Leatt neck brace

[umka]

anyone have one or have any oppinions on them? is there any protection differance between the models or is it just the weight/materials?

i am thinking of getting one from the states as it is so much cheaper than local.

[scott411]

they are pretty good, the only difference is materail and weight, the lighter the dearer.

no shops will ship them direct out fo the states, they are not allowed to

[umka]

hey scott are you sure they wont ship? is this just for the leatt brace coz i got my asterisk knees like that for like $400 less than in NZ. the leatt club version is like NZ$1100 in NZ or US$395 from US thats less than half price which in my opinion is rubbish especially when it comes to safty gear that they want to mark stuff up like that and make it unobtainable for most of the riding community.

[jimmy 2006]

very easy to get around the issue of shipping it over here. talk to any freight company out at the airport, for example DHL (this is who i used last time). you then get their address in the states. when you order it through the shop in the US you specify the freight companies US address. they then forward it through to NZ. (i hope this makes sense)

[NZsarge]

Are these just for off road use? by the way I see Dainese and KTM are also making neck braces too.

[umka]

ktm's brace is the leatt brace just rebranded i think

[scott411]

i know BTOsports nad a few of the other big places will not, if you have someone in the states to send it to then send it to you it will be ok,
aplinestars in cracking down on international selling as well

Astars neck brace is still in devolpment, thy have released thier road race one, but are still working on mx version

[Teava]

Got to try the KTM version on the weekend, was verry good i havent actually
tried the leatt brace but i do have to say it felt very comfortable and didnt restric movements, the KTM is the same price as the leatt but i supose it does make you feel alot safer with the safety it offers but i still think for what they are there still to expensive!!

[notch]

It pisses me off how much NZ companies "mark-up" items over here. I guess the states is a much bigger market, but these days the world's a whole lot smaller too. I regularly order stuff from the states from dealers, and ebay. I'd like to use my local dealer, but not when it costs twice as much even after the shipping cost for one item...

[Reckless]

The other thing to watch is that you may not be able to complete the purchase if your billing and delivery addresses are not the same. Some of the USA shops are pretty paranoid about credit card fraud. I'd like to try one as I still have whiplash from the VTR accident and it makes me a bit paranoid of falling off on the trails.

[scott411]

the KTM brace is the Leatt Brace, KTM and BMW funded alot of the devolpment of this brace for thier riders in teh Paris-Dakar, BMW also sella version in Europe,

[scott411]

It pisses me off how much NZ companies "mark-up" items over here. I guess the states is a much bigger market, but these days the world's a whole lot smaller too. I regularly order stuff from the states from dealers, and ebay. I'd like to use my local dealer, but not when it costs twice as much even after the shipping cost for one item...

i know i should stay out of this but i can't

next time your local event needs sponsorship contact the american guys you are getting items off, i would like to hear the response, NZ motorcycle shops do not have outragous margins compared to other companies and the extra tends to be because of the distrubtor margin.

[NordieBoy]

It pisses me off how much NZ companies "mark-up" items over here. I guess the states is a much bigger market, but these days the world's a whole lot smaller too. I regularly order stuff from the states from dealers, and ebay. I'd like to use my local dealer, but not when it costs twice as much even after the shipping cost for one item...

The NZ companies get charged more from the manufacturers as well.
It's quite common to get stuff from the states at less than NZ wholesale.

But warranty problems?
Just send it back:D

[charles23]

there's a global market out there and it's at your finger tips, take avantage of the strong NZ dollar while it lasts.

PS. we didn't see retail prices come down as the dollar value went up!!!

[snarldom]

thats a good point about the dollar, and as scott411 says, the distributors (i think Shayne King and his Crown Kiwi distributors-who seem to have a monopoly going) are putting stupid amounts onto there stuff too

[takitimu]

i know i should stay out of this but i can't

next time your local event needs sponsorship contact the american guys you are getting items off, i would like to hear the response, NZ motorcycle shops do not have outragous margins compared to other companies and the extra tends to be because of the distrubtor margin.

My read as a buyer is also that if there is a big price differential is that it's the distributor, I actually got a bit of a shock when I was in the states last time, alot of things were similar pricing ( if not higher, eg knee guards ), there are exceptions like Renthall Twin Bars ( just try & get those home though, damn things didn't fit in my bag ), but it defies logic that it's the shops who are doing the gouging, the kiwi website pricing is to competitive compared with Australia web sites for instance.

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I can live with 20-25% extra, after all there is GST & you do get local support etc, but in the case of the Leatt's it sounds more like 250-300% extra, which is crazy, it's way to easy now to bypass "local" shopping regulations & you create a chicken & egg, you keep the prices up due to low volume & get low volume because so many get the product from overseas.

[scott411]

i think the leatt is out of line as well, and their is underlining issues why they are not in a lot of dealers as well,

as for Shayne King having a monoply, thats bullshit, their are about 10 distributors in NZ (if anything their are to many for shops to keep up with), he is not the biggest, he has a few brands which he has promoted well and people want, (astars, no fear, pro circuit to name some) he sponsors more nz riders than any one else so he is far from the devil,

the australia reference is the best, our pirces are very simlar to thiers, in fact i often sell gear off my website into Aussie, even with the freight they says its better priced,
last time i went to the states i noticed somethings were better priced, and some things where about the same, one thing i notcied was the staff new fuck all, they were check out operators and thats about it, its a different world over their, the numbers of bikes and gear they sell is in another realm,

[charles23]

nice one, you're more than happy to sell to Australia but want us to buy locally......

[scott411]

yeah i know, just realised what i said, dohhhh,

i just wanted to make the point, alot of people get into the Bike Industry in NZ for excessive margins etc, and we do get a bit defensive,

[Danger]

I have a few NZ suppliers and it doesn't seem to matter if the dollar goes up, it seems the price that I get stuff for never goes down, always up. If anything my margins just get tighter because.....well I don't really know why I should absorb the cut really, just seems that I do. Other wise my prices would be going up each month.
FWIW I did import some boots and a seat once and by the time customs had finished with it I could have got them cheaper here and recieved more support when the boots started to fall apart.
Any business has to be profitable, and when you have a building the size needed by the likes of Crown Kiwi, and the staff to deal with orders etc (as well as the financial risks) and take risks on keeping stock, some of which may never end up moving, well I don't think its any surprise that it costs more to have stuff available the next day rather than having to wait and hassle with over seas orders, customs etc.
I've been burn't importing stuff for my personal use. For me its just not worth the hassle. I'd rather buy locally now. Each to their own though.
Even the seals that I import for my job I have to bring in in small amounts or I get hit buy Customs making the exercise just not worth while, or the seals to expensive.

[notch]

>>next time your local event needs sponsorship
How may events are sponsored by suppliers in NZL? I thought most events were paid for via the entry fee?

You raise a good point - the more stuff i buy from the states the worse the $NZ dealers do, and the more they have to charge...

[umka]

ok so i have found out these things are actually south african.

the prices i have found are SA R2700(nz$503), USA$395 (nz$520), aus$695 (nz$780) and nz$1200 for the base model. this is a crazy mak up and seems rediculous as you could buy 2 from SA or USA for the price of 1 in nz and that will include shipping:gob:

guess i am getting mine form south afica now:yes:

[NZsarge]

btw...alpinestars also have a neck brace.

[Teava]

ok so i have found out these things are actually south african.

the prices i have found are SA R2700(nz$503), USA$395 (nz$520), aus$695 (nz$780) and nz$1200 for the base model. this is a crazy mak up and seems rediculous as you could buy 2 from SA or USA for the price of 1 in nz and that will include shipping:gob:

guess i am getting mine form south afica now:yes:

Nice find:yes:
Now i would'nt mind forking out that sort of coin for one.
But it really does make our prices look like a joke!!:shit:

[scott411]

btw...alpinestars also have a neck brace.

the off rad version is not available till at least next year

[ArcherWC]

Scott, you got prices on the road version, pretty keen to get one now that im racing

Cheers

[scott411]

will pm you with a price,

[Buddy L]

Have a look at then on Ardmore pratices days.
From John Cobb


Brace Yourself‎

Hi guys - I was asked to forward the message below. I wouldn't normally sendout anything other than emails about the track to the guys on the AMAdatabase but I had a visit from Simone Harrison last week and she showed methe website with the Leatt neck braces. I was a bit skeptical at first butafter I downloaded the message from David Bailey (this took awhile) Ichanged my mind. Simone has been doing the lapscoring at Ardmore for the last couple ofyears. She got involved in organising coaching sessions at the track becauseshe could see that a lot of the guys were going to ride faster and weregoing to crash less with good training. After I checked out the David Bailey video I could see why she has decidedto promote the Leatt braces.
Thirty years ago when I started riding wedidn't have knee braces and there was also a time when cars weren't fittedwith seatbelts. If its going to save you, its probably worth having. Anywaycheck out the David Bailey video and make up your own mind. cheers JC Hi To All, I just wanted to let you know I am now in association with Darryll King selling the Leatt neck braces and the CTi wrist and knee braces. If you areinterested and would like some more information on these braces please emailme on mxbraces@gmail.com or you can give me a call on the phone numbersbelow.

I will carry samples of the neck braces with me so you can always catch upwith at the Ardmore Track. I'm usually there Wednesdays and Sundays. Iwill make a donation to the Ardmore Club (Save the track fund) on any bracessold in reply to this email. The Leatt neck braces have been a huge success overseas and now here in NewZealand. Most of the top riders on the start gate are already wearing them.These braces will not fix everything, but they give you the best possibleprotection should the occasion ever arise, "its like a helmet for youneck." As a mum, having waited in the emergency department for the results of anx-ray to see if my son had fractured or broken his neck, I can honestly saythat this was the worst and most helpless feeling I have experienced in mylife. We were very lucky that time, there was no damage. We now have morefaith and confidence when we go riding, knowing we have dressed for theoccasion and are wearing the best protective gear that money can buy.

The Leatt neck brace has a 5 point protection, it helps prevent
1. Hyperflexion : extreme forward head movement.
2. Hyperextension: extreme rearward head movement.
3. Lateral Hyperflextion: extreme sideways head movement.
4. Axial Loading: compression of the spinal column due to the effect offorce on the helmet.
5. Posterior Hypertranslation: rearward movement of the head/helmet on theneck.

You can also check out the web site
www.leatt-brace.com<http://www.leatt-brace.com/> .

Have a look a the David Bailey video, wow.Please note that this is not a paid endorsement from him, this is from theheart of a once world class rider. Ride Hard, Be Safe, Brace Yourself. Kind Regards Simone Harrison PH 09 2924-102Mob 027 321 5955

[soundbeltfarm]

what do they cost to make?
they are so bloody dear.
i know you will say they are cheaper than a broken neck.
but ive got 2 small kids 3 and 5 and they'l out grow them so bloody fast wont they?
if they make them that small.
also how much better are they than the foam neck rolls you can get?
cheers.