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Jinx3d
19th May 2007, 20:14
I notice that the Michelin site data shows the New Pilot road 2ct has more grip and durability that the old pilot sport.

I presume the old Pilot road and sport are on the way out?

Any one tried the Road 2ct?

bobsmith
19th May 2007, 20:30
My fiancee's father has them on his hornet 900. He absolutely loves them to bits and it's worn down right to the edges of the tyre.

ZeroIndex
20th May 2007, 02:40
Shinko 003's are really good apparantly... you might wanna have a look at prices of the 003's vs those pilot 2ct's...

Cajun
20th May 2007, 08:25
Jinx - i would suggust the standard PP on the tl, over the 2ct

I have got a set of 2ct on my 600 at moment great tires, but with the softer rubber on the sides not gonna last as long as a normal pp tire i had before.

I have been able to 'tear' up the side of the 2ct far easier than i could on the standard PP, and espicaly you being on a twin with much more torque than my sixer.

but even the PP, as far more grip and durability than the pilot sport, the powers have been out for a good 3 years now, they superseeded the sport

Enjoy

trumpy
20th May 2007, 10:03
.....I've got a set of 2ct on my 600 at moment great tires, but with the softer rubber on the sides not gonna last as long as a normal pp tire i had before..........

Power 2CT's or Road 2CT's?... Like a few other people I have found my standard Powers get a bit "squidgy" at the rear on the road although fine on a track day. Particularly noticable as they start to wear. Took Sensei's suggestion and replaced the rear with a Sports. Feels rock solid now but then I've only done about 150k's on them so far!
For my kind of riding (old and slow) the Road 2CT's sound like a better investment. Keen to see how others get on with them while I wear out my current tyre combination.

terbang
20th May 2007, 10:31
Had Pilot Power 2CT's on my Busa. Just fine, especially in the wet.

smoky
20th May 2007, 10:42
I needed a couple of tyres last month, ...... I got a set of the new Michelin Pilot Road 2.
Long story short they said it offers better wet grip and longer tread life than any of its competitors. CERM (Centre d'Essais Routiers Mechanique) an independent test company 'proved' that it wears better and grips better in the wet than the Pirelli Diablo Strada, Bridgestone BT021 and BT020, Dunlop Sportmax D220, Continental Road Attack Z and the Metzeler Roadtec Z6. (sportbike magazine).

The magic of duel compounds.
They were a good price too - about $450 for the two, fitted.

I have no regrets - they're great tyres, wet and dry - nearly 3000 ks so far

However some other relevant quotes:

Duel Compounding is not a good thing anyways, not for tyre life....or safety really. Think of a Licorice allsort - you can peel it apart where the diffrent pieces meet. The same goes for the meet of compuonding in a tyre - Just ask James Toesland, this degradation was what forced his exit at Monza in superbikes last weekend.

Cajun
21st May 2007, 09:15
Power 2CT's or Road 2CT's?... Like a few other people I have found my standard Powers get a bit "squidgy" at the rear on the road although fine on a track day. Particularly noticable as they start to wear. Took Sensei's suggestion and replaced the rear with a Sports. Feels rock solid now but then I've only done about 150k's on them so far!
For my kind of riding (old and slow) the Road 2CT's sound like a better investment. Keen to see how others get on with them while I wear out my current tyre combination.


Power 2ct on my bike
I am on my 3rd set of powers, (first set of 2cts tho)(total 16,000kms on powers), only time i feel rear is a bit squidgy is in that mid point between cold/warm.

I looked seen the road 2ct, seam like good tires, i had the normal roads on my old gsxr1100, were good tires for that bike. Suggusted a few people to head to road2s, but they are very hard to get old at moment, new shippmend is due in the next week or so,

90s
21st May 2007, 16:39
However some other relevant quotes: Duel Compounding is not a good thing anyways, not for tyre life....or safety really. Think of a Licorice allsort - you can peel it apart where the diffrent pieces meet. The same goes for the meet of compuonding in a tyre

The mind boggles at this! I would like to think materials technology for dual compound tyres is a little more advanced than the process used for liq. allsorts!
However, what do I know? And I reckon that as they do taste like eating tyres maybe they are made on the same production line after all.

So what's your favourite tasting tyre? (got to be the sports - chewy centres mmmm)

Bulldog
21st May 2007, 21:09
i just put some road 2s on my 04 blade....i'll let u know how they go.

Jinx3d
22nd May 2007, 21:12
The mind boggles at this! I would like to think materials technology for dual compound tyres is a little more advanced than the process used for liq. allsorts!

Yes, I disagre, with that statement about them delaminating, I dont think James Toselands bike and mine share any similaroties other than two wheels.

My favourite tyre right now is the Mich Z6 - I cant believe how much better than my old diablos they are (in typical winter riding/commuting temperatures.- I am sure the diablo would kick Z6 ass on a track day?)

My Z6's will cold slide for the first kilometer or so, the diablos cold slide after 20 kays of riding in the winter.

Stilll, always like to try new tyres, I think I will try the Pilot road 2ct....

dogsnbikes
22nd May 2007, 21:33
I have the power's on my Daytona and find them great in all conditions and have done 5000k on them so far which is more than I got from the sport although the sport is great too for those faster than normal trips:innocent:

Really it comes down to what your perfence is and your riding style but I give thumbs up to both the sport and the power:Punk:

Pumba
25th May 2007, 23:17
The SV come out with the sports standard , certinly wernt a bad tyre and you would hope the 2ct is an improvement. Personally I have gone to the continental road attck on the rear and am impressed. I cant wait to replace the frount and see hw that goes.

NZsarge
26th May 2007, 00:20
When I bought my bike in december it had a Metzler thingy on the front (sorry, dunno what model it was) and a Macadam on the rear. I did'nt much care for the Metz, it felt like the front wanted to push away every time I turned into a corner. The Macadam was'nt too bad i thought, anyway the front chucked it in first and I replaced it with a Pilot Power...WOW what a revelation, I know an improvement is to be expected going from an old tyre to new but it was HUGE! When I replaced the Maca with a Power it to yeilded an improvment too but no where near as radical. Powers get my vote but I must say the PP 2CT's I find interesting and I might just give them a go next time, well on the rear at least but only in the interest of more even wear over the life of the tyre in the hopes that the 2CT might possibly avoid some of the squaring off of the tyre.

Pixie
27th May 2007, 11:39
Yes, I disagre, with that statement about them delaminating, I dont think James Toselands bike and mine share any similaroties other than two wheels.

My favourite tyre right now is the Mich Z6 - I cant believe how much better than my old diablos they are (in typical winter riding/commuting temperatures.- I am sure the diablo would kick Z6 ass on a track day?)

My Z6's will cold slide for the first kilometer or so, the diablos cold slide after 20 kays of riding in the winter.

Stilll, always like to try new tyres, I think I will try the Pilot road 2ct....

I liked the Z6,too.But I found they would occassionally slide for no reason.
The Pilot Road I prefered,plus they are much cheaper than the inflated (ha ha )price of the Z6.
The Pilot Road 2CT is reported to be a major improvement.
My bike is not as powerful as Mr Toesland's

Sparky Bills
27th May 2007, 12:10
Ive just put a set of Pilot Power 2CT's on the 07 Blade.
WHOLEY SHIT!!! They make the bike feel SOOOO planted!
Doesnt fall in, doesnt pick up. Does exactly what its asked.
Will give the Road 2's a go next. If they feel anything like the Power's, i dont think there will be anything to worry about.


Will let you know how many K's i get out of them.
Usually get bout 4500 out of a rear, but will see.

smoky
27th May 2007, 21:53
Will let you know how many K's i get out of them. Usually get bout 4500 out of a rear, but will see.

Man!!! only 4500 k's. Do you ride hard, or is that all you can expect from them? :shit:
I've already done 3000 on my Pilot Road2's - I may get about 10,000 K's at a push.

T.W.R
29th May 2007, 22:16
Just put a Pilot Road CT2 on the rear today and couldn't help but notice the lightness of the tyre compared to the Pirelli I took off :yes: should have weighed the tyres but it felt as if there was at least .5kg difference and the Michelin is so much softer in the carcass & sidewalls too

nadroj
30th May 2007, 07:35
Man!!! only 4500 k's. Do you ride hard, or is that all you can expect from them? :shit:
I've already done 3000 on my Pilot Road2's - I may get about 10,000 K's at a push.

Naaaa the harder you ride on them the less you use the centre. Just changed a PP for a PP2 on the front of the Busa after 17,000km & got 11,000km out of my last rear.

pritch
31st May 2007, 15:47
Umm I'd be interested to know if Pilot Roads, 2 or otherwise, were actually a recommended fitment on a CBR.

I once read where a tyre comparison test was being done and the magazine people had a real hard job to convince the tyre fitters to put sprot touring tyres on a CBR 600 because they weren't approved for the bike.

The CBR1000s I've seen came with Diablo Corsas which is a whole different thing.

Cajun
1st June 2007, 07:40
Umm I'd be interested to know if Pilot Roads, 2 or otherwise, were actually a recommended fitment on a CBR.

I once read where a tyre comparison test was being done and the magazine people had a real hard job to convince the tyre fitters to put sprot touring tyres on a CBR 600 because they weren't approved for the bike.

The CBR1000s I've seen came with Diablo Corsas which is a whole different thing.

Had a look at michelin site

600 it says you can put powers, sports, roads (did not say roads 2, but had old roads, which no one really should be putting on any more superseeded with road 2's)

With the 1000 it only says powers, sports, not the roads tho.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/home/home.jsp?lang=EN