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Big Dave
31st May 2007, 09:06
<headline>Australia the lucky country, but not so peaceful</headline>

<byline>Louise Williams</byline>
<date>May 31, 2007</date>

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<!--articleExtras-wrap--> <bod> </bod>IF YOU are looking for peace, go to Norway or New Zealand. These two small nations topped the first Global Peace Index, a world study which ranked Australia the 25th most peaceful nation, but rated the US a dismal 93rd, well below China and its fellow nuclear powers Britain and France.
The Global Peace Index, commissioned by a Sydney information technology entrepreneur and philanthropist, Steve Killelea, found the citizens of small, affluent, educated and well-governed societies - which get on with the neighbours - have the best prospects for living in peace.
The world's markedly most peaceful region is Western Europe, largely due to the European Union, built out of the ashes of World War II to prevent a return to conflict. Asia ranks next most peaceful on average, with exceptions such as Burma, the Philippines and Thailand near the bottom of this year's rankings. The least peaceful places on earth are Iraq, Sudan and Israel.
The index, released overnight in London and endorsed by global peace advocates such as the Dalai Lama, will assess the state of world peace each year.
It is the first systematic measure of global peacefulness, rating internal harmony using criteria such as violent crime and loose weapons, jail populations, human rights, distrust of others and the deployment of armed police, plus external peace using indicators such as military budgets, weapons stockpiles, arms exports and involvement in external conflicts. The index seeks to turn conventional studies of war around. Instead of merely investigating the causes of conflict, it looks for key "drivers" of peace, in an attempt to produce useful models of peacefulness.
"For internal peace we found a strong correlation between low levels of corruption and high levels of peace, for example," said Robin Bew, editorial director of the Economist Intelligence Unit, which carried out the research. "It was also striking that the more people you have in school and the longer they stay there, the more likely a country is to enjoy peace."
Norway ranked first and New Zealand second because both use their small armed forces only in peacekeeping, enjoy respect for human rights, have few violent demonstrations, low crime rates and good relations with neighbouring nations. Australian and New Zealand integration was especially noted and Australia's internal indicators of peace were comparable with New Zealand's.
Australia's military role in Iraq, a negative score because it is not a United Nations-sanctioned operation, is almost wholly responsible for Australia's much lower ranking on the index.
Wealth, health, education and good environmental performance all correlated with peacefulness, yet the world's richest nation, the US, found itself right down the list, just ahead of Iran.
Mr Bew said the US ranking reflects the post-Cold War "Pax Americana"; with only one global superpower, the US in effect acts as a global policeman and has high levels of military expenditure and military engagement beyond it borders to match. Russia, its former Cold War foe, is fourth last, reflecting its huge armoury and bloody engagement in Chechnya.
Globally, wars and internal conflicts have fallen significantly since World War II and again over the past 25 years, despite the Iraq war. Yet new potential threats are emerging due to climate change and likely competition over dwindling natural resources and the increasing spread of small, powerful weapons.


And if anyone says different I'll ^*@#en smash 'em. - )&#@*s

peasea
31st May 2007, 14:16
Sounds like Steve K has been hanging out with the Greens. I've seen stat's that say Auckland is a more dangerous place be in at night than New York. I've never been to New York but I've been to downtown Auckland at night and it can get pretty ugly. Way too many drunks and punks and walking past a group of spaced out glue sniffers or P freaks certainly gets the attention of your sphincter.

Nup, can't see how we came in second, sorry.

Joni
31st May 2007, 14:30
My opinion is that this must have been decided by people who are looking in from the outside, at first glance NZ strikes you as amazingly peaceful! I remember when I came here the first time, I was bowled over...

Now that I have lived here for a few years, I dont see it that way anymore... I view NZers VERY differently than I first did when I came here, and the people are what make the country and the culture!

peasea
31st May 2007, 15:20
My opinion is that this must have been decided by people who are looking in from the outside, at first glance NZ strikes you as amazingly peaceful! I remember when I came here the first time, I was bowled over...

Now that I have lived here for a few years, I dont see it that way anymore... I view NZers VERY differently than I first did when I came here, and the people are what make the country and the culture!


That's what I was thinking, someone has taken a very brief glance at this place, checked out a few tourist brochures and spoken briefly to a pot-smoking tree-hugger. Don't get me wrong; I love this place, it's still a great country and I have no intention of leaving, but there are elements that need tidying up, which is probably the same wherever you go. Sure we don't have raging gunfights like they do in the US (not very often anyway) or bombs going off in trains/planes and automobiles but it's not all beer and skittles at street level, is it?

I think I'd get a bit of support when I say that if the damned judges dished out some harsher penalties certain groups or individuals (such as theives, vandals, bashers, home invaders, bail jumpers, re-offenders etc) would maybe get the message. Wet bus tickets (which is what many serious offenders get) are no deterrent.

Toaster
31st May 2007, 15:23
Sounds like Steve K has been hanging out with the Greens. I've seen stat's that say Auckland is a more dangerous place be in at night than New York. I've never been to New York but I've been to downtown Auckland at night and it can get pretty ugly. Way too many drunks and punks and walking past a group of spaced out glue sniffers or P freaks certainly gets the attention of your sphincter.

Nup, can't see how we came in second, sorry.

Yeah sorry about that dude.... I will give up my ugly drunken punk glue-sniffing P-smoking ways soon enough.

Toaster
31st May 2007, 15:24
My opinion is that this must have been decided by people who are looking in from the outside, at first glance NZ strikes you as amazingly peaceful! I remember when I came here the first time, I was bowled over...

Now that I have lived here for a few years, I dont see it that way anymore... I view NZers VERY differently than I first did when I came here, and the people are what make the country and the culture!

I have several friends from South Africa and Zimbabwe.... the violence over there makes NZ look like boy scouts on weekend camp.

Joni
31st May 2007, 15:29
I have several friends from South Africa and Zimbabwe.... the violence over there makes NZ look like boy scouts on weekend camp.Yup noone disagrees with that...

But that still does not make NZ number 2 in reality mate! However compared to what I know it's a walk in the park... the other night I walked home in the dark... thats just un heard of in SA :yes:

chris
31st May 2007, 15:40
But that still does not make NZ number 2 in reality

How do you know that? Have you conducted your own study perhaps?

Joni
31st May 2007, 16:08
How do you know that? Have you conducted your own study perhaps?No, but I thought we were stating our opinions here... obviously not Sherlock!

:spudwave:

chris
31st May 2007, 16:20
No, but I thought we were stating our opinions here... obviously not Sherlock!

:spudwave:

Maybe if you'd said it was your opinion, not reality :spudwhat:

yours
:sherlock:

Joni
31st May 2007, 16:21
:lol:

I forgot about the Sherlock smilie... I will call it chris from now on :yes:

chris
31st May 2007, 16:35
:lol:

I forgot about the Sherlock smilie... I will call it chris from now on :yes:

It's elementary.

James Deuce
31st May 2007, 16:41
Err, they're not just talking about local domestic violence, they're talking about countries that instigate and support warfare as a diplomatic and economic solution on an international and global scale.

Joni
31st May 2007, 16:41
Ahhh, thanks uncle Jim! :hug:

Makes sence tho... too busy fighting among themselves to even think of moving the aggression across borders. :innocent:

Big Dave
31st May 2007, 16:41
It's elementary.

Todd Watson :rofl:

James Deuce
31st May 2007, 16:46
Yup noone disagrees with that...

But that still does not make NZ number 2 in reality mate! However compared to what I know it's a walk in the park... the other night I walked home in the dark... thats just un heard of in SA :yes:

It's unheard of in Southampton, Cardiff, Glasgow (well maybe not - some of those Scots chicks are vicious), LA (because there's no footpaths), Chicago, blah, blah, blah. There are ghettos in most of those towns that are bigger then NZ cities in population.

I'm also not likely to be beaten up by a Policemen because I'm too drunk to walk straight. Like I saw two bobbies do to a bloke semi-concious next to an ATM machine in Leicester Square.

Toaster
31st May 2007, 17:54
No, but I thought we were stating our opinions here... obviously not Sherlock!

:spudwave:

Yeah, it seems a few members appear to think that opinions aren't appropriate in an open forum... just bizarre. The whole point of debate is to discuss differing points of view in an intelligent manner with the minimum amount of poo-flicking.

We'll just save up our hard boogers for them :gob:

Crisis management
31st May 2007, 17:58
Yeah, it seems a few members appear to think that opinions aren't appropriate in an open forum... just bizarre. The whole point of debate is to discuss differing points of view in an intelligent manner with the minimum amount of poo-flicking.

Yet another sign of the degeneration in the standards at KB, some bastard advocating tolerance and intelligent debate.

You're not in the police force any more sonny, it's a mans world out here. :dodge:

Toaster
31st May 2007, 18:00
Yet another sign of the degeneration in the standards at KB, some bastard advocating tolerance and intelligent debate.

You're not in the police force any more sonny, it's a mans world out here. :dodge:

So I better put the chicken back then.....

Mr. Peanut
31st May 2007, 18:19
Perhaps you should venture out of Auckland once and awhile. Most large Cities have some degree of crime.

I think you'll find that smaller New Zealand towns have virtually nil crime. If someone steals something, a friend of a friend's uncle knows the cunt who nicked it.

James Deuce
31st May 2007, 18:24
a friend of a friend's uncle knows the cunt who nicked it.

He's now helping drink the profits from the ill gotten gains.

Mr. Peanut
31st May 2007, 18:55
Nah, he's giving the young fella a clip round the ear, and you can expect it back tomorrow.

There's some good sorts down here.

peasea
31st May 2007, 19:16
It's unheard of in Southampton, Cardiff, Glasgow (well maybe not - some of those Scots chicks are vicious), LA (because there's no footpaths), Chicago, blah, blah, blah. There are ghettos in most of those towns that are bigger then NZ cities in population.

I'm also not likely to be beaten up by a Policemen because I'm too drunk to walk straight. Like I saw two bobbies do to a bloke semi-concious next to an ATM machine in Leicester Square.


I wouldn't count your chickens.


Chickens? Did I say chickens?