Parliament media restrictions

[Indiana_Jones]

So what is eveybodies view on this?

Personally I think it's a crock of shit, and we're one step closer to the real Helengrad.

Oh wait, am i allowed to use free thought still? :shutup:

-Indy

[Cajun]

We pay there wages, we should be able to see whatever they do in that house,

[yod]

We pay there wages, we should be able to see whatever they do in that house,

ill just pull a Hiutcher on ya, it's "their wages"

and yes, you damn right, they are basically tell the press what they can and can't report on - now THAT is pushing things too far!

[Babelfish]

I've got a whole heap better things to worry about than someone doing the fingers to someone else across the chamber. The important stuff is recorded, and if I want a laugh I'll go and watch a comedy rather than waiting for a politician to fall over or make an arse of themselves.

And I'm all for telling the press to pull their heads in. Thats not hiding the truth, but reporting it in such a way that is responsible, i.e. getting the facts.

I think if the press stopped being sensationalists and reporting half truths (or lies) they wouldnt be getting a smack. The fuckers have a large amount to answer for so I'll not be taking their side today. The concept of freedom of speech is one thing, but when to tosser with the microphone is an arse, we should also recognise freedom of kicking his teeth in :mellow:

[Indiana_Jones]

I agree with Temp.

The media do report with half facts etc, look no further then the 'power cut' death bullshit.

-Indy

[The Pastor]

I've got a whole heap better things to worry about than someone doing the fingers to someone else across the chamber. The important stuff is recorded, and if I want a laugh I'll go and watch a comedy rather than waiting for a politician to fall over or make an arse of themselves.

And I'm all for telling the press to pull their heads in. Thats not hiding the truth, but reporting it in such a way that is responsible, i.e. getting the facts.

I think if the press stopped being sensationalists and reporting half truths (or lies) they wouldnt be getting a smack. The fuckers have a large amount to answer for so I'll not be taking their side today. The concept of freedom of speech is one thing, but when to tosser with the microphone is an arse, we should also recognise freedom of kicking his teeth in :mellow:

I most do concur, I don't give a shit about the meida, they can go lie to someone else.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There was a story in the Dom Post the other day about a guy that lost his job, for sleeping on the job. He claimed (Tui) he was stretching his back.

Seeing as his appeal was thrown out (and fair enough too), I'd like the MP's that sleep when they should be doing their jobs sacked as well. After all....I'm paying part of their salary.

[Winston001]

We pay there wages, we should be able to see whatever they do in that house,

Fair enough...............so long as you also apply that to teachers, nurses, soldiers, Customs and Excise, Immigration, Labour Dept, WINZ, Courts, MAF, Earthquake and War Damage............ etc etc all of whom are paid from the public purse.

[Clockwork]

So what is eveybodies view on this?

Personally I think it's a crock of shit, and we're one step closer to the real Helengrad.

Oh wait, am i allowed to use free thought still? :shutup:

-Indy

You're right, it is a crock but while you are calling it Helengrad.... I understand National... and most of the other parties are full square beind this one.... Still, you can always rely on politicians to unite behind their interests.

[Skyryder]

So what is eveybodies view on this?

Personally I think it's a crock of shit, and we're one step closer to the real Helengrad.

Oh wait, am i allowed to use free thought still? :shutup:

-Indy

I heard that that got some ideas from Kiwibiker and appllied them to Parliment.

But serioulsly it's a load of crock. All they have to do is to act like everyone else at work.

Skyryder

[Babelfish]

There was a story in the Dom Post the other day about a guy that lost his job, for sleeping on the job. He claimed (Tui) he was stretching his back.

Seeing as his appeal was thrown out (and fair enough too), I'd like the MP's that sleep when they should be doing their jobs sacked as well. After all....I'm paying part of their salary.

Yeah? What time do you get to work? and What time do you go home? have you contemplated why they are asleep? These guys work very long hours and generally 24/7. And when its question time, they all have to show up so what better time for a snooze if you dont have to answer any questions? Being a politician isnt yer average 9-5 deal so while I expect them to act polically professional, I understand why they do what they do....most of the time


I heard that that got some ideas from Kiwibiker and appllied them to Parliment.

But serioulsly it's a load of crock. All they have to do is to act like everyone else at work.

Skyryder

Really, that easy eh? Like I said above, their jobs are a little different to ours. And act like everyone else? There's a few people I wouldnt like them acting like!

As long as the media reports evenly on the politicians then I'm happy. If they do something illegal then I'd want to know about it. If they pulling he fingers a someone, or sleeping in the chamber at question time, I couldnt give a rats arse.

Whenever there's something in the news, remember to ask yourself "why is this being reported?" You may start seeing things you hadnt seen before. Alternatively, soak up all the bullshit and live whinging.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah? What time do you get to work? and What time do you go home? have you contemplated why they are asleep? These guys work very long hours and generally 24/7. And when its question time, they all have to show up so what better time for a snooze if you dont have to answer any questions? Being a politician isnt yer average 9-5 deal so while I expect them to act polically professional, I understand why they do what they do....most of the time





I work six days a week- (and have done for the last 21 years) from 8 til 5.30 Mon to Fri with a 1/2 hour break for lunch. And I work from 9 till 3 every Sat without a break. I'm avail for my customers (they all have my after hours number)24/7, and get calls at all sorts of hours. I also play pretty hard seeing as I have limited time to do so and stay up till all hours watching things like Moto GP etc. I don't sleep in Sundays as I'm a keen golfer.....so yeah, I work long hard hours. So fucking what? If I slept at work, I'd loose my job. AND, I'm not paid $200,000 a year either.
Poor politicians....working so hard they've gotta have a snooze.

[Flatcap]

I've got a whole heap better things to worry about than someone doing the fingers to someone else across the chamber. The important stuff is recorded, and if I want a laugh I'll go and watch a comedy rather than waiting for a politician to fall over or make an arse of themselves.



This is true - it's not the debate that matters but the outcome.

We are all well aware that politicians are demented.

[Oakie]

Analogy:
You fall off your bike doing a slow turn in the supermarket carpark.

1) Your mate takes a photo and shows your workmates at lunch
2) From that day on, whenever your name is mentioned, that unflattering photo is shown.

Item '1)' is news and is reportable
Item '2)' is showing the photo out of context and not fair to you.

That is what they're pissed off about.

I have no problem with the media reporting when an MP does something embarrasing at the time they do it, and if it is newsworthy. I have a problem with the media using that image over and over again and out of context to make that MP look silly.

[What?]

Some MP's don't need the media to lampoon them - they manage to do this all on their lonesomes.

[Babelfish]

...Sundays as I'm a keen golfer......

Ok, you ruined it right there :mellow:

[ynot slow]

To stop the sleepy sickness prevelent in parliament,perhaps Helen could call for a mass debate,now and then.:Punk:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ok, you ruined it right there :mellow:

lol....and if you've never played golf, my advice to you is never start. C*nt of a game. But that's what makes you keep going back.

There's somethig strangely satisfying about belting shit out of golf balls though.....especially when you start hitting them where you want them to go.

[Skyryder]

Yeah? What time do you get to work? and What time do you go home? have you contemplated why they are asleep? These guys work very long hours and generally 24/7. And when its question time, they all have to show up so what better time for a snooze if you dont have to answer any questions? Being a politician isnt yer average 9-5 deal so while I expect them to act polically professional, I understand why they do what they do....most of the time



Really, that easy eh? Like I said above, their jobs are a little different to ours. And act like everyone else? There's a few people I wouldnt like them acting like!

As long as the media reports evenly on the politicians then I'm happy. If they do something illegal then I'd want to know about it. If they pulling he fingers a someone, or sleeping in the chamber at question time, I couldnt give a rats arse.

Whenever there's something in the news, remember to ask yourself "why is this being reported?" You may start seeing things you hadnt seen before. Alternatively, soak up all the bullshit and live whinging.

I expect some civility and good manners. I also expect them to be alert when they are in Parliment as our representatives. Anything less is an insult to me as their employer. This photo ban is just an excuse for their continued bad manners to each other and 'skiving' on the job.

Skyryder

[Babelfish]

I expect some civility and good manners. I also expect them to be alert when they are in Parliment as our representatives. Anything less is an insult to me as their employer. This photo ban is just an excuse for their continued bad manners to each other and 'skiving' on the job.

Skyryder

ok, I didnt explain a bit. During question time, its pretty straight forward. Each minister gets asked set questions. They know what the basic structure of questions are before they get there. So say the minister of walnuts knows he needs to be in the chamber, but also knows that none of the questions relate to his ministry...it doesnt matter if he is awake or not, as long as someone wakes him for the vote....not that that matters any more as that is only counted on how many people are seated rather than the ol ayes or nays bizzo. When a question is asked, a (hopefully) researched question is returned, then next question, then next answer...bla.bla.bla. Its debating and hopefully means that the govt is on its toes. BUT, poor old minister of walnuts is sitting there having to listed to a bunch of questions to minister of grapefruit, and then the minister of testicles and so on and so on....I'm not going to hold it against him to snooze as long as he's on the ball when the opposition wants to asks about the current batch of micronutrient chlorosis.

[Curious_AJ]

reminds me of a book i read in 7th form called The Handmaid's Tale... their society is pretty close to what ours could EASILY turn into....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid's_Tale.html

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/science_fiction/handmaid.html

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/18/TheHandmaidsTale%281stEd%29.jpg/200px-TheHandmaidsTale%281stEd%29.jpg">

[Swoop]

They are employees. OUR employees...

With the amount of businesses now having cameras installed in their workplaces to monitor their staff, there is no problem showing to the world the level of intelligence being displayed by our leaders.

Gagging the media is another step towards dictatorship.

The media are allowed to report the facts. Hopefully they will show items like "Here is Parekura (who ate all the pies?) Horomia fast asleep in Parliament. In other news tonight...." (Not anything other than a stated fact!).

[Skyryder]

They are employees. OUR employees...




I'm almost tempted to send the next sleeping poly a written warning and send a copy to the media.

Now that would send the cat among the pidgeons.

Skyryder

[Babelfish]

The media are allowed to report the facts.

FUCK, good luck to anyone who knows or even remembers when the media gave a flying fuck about facts.


Hopefully they will show items like "Here is Parekura (who ate all the pies?) Horomia fast asleep in Parliament. In other news tonight...." (Not anything other than a stated fact!).

If they're reporting on someone sleeping its because they cant be arsed reporting on debated questions such as "how many people have slipped through our border controls and what are we doing about them?" The media are being told to do something because they can no longer be trusted to act responsibly