive = back to the same old problem.
The answer lies in an integrated public transport system that is convenient to use.
It'll never happen tho.

I wish I wish I wish there could be a decent public transport system, but it's unlikely. Light rail would be awesome.

However what you're advocating is a little odd; let the roads turn to shit so everybody will be forced to use public transport. That's mental. Current road system is too poor even if public transport use was double.

[Cr1MiNaL]

yea roger that mate... I used to drive a twin turbo gto prior to ma R6.... used to really hurt aye... not i dont give a sh*t either way.... even 2 bucks a litre is better with a bike than it is with my 400hp cage ;)

[jafar]

You're not seeing the point, possibly because your bike has 1800cc. These are new, big, massive roading projects, that could be done with the existing taxation but it would take much longer; meanwhile the traffic is getting worse and worse. I'm glad they're actually doing something instead of procrastinating (which is what they've done in Auckland for years). This 10c per litre helps to get there a lot faster. I thought the tolls had been done and dusted?

Consolidated fund, blah blah blah. Again, pointless. So the money from the road tax gets spent on, e.g., education. Well that's good, because that way the money from education won't be spent on the health system. Don't you see the point? Simple finances; net money comes in, net money goes out. Who cares where it comes from, it's all consolidated in its own way and all gets spent where it needs to be spent.


Oh my gawd, you actually BELIEVE the garbage they are peddling to us :gob: We as a country have PAID for these projects already.
The fact that they have spent the money in other sectors doesn't alter that fact. We have been taxed for these "projects" & now are going to be taxed again & to top it off the new roads will be tolled as well :shit: This is a classic case of double dipping.:angry:

[MSTRS]

I wish I wish I wish there could be a decent public transport system, but it's unlikely. Light rail would be awesome.

However what you're advocating is a little odd; let the roads turn to shit so everybody will be forced to use public transport. That's mental. Current road system is too poor even if public transport use was double.

Dunno how you arrive at that conclusion. Decent public transport would relieve the congestion, because people would chose to use it. Those people would also laugh at the 10c/l surcharge.

[Delerium]

You're not seeing the point, possibly because your bike has 1800cc. These are new, big, massive roading projects, that could be done with the existing taxation but it would take much longer; meanwhile the traffic is getting worse and worse. I'm glad they're actually doing something instead of procrastinating (which is what they've done in Auckland for years). This 10c per litre helps to get there a lot faster. I thought the tolls had been done and dusted?

Consolidated fund, blah blah blah. Again, pointless. So the money from the road tax gets spent on, e.g., education. Well that's good, because that way the money from education won't be spent on the health system. Don't you see the point? Simple finances; net money comes in, net money goes out. Who cares where it comes from, it's all consolidated in its own way and all gets spent where it needs to be spent.


But the money paid over the last 30 years has ALREADY paid for these new projects but the cash was diverted elsewhere, and thats NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

[Delerium]

Best law labour have ever introduced.

I've long been a very staunch advocate of higher prices for Auckland.

Auckland needs more power, so they are railroading new pylons through the waikato despite massive opposition. As far as I'm concerned they should underground it the entire way, and just charge aucklanders more for their power.

Aucklanders need new public transport and more motorways? Guess what it should all come from auckland only petrol taxes. You guys are bikers and only use a fraction of the petrol that cages do anyways, so uncle chopper definitly says harden the fuck up.

It's not just an anti auckland thing thou, I also think that farmers should be forced to pay the full cost for delivery of power and phone to rural locations, rather than urban dwellers subsidising them as it currently is.


Ok, then give us back all the money that we have paid to subsidise your roading over the last 30 years... oh wait, if that hadnt gone elsewhere there would still be dirt roads through the middle of town (slight exaggeration)

This is typical, just tax the problem away rather than having a viable alternative. the public transport in auckland is abysmal.

[Hitcher]

But the money paid over the last 30 years has ALREADY paid for these new projects but the cash was diverted elsewhere, and thats NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Get over it. New Zealand's infrastructure has been run into the ground over the past 30 years -- arguably because people haven't been paying enough tax or rates (not to mention a few corrupt or highly dodgy sales of state assets). If you want to live in a first-world country with the biggest, brightest and best, you will have to pay for it. Despite what many kiwis think, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

[oldrider]

I don't mind paying for the things that we as a country really need (including Auckland's roading problems) but I have been hearing the same old crap for so long and still seeing nothing done towards rectifying the problems.

Mayor after Mayor after Mayor, nothing actually changes.

Auckland has been saying the same things since I was based there in the early sixties! (Dovemyer Robinson I think was the Mayor then)

They should re write their slogan "City of Sails" to read "City of indecision" John.

[NighthawkNZ]

I don't mind paying for the things that we as a country really need (including Auckland's roading problems) but I have been hearing the same old crap for so long and still seeing nothing done towards rectifying the problems.


I remember when I lived in Auckland it was the same and that was 20 years ago... and every one said well its only going to get worse... and what have they done since then... hmmm :scratch: