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sAsLEX
14th September 2004, 11:13
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the cunt down and beat them stupid. :finger:

more pictures here http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/

vifferman
14th September 2004, 11:18
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the cunt down and beat them stupid. :finger:

pictures here http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/Man, that really sucks!:mad:
Hope it turns up OK. Keep us informed, sAsLEX.

duckman
14th September 2004, 11:23
I'll keep an eye out for ya bike as I'm just up the road!!!

dhunt
14th September 2004, 11:24
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the cunt down and beat them stupid. :finger:

pictures here http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/
Man that's gutting!!! Feel for you. Hopefully you can get something sorted out.

David

Zed
14th September 2004, 11:26
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the c*** down and beat them stupid. Hey, I might be in a car shortly? Alex, have I your permission to actually run this vagrant off your bike even if it means writing it off in the process?? :ride: :shit:


I'm sorry to hear it btw and hope it is recovered asap.


Zed

Mongoose
14th September 2004, 11:26
WOW, what a ' orrible gut dropping(NO not farting) feeling that must be! Sorry to hear and hope one of the KBers from up there gets to help recover it

Blakamin
14th September 2004, 11:33
Sorry to hear that... hope it turns up and the fuckers get whats coming to them :2guns:

erik
14th September 2004, 11:36
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the cunt down and beat them stupid. :finger:

pictures here http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/


Aw man, sorry to hear that. I'll keep an eye out for it.

Was it insured?

jrandom
14th September 2004, 11:42
That's awful.

If I see it I'll be sure to scrag the fecker.

Insurance?

Cajun
14th September 2004, 11:48
thats a bugger sAsLEX

Antallica
14th September 2004, 11:52
Shit! I love that bike too!

Hope you find her in one piece.

k14
14th September 2004, 11:57
Man that sucks so badly, hope they catch the bastards.

Yes, he does have insurance. He just told me he's down at the cop shop reporting it now.

Here is the pic:
http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/IMG_0124a.jpg

k14
14th September 2004, 12:03
Hey, I might be in a car shortly? Alex, have I your permission to actually run this vagrant off your bike even if it means writing it off in the process?? :ride: :shit:Zed

On his behalf i will give you and anyone else his permission to use whatever means necessary to bring the creton to justice :niceone:

riffer
14th September 2004, 12:09
Bad luck sAsLEX,

hope you get the bike back unscathed, AND the opportunity to vent a bit on the lowlife that took it. :wacko:

I'll keep an eye out for it down here.

I've never had a bike stolen - only musical gear - but I can imagine how you feel.

I'll be wishing karmic retribution on the possessor of your bike. With any luck they'll lowside it, leaving the bike unscratched and put themselve in the hospital for a while. Now what's the most painful injury we could wish on them ...

Quasievil
14th September 2004, 12:13
Well he better not be heading to Hamilton as I have a car which aint mine and I always wondered what it would be like hitting a bike from a drivers perspective.

I will be having one eye wide open for it I assure you and the prick better know how to ride better than I can drive..... I drive pretty damn good :stoogie:

Posh Tourer :P
14th September 2004, 12:29
Now what's the most painful injury we could wish on them ...

Broken ankle and foot?

Saslex, are you sure you didnt park it somewhere else this morning??

It had to be asked...

Firefight
14th September 2004, 12:32
Fuck Bad news Alex, will print off some copies @ work 2morow and circulate them around down our way, call me on my celly if you find the scrot who pinched it.

F/F

Motu
14th September 2004, 12:45
That sucks man - I'll keep my eyes open.I've waved the picture in front of the Pajero,it's imprinted....once we're locked on it's a done deal....

Hitcher
14th September 2004, 12:50
Hey, I might be in a car shortly? Alex, have I your permission to actually run this vagrant off your bike even if it means writing it off in the process??
I'm curious now as to which commandment sanctions such behaviour?

Devil
14th September 2004, 12:52
I'm curious now as to which commandment sanctions such behaviour?
The 64th.
"Thou shiznot fuck with another homies shiznit, yo. Pullup knife 'pon yo face, tax you fo' real"

riffer
14th September 2004, 13:44
Broken ankle and foot?
I was thinking more along the lines of a perforated rectum via an exhaust pipe (non-sharp end)...

ching_ching
14th September 2004, 13:54
Such irrepressible behaviour. Makes you think Osama Bin Laden stole it.

Anyhoo, picture and number plate noted and will keep an eye out down these ways just in case this rapscallion likes to tour on sportsbikes.

ching

racer96
14th September 2004, 14:04
mate, that is one beautiful bike. I unfortunely don't anything about your bike, but really hope u get that back. bad times if thats gone. Some little dip shit prick.

slob
14th September 2004, 14:08
That sucks man! In broad daylight too! Didn't the bike have a handlebar lock built in? Were there other bikes around it?

Assuming it doesn't end up at some wrecker's yard, you might want to keep an eye on trademe.co.nz and the trade & exchange.

TwoSeven
14th September 2004, 14:28
Just make sure you get the number plate correct. A few of us have the same color scheme. Dont want to be run over by a nutter in a car for no reason at all :)

toads
14th September 2004, 14:31
this is terrible, I hope your bike will be recovered ok, and yes I think the bastard should be run down and beaten up, but not while seated on your bike! Man Auckland must really suck!,

vifferman
14th September 2004, 14:41
That sucks man! In broad daylight too! Didn't the bike have a handlebar lock built in? Those are only for deterring honest people from accidental acts of thievery.

aff-man
14th September 2004, 15:25
I'll keep an eye out. got same mates at auckers that i'll ask to keep an eye out as well and "detain" the person who stole it. P.s. what do you want done to this creton and make sure you tell us if it's found. Don't want to hatchet the wrong fella aye. :eek:

jrandom
14th September 2004, 15:31
I'm sorry.

I have to do this.

It's 'cretin', OK?

As opposed, to, say, Cretans. Who, Epimenides tells us, are always liars.

We should take him at his word, I suppose.

duckman
14th September 2004, 15:32
Has anyone sent this info out to the bike shops ??

Perhaps the little shite will try to flog it off before it's reported stolen....

Hmmmm "flog it off" just doesn't seem appropriate these days ... :killingme

aff-man
14th September 2004, 15:34
i was probably thinking of cruton you know the little floating bread/biscuit things in your soup :bleh:

jrandom
14th September 2004, 15:35
i was probably thinking of cruton you know the little floating bread/biscuit things in your soup :bleh:

Hmmm.

No, that would be 'crouton'.

Andrew
14th September 2004, 15:36
Dude thats not cool.

Did it happen that morning I rode with you part of the way to uni?

Hope all works out for the best.

k14
14th September 2004, 15:45
Dude thats not cool.

Did it happen that morning I rode with you part of the way to uni?

Hope all works out for the best.

Well if "that morning" was this morning then yes. It only happened this morning.

Last I heard he was headed to the pub, and I quote "The cause and solution of all problems" :killingme

James Deuce
14th September 2004, 15:48
That sucks big time!

Really sorry to hear that. I hope the low life is found before anything happens to your pride and joy.

Andrew
14th September 2004, 15:50
Well if "that morning" was this morning then yes. It only happened this morning.

Last I heard he was headed to the pub, and I quote "The cause and solution of all problems" :killingme

My mistake, was yesterday.

Paul in NZ
14th September 2004, 16:37
Mate!

That sucks BIG time... I friggin HATE bike theives!! Stealin' my car is bad but not my bikes!!!

Something that can work! Next weekend, place an add in the local paper wanting to buy a few parts for an identical model. If someone replies, turn up, cool as a cucumber and haggle on the prices. If it is your bike, tell them you will go to get some cash and ring da cops.

Cheers

Ms Piggy
14th September 2004, 17:09
That's terrible!! :mad: Let's hope they just wanted it for a joy ride cos it's such a nice looking bike! Hope the outcome is good!

kneescraper
14th September 2004, 17:19
Oh gezzz man I'm so sorry to hear such bad news. The thing that really sucks is that the person or peoples that stole the bike will prob just thrash it and then dump it some where. We work hard to buy our bikes and theives just take em!!!!!!!

Best of luck finding the bike in one piece and also finding the dorks that stole it. :2guns: :bash:

White trash
14th September 2004, 17:20
Good to see ya back, Kneescraper.

How's the racing coming along?

keza
14th September 2004, 17:38
Sorry to hear i am out and about will keep an eye out and if i see the scumbag i shell see if 25tonne of truck hurts

Bandito
14th September 2004, 17:55
sorry to hear about your bike mate,but maybe you should publish the frame and engine no's on KB after all the NZ motorcycle community is pretty small and member no's on this site are getting pretty big-and if you did have some joy in finding out who the offending scrote is you could then publish the assholes name and adress on KB.........

kneescraper
14th September 2004, 17:57
Hey White Trash (man I sounded racist),

Well the racing never took off sadly, I had to sink my $$$ into more important things (a baby boy). But now my wallet is starting to look happy again I think I might get into XR50 stunnin, looks cool!!!!!! and is cheaper too.

Any news on the bike and if it has been found?

DEATH_INC.
14th September 2004, 18:09
That sucks !!!!If I see the f****r he won't get away,especially if I'm in my 4WD....
Keep yer eyes peeled around town,my mate had his bike stolen from custom street,and the arsehole stacked it a couple of months later...just up the road in the city!
If you find out where it is give us a call :ar15: :2guns: :bash:

Steen
14th September 2004, 18:20
Alex your bike was mint one of the best looking cbrs around I will be looking for any sign... I had a car.... well a mini...stolen from high st remember standing there keys in my hand took a few moments to register..... on the bright side whats next cbr 4 6 9 1000 ?

Her_C4
14th September 2004, 18:33
Sorry to hear that... hope it turns up and the fuckers get whats coming to them :2guns:

Ditto !!! :mad:

That really sux - nice lookin' bike too :msn-wink:

superdude
14th September 2004, 18:59
People who steal anything should b shot, sorry to hear that hope it turns up for ya.

Blakamin
14th September 2004, 19:16
Mate!

That sucks BIG time... I friggin HATE bike theives!! Stealin' my car is bad but not my bikes!!!

Cheers
The fuckers can have the car...touch my bike tho :angry2:

btw... new CBR250 on trade me today... no photos... worth a squizz!

kneescraper
14th September 2004, 19:37
Man they would be stupid to sell on Trademe the day after they brought the bike!!!!. Maybe if they find the person that stole the bike it may lead to the gang of people stealing bikes. Never know crazier things have happened!

Kwaka-Kid
14th September 2004, 20:42
hey sorry to hear mate! will keep an eye out and pass more word around.

6Chris6
14th September 2004, 20:52
Shit news, Alex

Any distinquishing marks or anything. I dare say it won't be sporting your number plate.
Good luck
Chris

k14
14th September 2004, 20:55
One distinguishing mark is a small dent on the right side of the fuel tank just above where your knees go. It was there when he got it, probably from a metal object falling on it. Not sure of any other distinguishing marks. Think it has done around 24000kms or so.

aff-man
14th September 2004, 20:58
talk to the local bike shops as well he might try pull a quicky with one of them

jazbug5
14th September 2004, 21:11
Shite!

Nothing to add but my sympathy; hope the disgusting bastard gets what he deserves... fingers crossed he doesn't get away with it, one way or another...

jazbug5
14th September 2004, 21:12
(BTW have any of you techie people ever considered setting up your bike to give electric shocks to thieving bastards..? We could set up decoys all over New Zealand... just think! Saw a great skit on TV in the UK where they set up a car as a decoy for thieves: it then locked them in and forced them to listen to Barry Manilow at top volume... then squirted 'em with suspicious white goo..)

toads
14th September 2004, 21:21
(BTW have any of you techie people ever considered setting up your bike to give electric shocks to thieving bastards..? We could set up decoys all over New Zealand... just think! Saw a great skit on TV in the UK where they set up a car as a decoy for thieves: it then locked them in and forced them to listen to Barry Manilow at top volume... then squirted 'em with suspicious white goo..)

the mind boggles, torture indeed, although a little more blood letting would not go amiss in the case of whoever stole this bike. I'd like to have a pet lion to tether to my bike. LOL

kneescraper
14th September 2004, 21:26
Do motorcycle alarms really work or are they easy to get at and tamper with. Do many KBers have alarms on their bikes, I'm thinking of buying one and doing a self install (father has eletronic buiness so I have access to that gear) but only want to spend the money if they are worth it and not a pain in the behind. It would seem easy to set off the alarm, even if a cat jumped on it and that would suck!!

maybe
14th September 2004, 21:29
Ass hole if caught hang drawn and quartered, man some people are just ass holes. :mad: :mad:

Skyryder
14th September 2004, 21:33
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the cunt down and beat them stupid. :finger:

more pictures here http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/

I'll do more than that. Like shove a stake up his arse and use his balls as a sliingshot.

Hope you get the bike back intact. I had my Honda 250 stolen a few years ago and got it back with little damage so there is hope.

Skyryder

Indiana_Jones
14th September 2004, 21:45
not cool
When he's caught.......

-Indy

Wenier
14th September 2004, 22:02
i wouldnt mind some kind of tracker set to a silent alarm (like a transponder thats in planes) and that way when its set off you could track it.

k14
14th September 2004, 22:06
Just get gps tracking. Not too expensive i think, not quite sure on the price though. Probably not worth it for a $5000 bike though.

loosebruce
14th September 2004, 22:43
Ah shit man that sucks, if i see the wee f#$& you can rest assured he's going down, TL's are good for mowing things down, especially scum!

Mr Skid
14th September 2004, 23:10
Hey sAsLEX, sorry to hear about these bastards. The best I can really offer is to beat them with my cast if I saw them around.

I hear there are quite a few bikes go walk about around uni, did you have a lock on it? I've got a big mutha of a chain lives under my seat, and park next to a nicer looking bike that doesn't get it steering locked. No problems yet, but I am thinking about buying one of the oxford brute force anchors and sinking it into the asphalt at uni.

Hopefully you'll get her back soon, might be worthwhile banging an anchor in on Symonds Street for ya to lock it to..

Mr Skid
14th September 2004, 23:16
(BTW have any of you techie people ever considered setting up your bike to give electric shocks to thieving bastards..? We could set up decoys all over New Zealand... just think! Saw a great skit on TV in the UK where they set up a car as a decoy for thieves: it then locked them in and forced them to listen to Barry Manilow at top volume... then squirted 'em with suspicious white goo..)

I did look into electrifying the bike, as I've got a friend that works with electric fence energisers. Problems include getting an offender to touch two metalic parts of the bike at once, plus you'd likely fry your CDI, as well as anybody who might happen to brush past your bike.

What would probably be fun would be a mechanism that'd high side a thief the first time they leant the bike over :bash:

ching_ching
15th September 2004, 08:14
...and forced them to listen to Barry Manilow at top volume... then squirted 'em with suspicious white goo..)

hahahahaha!! Sorry, really hope to hell you get your bike back... but fuck that's funny, hahahahaha!!

AMPS
15th September 2004, 09:20
Just get gps tracking. Not too expensive i think, not quite sure on the price though. Probably not worth it for a $5000 bike though.

Bikes are too easy to throw in an enclosed metal bodied vehicle = no GPS signal.
That's how a few GPS equipped cars have gone walkabout, put into containers.
Hopefully, the system manufacturers will come up with a counter, counter - measure soon.
Lou

Shade
15th September 2004, 09:32
For the record, I have the same coloured bike up in auckland, so make sure you guys look twice before running me off the road! :sweatdrop

Will keep an eye out Alex!

jrandom
15th September 2004, 09:53
Hopefully, the system manufacturers will come up with a counter, counter - measure soon.

Getting a position fix inside a panel van might be possible if one used a very very highly sensitive GPS receiver. But it'd be a bit on the difficult side of not-very-likely.

One's hope would generally be that the system would get a view of the sky at some point later on, generating an alert so that you could head round with a baseball bat, etc.

sAsLEX
15th September 2004, 09:54
Also has a Radar detector mount inside the right hand mirror, was a custom build by me, so would be easy to recognise for those that have seen it before.

Cheers for the support guys, have thought that I must now get my XR250 going again and make it road legal!

sAsLEX
15th September 2004, 10:27
and the new brake pads have just turned up in the mail, how cool :niceone:

Zed
15th September 2004, 10:50
and the new brake pads have just turned up in the mail, how cool :niceone:That is exactly what happened to a guy at work 6 weeks ago. He binned his bike and flew over a 'moving bonnet' on his way to work which completely ruined his Monday! Couple of days later his pads turn up at work on the courier...he had a moment:crybaby: He sent them back though and got a credit from the supplier.

This same guy also got his Gixxer stolen like you, but it was found adandoned alongside some house on the local beach. Just joyriders we thought. There is still a chance you'll get it back, hopefully unharmed!


Zed

The One
15th September 2004, 14:20
My bike has gone missing outside Engineering on Symonds st between 1000 and 1100.

Red and black CBR250RR reg 25WEK any seeings run the cunt down and beat them stupid. :finger:

more pictures here http://www.saslex.orcon.net.nz/


Maybe you should just look after your bike a bit better, and the thing wouldn't have gone missing. You sure you didn't misplace it???

Cheers.

Kwaka-Kid
15th September 2004, 14:25
The One you joking hey?
good...

Anyway saslex all the best on finding it, have told everybody i can that could help so hopefully it will turn up - and to the other like 10 riders on here with the same colour paintjob ride legally and expect to be picked up as hopefully the spread is getting wider as to who knows what to pull over.

sAsLEX
15th September 2004, 15:29
VIN/CHASSIS 7A88G0G1103005735

a bit more info if you see any for sale.

duckman
15th September 2004, 15:50
Hey just saw a bike JUST like yours heading down symonds st !!!

k14
15th September 2004, 15:54
Did you get the rego?

duckman
15th September 2004, 15:57
Nahhhh - It was side on my building unfortunately. F*ck all chance that it is Alex's bike .... but, you never know. :angry:

Gasman
15th September 2004, 15:58
:puke: Seriously bad news man. I hope the bastard finds out what a lousy rider he/she is, and soon! Was it locked up with a anti theft gizmo? If so, I won't buy that one. I hope that report of it being seen in Symonds St leads somewhere.

Best of luck.

k14
15th September 2004, 16:00
Yeah the person would have to be pretty thick to ride it in the vicinity it was stolen from a day later. But who knows, the person is a bike thief after all.

magnum
15th September 2004, 21:56
sorry for your loss,no insurance?either way fuck and bugger.

SPORK
15th September 2004, 22:38
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/madcat_/CBR250Macked.jpg

Thought that some boy racer dumbass might of got hold of it and 'pimped' it :moon: I know it sucks, but it only took 10 minutes :whocares:

I have too much time on my hands

k14
15th September 2004, 23:02
ROFLMAO, that is brillant madcat. Well atleast if you had that color scheme it definately would never get stolen.

toads
16th September 2004, 08:12
have you heard anything yet?, I am wondering if putting up flyers around campus mighn't be a bad idea, it could well have been another student, and someone has to have seen something.

SPORK
16th September 2004, 08:54
ROFLMAO, that is brillant madcat. Well atleast if you had that color scheme it definately would never get stolen.
You implying something!? Hahah, my favourite bit is the purple upholstery, the neons aren't too bad as well!

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 09:32
You implying something!? Hahah, my favourite bit is the purple upholstery, the neons aren't too bad as well!
I reckon it looks excellent!!! wanna "paint" mine??? steal it off my profile!


i know you didnt use "paint", just for the record :msn-wink:

SPORK
16th September 2004, 10:04
I reckon it looks excellent!!! wanna "paint" mine??? steal it off my profile!


i know you didnt use "paint", just for the record :msn-wink:

No problem! How would you like it done? I'm home sick from school today, so I don't have a lot to do :mellow:

I'm sure I could make it look more racer-y though! Just tell me how you'd like it! Anyone else that wants a custom 'paintjob' just say so!

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 10:34
No problem! How would you like it done? I'm home sick from school today, so I don't have a lot to do :mellow:

I'm sure I could make it look more racer-y though! Just tell me how you'd like it! Anyone else that wants a custom 'paintjob' just say so!

just come up with something.... not fussed... racer-y sounds good!

SPORK
16th September 2004, 10:35
Here you go! Sorry about the purple leather, I couldn't help myself :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/madcat_/Bikecopy.jpg

:blah:

May be stupid, but hey!

FROSTY
16th September 2004, 10:37
hey madcat how about a new paint job for my 750 -Ill piss WT off and do it yellow.

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 10:41
Here you go! Sorry about the purple leather, I couldn't help myself :eek:


:blah:

May be stupid, but hey!

That looks good... cept the frame... whats it look like in silver??

SPORK
16th September 2004, 10:53
hey madcat how about a new paint job for my 750 -Ill piss WT off and do it yellow.

Sure, just post up a good pic. The one on your profile wouldn't be very good fro photoshopping.



That looks good... cept the frame... whats it look like in silver??

You mean stock? I did all that photoshopping and you want it STOCK?!? :msn-wink:

No problem. Do you want it any specific colours for the rest? It's a bit hard to guess :spudwave:

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 10:58
Sure, just post up a good pic. The one on your profile wouldn't be very good fro photoshopping.



You mean stock? I did all that photoshopping and you want it STOCK?!? :msn-wink:

No problem. Do you want it any specific colours for the rest? It's a bit hard to guess :spudwave:
that blue looks good...

SPORK
16th September 2004, 11:15
Yep! Re-doing it right now. Silver frames, deep blue fairings... Seat colour? Still want purple? :msn-wink:

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 11:18
Yep! Re-doing it right now. Silver frames, deep blue fairings... Seat colour? Still want purple? :msn-wink:

umm.. i think black might do me, but thanks for the thought :msn-wink:

riffer
16th September 2004, 11:21
hey madcat how about a new paint job for my 750 -Ill piss WT off and do it yellow.
Here's a rough quicky.

riffer
16th September 2004, 11:34
On second thoughts, prefer to keep the blue...

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 11:38
On second thoughts, prefer to keep the blue...
Workin hard today then? :msn-wink:

SPORK
16th September 2004, 11:46
very nice! here's another from me, complete to Blakamin's standards. No purple?!! Every pimp-mobile has purple seats! Oh well, black it is! :moon:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/madcat_/blakaminsbike.jpg
Couldn't I persuade you to have a gold chassis? Oh well, your bike!

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 11:52
very nice! here's another from me, complete to Blakamin's standards. No purple?!! Every pimp-mobile has purple seats! Oh well, black it is! :moon:
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Couldn't I persuade you to have a gold chassis? Oh well, your bike!
you can persuade me now, that looks cool... might have to paint it.. cheers

now do what ya like!

riffer
16th September 2004, 11:55
you can persuade me now, that looks cool... might have to paint it.. cheers

now do what ya like!
How about VFR red!!!

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 11:59
How about VFR red!!!
ooooh.... thats nice tooo :eek:

SPORK
16th September 2004, 11:59
now do what ya like!
You have no Idea what you just unleashed! :gob-smacked:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/madcat_/blakaminsbike2.jpg
How about this? I really like the silvery speed paint whatsamajig things. I bet that if you got a new paint job like this your bike would go 10-20kmph faster!

SPORK
16th September 2004, 12:04
I feel bad about high-jacking this thread, perhaps we should start up a "Photoshop your Bike" thread? celticno6, what do you think?

Blakamin
16th September 2004, 12:09
I feel bad about high-jacking this thread, perhaps we should start up a "Photoshop your Bike" thread? celticno6, what do you think?
good point.... make sure you stick your work so far in there tho!

SPORK
16th September 2004, 12:42
good point.... make sure you stick your work so far in there tho!

Have done! Hopefully now the thread can go back on it's origional course