Evil motorcyclist threatens innocent crowd of violent protesters.

[James Deuce]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4079537a10.html

Sigh. Motorcyclist tries to go home from work and the "Good Guys" take a shot. Is that how we're supposed to read it?

[Mully]

I would have head-butted the motherfucker.

Bam! And down the loser goes.

[Skunk]

Relative and Muliaga family spokesperson Brenden Sheehan arrived at the protest later on and said a bank account was being set up for people who wanted to make donations to the family and a company had given them a casket for the body. WTF?! They're getting money and a casket because they did nothing to save her?

[The Pastor]

its the NZ way baby. Wheres my compo payout?

[kinger]

Probably the most pointless bit of reporting I've read in a long time.

[deanohit]

How fckn ridiculus.has anybody stopped to think that if they had payed the bill this wouldn't have happened.if they couldnt afford it,thats something they should have taken up with someone like winz.

[Curious_AJ]

Probably the most pointless bit of reporting I've read in a long time.

agreed......

[ajturbo]

How fckn ridiculus.has anybody stopped to think that if they had payed the bill this wouldn't have happened.if they couldnt afford it,thats something they should have taken up with someone like winz.
bingo.....

[The Pastor]

www.fark.com lots of pointless news :D

[Skunk]

bingo.....
Do you still play?

[Dave Lobster]

How fckn ridiculus.has anybody stopped to think that if they had payed the bill this wouldn't have happened.if they couldnt afford it,thats something they should have taken up with someone like winz.

Spending a little bit less on food would put them more than enough money in the kitty to pay the bills. They all looked as if they'd eaten all the pies!!

[Colapop]

I would have head-butted the motherfucker.

Bam! And down the loser goes.
And then next one that has a go at you? And then the next 20??? How to get a mob really pissed off at you....

[Mully]

And then next one that has a go at you? And then the next 20??? How to get a mob really pissed off at you....

I dunno. These are chicken shit hippies. I reckon you get one good and the rest will run like little sissy girls. At least long enough for you to ride away.

[Colapop]

I dunno. These are chicken shit hippies. I reckon you get one good and the rest will run like little sissy girls. At least long enough for you to ride away.
Hey you should try it... Just let me know beforehand... so I can watch..

I make no comment on how staunch you are or profess to be... just seen a bunch of wanky hippies get pretty wild before... it's all the skinhead infriltrators...

[Mully]

I make no comment on how staunch you are or profess to be... just seen a bunch of wanky hippies get pretty wild before... it's all the skinhead infriltrators...

I don't profess to be stauch (sorry if I did and sounded like Skidmark or Tom). I think it would be a reflex action for one of these unemployed (I can't picket people at 4pm on a weekday) fuckwits touching me.

As for the infiltrators, are these the ones being paid for by an SOE?? Heh.

[Drum]

That picture is priceless. 'Contract Killers'. Fark thats funny.

[Curious_AJ]

people call me hippie.. but you wouldnt find me protesting against that... its bad that it happened.. but really, they were probably capable of paying the bloody bills in the first place!! ..

they also should have stopped eating all the pies...

[Lias]

Seeing crowds of hippies protesting like that makes me want to go all Lipene Sila on them with a big truck.

Fucking commies the lot of em. WTB some McCarthyism in NZ...

[candor]

What got me going was the "family representative" turning up at the protest to explain their good fortune getting a free coffin and to pass the hat around.
Now I know whanau help one another but milking the protestors before they offer is ummm well..... I'll say no more. Poor lady but as a nurse I don't think the power cut killed her - and if not these hippys are excited over nothing, but they love it don't they!

[Big Dog]

If anything this should serve as a reminder that you have to pay your bills and if you can't but do depend on the service you are provided put your hand up before you can't.

Any company is at the end of the day there to make money. No profit = No investment. No investment = Less jobs and no power for anyone.
If she was a month overdue shame on the company.
If she was months overdue shame on her family.

[Brian d marge]

He revved his motorbike ... He was in the crowd revving his motorbike How much more anti social can you be ,, I mean poor Bertram , had to see the school nurse , and is terrified of loud vehicles now.
Its lucky we have Just bought a Landrover discovery with the optional leather seats and catalytic converter

I am shocked at the behavior of those people ,

Stephen

and a free coffin ,,, Mmmmm might try that one meself ,,those things are expensive ,,

[Hillbilly]

According to the Herald, they'd just made a payment, and the next one wasn't due until 13th June. The family also showed the contractor the machine as well as him speaking to the mother, and he turned off the power anyway. He didn't have the balls to call his superiors and advise them of the situation, and he also could have phoned and let the family explain what the situation was. The whole "I'm just doing my job" is a cop-out. The guy had no guts.

It's tragic that a misunderstanding about a power bill ended with someone's death. Get this right! This is the same attitude where the power company will turn off your grandparents/parents power during a freezing winter because they're behind with the bills. And they're "just doing their job".

[shcabbeh]

He didn't have the balls to call his superiors and advise them of the situation, and he also could have phoned and let the family explain what the situation was. The whole "I'm just doing my job" is a cop-out. The guy had no guts.

What would he have to be scared about from his superiors? I work in a callcenter and most of our "contractors" would rather ring than face the wrath of the customers. I highly doubt he would have any reason not to call if he was aware of the situation.

This is typical customer crap too, you can smell it. Their version of the story is only holding without evidence. Some people would and DO deny things even if they're presented with contrasting evidence. Anyone who works in customer service should know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, on topic...there's a pic of the tail end of the bike trying to be kicked by some fat guy (failing miserably). TOO FAT and TOO HIPPY.

Does anyone know who the biker was?

**edit** Oh and I can't help but read that sign as "Ram people before profit" but perhaps that's just me.

[MisterD]

Does anyone know who the biker was?



I'd say there's a fair bet LilSel does...

[James Deuce]

I've looked at the news reports, read the papers, looked at news web sites and based on having had someone at home for 4 months being fed through a tube and on a compressor for O2, just like this lady, I have some questions.

1. What was the family doing while she died?
2. Why didn't they call an Ambulance?
3. Or the GP?
4. Or even take her to hospital themselves?
5. Where were the portable bottles of O2 that get delivered by BOC within 25 minutes of you ringing and asking for them?
6. BOC can also provide a Generator if required.
7. You get given bottles of portable O2 if you have a compressor at home to help you breathe - why wasn't she attached to one of those while they sorted the power out?
8. How come no one has asked these questions?
9. Will someone at Mercury stand up and ask these questions?

This whole thing stinks. Typical Corporate beat up. It's sad that she died, but she didn't have to. It's bizarre that she did.

[Devil]

My biggest question is why is such an important electrical device supplied without a UPS. Would there be the same kerfuffle if there was an electrical storm? What about a car accident taking out a power pole?

Dont get me started on the family not calling an ambulance.

I think fuckups on all sides contributed to this death, not one singular thing.

Fucking protestors. Do they advertise at WINZ for these rent-a-crowds?

[Mully]

9. Will someone at Mercury stand up and ask these questions?

This whole thing stinks. Typical Corporate beat up.


Bingo, Jim.

And no, they wont ask. They are already being portrayed as the villians in this saga by the media. I've been very unimpressed with the Herald and Campbell Live about their attacks on Mercury and their gutter journalism.

Mercury give seven weeks notice of the power being cut off. Seven weeks. And the bill was considerably overdue.

I think not taking ownership is the NZ way. There has to be a corporate villian. There were at least (depending on what you read) two children in the house, over 20 years of age. When she said "Look after your brother", and her vision went hazy, why would you not call an ambulance?

FFS, it was 3 hours after the power was cut that she died. 3 fricken hours. There could easily have been a 3 hour power cut.

Our power got cut off in error and I rang the call centre and told them I was cutting the seal off the meter to turn back on, they were fine with it.

Yes, it's sad. But why is this only Mercury's fault??

[Drum]

The health authorities have also indicated that if her life depended on that machine then she would not have been sent home. It was to assist her breathing only.

If a few of those protesters ate less pies then they would be able to pay their bloody power bills.

What are the power supplliers supposed to do if people don't pay their bills? Keep supplying it for free? These protestors are living in LA LA land, and the current press is telling one side of the story only. Naturally this is the more sensational side of the story, the same side that sells papers.

[Drum]

9. Will someone at Mercury stand up and ask these questions?

It's not Mercury's role to ask those questions. All they need to ask is Were the corerct procedures and protocols followed? The last thing they need to get involved in is a moral debate.

[James Deuce]

My biggest question is why is such an important electrical device supplied without a UPS. Would there be the same kerfuffle if there was an electrical storm? What about a car accident taking out a power pole?



You don't need one. When you have a compressor in the house, they supply you a backup in the form of Oxygen cylinders. There was no need for her to die. The guy from Middlemore Hospital tried to point that out, but they cut the interview short.

[James Deuce]

It's not Mercury's role to ask those questions. All they need to ask is Were the corerct procedures and protocols followed? The last thing they need to get involved in is a moral debate.

I think they should in this instance, given the gravity of the accusations being leveled. It is an opportunity for a body corporate to show some commitment at something other than the shareholder level.

[Reckless]

I've looked at the news reports, read the papers, looked at news web sites and based on having had someone at home for 4 months being fed through a tube and on a compressor for O2, just like this lady, I have some questions.

1. What was the family doing while she died?
2. Why didn't they call an Ambulance?
3. Or the GP?
4. Or even take her to hospital themselves?
5. Where were the portable bottles of O2 that get delivered by BOC within 25 minutes of you ringing and asking for them?
6. BOC can also provide a Generator if required.
7. You get given bottles of portable O2 if you have a compressor at home to help you breathe - why wasn't she attached to one of those while they sorted the power out?
8. How come no one has asked these questions?
9. Will someone at Mercury stand up and ask these questions?

This whole thing stinks. Typical Corporate beat up. It's sad that she died, but she didn't have to. It's bizarre that she did.


Jim2, Didn't quite agree with you on the traffic light thread but give you 10 outa 10 on this one!!
If it was 3 hours after the power off that she died. The UPS, if there was one, may not have lasted that long. I also know the one on my computers screems its head off when the power goes down. With different, more urgent tones as it goes flat. And its only a cheapy.

Maybe their casual approach to the situation was the main contributer. But we can only speculate none of us really knows, do we!

How dare they kick a Honda rider:dodge:

[wybmadiity]

I would have head-butted the motherfucker.

Bam! And down the loser goes.

And then next one that has a go at you? And then the next 20??? How to get a mob really pissed off at you....
Not to mention the fact the bike would end up on the ground as well!!!


Bingo, Jim.

And no, they wont ask. They are already being portrayed as the villians in this saga by the media. I've been very unimpressed with the Herald and Campbell Live about their attacks on Mercury and their gutter journalism.

Mercury give seven weeks notice of the power being cut off. Seven weeks. And the bill was considerably overdue.

I think not taking ownership is the NZ way. There has to be a corporate villian. There were at least (depending on what you read) two children in the house, over 20 years of age. When she said "Look after your brother", and her vision went hazy, why would you not call an ambulance?

FFS, it was 3 hours after the power was cut that she died. 3 fricken hours. There could easily have been a 3 hour power cut.

Yes, it's sad. But why is this only Mercury's fault??
+1

[Devil]

You don't need one. When you have a compressor in the house, they supply you a backup in the form of Oxygen cylinders. There was no need for her to die. The guy from Middlemore Hospital tried to point that out, but they cut the interview short.

Didn't know that. That information just annoys me more. Arrest the children for a crime of stupidity.

[Fatjim]

I can't believe som many people actually read the papers these days. Dilbert is about the only thing true to life in there.

[candor]

Jim two, in reply to question eight, because then the manslaughter charges might fall closer to home.

On a young fellow without medical knowledge who obeyed his mothers command not to get help. She obviously did not expect to die. And as she deteriorated she was likely too confused from lack of oxygen to realise it was getting urgent. The family made the wrong call in not getting help - but it sounds to me like it came from the matriarch as if she paid the bills she prolly called the shots.

Mully - Campbell is imo always engaging in irresponsible unbalanced reporting to get mileage out of a story cos so litle actually happens here

[James Deuce]

There is a charge: Failing to provide the necessary care.

It's less than manslaughter, but this family needs a lesson.

We were "threatened" that if we didn't manage our son's care at home properly would we would be charged with that.

This family would have had the same talk when they were sent home with a compressor and O2 bottles.

[riffer]

Okay, my turn to bite.

The autopsy result has not been released.

Therefore any mention that the removal of power from the device which supplied oxygen to the unfortunate woman caused her death remains speculation.

I don't believe we yet have any proof other than what the family has said that the cause of death was conclusively lack of oxygen caused by removal of said breathing apparatus.

She was a big girl who'd suffered a terrible shock. She could just have easily have died from a heart attack caused by complications from hyperventilating because she thought she might die if they took her oxygen away.

... waiting for the official autopsy result before commenting further.

[James Deuce]

riffer, a compressor isn't life support. There was no need for her to die at home three hours after the power was turned off. Indeed if she was that big and showing signs of distress medical intervention should have been requested.

To blame the power company is utter bilge. What she died of isn't the issue. Blaming the power company and their proxy is not on and the Media and the PM should not be weighting the argument that way.

[riffer]

Yeah, I understand that mate.

I was just trying to talk about it in the same emotive terms that everyone else uses, as no-one seems to understand anything lately unless you sound like your freaking out... :mellow:

edit: saw your post was edited - I'll reply. I agree with you that what she died of ain't the issue. My point is, she was a sick lady. It could have been that the 'leccy withdrawal freaked her out. In that case it could have been anything that set it off - she was a timebomb.

[James Deuce]

ROFLMAO.

Yeah F__k you, you F__king Upper Huttian!

Like that? :lol:

[shcabbeh]

It's easier to point the finger at a big corporation than to take responsibility yourself. That and most people/media seem to love watching the underdog win. It makes people feel powerful and happy when they round their hippies up and win small victories against "The Man". I just think in this case it's irresponsible.

I don't quite understand what Helen Clark is doing, how can she comment on such a thing with so little information about it? It's almost as if she's trying to win the polls back by giving sympathy to a poor family in Mangere. How cliche.

[Drum]

I almost choked when I heard on the news that Helen had been around to see the family, and had ignored the Mercury Energy representatives because she 'has nothing to say to them'. Bloody amateur. Looks like another trial by media. There's a big surprise.

[MadDuck]

she was a timebomb.

Having been dragged up in the back streets of East and South Auckland ...if it were my mum needing power to live I would have found the cash. The Samoan community would have rallied around thats what their fancy churches are for afterall.

BTW there is a kinda cool photo of the bikers arse on NZ Herald website (a KBer no less). The Quasimoto logo is not quite clear but its there.:Punk:

Tomorrow will be another corporate to take the shit out of no doubt.

[Toaster]

bingo.....

Double bingo. I guess that family/bill-payer either never contemplated the power getting disconnected, or were purely reckless in their attitude towards paying for their power.

It's hard to say without the facts and there are many conflicting stories circulating. But I know if my life or a loved ones life depended on the power being on, I would be paying that bill by Direct Debit or even ahead of due date!

It's all about priorities - something that important deserved special attention by the family to ensure above all else that they had funds to ensure that bill kept being paid on time. And if anyone reading this thinks I don't understand financial hardship - be careful to judge before you know someone and where they are coming from. When times were very very hard, rent and bills came first, with me... food, clothing, fun, KFC... etc - last.

[Toaster]

I almost choked when I heard on the news that Helen had been around to see the family, and had ignored the Mercury Energy representatives because she 'has nothing to say to them'. Bloody amateur. Looks like another trial by media. There's a big surprise.

Yep, a Wallace shooting media trial all over again. It's only because she is slipping in the political polls. To heck with facts and reason... let media hype and emotion reign.

[MadDuck]

MY life is worth more than $160 bucks...dunno about the rest of you

[deanohit]

we have one of the compressors the same as the woman was on is in our house connected to my pop who has emphysemia.as soon as the power goes off,the compressor lets off an extremely loud buzzin that can be heard throughout the house.one person is always in the house who then knows to get inside an hook him up to the supplied o2 bottles.