BMW helps nail 105mph V-sign biker

[limbimtimwim]

"Bus driver Philip Coffey appeared before the beak at Luton Crown Court earlier this week on 10 counts of dangerous driving after he was tracked by police "with the help of BMW and a national registration database". "

See: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/17/v_sign_biker/

Okay, so I imagine BMW only helped the (UK) cops ID the model of BMW, not the rider itself. The headline is a bit sensational.

Man I'd love the NZ police to give the picture of a my GSXR to Suzuki. "Okay, yeah, it's blue and white GSXR. We've sold.. Several of those"

Now the serious question: Do you agree with your bike vendor helping the police with speed camera bullshit?

[MSTRS]

Agree? Fuck no. That opens up an even bigger can of worms out there. However...time and place...rider's choice eh?

[RantyDave]

Okay, so I imagine BMW only helped the (UK) cops ID the model of BMW, not the rider itself.
Himself. But that's not my reading of the article at all: as far as I can tell the cops had a picture of the biker from the front, not the back. So they called BMW and asked them what type of bike it was and the names of all the people in Bedfordshire who had one. They got three hits, one of whom had matching leathers and had also pimped his headlights and ... you're nicked, sonny.

Hey, BMW, I buy motorbikes and fuck you.

Dave

[limbimtimwim]

Himself.BMW riders are people?

Me not being a person, I do have a certain desire for early 80's BMW bikes.. Eww.. I admitted that..

[marty]

i would suggest BMW were required to pass this information, after being presented with a seach warrant. i doubt whether the cops would go to the trouble without having some legal power, likewise i doubt BMW would give the info without having been compelled to do so.

[Lias]

http://www.leightonbuzzardonline.co.uk/news?articleid=2884995

Complete with pic of him giving the V

[peasea]

"Bus driver Philip Coffey appeared before the beak at Luton Crown Court earlier this week on 10 counts of dangerous driving after he was tracked by police "with the help of BMW and a national registration database". "

See: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/17/v_sign_biker/

Okay, so I imagine BMW only helped the (UK) cops ID the model of BMW, not the rider itself. The headline is a bit sensational.

Man I'd love the NZ police to give the picture of a my GSXR to Suzuki. "Okay, yeah, it's blue and white GSXR. We've sold.. Several of those"

Now the serious question: Do you agree with your bike vendor helping the police with speed camera bullshit?

If that happened to me I would not only switch rides I'd be skulking in dark alleyways. That sucks big time. A murderer or kiddie fiddler, sure, but a speed camera???? Someone needs a wake up call.

[kiwifruit]

for sure
the sooner the speeding motorists are removed from the roads the better
speed kills
there will be limiters on bikes soon, i look forward to that time

[MSTRS]

Who is this using Kiwifruit's login?? Them's not the words of a biker....

[Str8 Jacket]

Me not being a person, I do have a certain desire for early 80's BMW bikes.. Eww.. I admitted that..

If i'd known that I would not have brought that beer round the yesterday. Im soooo ashamed of you, you dirty, dirty man!

[kiwifruit]

Who is this using Kiwifruit's login?? Them's not the words of a biker....

its moi
im a biker who has seen the light
exceeding posted speed limits is the root of all evil and should be treated as such

*down with speed*
*down with speed*

join in with me brothers and sisters
together we can do it!

[MSTRS]

its moi
im a biker who has seen the light
exceeding posted speed limits is the root of all evil and should be treated as such

*down with speed*
*down with speed*

join in with me brothers and sisters
together we can do it!

Just hang on.....the meds are on the way.....

[more_fasterer]

im a biker who has seen the light
exceeding posted speed limits is the root of all evil and should be treated as such

Damn right. I've given up on that speeding lark. Taken to burgling houses instead, it's much safer.

[Fatjim]

i would suggest BMW were required to pass this information, after being presented with a seach warrant. i doubt whether the cops would go to the trouble without having some legal power, likewise i doubt BMW would give the info without having been compelled to do so.

Maybe the fact that they supply the plod with bikes helped them make up their minds to help?

[swbarnett]

its moi
im a biker who has seen the light
exceeding posted speed limits is the root of all evil and should be treated as such

*down with speed*
*down with speed*

join in with me brothers and sisters
together we can do it!

Speed, in and of itself, has never been a sole causative factor in any accident. Something else has to go wrong.

You are a lot safer doing 200km/h on a well maintained vehicle than a beat up old dunga with bald tyres and dodgy brakes.

If the posted speed limit were turned into a safety limit it would be a different limit for everyone depending on the skill of the driver/rider, the condition of the vehicle and the environmental conditions at the time.

[Grub]

Man I'd love the NZ police to give the picture of a my GSXR to Suzuki. "Okay, yeah, it's blue and white GSXR. We've sold.. Several of those"

Thay don't have to have a picture of your bike LBTW ... just that helmet - there's no other like it.

[kiwifruit]

Speed, in and of itself, has never been a sole causative factor in any accident. Something else has to go wrong.

You are a lot safer doing 200km/h on a well maintained vehicle than a beat up old dunga with bald tyres and dodgy brakes.

If the posted speed limit were turned into a safety limit it would be a different limit for everyone depending on the skill of the driver/rider, the condition of the vehicle and the environmental conditions at the time.

speed kills!




im taking the piss, just call me bitter = )

[Krusti]

Wouldn't need to go to Dealer in NZ. The tosser would have posted, bragged on KB!

[Storm]

If the posted speed limit were turned into a safety limit it would be a different limit for everyone depending on the skill of the driver/rider, the condition of the vehicle and the environmental conditions at the time.

Thats the problem. What happens when hormonal immature fucktards think they are capable of much higher skills than they are?

And regarding the biker in question- he broke the law. Plain and simple. Worse, he thinks he is above the law because "he doesnt agree with the existance of them(speed cameras)" Hello ! I bet crims dont like the facts it illegal to steal your stuff or make P either! If you dont like the laws, go lobby the government, dont decide that you're special and they dont apply to you

My 2p

[swbarnett]

Thats the problem. What happens when hormonal immature fucktards think they are capable of much higher skills than they are?

And regarding the biker in question- he broke the law. Plain and simple. Worse, he thinks he is above the law because "he doesnt agree with the existance of them(speed cameras)" Hello ! I bet crims dont like the facts it illegal to steal your stuff or make P either! If you dont like the laws, go lobby the government, dont decide that you're special and they dont apply to you

My 2p

I agree that people that drive outside their limits are a problem. Personally I'd far rather have no speed limit and just throw the book at anybody that directly caused an accident by whatever means (proof of the pudding model).

Laws do apply to me. If I don't agree with a law I may decide to ignore it depending on the likelihood of getting caught and what the consequences are. If I do get caught the I'll take the penalty without complaint.

Lobbying government won't help because logic never wins over emotion.

On a related note, it has been shown that where speed limits have removed the accident rate has actually dropped. If anyone's interested I think I've got a PDF somewhere of the "Investigate" magazine article.

Bullets are harmless, it's the idiot holding the gun you have to worry about.

[shcabbeh]

I agree that people that drive outside their limits are a problem. Personally I'd far rather have no speed limit and just throw the book at anybody that directly caused an accident by whatever means (proof of the pudding model).

The only problem there is that people have to die first. A prick who causes a family of people to die while killing himself is hardly justice.

I would say that speed limits were probably first instated because of some idiots who thought they could ride faster than they can. It's like a lot of things in our society. Labels on jars, learner licences etc.

I know it's probably impractical, but a licence to go over the speed limit would be sweet. Some kind of elite training you'd have to go through. Then again, analysts say the roads can't handle the speeds...shrug! Just thoughts.

[swbarnett]

The only problem there is that people have to die first. A prick who causes a family of people to die while killing himself is hardly justice.

It's not about justice. Justice will always be after the fact. It's about deterrent. You'd have to be damn sure that you could handle it before you pushed your vehicle. You'd still have reckless and dangerous driving in the police arsenal.


I would say that speed limits were probably first instated because of some idiots who thought they could ride faster than they can.

You're probably right. The trouble with this, as with a a lot of laws, is that the freedom of the majority is curtailed because of the antics of a few idiots and the pain of a few victims.


I know it's probably impractical, but a licence to go over the speed limit would be sweet.

I'd be right behind you on this one. It may well be a good compromise.


Then again, analysts say the roads can't handle the speeds...shrug!

I suspect that this depends on the road (and the analyst).