Gotta love hospitals!

[Sparky Bills]

Turns out when I dislocated my shoulder, that I broke my arm too!
So there they were pulling and twisting my broken arm trying to put it back into place!
NO WONDER IT HURT SOOO MUCH!!:shutup:
Luckily for me, the broken part (broke the very top of my arm, the ball part of the bone) fell back into place. So they dont have to operate. YAY for me!

Has anyone else had any problems like this before?
Im out of the Winter Series for at least another couple rounds.
Id be keen to hear from people in the know. How long did you wait etc?

[janno]

Firkin 'el! Sounds most unpleasant. :shit:

Poor you. How long you off the bike for?

[Sparky Bills]

Has been 4weeks now. At least 2 more. Well thats when I go back for a check up anyway.

[Sparky Bills]

What annoyed me about this, was noone at the hospital told me my arm was broken. I found out a week later when the Orthapedic dude told me!
He couldnt understand why they put it back in knowing it was broken!

[Ivan]

That Sux Martin,
I have never had a problem like that.

Any way so long as it heals properly and doesnt require surgery in the future

[007XX]

I hate hospitals with a vengeance...

Sorry to hear of your trouble, sounds very painful!

Didn't have exactly that sort of experience, but once (8 and a half months pregnant), I was waiting to get an ultrasound to make sure my wee boy was doing well...
When a nurse approachs me and asks me to follow her...
And then proceeds to ask me to give her a urine sample, take my gear off and lie down for the preliminary inspection from the doc...wait for this.... for my INDUCTION!!!!:gob:

Needless to say I kind of balked at that :argue: and spend about 10 mins convincing her I was not here to give birth!!!!

:chase:

[Sparky Bills]

I hate hospitals with a vengeance...

Sorry to hear of your trouble, sounds very painful!

Didn't have exactly that sort of experience, but once (8 and a half months pregnant), I was waiting to get an ultrasound to make sure my wee boy was doing well...
When a nurse approachs me and asks me to follow her...
And then proceeds to ask me to give her a urine sample, take my gear off and lie down for the preliminary inspection from the doc...wait for this.... for my INDUCTION!!!!:gob:

Needless to say I kind of balked at that :argue: and spend about 10 mins convincing her I was not here to give birth!!!!

:chase:

Thats got to fill you with convidence!

[007XX]

Thats got to fill you with convidence!

Oh definitely!!!:eek: :eek:

Needless to say, I warned my midwife that any doctors approaching me during childbirth would be promptly :bash: :kick: out of the room! :lol:

[magicfairy]

You could write a letter of complaint but it won't do much - response will be along the lines of "in the situation the staff felt they were doing all they could...."
As an ex-nurse who has seen the system from the inside my dealings with hospitals follow these 3 Rules (I read these once, given by a senior surgeon)

1 Avoid being admitted to hospital if you can
2 If you must stay in hospital, make the stay as short as possible, get discharged as soon as you can
3 Always try and have someone with you when you are being admitted or talking to medical staff when in hospital who can speak up on your behalf, ask questions and will remember what was said at the time.

Hospitals can be dangerous places, mistakes can be made, infections picked up and communications break down.

My own son was given 10 times too much morphine due to a drug calculation error by the nurses (5mg is way too much for a 5lb baby :shit: )
If I hadn't been a nurse, saw him stop breathing and knew how to pick up the phone dial the emergency code and call in "respiratory arrest in childrens ward" (after telling the nurses who ignored me that I thought his breathing was going off) and then told the crash team it was morphine (it was a bit later they realised it was an OD) then they would not have reversed it in time and he would have died.
There are some good doctors and nurses out there, but increasingly hospitals are being staffed by juniors who are inexperienced, overworked and stressed.

[judecatmad]

I hate hospitals with a vengeance...

Sorry to hear of your trouble, sounds very painful!

Didn't have exactly that sort of experience, but once (8 and a half months pregnant), I was waiting to get an ultrasound to make sure my wee boy was doing well...
When a nurse approachs me and asks me to follow her...
And then proceeds to ask me to give her a urine sample, take my gear off and lie down for the preliminary inspection from the doc...wait for this.... for my INDUCTION!!!!:gob:

Needless to say I kind of balked at that :argue: and spend about 10 mins convincing her I was not here to give birth!!!!

:chase:

2 in recent memory - hubby came off his bike last Sept, landed heavily on his elbow. Went to his doc who said it was just bruised and set him home. Was another week before the dipshit Doctor thought to xray it, and that was only cos I was nagging Dave to go back cos of the amount of pain he was in. Lo! and behold, it was broken and had already started to heal.....now he can't straighten his arm properly, but because it's only a little bit out of place, there's no op planned to fix him properly.

And the worst experience I ever had at a hospital was in Feb when I was miscarrying. Presented at Lower Hutt Hospital A&E, was asked what was wrong by the triage nurse (plexiglass between me and him, and the triage area is right in the middle of the waiting room) - this is after having explained to the receptionist what was wrong and having to sit there while a baby was triaged right in front of me - was in floods of tears, hubby had to take over and explain that I was in the middle of a miscarriage. They took me through to the back area and left me in a corridor, waiting. Then a nurse came up to me and asked if there was any chance I was pregnant.........if I hadn't been so upset and shocked at the question, I would have torn strips off her. Hubby is too mild mannered to fly off the handle but I'm still appalled and angry at the insensitivity.

[Goblin]

What annoyed me about this, was noone at the hospital told me my arm was broken. I found out a week later when the Orthapedic dude told me!
He couldnt understand why they put it back in knowing it was broken!I dont blame you for being annoyed, sounds incredibly painful.
I reckon it's because you are a motorcyclist and a lot of doctors think we deserve to suffer for being so stupid as to ride motorcycles....and crash.

Just shows how often they do stuff up. When I had my thumb operated on, they had to draw an arrow on my left arm, above the cast, so they didnt operate on the wrong thumb.

[007XX]

2if I hadn't been so upset and shocked at the question, I would have torn strips off her. Hubby is too mild mannered to fly off the handle but I'm still appalled and angry at the insensitivity.

Really sorry to hear that...I can only imagine how that would feel! All the best for a "retry", if any planned....

[Sparky Bills]

I dont blame you for being annoyed, sounds incredibly painful.
I reckon it's because you are a motorcyclist and a lot of doctors think we deserve to suffer for being so stupid as to ride motorcycles....and crash.
.


But I did it on riding my mountain bike. Maybe the same thing....?Both have 2 wheels, both crash lots.

[u4ea]

Gee Sparky Bills you got a bummer deal!!!I know how painful it is ..when I broke my shoulder in 5 places and had concussion ,the hospital was going to discharge me (to get to another town) with no clothes as I was wearing leathers and there was no way I was able to get them on again in a hurry!yup..Gotta Love Hospitals ..

[judecatmad]

Really sorry to hear that...I can only imagine how that would feel! All the best for a "retry", if any planned....

Already well on the way - 13 weeks as we speak :)

[Goblin]

But I did it on riding my mountain bike. Maybe the same thing....?Both have 2 wheels, both crash lots.Oh say no more! Anything with 2 wheels and you're classed as an idiot.

[007XX]

Already well on the way - 13 weeks as we speak :)

Most excellent! bling sent....My congrats to you and your hubby.:woohoo: :woohoo:

[Sparky Bills]

Oh say no more! Anything with 2 wheels and you're classed as an idiot.



HAHA, Yip Thats one name ive been called!:rockon:
But by far, not the worst.



I had nearly 20Miligrams of Morphine (sp?) and it had no affect at all.
First time ever having that stuff, and i really dont see whats so special about it.

[Goblin]

I had nearly 20Miligrams of Morphine (sp?) and it had no affect at all.
First time ever having that stuff, and i really dont see whats so special about it.OMG! I had 10mg and spewed my ring out. Did ease the pain tho.

[Headbanger]

I cut open my hand, had a few stitches, It had started to heal and then I "fell" out of a front end loader (OK, I leaped, only to find the seatbelt was wrapped around my foot, It flipped me upside down, smacked into the access ladder, and I then dropped to the ground)

After this cunning stunt my arm was in a fair bit of pain, So off to some hospital, Cant remember which, Though it was in Auckland.

After an X-Ray they decided I had broken a bone in my wrist and put me in a cast. (though no break was detectable in the X-Ray).

4 days later, I'm back at home in Wanganui, The pain in my arm has built constantly for the entire timer, To the point where I couldn't handle it, Eyes closed, Spent my time lying on my bed, eyes closed, a tear sitting in each eye, No thoughts, just pain shooting up my arm, constant waves.More pain then I could imagine having.

Finally I broke, Got the BIG KNIFE and cut off my cast, Instantly my hand swelled up like a massive grapefruit, and went funny colours.

At this stage I thought I had better go to the Doc again.

Upon seeing my hand the Doc went a funny colour as well, Immediately rang a surgeon, told him to drop whatever he was doing, he was sending someone around.

So I went off to see a surgeon, after about a minute of looking at my hand he said prepare to lose it. The plan was to cut it open, cut out all the infected flesh, Which would ruin my hand, and if the flesh was rotten into my wrist/arm, he may have to amputate.

Surgery was booked for 8am the next morning.

In the mean time, He gave me a script for some different antibiotics, Told me if they had done anything by 8am the next morning he might hold off the operation.

That was a rough night.

Sweet Jesus, the next morning most of the swelling had subsided and we skipped the surgery.

The hand still took about 3 years to stop swelling up when I used it, and stinging when I knocked it.

Moral of the story, Don't let em put a cast over a recently healed cut (especially when nothing is broken), Inside the cast is a breeding ground for nasty bacteria.

[FROSTY]

SB-- Have a read back on my experience iffn ya wanna horror story.
Both my shoulder and my wrist--for that matter my head all fucked up diagnosis and treatment.
The best line from a doctor---(Keeping in mind I had a badly broken and dislocated wrist)
" Here ya go Take two panadol and see ya doctor in a couple of days if the pain persists"

[Fryin Finn]

Back in 1978 I dislocated my right shoulder for the first of 11 occasions. I managed to pop my shoulder back in myself. I dislocated it a further 2 times in the next 3 days. I dislocated it twice yawning. Part of the original problem was breaking the end off one of the shoulder bones which was not noticed till xrays a coupla years later.

Eventually I had an operation to screw the bit back in place and tightening of muscles in the region. I tested the shoulder a year later in a spill that broke my right collarbone. I was pleased to see my shoulder came through OK.

Since then I have been playing Softball as a pitcher and outfielder and this has strengthened the area considerably. I used to throw like a girl - now I throw like a big girl.

I have dislocated my left shoulder twice - apparently this isn't uncommon. The trick is not to do it again.

[Nasty]

Grub went in and was told he was fine after the fall on the Rimis ... turns out he broke four bones three in his hand and one in his arm ... been told to complain to Health and Disability Commissioner. The problem was the radiologists were on strike ... but they should have booked him an appointment for the next day!

[Goblin]

What about the poor bastard who went in to have his tonsils out and woke up castrated!!! :gob:

[Kenzie]

SB-- Have a read back on my experience iffn ya wanna horror story.
Both my shoulder and my wrist--for that matter my head all fucked up diagnosis and treatment.
The best line from a doctor---(Keeping in mind I had a badly broken and dislocated wrist)
" Here ya go Take two panadol and see ya doctor in a couple of days if the pain persists"

Ah-yup :mellow: heard that too when I broke my left collarbone rather well. No standee/walkee too well due pain of it and with the broken end of bone "tenting" :sick: the skin was told to "go home, take some panadol and try and rest"

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh say no more! Anything with 2 wheels and you're classed as an idiot.

I've gotta say that of all the hospital visits I've had (and there have been MANY)...Wanganui has been the best so far. They were not at all pissed off with 'another stoooopid motorcycle racer' (hey, they love us there!), and apart from the food....I couldn't have asked for better service.

Nigel Willis, who's considered one of NZ's best foot/ankle surgeons was more than impressed with the patch up job they did on my ankle.

So...if you're gonna race at Wangas, and you get it wrong....don't sweat it!

[skidMark]

Im out of the Winter Series for at least another couple rounds.
Id be keen to hear from people in the know. How long did you wait etc?

need somebody to keep the bike on the track you know keep the engine going well etc? huhuhuh lol

[Goblin]

Nigel Willis, who's considered one of NZ's best foot/ankle surgeons was more than impressed with the patch up job they did on my ankle.

So...if you're gonna race at Wangas, and you get it wrong....don't sweat it!Which begs the question...are YOU impressed with the patch-up they did on your ankle?

I wont be racing at Wangas anytime soon. Paeroa? Yes!:yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Which begs the question...are YOU impressed with the patch-up they did on your ankle?

I wont be racing at Wangas anytime soon. Paeroa? Yes!:yes:

Well I guess considering how nasty it was...yeah!

I can't post my ankle x-ray again so I'm told...but I'll put it up as my home picture.....see what you think!

I think they're gonna do the off road section at Wangas again, and that'll rule me out. If not, I'll be back this year!
:Punk:

[sunhuntin]

crasher... why would the offroad section rule you out? i thought it was neat, but in a bad spot cos theres hardly any good viewing places. as a result, i missed most of the action on that section.*bugger* the esses seem a bit funny lately, but the track runs in the opposite direction to how i ride them, which must make a difference.

wangas hospital didnt do too bad a job fixing me up, but they stuffed up enough to leave me with bad knees.

short story: got hit by a car, and carted away in an ambo. left sitting in the ambo admittance area for a while. left leg scraped up nicely and right knee a little sore. got taken up for xrays, and my left leg was stuck in a cast. the scrape was not dressed or protected in anyway from the cast materials. sent home with instructions to return in a week.

a week passes [very slowly, i might add!] and for that week, my right knee was taking all my weight whenever i wanted to move. keep in mind, i was doing 7 hours a week at the gym at the time, and hated being motionless. i even went in, while cast up, and did some arm exercises. [got bitchin arms doing that!!]
by the end of the week, the foot of the cast was crushed due to my putting weight on it. cast gets removed, with a patch left over the scrape that had started to heal and was a lovely yellow tinge. xrays retaken; no break anywhere in the bone. hmmm... must have been a hair on the lens.

now, almost 2 years later, my left leg is numb below the knee and its agony if i lean it on a ladder rung, car bonnet, even the petrol pump hoses can hurt if they rest on the area. if i lean the leg on anything for too long, its enough to just about kill me. my right knee is fucked and has been killing me this week with the cold weather. both knees hate being bent up for too long [ie, kneeling]

i said at the time of the accident that i wanted to go to work [thats where i was headed, after a gym session] and i honestly think that would have been a better option than what im stuck with.

[MOTOXXX]

here is a game you can play to pass the time cookie.

fill in the gaps

tha_ _ a B_ R_

[Crasherfromwayback]

crasher... why would the offroad section rule you out? i thought it was neat,

Simply because my ankle still can't handle being jarred or bashed. Jumps are out of the question at the mo!
Pity, because I come from a Moto-x backround, and normally I'm all for it.

Sorry to hear of your knee injuries...they're a bugger of a thing!:sunny:

[Sparky Bills]

here is a game you can play to pass the time cookie.

fill in the gaps

tha_ _ a B_ R_



HAHAHAHAHA!
With friends like you...
Eat shit cookie!

[Goblin]

Well I guess considering how nasty it was...yeah!

I can't post my ankle x-ray again so I'm told...but I'll put it up as my home picture.....see what you think!

I think they're gonna do the off road section at Wangas again, and that'll rule me out. If not, I'll be back this year!
:Punk:That is nasty! OUCH!
Hope you do get to race again.


i said at the time of the accident that i wanted to go to work [thats where i was headed, after a gym session] and i honestly think that would have been a better option than what im stuck with.Sorry to hear your healing didnt go so well. Kind of damned if you do and damned if you dont. I now expect the worst from doctors and so called health professionals. That way if I come accross good ones, i'll be pleasantly surprised.

[inlinefour]

Turns out when I dislocated my shoulder, that I broke my arm too!
So there they were pulling and twisting my broken arm trying to put it back into place!
NO WONDER IT HURT SOOO MUCH!!:shutup:
Luckily for me, the broken part (broke the very top of my arm, the ball part of the bone) fell back into place. So they dont have to operate. YAY for me!

Has anyone else had any problems like this before?
Im out of the Winter Series for at least another couple rounds.
Id be keen to hear from people in the know. How long did you wait etc?

Been just about a month since I was discharged. Dunno about liking hospital when I was there, but its OK now I'm no longer an inmate...

[T.W.R]

Gives you the shits when you find things out like that SB, knowing something isn't right and having it confirmed.

A mate got T-boned by a car many years ago, got sent to ChCh A&E checked over and sent home with a a supposedly what had been a dislocated shoulder. He went to stay with his parents for a week at Geraldine, went to the local GP to get it checked because of the pain only to have the GP inform him it was actually broken. he ended up having to have it set and 2 pins inserted.

My elbow got destroyed in a crash, and now many years later I live with permanent dislocation, restricted movement, and a non union of the ulna ( permanent break) because the original surgeon used a plate that was to light which ended up breaking and by the time the powers that be realised why I was in so much pain the only possible repair was to patch & hope for the best or the drastic measure of fusing it in place. 12yrs on, 7 separate operations just to try and remedy one screw-up at the start.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ouch!!!!!!!

[Shadows]

I know somebody who dropped a bike on his foot.

When he went to the hospital and told them that he thought he had broken his foot, they ridiculed him saying if he had broken it, he wouldn't have been able to walk through the hospital doors unassisted.

Weeks later they finally did an x-ray as there was no improvement, sure enough, it was badly broken.

[sunhuntin]

Simply because my ankle still can't handle being jarred or bashed. Jumps are out of the question at the mo!
Pity, because I come from a Moto-x backround, and normally I'm all for it.

Sorry to hear of your knee injuries...they're a bugger of a thing!:sunny:

ahh, ok. i thought it might have been a thing set up by the organisers [ie, you cant do this race if you dont do that race]. bugger. hopefully one day youll be able to do the dirtrack here.

goblin.... thats why i avoid doctors like the plague. last time i went to a doc was 2003? for glandular fever. got a script for medicine, which then blocked up my plumbing!! hmmm... too weak to get out of bed, and now that i cant shit, thats not such an issue anymore! was out for a month, during which time, my body healed itself. the meds went down the drain. at that time, i was also doing the hard out gym thing, so being bed ridden for a month was my worst nightmare.

shadows... that happened to me as a baby. 2 years old, pulled the tv down on my left leg [poor old lefty takes all the knocks!!] docs told mum it wasnt broken. i went around for something like 6 months with a broken leg and no cast. lol. no lasting damage except for a small dent.

[Tortron]

i crashed a bike just before christmass last year, landed pretty hard on my shoulder, got carted off in the ambulance and all that. get to the hospital, dr says lift your arm up. I could get it to about 30 degrees lifted and then it just wouldnt go any higher. so she grabs my arm and moves it up - see you can do it, here is some panadol and antihistamine for the swelling... causing my response of your joking right, my shoulder is clearly at least 3 inches lower than it should be.

anyway got it looked at again a week or two after - likely that i tore the ligaments and that it might heal by itself, am getting it looked at again this week as im pretty much sick of constant dislocations, not really being able to do anything energetic with it etc

seriously panadol, nevermind the fact that i didnt think i could yell and scream that loud

[2_SL0]

Turns out when I dislocated my shoulder, that I broke my arm too!
So there they were pulling and twisting my broken arm trying to put it back into place!
NO WONDER IT HURT SOOO MUCH!!:shutup:
Luckily for me, the broken part (broke the very top of my arm, the ball part of the bone) fell back into place. So they dont have to operate. YAY for me!

Has anyone else had any problems like this before?
Im out of the Winter Series for at least another couple rounds.
Id be keen to hear from people in the know. How long did you wait etc?

Yep, my wife did the same in a small MTB accident. Debs (my wife) ended up with stainless pins and screws holding her arm together. they took the pins out about 12 months later.
I can remember the day in A&E, not an experience I wish to repeat. They luckily new Debs had broke her arm. Pretty hard to miss, broken bone was pushing up on the skin, hadn't broken the skin so it looked like an alien was trying to bust out of her arm. Looked freaky, but kinda gross at the same time. They knocked her out before they put her shoulder back in.
Added benefit, Debs can tell when its going to rain, sa small dull ache in her before it rains. I have my very own weather forecaster.

[roadracingoldfart]

I hate hospitals........



They are full of fuckin sick people . ohh and patiants as well.
Yes the sick ones are the doctors and i have given up going to the A & E nowadays.

I spent 6 hours before even an xray with my nephew with what turned out to be a broken arm in 2 places at Wgtn and they gave him (12 yrs old) a script for pamol kids liquid and here , if it gets too sore for you this is the sling for you to use.
WTF, did i go off at them (yes they called security) and i had to leave a 12 yr old in A&E for another 2 hours while i waiting in the security wing room. Eventually the cops came and they sorted the pricks out and took action against the hospital with my sister for neglect of a minor. hahaha wankers.
when will they learn aye ??????

[discotex]

But I did it on riding my mountain bike. Maybe the same thing....?Both have 2 wheels, both crash lots.

Sounds like you did what I did at Easter. Came off a mountain bike at Woodhill and landed on my shoulder.

Fortunately my break was in such a way that the bone healed quickly (the ball got punched down onto itself rather than a snap under the ball). I was riding again after 4ish weeks. Still can't lift my arm over my head but I have full strength for countersteering and braking.

Depending on the break at 4-6 weeks you should be able to at least start sitting on the bike and trying to get your hand to the bars etc. The sooner you start moving your shoulder joint the quicker the recovery (as long as the bone has knitted ok).

As for riding.. My doc said falling on my shoulder again before 3 months would be very bad so I'm staying away from mountain bikes!

[Spuds1234]

My brother Gareth was in an accident just over 2 months ago. He shattered his left ankle, snapped his left femur, broke ribs, collapsed a lung, broke his left forearm, right wrist and chipped his spine. over 20 bones all up. We're not sure how many, he fell asleep as the ICU nurse was telling him. All because some moron in a cage didn't look.

Anyway he had absolutely no problems with the nurses and doctors at chch public hospital. In fact he had some really hot nurses, i was quite jealous of his sponge baths and showers:)

They did miss his broken forearm though for a couple days, but with so many other things hurting Gareth didn't even notice it was sore until they'd fixed a few things up!

The staff at the hospital were really fantastic. We can't complain about them one bit. It's the other patients that pissed him off. The worst one was a 98 year old alcoholic who'd fallen and hurt her spine. She'd wake up at 2:30 every morning and scream for the rest of the night because she didn't know where she was(you'd think she'd figure it out the first time!?!) when she tried to sit up the nurses would restrain her which would make her scream even louder. No one in the room got any sleep for 2 days!

The only other problem he had was after he got discharged and had home help coming round to give him a wash. He couldn't get on with one of his carers who came every weekday. He's a positive, look at the bright side kind a guy and she was a sad sally. He's sitting there going "3 days i get my arms back, can't wait to do things for myself!" she's saying "You won't be able to, your arms won't be able to handle it." LOL the day after he got his casts off he got up extra early, washed, shaved and cleaned his teeth, waited at the door for her just to say "I told you i would be able to do it myself!" The look on her face!

Now he's got another 2-4 months of rehab to go with a really good looking physio. the whole crashing thing seems to have worked out really well for him. Good pay from ACC, a really long holiday and he keeps getting hot nurses! If I had a crash it'd be just my luck to get the ugly ones !