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gav
13th September 2004, 17:07
Anyone watch Top Gear last night? Shit this looks like a blast
Carver - yeehaa (http://www.carver.nl)

Hitcher
13th September 2004, 17:10
I saw this last night. Top Gear is a "must watch" of a Sunday evening. I liked the part when Jeremy hopped in the back seat!

Motu
13th September 2004, 17:29
Like a 3 wheel delivery bike - wiv a bit more power.Rear wheel traction is great,totaly planted...but it looks like these things get into a bit of understeer,try that on yer bike!

marty
13th September 2004, 17:31
we've had this 'is it a bike or car' discussion. what was the outcome of that one? i can't remember

StoneChucker
13th September 2004, 17:36
Yeah, I saw it last night. I make a point of watching Top Gear every Sun. If you didn't already know, there is a new series starting soon, I THINK Sep 25th!

My only problem is that in the past I've heard Jeremy going on about how much he hates motorbikes, and yet he loves the motion of the Carver, which is obviously trying to emulate the cornering of a motorbike. Still looks like fun though, I'd definitely have a go, given the opportunity.

Hehe, I'm glad the other presenter made reference to the superior performance of motorbikes, when compared with the carver (and all other cars).

Slightly :Offtopic: but, did anyone watch the Monte Carlo Grand Prix last night? Before the race, they had the F1 car and a normal BMW perform a head to head braking test. I really like those sort of tests. Anyone know of a place I can find more of the same? Say, a sports bike VS F1 car around the track? Had to go to bed shortly after the start, but good job Schummie on coming second (from falling back to 15th after a spin). That guy is a machine, so precise!

Dave.

FROSTY
13th September 2004, 17:36
That looks like a shit load of fun no matter what theyre called :whistle:

Blakamin
13th September 2004, 17:36
I saw it... and i want one! :laugh:


And Jeremy only hates bike coz he rode a monster and it scared the shite out of him with the acceleration!

Blackbird
13th September 2004, 17:44
Most of the UK bikers hate Jeremy and you'll hardly find a good word about him on the UK Blackbird site. I reckon they're thin-skinned though as he just likes being outrageous - pure entertainment, that's all. My wife reckons that it's the best programme on TV. She laughed until she cried when they destroyed the Datsun Sunny and caravan with the blast from the jet-engined drag car a few months ago:first:

By the way, both of his side kicks ride bikes.

Geoff

StoneChucker
13th September 2004, 17:49
They had Neil Morrissey on recently, and he is into bikes aswell. I reckon he'd be a laugh to ride with :mobile:

Blakamin
13th September 2004, 17:52
They had Neil Morrissey on recently, and he is into bikes aswell. I reckon he'd be a laugh to ride with :mobile:
I reckon! he was hilarious... thats when Jeremy admitted he was scared of Monsters!

wkid_one
13th September 2004, 18:48
Try watching BBC on Mondays at 7.30 if you want the current series and not ones old as hell.

I posted the pic on the Carver about 6 months ago

merv
13th September 2004, 19:06
Yeah I saw this last time round so had the TV on mute while it was on last night so I could talk on the phone but just keep an eye on it. Still looked cool all the same, but my garage isn't big enough for one of those plus the vehicles it already has in it.

Racey Rider
13th September 2004, 19:13
I posted the pic on the Carver about 6 months ago
Yer but,
some of us don't read your posts Wkid! :kick:

Milky
13th September 2004, 19:21
Yeah I saw this last time round so had the TV on mute while it was on last night so I could talk on the phone but just keep an eye on it. Still looked cool all the same, but my garage isn't big enough for one of those plus the vehicles it already has in it.
might have to sell some of the vehicles you have there to fit it in, both space-wise and budget-wise... I seem to remember from watching that program months ago they were thinking of 60K for one :eek: Cant remember if that is pound, euro or NZ dollars. In any case, it is a fair bit of dosh...

sAsLEX
13th September 2004, 19:48
Slightly :Offtopic: but, did anyone watch the Monte Carlo Grand Prix last night? Before the race, they had the F1 car and a normal BMW perform a head to head braking test. I really like those sort of tests. Anyone know of a place I can find more of the same? Say, a sports bike VS F1 car around the track?
Dave.


Got one of a porsche vs R1 or something, no net at home for a few weeks but once I do I will give you a link, or ask K14 he should have a copy

Lou Girardin
13th September 2004, 20:06
Not to mention Jodie Kidd cleaning up the boys in the Liana. I bet there was instant erectile disfunction among Jeremy, JK, et al. Tall, gorgeous, Pommie models rock!

merv
13th September 2004, 20:11
might have to sell some of the vehicles you have there to fit it in, both space-wise and budget-wise... I seem to remember from watching that program months ago they were thinking of 60K for one :eek: Cant remember if that is pound, euro or NZ dollars. In any case, it is a fair bit of dosh...

Its a pommy show so whatever he said it would be pommy quid.

merv
13th September 2004, 20:12
Not to mention Jodie Kidd cleaning up the boys in the Liana. I bet there was instant erectile disfunction among Jeremy, JK, et al. Tall, gorgeous, Pommie models rock!

Yeah she was one cool chick in that car.

Jackrat
13th September 2004, 20:13
What a peice of shit.
might make a good Bon fire if you could be bothered wasting a match an a gallon of gas.
A bike for transexual car drivers :killingme

Devil
14th September 2004, 08:53
Yeah I wish they'd catch up with the current series, ive already seen most of the next series :/
Wait till Jeremy wets himself over the Ford GT. Yum.

Deano
14th September 2004, 09:31
I have to battle with the missus to watch any programmes about cars or bikes, including most motorsport. Yet she thinks nothing of putting me through an hour of aussie soap crap. Then if I jump on the puter to get away, she accuses me of not spending enough time with her. :brick:

I reckon Jeremy (and sidekicks) are hilarious. Watched them last night with the Corvette. Methinks jeremy does not like american cars much.

vifferman
14th September 2004, 09:48
Slightly :Offtopic: but, did anyone watch the Monte Carlo Grand Prix last night? Before the race, they had the F1 car and a normal BMW perform a head to head braking test. I really like those sort of tests. Anyone know of a place I can find more of the same? Say, a sports bike VS F1 car around the track? I'll dig out one for you I read recently of several fast cars versus a couple of fast bikes, where they used Aaron Slight as one of the test riders.
It's not F1, but still interesting. For what it's worth, the F1 cars hold the lap records at most tracks, so a comparison would be a bit of a let-down.
I'd imagine their power/weight ratios aren't much different to the bikes, but they have a lot more traction, so achiever higher cornering speeds and short braking distances.

riffer
14th September 2004, 09:57
At Catalunya:

Michael Schumacher - 1:14.670
Sete Gibernau - 1:42.596

No comparison. The F1 cars accelerate as fast as the MotoGP bikes, but can outbrake and outcorner the bikes.

k14
14th September 2004, 10:04
Yeah I think i read somewhere that at the end of the main straight the f1 cars brake at the 50m mark but the gp bikes brake at the 200m mark, or something like that.

I wouldnt be surprised if the f1 cars actually accelerated faster aswell, cause they have alot more traction.

vifferman
14th September 2004, 10:05
I'll dig out one for you I read recently of several fast cars versus a couple of fast bikes, where they used Aaron Slight as one of the test riders.Here ya go:
http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/media/fastfeud/index.php

If you want more, try googling with summat like I did; I put this in the search box:
"which is faster" car bike

riffer
14th September 2004, 10:18
However, having said that, check out this video for what happens if you have a course with long straights.

R7 vs F1 car:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.sykes80/getaway_moto_contre_F1.asf

NB if you have trouble with XP SP2 not verifying the codec (damn security settings!) here's the codec.

http://www.keystonelearning.com/company/support/files/Codec/codecpatch1.0.zip

riffer
14th September 2004, 10:19
Here ya go:
http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/media/fastfeud/index.php

If you want more, try googling with summat like I did; I put this in the search box:
"which is faster" car bike
Hmmm. Does the radical count as a car, or a four-wheeled Huyabusa? :msn-wink:

Hitcher
14th September 2004, 10:28
Irrespective of which is faster, these comparisons always overlook the "experience" aspect, the thrill of being there. Going for a ride on a bike is a vastly superior experience than going for a drive in a car. Slam dunk.

Blakamin
14th September 2004, 10:39
However, having said that, check out this video for what happens if you have a course with long straights.

R7 vs F1 car:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.sykes80/getaway_moto_contre_F1.asf



And a bike with mirrors at that!

MrMelon
14th September 2004, 13:48
Bring back Tiff!
I spent a good part of yesterday morning watching a bunch of old top gear episodes, and he just cracks me up every time.

pete376403
14th September 2004, 20:42
Its a pommy show so whatever he said it would be pommy quid.

IIRC he was talking around mid 20K pounds. He did note it was expensive. Looks a hoot, though.