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BuFfY
2nd July 2007, 16:45
Hey girls.

Not quite sure how to word this.

As most of you will know as a woman we have a few medical issues/procedures we have to deal with throughout our lives. One of the main being our smear tests.
What I want to say is.. please please please go yearly! And if you have daughters or sisters or friends... make them go... especially if they are 18-24 as there is a high percentage in this age range who aren't getting smears regularly and are at a high risk of getting cervical cancer. My doctor said to me that even though it is suggested to do it every three years, it is your body and your cervix so you should look after it and get it checked yearly so patterns can be identified and things can be caught early.

I know it is a totally horrible experience but you honestly don't want to go through what I am because you left it for 3 years instead of 1. Is amazing how much can happen inside your body in such a short amount of time!

Panther
2nd July 2007, 16:50
Tis also important to go to a Dr. who knows what they are doing. There have recently been new rules increasing the number of cells in the smear, so that they can be more accurate in diagnosis, with less 'false alarms'.

Str8 Jacket
2nd July 2007, 16:52
The thought of having one makes me very uncomfortable. Ive already had one health scare this year. Maybe i'll get one next year.....


On a serious note, I know you're right but they really do kinda scare me!

Str8 Jacket
2nd July 2007, 16:53
I know it is a totally horrible experience but you honestly don't want to go through what I am because you left it for 3 years instead of 1. Is amazing how much can happen inside your body in such a short amount of time!

Are you OK? BTW....

Mystery
2nd July 2007, 17:17
Hi Buffy
Great post! I definitely second that! Regular exams and early detection can stop a minor problem turning into a major one and caught early enough can be treated effectively. I know this for a fact!

Sorry to hear that you are having to go through this, positive thoughts coming your way :grouphug:

Mom
2nd July 2007, 17:24
Hey and whats a bit of discomfort/embarrasment anyway, when it could save your life. On a side note though, please also encourage your mothers and grandmothers, depends on your age a bit here, to go and get a smear done. My mother was diagnosed a few years ago with an inoperable cervical cancer the size of a grapefruit! When I asked her when she had last had a smear she said "Oh at my age you dont have to worry about that sort of thing" short answer here, she never had one!

Grub
2nd July 2007, 17:26
You guys have it sweet, you're so lucky.

5 times more men die from Prostate Cancer than women die from Cervical Cancer ... and there's no test, free or otherwise, to detect it. Once you've got it, you're history.

Mom
2nd July 2007, 17:29
Hey Grub not true!

There is a blood test that you guys should have around the age of 40. It detects the level of a certain hormone (P..something) that increases when there is a prostate issue. You need to have a base line test result, so that when you go to the docs for whatever in the future you can have a simple blood test to see if there is an increase. That and the finger test :yes: easy cancer to detect and to treat if caught early......no excuses guys.

BuFfY
2nd July 2007, 17:32
Are you OK? BTW....

Not really aye!
Just have to wait for next tuesday to get more tests back from today with the specialist dude. And then we will sort out 'treatment'

Was not pleasant... at all.

Str8 Jacket
2nd July 2007, 17:35
Not really aye!
Just have to wait for next tuesday to get more tests back from today with the specialist dude. And then we will sort out 'treatment'

Was not pleasant... at all.

Good luck chick. Its not gonna be easy but stay as positive as you can and let your mates help! :grouphug:

klingon
2nd July 2007, 17:50
Sorry to hear that Buffy. Hope the tests come back in your favour - whatever they are. I just spent some time being my Sis' support person while she was in hospital for some "girly issue" stuff, and it makes you realsie how much you take your helth for granted!

Good luck, and remember to come in here for some hugs if you feel like it :)

BuFfY
2nd July 2007, 17:53
Good luck chick. Its not gonna be easy but stay as positive as you can and let your mates help! :grouphug:

I am one of those people who hate letting people help! I went for the test on my own.. and I have now had phone calls all day!! Just got off the phone from my sis who said they are concerned cause I am coping so well (but that is only when round people!!)
Thanks for the kind words :)

u4ea
2nd July 2007, 18:06
All the best Buffy....:sunny:Im one of the biggest chickens out there when it comes to my bits

Hitcher
2nd July 2007, 18:18
You guys have it sweet, you're so lucky.

5 times more men die from Prostate Cancer than women die from Cervical Cancer ... and there's no test, free or otherwise, to detect it. Once you've got it, you're history.

Bullshit. There's a simple PSA (prostate specific antigen) blood test. Combined with a rectal examination (shudders visibly), the detection rates are pretty good. Blokes generally don't go the the doctors anyway, so it's a moot point as whether or not making this test/examination "free" would increase detection rates. Like many cancers, prostate cancer, if detected early can be successfully treated. Take thy arse to a qualified medical practitioner!

Panther
2nd July 2007, 18:42
Actually, cervical smears aren't that scary.
My point is you shouldn't use the discomfort of lying on your back on a table with nothing on from the waist down while a cold plastic tong like device gets pushed in you and opens you up whilst swabs prod you and the Dr. Lady smiles at you and asks if its not too uncomfortable; as an excuse for not going to get it done.

BuFfY
2nd July 2007, 18:49
Actually, cervical smears aren't that scary.
My point is you shouldn't use the discomfort of lying on your back on a table with nothing on from the waist down while a cold plastic tong like device gets pushed in you and opens you up whilst swabs prod you and the Dr. Lady smiles at you and asks if its not too uncomfortable; as an excuse for not going to get it done.

mmm yes but what is uncomfortable is when they cut bits out of you....
So yeah.. not the funnest thing I have ever done!

I guess I am hoping others will learn from my misfortune

I just hope I don't loose my hair :(

Stirts
2nd July 2007, 21:24
mmm yes but what is uncomfortable is when they cut bits out of you....
So yeah.. not the funnest thing I have ever done!

I guess I am hoping others will learn from my misfortune

I just hope I don't loose my hair :(

Hun.........it's a state of mind too... to certain degree....had sis there, and an aunty there too.....

Stay positive....don't let this farker get you down....Beat the shit out of it!!

:hug: and thoughts your way

Nasty
2nd July 2007, 21:25
Bullshit. There's a simple PSA (prostate specific antigen) blood test. Combined with a rectal examination (shudders visibly), the detection rates are pretty good. Blokes generally don't go the the doctors anyway, so it's a moot point as whether or not making this test/examination "free" would increase detection rates. Like many cancers, prostate cancer, if detected early can be successfully treated. Take thy arse to a qualified medical practitioner!

It was my understanding that yes there is a test but the effacacy of it (amount of false positives or something like that) precluded it from screening at the moment ... it has come up a number of times when I was working on the breast screening standards.

Nasty
2nd July 2007, 21:27
But to the real thread ... good on ya buffy .. I am sad you were not as lucky as I was .. I waited 13 years between tests .. and was ok ... but I won't do that again ... been told every two years is a must by the nurses here.

Hitcher
2nd July 2007, 21:28
It was my understanding that yes there is a test but the efficacy of it (amount of false positives or something like that) precluded it from screening at the moment ... it has come up a number of times when I was working on the breast screening standards.

The PSA test on its own is an indicator rather than a "gold standard". It's a pretty useful screening test though. And it's been around for a while -- at least 10 years.

Mom
2nd July 2007, 21:34
Hey Grub not true!

There is a blood test that you guys should have around the age of 40. It detects the level of a certain hormone (P..something) that increases when there is a prostate issue. You need to have a base line test result, so that when you go to the docs for whatever in the future you can have a simple blood test to see if there is an increase. That and the finger test :yes: easy cancer to detect and to treat if caught early......no excuses guys.


Bullshit. There's a simple PSA (prostate specific antigen) blood test. Combined with a rectal examination (shudders visibly), the detection rates are pretty good. Blokes generally don't go the the doctors anyway, so it's a moot point as whether or not making this test/examination "free" would increase detection rates. Like many cancers, prostate cancer, if detected early can be successfully treated. Take thy arse to a qualified medical practitioner!


Thank you Hitcher for the proper words.........Like I said....no excuses guys!

Apologies to Buffy for taking this off topic a tad

Curious_AJ
2nd July 2007, 21:35
To be honest, I never even thought of getting a smear done this early in life...

however, I don't really have money to pay the doctor's bills yet, so it may have to wait a while til i get one done... on top of that, I'm shit scared of physicians... (honestly)

but this thread has definately opened my eyes...

crashe
2nd July 2007, 21:38
To be honest, I never even thought of getting a smear done this early in life...

however, I don't really have money to pay the doctor's bills yet, so it may have to wait a while til i get one done... on top of that, I'm shit scared of physicians... (honestly)

but this thread has definately opened my eyes...

Contact Family Planning in your area and ask them how much it is.
Should be either real cheap or FREE with them.

Indiana_Jones
2nd July 2007, 21:40
Hope it turns out ok for you Buffy, we're here for you :)

-Indy

BuFfY
2nd July 2007, 21:41
Yeah I think it is free at family planning. But you can have the el cheapo or the ultramax awesome pap smear test which is more expensive. But both show you enough to know whether something is wrong or not.

Atleast they didn't use a cold as thing this time... it was warm erghhhhh

Scorpygirl
2nd July 2007, 21:44
Hi Buffy - sorry to hear this news chick. Big Hugz 2 you!!! :yes:

Curious_AJ
2nd July 2007, 21:44
Contact Family Planning in your area and ask them how much it is.
Should be either real cheap or FREE with them.

ah, thanks for the info...

chanceyy
2nd July 2007, 21:57
ah, thanks for the info...

or free through your local hospital outpatients ..

Mom
2nd July 2007, 22:01
To be honest, I never even thought of getting a smear done this early in life...

however, I don't really have money to pay the doctor's bills yet, so it may have to wait a while til i get one done... on top of that, I'm shit scared of physicians... (honestly)

but this thread has definately opened my eyes...

This is Mom talking!

There are Womens Community Health Collectives that provide well women clinics for free!!!!!!!!!! Family Planning also will provide that service. Please dont be complacent about your health. If you are sexually active you must have a smear test. If the results come back clear then it is 2 years before you have to have a repeat. There is a national screening programe in NZ, once you are registered they follow up, the visits are FREE!!!!!!!

Go and get a test done, this could be your life we are talking about.

Nasty
2nd July 2007, 22:01
Your nurse at the doctors are the ones who often normally do the test .. so should be cheap there as well .. I know it cost me $12.50 or something like that.

Reckless
2nd July 2007, 22:02
Best wishes Buffy!! you'll be O'K. I had a very close friend that went though a similar thing. Boobs though. And her problem turned out to be nothing but a cist. So think positive.

Oh and that finger test for prostrate is probably the single most horrible thing that keeps us fearless, hard nut guys, away from getting it done. ""shiver with fear"". Not looking forward to loosing my virginity to a rubber glove. I no, I'm a wimp!!

BuFfY
2nd July 2007, 22:05
Umm then why did mine cost me 65 and then 40 for my follow up!?!?!

And today... uhhh 335!!! And then the follow up next week... ughh!

Mrs Busa Pete
2nd July 2007, 22:15
To be honest, I never even thought of getting a smear done this early in life...

however, I don't really have money to pay the doctor's bills yet, so it may have to wait a while til i get one done... on top of that, I'm shit scared of physicians... (honestly)

but this thread has definately opened my eyes...

You can go to family planning they are in Glenfield and they are free.

Mrs Busa Pete
2nd July 2007, 22:23
The thought of having one makes me very uncomfortable. Ive already had one health scare this year. Maybe i'll get one next year.....


On a serious note, I know you're right but they really do kinda scare me!

Hels you get yourself and have a smear you have one scare dont leave to have another one.

In the last year and a half i have had 3 ops to remove tumors & cysts after each op they seem to find more so hels get yourself to the doctors for your smear.


Buffy stay postive they told me one lot didn't look good but when the resolts came back they where fine. Will be thinking og you.

Stella
2nd July 2007, 22:30
I had my first smear at 19 (now 27). Had been sexually active for a year.

Came back abnormal with grade three pre-cancerous cells. That level is as close to cancer as it gets without being cancer, and it aint much of a gap.

Had a wee op to get rid of them. Went under general anaesthetic, had the option. A bit of heavy bleeding afterwards, some yucky gunk to insert for a week, all a bit gross but hey I DON'T HAVE CANCER BECAUSE I HAD A SMEAR!!!

Oh, I can feel a weird shape in my cervix from where they took the bit out. Not something they tell you about at the time. Makes you paranoid when it heals and then feels so very odd.

Now I have to get them done yearly.

Yeah, no one likes spreading their legs for that, yeah it can be uncomfortable, but I hear chemo is worse!

The anxiety beforehand is always worse than the thing that is feared. Believe me, I work for a dentist and see it every day.

Best of luck, Buffy, keep thinking positive. There is always something they can do next! :)

Macktheknife
2nd July 2007, 22:33
Umm then why did mine cost me 65 and then 40 for my follow up!?!?!

And today... uhhh 335!!! And then the follow up next week... ughh!

Specialists charge heaps!.... because they can.
Good luck Buffy, had friends and family go thru similar difficulties, don't let it scare you too much, not many things are carved in stone in medicine.
Just stay positive and save the stress, you could use the energy for better things.


For the guys, my grandfather and my father both died of prostate cancer, before they died they had to endure a dual Orchidectomy (ball removal) and other procedures and then undergo radiation and chemotherapy.
All of which can be avoided by a yearly blood test and an occasional digital examination (I do). Swallow your pride, hide your fear and man up to it, not fun I grant you, but it might save your life.
Over 65% of men in their 60's have some degree of prostate abnormality or cancer.

Thanks Buffy for setting a good example, you ROCK.

Disco Dan
2nd July 2007, 22:34
Anyone want an examination? :shutup: (sorry I had too)

Dont be a stranger BuFty, keep ya chin up and gimme a yodel sometime yeah? :Punk:

MVnut
2nd July 2007, 22:35
Hope your followup test has good results Buffy. Thinking of you.:rockon:

Stella
2nd July 2007, 22:42
you know, it is discussions like this that help us women live longer than men.

Go you Buffy for starting it and all the girls (including those who say they are too scared to go) for adding to it :)

Curious_AJ
2nd July 2007, 22:43
hmm... some of the places being free.,.. and family planning in glenfield... will take into account...

xwhatsit
3rd July 2007, 03:44
hmm... some of the places being free.,.. and family planning in glenfield... will take into account...

<hints id="hah_hints"></hints>Drop by the family planning at uni sometime (you're at UoA, no?), they helped me out with a test when I thought I might've got an STI that I shall not name lol. All clear anyway. They seem to do all these things for free. They also give out ultra-mega packs of condoms for free -- enough to last you at least 6 months, even at teenage frequencies.

Hitcher
3rd July 2007, 08:45
Back on topic, there's a vaccine available now that should virtually eliminate cervical cancer. It requires young women to get the requisite jab prior to them becoming sexually active thus, apparently, creating "moral" dilemmas for parents and caregivers.

Panther
3rd July 2007, 09:06
While this is true about the vaccine for cervical cancer, it has only recently been released to the public I'd guess it is yet to be 'fine tuned' as young girls in Aus are having some ill effects from it.

bert_is_evil
3rd July 2007, 09:19
Gardisil(sp?) It's also only available to 18-26 year olds according to the website I was looking at.

Thoughts are with you Buffy!

BuFfY
3rd July 2007, 10:48
While this is true about the vaccine for cervical cancer, it has only recently been released to the public I'd guess it is yet to be 'fine tuned' as young girls in Aus are having some ill effects from it.


Back on topic, there's a vaccine available now that should virtually eliminate cervical cancer. It requires young women to get the requisite jab prior to them becoming sexually active thus, apparently, creating "moral" dilemmas for parents and caregivers.

My doctor was talking to me about it. And it is for young girls who haven't starting sex yet but it very expensive and they still aren't quite sure it works. And she said she finds it hard to get people to do it seen as they are so young and it hasn't been around long enough to prove that it works well.
But in thinking that... I have already paid the amount of the jabs and I would much rather a jab in my arm than scraping in my.... uhh...

ManDownUnder
3rd July 2007, 10:50
a rectal examination (shudders visibly)

Been there every few years. Get ya pride, put it aside and just f'n do it...

And women's issues... cool post. Very cool post.

Bass
3rd July 2007, 13:10
Been there every few years. Get ya pride, put it aside and just f'n do it...

And women's issues... cool post. Very cool post.


Gotta agree!

Paul in NZ
3rd July 2007, 13:22
Been there every few years. Get ya pride, put it aside and just f'n do it....

When you consider what I've been pushing out through that hole for the last 50 years a finger going up is nothing... I agree - just do it (I was gunna say harden up but thats just soooo wrong on so many levels...)

Al
3rd July 2007, 15:36
Thoughts are with you Buffy!

Men need to have the prostate cancer test done!
I have had the blood test done and as result was clear, did not have to have the "probe".
As ghastly as it may be, I think the "probe" is better and less invasive than having the gland removed.

Best of luck again

Al

Curious_AJ
3rd July 2007, 18:23
the thing is about the jab here... I'd get it, only, if its before relations... too late she cried...

and speaking of huge, mega, ultra, boxes of condoms.. how intriguing...

007XX
3rd July 2007, 19:24
Been there every few years. Get ya pride, put it aside and just f'n do it...

And women's issues... cool post. Very cool post.

All hail MDU and Hitcher on this post..:Punk: You guys rock!!

007XX
3rd July 2007, 19:38
But in thinking that... I have already paid the amount of the jabs and I would much rather a jab in my arm than scraping in my.... uhh...

Oh yeah...i hear you there! all my happy and get well thoughts out to you Buffy.:sunny::sunny:


Went through the whole "OMG I have a lump in my boob" bit last year (2 weeks before Xmas) and had to fork out $500 to find out it was just a " hormonal increase of fluid in a gland"..I was not impressed, I can tell you...shit scared while waiting for the results and like you, I don't like to ask for help.

But eh, sometimes talking to a stranger is easier, so PM if you need...:yes:

and yes, I get myself tested every year, and I make sure I'm wearing my HTFU t-shirt at the time....Just to remind me to look staunch and calm while a turkey baster is being stuck up my hooha...:doctor:

Lest I bite my doctor and give him rabbies... :devil2:

kevfromcoro
4th July 2007, 10:14
just had a prostate test.it aint pleasant .. the doc told me to take my pants down.and bend over...felt his finger go in my backside.then i felt 2 arms on my shoulder...WTF..SHIT Happens

Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)
4th July 2007, 10:24
Thoughts are with you Buffy. Had my Dr ring me and say I'm due. But I had one at Family Planning late last year - she then said Oh you can now wait 3 years. I said No. Yearly thank you. My body - as you say, alot can happen in a very short time. The procedure does not bother me either - I remember my last Dr I had had for 20 years - was more uncomfortable about it than me - but he just kept up a flow of conversation. I noticed in the last 3 years he always asked whether I wanted a Nurse in the room. How times have changed. I always said NO - crikey he'd been doing them for years.

terbang
4th July 2007, 11:03
All the best to yer there buffy. I fortunatly have to do a yearly medical examination for my licence and get the 'digital' prostate check done as well! Yup its not beautiful thing at all but it could help keep me riding bikes for another couple of decades. So its worth it.

NotaGoth
4th July 2007, 12:06
I thought they were meant to warm that thingy up that they stick up you?????

Doc keeps on hounding me to get mine done, but after they demonstrated on a dummy, and managed to get it stuck and have to "yank" and "twist" it back out again I've been put off.. :sick:

buellbabe
4th July 2007, 12:22
mmm yes but what is uncomfortable is when they cut bits out of you....
So yeah.. not the funnest thing I have ever done!

I guess I am hoping others will learn from my misfortune

I just hope I don't loose my hair :(

My thoughts are with you...

been there... after years of normal smears I get a ph call from my GP .
he tells me my smear has come back abnormal and he has made an appointment for me with a specialist.
I was in surgery the next week.

My GP is GREAT.:yes: no mucking around, he took care of everything.

Now cos of that I have to have them every year and I freak out every time cos a few times the results have been 'inconclusive' which means a re-do.

Heres an interesting fact straight from the Specialists mouth:
She asked if I had been thru any stress or trauma recently.
I said "well yeah, my partner died a few months ago"
She then told me that a majority cervical cancer cases are a result of emotional/mental trauma!

So ladies stay positive and keep those stress levels to a minmum!

NinjaNanna
4th July 2007, 12:30
You guys have it sweet, you're so lucky.

5 times more men die from Prostate Cancer than women die from Cervical Cancer ... and there's no test, free or otherwise, to detect it. Once you've got it, you're history.


Not entirely true there Grub.

Prostate cancer rarely kills a man if it is detected early, the problem is men are entirely less likely to visit a doctor to have a finger jammed up our butt to check for a swollen prostate than a woman is to have a smear test done.

I suspect that education is to blame here more than anything, woman have been taught that their test is necessary, men haven't, and I doubt that either is any more comfortable than the other.

Hitcher
4th July 2007, 12:37
Family Planning Disappointed At Refusal Of Vaccine Funding
NewsRoom.co.nz Agency Story at 12:33 pm, 04 Jul 2007

The Family Planning Association says it is disappointed to learn the Government declined to fund a cervical cancer vaccine despite the Health Ministry's strong recommendation.

Documents obtained by Radio New Zealand under the Official Information Act show the Health Ministry and its advisers recommended that adding the Gardasil vaccine to the national immunisation schedule be a priority.

The Government opted not to do that yet.

Family Planning national clinical advisor Dr Christine Roke says it is frustrating to know there is a highly effective vaccine that could make a difference to so many womens' lives, but that is not readily available to those who need it most.

The Government announced shortly before the 2007 Budget that it would not fund Gardasil.

But the documents show the ministry and its immunisation advisers wanted it and three other vaccines added to the national immunisation schedule. The Government decided to fund only one of them.

The Ministry says there has been an explosion of new vaccines, but they are costly and pose difficult choices.

Gardasil became available here about six months ago at a cost of $450. Many doctors want it publicly funded through the national immunisation schedule - which Australia is rolling out for girls and women aged 12 to 26.

It is a human papillomavirus, or HPV vaccine, which is given to girls and young women before the onset of sexual activity, to provide the best possible protection from genital warts and cervical cancer.

About 60 women per year die in this country from cervical cancer.

© NewsRoom 2007

NinjaNanna
4th July 2007, 12:37
I had my first smear at 19 (now 27). Had been sexually active for a year.

Came back abnormal with grade three pre-cancerous cells. That level is as close to cancer as it gets without being cancer, and it aint much of a gap.

Had a wee op to get rid of them. Went under general anaesthetic, had the option. A bit of heavy bleeding afterwards, some yucky gunk to insert for a week, all a bit gross but hey I DON'T HAVE CANCER BECAUSE I HAD A SMEAR!!!



My wife has the same story, its not uncommon people. Don't avoid your tests

janno
4th July 2007, 12:51
For those of you who don't like tests, just go and visit a cancer ward or ask for a blat of chemo to see what it feels like, then decide if getting a speculum up your twat or finger up your jaxsie is that bad after all . . .

As someone who has been just about a professional patient for the last 15 years, since I was 21, let me give you a word of advice.

Leave your dignity at the door of the hospital or doctors, and pick it up again on the way out.

There's a time and place to be worried about pride or feeling uncomfortable, and anything to do with your health is not one of them. (Not talking about malpractice here, of course).

Believe me, when you've had the shit hit the fan big time, you soon stop worrying about the minor stuff . . .

Edbear
4th July 2007, 14:41
Leave your dignity at the door of the hospital or doctors, and pick it up again on the way out.

Believe me, when you've had the shit hit the fan big time, you soon stop worrying about the minor stuff . . .



I agree.

(And I'm still undecided which was worse, the Barium meal, or the Barium enema...:gob:)

Stella
4th July 2007, 17:31
and speaking of huge, mega, ultra, boxes of condoms.. how intriguing...

Go to your doctor (nurse, community health thing, family planning) for a condom script then all of $3 at the pharmacy!

can you believe it: 144 for $3!!!

(of course you may be charged at the place you get the script, then just a repeat script fee from then on, but compared to $156 for the same number (12 packs) retail..... damn that is a deal! :)

Do ask, there are quite a few varieties avaliable, the standard script is for Durex Confidence or similar. They don't prescribe anything fancy, but there are varieties of standard... They also don't do latex-free ones, which are $4 each for the many unfortunates with latex allergy. I spend my working day in latex gloves and started developing a sensitivity, including to condoms..... NOT FUN! Switched to non-latex gloves and now condoms are fine.

Then it is up to your imagination of how to use them ;)

Stella
4th July 2007, 17:35
When you consider what I've been pushing out through that hole for the last 50 years a finger going up is nothing... I agree - just do it (I was gunna say harden up but thats just soooo wrong on so many levels...)

THat is a BRILLIANT way of looking at it.
Too all those, men and women, too embarrassed to go, just thing of how horrible it must be for the docs and nurse to put their fingers up places that all manner of unpleasantness comes out of!

Mentally make it THEIR unpleasant experience, not yours!

(I have had a doc whine something along the lines of 'oh, do we have to??' when I said I needed an examination... ;)

Mom
4th July 2007, 17:43
To voice a personal opinion here.......reading through this thread some folk really seriously need to get over themselves!!! This is called taking personal responsibility for your health in the big picture. OK, so you have to show your bits to someone that you are not attracted to :yes: they are going to touch, insert instruments, fingers or whatever :yes:

SO WHAT!

It does not hurt, really it doesn't.......probably best described as..........yuk!!!!!

Well done Buffy for bring this subject up.

pyrocam
4th July 2007, 18:15
Since there is a lot of guys reading the thread, there is something (other than getting your bits looked at) that you can do. Its really important to encourage and support your wife/ partner/ mistress/ girlfriend etc to go and get these done. thats only 4 people!


But seriously, if you find someone who doesn't want to go / hasn't gone for whatever reason you should really encourage them to make sure they get a check. They will thank you later.

riffer
4th July 2007, 19:03
Family Planning Disappointed At Refusal Of Vaccine Funding

The Government opted not to do that yet.

Of course. We've got future boat races to pay for. Not impressed. I have a daughter about to hit puberty. :(

On the positive side, cervical cancer won't be a problem for my wife. :yes:

PSA test at 40? I didn't realise that... I thought it was after 50. I must ask my doctor next time I'm able to get an appointment, which should be in about ten years. :mellow:

All the best buffy.

BigG
5th July 2007, 07:56
You guys have it sweet, you're so lucky.

5 times more men die from Prostate Cancer than women die from Cervical Cancer ... and there's no test, free or otherwise, to detect it. Once you've got it, you're history. Not quite right Grub, There are checks that the doctor does, the main thing is with guys they need to go and have check ups regulary a blood test being one of them, your PSA is checked and if it is high then there is medication or operation if caught early then something can be done about it. But like the Ladys you must go in for regular checks before it becomes to late.

Pixie
5th July 2007, 10:29
You guys have it sweet, you're so lucky.

5 times more men die from Prostate Cancer than women die from Cervical Cancer ... and there's no test, free or otherwise, to detect it. Once you've got it, you're history.

That's because you live in a feminocracy

ManDownUnder
5th July 2007, 10:46
That's because you live in a feminocracy

Lives in la la land you mean...

(not having a rant at you Pixie...)

No test for it???? You mean it goes completely... undetected! OH MY GOD! It must be a miracle anything get's treated then... I mean what - do they just start cutting open people and ripping out prostates on the off-chance?

Anyway - back on topic... this was about women's examinations, their importance and the issues surrounding them. Cervical vs Prostate awareness, treatment etc ain't a contest. Both issues need adressing, but that seems to be beyond the scope of this thread...

bert_is_evil
5th July 2007, 13:18
That's because you live in a feminocracy

geez, why does every thread in this section seem to turn into battle of the sexes!

Curious_AJ
5th July 2007, 14:07
geez, why does every thread in this section seem to turn into battle of the sexes!

because it's a woman's section, and we like to argue/debate :D

the more i read of this the more aware it makes me, ive started telling my friends all to get it done as well. yet the more i read, also, the more put off i get in some instances LOL!

but no, i guess I will have to suck it up and go to the *shudders* quack... even though they are all the spawn of the DEVIL!!

Hitcher
5th July 2007, 14:21
even though they are all the spawn of the DEVIL!!

I think you have them confused with aromatherapists.

babyB
5th July 2007, 15:10
hay Buffy good thoughts at ya.
hope ya holding up ok knows the waiting is hard big:hug:

i commend you alot of woman find it very hard to share their issues...
me being 1 of them.

Toaster
5th July 2007, 20:45
because it's a woman's section, and we like to argue/debate :D

the more i read of this the more aware it makes me, ive started telling my friends all to get it done as well. yet the more i read, also, the more put off i get in some instances LOL!

but no, i guess I will have to suck it up and go to the *shudders* quack... even though they are all the spawn of the DEVIL!!

So true, health problems big and small for both men and women dont go away when we close our eyes and wish them gone. Getting checked out is so important, dealing with it well is the challenge. It is not having something 'wrong' with us that is where we lose... it is in our reaction and character we can show we won, or lost.

BuFfY
10th July 2007, 17:06
Um just to give an update. I had my follow up today.
Still waiting for some of the results but what came back was all good. I am pretty much all good.
I am most probably going to have surgery but have to wait for the results to come back to make my final decision. He gave me the option of having surgery or waiting til November and having another thingy the same as last monday. And that hurt pretty bad.. and I am thinking getting the cells removed completely will mean I am at less risk of anything else bad happening.
So yeah... There is a high chance there will be lil baby buffy's running around one day... Like the best news I have ever heard!!

Thank you to everyone for the comments in the thread, PMs and emails... means SO much!

crashe
10th July 2007, 17:32
Um just to give an update. I had my follow up today.
Still waiting for some of the results but what came back was all good. I am pretty much all good.
I am most probably going to have surgery but have to wait for the results to come back to make my final decision. He gave me the option of having surgery or waiting til November and having another thingy the same as last monday. And that hurt pretty bad.. and I am thinking getting the cells removed completely will mean I am at less risk of anything else bad happening.
So yeah... There is a high chance there will be lil baby buffy's running around one day... Like the best news I have ever heard!!

Thank you to everyone for the comments in the thread, PMs and emails... means SO much!

Cheers for the update. Glad to hear all is going ok.
All the best with the op if and when you decide to go ahead with it.
Awwwwww a little BuFfY running around one day aye......:shit:

Scorpygirl
10th July 2007, 17:35
Awesome news Buffy!! Sounds like its going to be a positive outcome!! :yes::yes:

Edbear
10th July 2007, 18:10
Awesome news Buffy!! Sounds like its going to be a positive outcome!! :yes::yes:


Wot she said!

MyGSXF
10th July 2007, 18:55
Yep.. great news Buffy!!!! :Punk:

REGULAR yearly checkups are vital!! One year I was fine.. the next year.. I had a Cin3 smear.. the BAAAAD one :sick: was rushed in for emergency surgery to remove the whole end of my cervix. Spent a horrid week, with heavy bleeding & was generally very uncomfortable!! :mellow:

Have been clear since!!! :yes: but hey.. I would choose to go through THAT experience again, any day!!! rather than what could have been.... :(

Take care chick!! & wishing you all the very best!! :hug:

Jen :rockon:

PS: another place for women to go to get info, etc.. is their local "Womens House".. I would think that most towns would have something like that anyway!! I get my smears done there.. for free! :Punk:

Nasty
11th July 2007, 07:52
Buffy .. all the best with the decision ... a colposcopy is defiantely not the nicest thing .... whatever decision you make is the right one for you :)

Sanx
11th July 2007, 21:19
My other half can recommend a specialist on the shore called Bernie Brenner. Has a surgery on Shakespeare Road. She's been to see him a couple of times and has always come away thoroughly impressed with how professional and comfortable (all things considered) he made her feel throughout.

Good luck Buffy - I hope everything goes smoothly for you.

007XX
11th July 2007, 21:25
Awsome news chick! All the best..
Procrastination is the worst thing I am told with cancer, and you are tackling this bastard thing head on...

Good on you mate. Got my fingers and toes crossed for you.

oldrider
11th July 2007, 21:30
Hey girls.

Not quite sure how to word this.

As most of you will know as a woman we have a few medical issues/procedures we have to deal with throughout our lives. One of the main being our smear tests.
What I want to say is.. please please please go yearly! And if you have daughters or sisters or friends... make them go... especially if they are 18-24 as there is a high percentage in this age range who aren't getting smears regularly and are at a high risk of getting cervical cancer. My doctor said to me that even though it is suggested to do it every three years, it is your body and your cervix so you should look after it and get it checked yearly so patterns can be identified and things can be caught early.

I know it is a totally horrible experience but you honestly don't want to go through what I am because you left it for 3 years instead of 1. Is amazing how much can happen inside your body in such a short amount of time!

Hey girls, forget the smear test, I have perfected the "taste test" :bleh: and I do it for free, in fact, I will even shout a free dinner, wine, song, oh the list goes on!

Because of popular demand, by appointment only this month! :first: Dreamin again! :whistle: John.

Edit: OK OK joke in bad taste! (oops excuse the punn) Sorry Buffy hope evrything is Ok for you. Cheers john.

Curious_AJ
12th July 2007, 01:29
good to hear all went well that you got back.. and if you have surgery, AJ will give you muchly big sun flower bouquet!

The Pastor
12th July 2007, 19:19
oh good news for a change eh? so glad that ur 95% awesomer now .. if that makes sence.

Magua
13th July 2007, 05:16
Great news, Buffy. :)

BuFfY
13th July 2007, 13:19
Thanks again everyone! My dad is still stressing out majorily and told my grandparents yesterday (well i am assuming anyway) because I got a text from them (yes a text from my grandparents!) saying how precious I am to them!!

Hawkeye
13th July 2007, 23:47
Buffy .. all the best with the decision ... a colposcopy is defiantely not the nicest thing .... whatever decision you make is the right one for you :)

Had to read that a second time there Nasty. It looked far too much like a Colaposcopy. And I dread to think what one of those are.

Good luck with whatever decision you make Buffy.

judecatmad
14th July 2007, 05:35
You guys have it sweet, you're so lucky.

5 times more men die from Prostate Cancer than women die from Cervical Cancer ... and there's no test, free or otherwise, to detect it. Once you've got it, you're history.

Grub, that attitude is WHY so many men die of Prostate cancer. There ARE diagnostic tools for the condition. No, you can't stop it happening, but you can catch it early and then you can manage it.

There's the PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen) blood test and the DRE (digital rectal examination - doc's finger up your arse basically. No it's not nice, and it's embarrassing, but if you think it's any worse than having a cold metal implement [speculum] closely resembling a Ford Cortina shoved up your fanny then you need to think again!). In combination, these 2 are a pretty good diagnostic combination for an abnormal Prostate.

Sometimes the PSA is up and there's nothing wrong - that's a good thing, at least you've been checked out. Sometimes the Prostate is enlarged and it's a benign condition - not so good cos it affects the ability to pee, but still not cancer and still treatable.

My father in law died of Prostate cancer at 69, 2 years after diagnosis. He was diagnosed with inoperable Prostate cancer after he finally went to his doc. He hadn't been able to pee properly for 18 months. He'd said he hadn't wanted someone prodding and poking around - so he effectively chose death. I'm still angry with him, 3 years after his death. We loved him so very much.

So when men turn around and say there's no diagnostic tool for Prostate cancer - you're right, once you have it, you have it. In the same way that once you have breast cancer, you have that. However, it's the 'how you manage it' that's important.

If caught early, you can live with Prostate cancer for the rest of your life and die of a totally unrelated cause ('old age' being preferable!). Many men do. However, if you leave it too late and the cancer has spread outside the Prostate, that's when you're buggered. But that only happens (generally) when you've not had regular check ups or you've ignored your symptoms.

I guess the message really is the same for everyone.

Girls - get your smears done regularly and do your breast examinations each month. And go for your mammograms every time you're called up. Neither are very pleasant, but both are better than having to deal with the long-term effects of advanced cancer.

And guys - get a PSA and DRE done every year after the age of 40, and check the testicles regularly for lumps (LOL, what am I saying? There's not a guy alive who doesn't do a testicle check at least every hour!!!)

All we can ever do is make sure we go to the doc if we are symptomatic - and let the docs do their stuff - and make sure we have the age-appropriate screening health checks to try and ensure we stay healthy, whilst not living in a state of paranoia.

There will always be people who suffer illnesses early in life, or whose screening checks came back with false negatives, or whose illnesses came on in-between the advised checks, or whose illness simply wasn't one that was able to be picked up by any tests until it was too late (like my mum's Pancreatic cancer) - that's the the way life goes sometimes. It's a shit, but that's life for ya.

Sorry to hijack your thread Buffy - I hope you're OK and making a good recovery xx

buellbabe
14th July 2007, 07:38
Thanks again everyone! My dad is still stressing out majorily and told my grandparents yesterday (well i am assuming anyway) because I got a text from them (yes a text from my grandparents!) saying how precious I am to them!!

aw...thats so nice...

Glad to hear things are turning out ok :yes::sunny:

Nasty
14th July 2007, 12:17
Thanks again everyone! My dad is still stressing out majorily and told my grandparents yesterday (well i am assuming anyway) because I got a text from them (yes a text from my grandparents!) saying how precious I am to them!!

They 1ant you to draw strength from their love :)

Curious_AJ
18th July 2007, 00:30
They 1ant you to draw strength from their love :)

thats sweet... would be really great to hear people say that to you, and tell you how precious you are to them...

BuFfY
18th July 2007, 17:04
thats sweet... would be really great to hear people say that to you, and tell you how precious you are to them...

Is kind of upsetting cause they only said it cause they thought I was going to die. :(

janno
18th July 2007, 17:14
Is kind of upsetting cause they only said it cause they thought I was going to die. :(

Or they said it because they suddenly realised they hadn't said it lately! Are you seriously thinking that when you get the all clear they are going to say - uh, just pretend we didn't say that because now that you're better we don't mean it at all . . .

Don't be silly! They either love you or they don't, nothing to do with if you are going to die or not.

007XX
18th July 2007, 17:21
Is kind of upsetting cause they only said it cause they thought I was going to die. :(

oh, sweet, don't say that...

Bear in mind that the older generation don't find it as easy to talk of their feelings and they must feel really bad about what you are going through, and they are obviously wanting to back you in your time of need...

For what it's worth, I think you're a lovely young person, and I haven't met you, so your own blood??...of course they love you...

Don't underestimate the generation gap in communication, they are obviously trying as best they can.

Mom
18th July 2007, 17:26
Is kind of upsetting cause they only said it cause they thought I was going to die. :(

Hey Buffy, they may be a bit like me mate. I have lost some very dear people to me over the years, and now I make a point of telling people how much I appreciate them and love them while they are still alive. It has nothing to do with them about to die at all. I cared for my best friend for many months in the end stages of her cancer, it was such a privilege to be able to spend that close, everything is important time with her. We said many things to each other which was wonderful! Sadly I have also lost friends in accidents, so now I make a point of letting people know how I feel about them when I can.

For somepeople it might take a little gentle reminder (an illness, or accident) to make you realise you need to say something. Hope that makes sense.

BuFfY
18th July 2007, 17:27
Is a shame that terrible things have to happen for people to share their true feelings though don't ya think!

But yes, I do know they were just worried. They aren't technically my 'blood' as my dad was adopted but I do 'consider' them as my blood.

Toaster
18th July 2007, 20:34
Is kind of upsetting cause they only said it cause they thought I was going to die. :(

I know of one who said it, simply because you are precious to him.

BuFfY
21st July 2007, 11:14
Yesterday I got a missed call from my doctor, but being a teacher I can't answer my phone in class. So he rang my mum (I put her as next of kin) and talked to her about my results.
Turns out things are bad. He wants me to have surgery (before he told me it was my decision and got me to book a colposcopy which kind of suggested to me he didn't see the point in surgery). he has booked me in at the hospital for wednesday. Like, this wednesday. Mum said to him that because I am on practicum I wont want to do it, and seen as I will have to have two days off it probably wont work for me at the moment.
He said I have to go in today (12.30) to talk to him so he can convince me to have it so soon.
I am so scared! I had kind of put it to the back of my mind and now... well! its back!!

will keep you updated

scumdog
21st July 2007, 11:21
Yesterday I got a missed call from my doctor, but being a teacher I can't answer my phone in class. So he rang my mum (I put her as next of kin) and talked to her about my results.
Turns out things are bad. He wants me to have surgery (before he told me it was my decision and got me to book a colposcopy which kind of suggested to me he didn't see the point in surgery). he has booked me in at the hospital for wednesday. Like, this wednesday. Mum said to him that because I am on practicum I wont want to do it, and seen as I will have to have two days off it probably wont work for me at the moment.
He said I have to go in today (12.30) to talk to him so he can convince me to have it so soon.
I am so scared! I had kind of put it to the back of my mind and now... well! its back!!

will keep you updated

Shoot! NOT what you wanted to hear I bet - but get in there and get it sorted, DON'T shilly-shally and 'put it off' -time is of the escence, it's YOUR life, you only have one so look after it.:yes:

And good luck!!

crashe
21st July 2007, 11:55
Go and see your dr at 12.30 today.....

Dont worry about school/work....... the operation is important.....

Your life is important.

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

klingon
21st July 2007, 12:57
He said I have to go in today (12.30) to talk to him so he can convince me to have it so soon.


Buffy, I have two words for you: DO IT!

What's two days off in the scheme of things?! Your health is INFINITELY more important. You must have the op. And that's that. I won't put up with any arguing, young lady! :nono:

PS sending hugs and positive thoughts your way :)

Edbear
21st July 2007, 13:04
Buffy, I have two words for you: DO IT!

What's two days off in the scheme of things?! Your health is INFINITELY more important. You must have the op. And that's that. I won't put up with any arguing, young lady! :nono:

PS sending hugs and positive thoughts your way :)




Wot she said!:msn-wink:

Magua
21st July 2007, 13:12
Get in there asap, Buffy. School can wait.

BuFfY
21st July 2007, 14:11
Well the doc said he was sorry for talking to mum and not me, he thought she had my permission, but she didn't. Makes mum feel like she is included so it is ok.
Some of the stuff he told me was kind of shocking and scary. I will be at the Southern Cross Hospital in Wairau, cause I have medical insurance. I have been talking to my associate and she said for me to do what ever I need to do. So I will most probably have my op next tuesday. Mainly cause I have the class to myself on wednesday and I feel it isn't enough notice to give the school.
He said it is important to go as soon as possible. I now have to have a colposcopy 6 months after this thing and then a smear every year for the rest of my life. he is only taking away the bad cells. They will most probably come back which is why I have to be so regular
No sex for 3-6 weeks. Not that I will want to! After being violated! I will be under general anaesthetic and will most probably take the next day off school as it can be quite painful.
Um... oh and I will most probably have to have a c section if I have bubbas, but atleast he is saying I can have them!!
So, BuFfY is slightly sad. but is being brave.

Magua
21st July 2007, 14:40
That hospital is just around the corner from a lot of us. If you want some visitors just let us know.

klingon
21st July 2007, 15:08
Buffy, I presume it is outpatient surgery - they aren't keeping you in overnight?

Please plan to take it easy on Wednesday. I would like you to at least talk to the school about not working that day. People get sick - it's just one of those things. And you will be sore and more than likely a bit miserable on Wednesday. You won't be doing anyone a favour by being there and not being at your best.

If you had suddenly caught the mumps they would have to find a replacement for the day. So they must be able to find a replacement for you while you recover from surgery!

Curious_AJ
21st July 2007, 15:25
omg, buffs. here for yooooouu!!!

and you be strong, you're a powerful lady :) AJ thinks so muchly.

and as mag said, if you want visitors, i'll be there in 2 seconds!

Toaster
21st July 2007, 15:33
So, BuFfY is slightly sad. but is being brave.

You already know what I think my friend. You are certainly in all our thoughts and have our best wishes as you go through all this.

You were an absolute pleasure to meet in person a while back. I hope I see that smiling face again one day. Take good care now. And yes you are brave. You rock BuFfy. :rockon:

Mystery
21st July 2007, 15:57
He said it is important to go as soon as possible. I now have to have a colposcopy 6 months after this thing and then a smear every year for the rest of my life. he is only taking away the bad cells. They will most probably come back which is why I have to be so regular


Hey BuFfy

What Klingon said, please take some time to get over it! You may be really surprised at the emotional effect it has on you. The fear and worry leading up to the op and the releif of getting it done may take their toll so please give yourself a little break!

Specialists are always very careful to keep a close eye on things, it doesnt necessarily mean they will be back. I go for smears yearly after having bad cells removed 16 years ago and they have all been clear.

Be strong and stay positive hon :grouphug: Im here for you if you need to chat

crashe
21st July 2007, 16:01
BuFfy - Trust me on this ok.
I have been in and had (a few) day surgery(ies) in the past.... do NOT go to work/school on Wednesday.
Take that day off work... for one you are NOT allowed to drive for a couple of days. You will be sore and will not be wanting to put up with screaming delightful children. You need REST after this ok.

The general anesthetic makes you feel all funny for a few days.... afterwards.

Pyrocam - best you be reading this and listen to what I am saying and make sure she takes the Wednesday off.


The school/work will understand and they will get in a relief teacher for the day.

This is your life we are talking about here so rest up.




:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

BuFfY
22nd July 2007, 16:57
Yeah I am fairly sure I will be taking the wednesday off. My associate said for me to do what ever I need to do so that is nice of her.
Had a talk to dad today, text him and said can you ring I need to tell you some stuff. So he was slightly freaked! Made me realise that the general might mess me up more than I thought (seen as I have never had one I actually have no idea what to expect)
But yes, I do not think I will be much use at school the next day, especially seen as it is PE in the morning and then sport in the afternoon! So I will just lie on the couch and read a book and watch DVDs.

Oh and this might sound completely silly, but do they take your make up off when you go in? Like, can I wear it?

007XX
22nd July 2007, 17:04
Yeah I am fairly sure I will be taking the wednesday off. My associate said for me to do what ever I need to do so that is nice of her.
Had a talk to dad today, text him and said can you ring I need to tell you some stuff. So he was slightly freaked! Made me realise that the general might mess me up more than I thought (seen as I have never had one I actually have no idea what to expect)
But yes, I do not think I will be much use at school the next day, especially seen as it is PE in the morning and then sport in the afternoon! So I will just lie on the couch and read a book and watch DVDs.

Oh and this might sound completely silly, but do they take your make up off when you go in? Like, can I wear it?

hey hun...I know it's scary, but you're going to be ok...Like everyone else said, you're strong, so keep your chin up...

I agree with Crashe in the fact that an op like that is going to have a mental as well as a physical effect on you. So take the time off, and don't bottle anything in...make sure to have family and friends there, but only if you want them there...

It is a time you will need to be selfish and think of number One first and foremost....

As far the makeup goes, your nurse or doctor should be able to let you know prior to the op...In my experience, it's best you take it off...Panda eyes when you get out of it is not the most attractive sight anyway!

Good luck Chicky, my thoughts will be with you on Tuesday.

klingon
22nd July 2007, 21:55
My Little Sis had an op recently and I was amazed how much the general anaesthetic knocked her around. This was her second op so this time she had some idea of the side effects but it was still hard on her. And hard on me being by her bedside when she woke up and there was nothing I could do to make her feel better! Once a Big Sister, always a Big Sister!

As for the makeup, you will need to remove it, and also any nail polish on fingers and toes. They need to be able to see your proper skin tone as often that's one clue about your general health - eg if you're getting a rash or rosey cheeks or your extremities are a good pink colour or turning a bit blue!

There is no doubt about it, this experience will not be fun. But it will be worth every bit of discomfort to have the best possible outcome. I will be thinking of you all day.

Have a hug. :hug:

MVnut
22nd July 2007, 22:20
All the best from the Mainland Buffy, we'll be thinking of you:scooter:

crashe
22nd July 2007, 22:22
Remove all make up...
Remove all jewellery as well - Thats watch, earings, rings and necklaces, ankle bracelets and bracelets oh and all studs (nose, eyebrow etc etc).


I have been under the knife a few times now......
3 nose jobs (due to a nasty break), a clean out inside with/including a camera and a full adominal Hysterectomy. So I know how you will be feeling after the operation.

If you are by any chance a shallow breather, make sure that they know this.
As this is very important in the recovery room. This is due to the oxygen levels that they need to get into you.

If you need to be placed on your which ever side after the op, let the nurse know this before hand and the reason why. (I have to be placed on my side after any operations due to a chronic bad back)

Take any med's that you are on, in with you, so that way they are aware of them. They will also ask if you are allergic to any med's etc...
The forms are very complex and you will be asked the same things over and over by different medical staff.

As they wheel you in they double check that you are you and what the op is for etc.

When they put the lure (needle) in your hand, start thinking nice thoughts like what a lovely day it is etc... do NOT swear when it goes in...... or when the anesthetic is going in you (it feels cold) cos if you do you are more likely to come out of it swearing like a trooper.......lol.

Afterwards, you will go into the recovery room until they left you go home (since you are only there for the day)...
If you feel sick at all let them know...... they can give you something to help you stop feeling sick..... unless its too late and you upchuck in a wee tiny bowl.
They wont let you go home unless they are happy with everything...

About 30 minutes before you go home then contact your driver to come and get you... they are allowed to park the car out front and they get downstairs to ring it throu that they are there.

If you need to know anything else, ask away or pm me.....

buellbabe
23rd July 2007, 07:03
DO IT!!!!!!!!!

Buffy my doctor did the same thing... had me booked in before even ringing me. And yeah I also have to be tested every year...waiting for the results every year is a stressful experience but its been 7 years now and all good since the surgery.

Be thankful that something is being done. I know its a freakout but the alternative is NOT an option.

hang in there... sending positive thoughts your way :yes::sunny:

Nasty
23rd July 2007, 07:55
All the best Buffy ... we are sending postive energies your way from Wellystown :)

Paul in NZ
23rd July 2007, 09:12
Go for it.... Plenty of rest afterwards though because anytime you have general knock out (ok I cant spell anna whatever OK) it seems to linger for a long while... Sort of feel a bit crap for a few weeks...

Dr Paul says Definately take the following day off - I was a hero after my vastectomy and ended up with a bruised banana and a couple of black boy peaches - not nice...

Jeese but we live in an age of wonder eh? It would not have been possible a 100 years ago mate... probably would have ended up with the local witch doctor in a sweat box and stuffing a mustard filled gerbil up there .....

Actually that sounds kinda fun.....

BuFfY
23rd July 2007, 18:32
Well I rang up to book today.
Had a big talk to my associate (I love her!!) she okayed it with the school and let my lecturer know (I was suppost to be being assessed that day!).
So next Tuesday lil Buffy will be in hospital. I am lucky I have medical insurance and that it is private! Good old Southern Cross Hospital in Wairau! Not sure yet what time I go in, they are ringing me on friday to discuss everything with me.

Oh and my associate said I should def. have the wednesday off as well, and that she will just teach the lessons I have planned. Huge relief!

Thank you sooo much Crashe!! I have never been through any of this before (my first time in hospital was earlier this year when I had tonsilitis but I was only in for a few hours). Damn! people will see me with out make up!! They will be concerned because I am so pale! Poor lil Buffy!!

BuFfY
23rd July 2007, 18:34
Oh and the day I get back to school I am assessed! Got a lecturer coming to school to watch how I handle the class and stuff. My associate said to me today to not worry at all, that I am passing with flying colours and that she would pass me now if she could!

Toaster
23rd July 2007, 19:25
So next Tuesday lil Buffy will be in hospital. I am lucky I have medical insurance and that it is private! Good old Southern Cross Hospital in Wairau!

Careful, there are stalkers out there ya know! You might get flowers....


I am passing with flying colours!

So the lesson in introductions to flight went well then! Bwahahahaha!

All the best you. Make sure that boy of yours takes very good care of you now. :yes:

007XX
23rd July 2007, 19:34
Oh and the day I get back to school I am assessed! Got a lecturer coming to school to watch how I handle the class and stuff. My associate said to me today to not worry at all, that I am passing with flying colours and that she would pass me now if she could!

Excellent!!! well done...see, things always look up eventually...:Punk:

Scorpygirl
23rd July 2007, 19:37
Take good care Buffy. Will be thinking and praying for you. Now listen to what Crashe says - I have been through I few ops myself and hers is all good advice. Big Hugz to you girl. Keep positive!! :yes:

BMW
24th July 2007, 06:45
Take good care Buffy. Will be thinking and praying for you. Now listen to what Crashe says - I have been through I few ops myself and hers is all good advice. Big Hugz to you girl. Keep positive!! :yes:

Have fun his hospital. You also take care!

PRYDEE
24th July 2007, 12:19
Heh its not about who has it tougher-male or female?

I think this is a farken good issue and good on you for spreading the word to help others.Good luck to you.

BuFfY
29th July 2007, 16:53
Just another update.
I am in on Tuesday at 10.45. They said I will be in for 4 hours max so I am hoping to be home and tucked in bed by 5 that night (after mummy takes me to the supy to get all the goodies I will need/want)

A huge thanks to Crashe for popping in yesterday! Means the world to me!

I'm not freaking out or anything at the moment. I know I will be nervous in the morning, but at the moment I have other stuff to think about so I will deal with Tuesday on Tuesday!!

Crashe told me visitors wont be allowed, I am such a noob at all this! And I am fairly sure I wont be in a state to see any one that night either. I will be cracking my whip and will turn Cam into my slave for the next few days.

Will keep you up to date with the rest of it as it happens!

crashe
29th July 2007, 17:16
(after mummy takes me to the supy to get all the goodies I will need/want)

A huge thanks to Crashe for popping in yesterday! Means the world to me!


Crashe told me visitors wont be allowed, I am such a noob at all this! And I am fairly sure I wont be in a state to see any one that night either. I will be cracking my whip and will turn Cam into my slave for the next few days.

Will keep you up to date with the rest of it as it happens!


Yep, grab your prescriptions etc on the way home.

As to no visitors at the hospital: You are only in there to have the operation, then in the recovery room, then you are sent home.
Visitors are NOT allowed in the recovery room - with the exception of your mummy as she is taking you home. She may be allowed in, to pick you up or else she will meet you at the front door.

Yep first night at home - have no visitors as you will be very dopey still and need to rest and sleep.

Cam, will be your slave for the night - if not let me know.... :rofl:

All the best, you will be fine.

BuFfY
1st August 2007, 15:48
Hey, well yesterday went well. I arrived and everything went on time. Was such a nice hospital! I got all dressed up in my special gown, and I even got a robe to wear over top and matching slippers!!
I was under for about 45 mins they said. Everything went as planned and I was home at about 2.30
I am not in too much pain (due to 4 hourly dosage of pain killers) but I had a few stabbing pains this morning which made it obvious that I did indeed need to take the pain killers.
I have just been lying on the couch all day. I am very tired as I didn't sleep very well last night and was wide awake at 6.30 this morning wondering if I was ever going to get back to sleep!!

Yesterday I felt a bit groggy and dizzy after the general but didn't feel sick or anything.

I totally love my specialist. He made it so easy. I wasn't scared at all, or nervous so I am very very proud of myself!

Um, I think that is all I need to say...

BuFfY
1st August 2007, 15:49
Oh and I didn't ask for photos... don't think people would really want to see that!!

klingon
1st August 2007, 16:14
Yay! Congrats! Good on you! :D

Glad to hear it all went well and you're resting up as instructed.

Nasty
1st August 2007, 16:20
well done Buffy - its great when you feel well looked after ain't it :yes:

crashe
1st August 2007, 16:51
BuFfy - Glad it all went well mate. Now just rest up and do as your specialist instructed you to do.
Do take it easy as well. Oh and take them painkillers when needed.

Can you do me a wee favour....... Can you thank and give pyrocam a hug from me for the text yesterday just after you got home.


See it wasn't that bad now was it.......

Mind you the first time going into hospital can be scarey for some people.
But you were brave and overcome those fears. Well done.

Curious_AJ
5th August 2007, 19:18
yay for buffs!

i've had one op in my time in my mouth, pretty much the same deal with visitors etc.. but i was vomiting blood and felt really bad after so i was glad that no one but my mom and dad were there... and my op was at 7am... (ugh)

but yeah, for ages i couldnt talk or eat... mmm straw food... and walking made me want to vomit... i guess i'm just not god during/after anaesthetics... but luckily i got it done (after many tests).. it was a benign tumour in my mouth, yet it was eating away at my teeth inside my gums and would have eaten away the bone if they left it any longer!! not to mention i looked like a bit of a freak lol...

GOGAL
8th August 2007, 15:27
I just read this thread today - hope you are feeling heaps better now Buffy - and good on you for sharing this personal stuff with KBers Anything that helps make women of all ages aware of the importance of regular smears can only be good. I too have been through a similar experience but resulting in an emergency hysterectomy. I can relate to how scared you have been, but absolutely congratulate you for making all the right decisions and not putting your head in the sand. Keep up the checks and the positive attitude. You rock.

BuFfY
19th August 2007, 21:29
Yet another follow up!
I am going in tomorrow morning to see whether the cells under the other ones are bad ones and are cancerous

I hate it how all bad things happen at pnce!! myu mum is moving to Aussie on saturday so tonight was her fairwell, god, what would I do if I had cancer and she was gone?! Jesus, I hadn't actually thought of that

hmm

let's hope I am well tomoorw

Mystery
19th August 2007, 21:51
Hey BuFfY

Good Luck at your Specialist appointment tomorrow. I hope everything is ok and he gives you some good news. I know that its easier said than done but try and stay positive. :sunny::yes:

Nasty
23rd August 2007, 18:36
How did it go Buffy? I truely have been thinking of ya :)

BuFfY
23rd August 2007, 18:48
I was quite upset on monday after my appointment.
He said that under the cells they removed they found CIN2 and 3 cells which is much worse than they expected. He said that they removed all of them and that I will just need to have another procedure in december to make sure they don't come back.
I was expecting to go in and have him say "oh it all went well, how have you been feeling" sort of thing. But he got all serious.

Thanks for the thoughts :)

Nasty
23rd August 2007, 18:51
I was quite upset on monday after my appointment.

Thanks for the thoughts :)

that is difficult .. but I am sure you are going to be fine .. my big sister went through the same thing a couple of years ago ... and I know you are just as bigger fighter as she is ;)

Scorpygirl
23rd August 2007, 18:57
Oh Buffy this is not good to hear girl. Try to keep positive, even though it's hard. Rhino and I are thinking about you.

Kia kaha

Grubber
2nd November 2007, 15:12
My ex partner suffered some of the same and ended up having major op. NO more kids to be had. Lucky for her she had already had 2 and was all ok with that. If your young i would have to say i hope it don't get that far with you.
Best of Luck:bye:

Curious_AJ
16th November 2007, 12:55
AJ loves Buffy!

MotoGirl
16th November 2007, 14:16
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Give it up Mikey. No one cares.

fireball
16th November 2007, 14:29
i just read this today....

hope you are well and things are getting better, know just how you feel im going through something similar atm......

get better eh!:hug:

Curious_AJ
17th November 2007, 20:43
i just read this today....

hope you are well and things are getting better, know just how you feel im going through something similar atm......

get better eh!:hug:

aww, hope it's nothing too serious, love!! we all hope you come right, yeah?

*hugs!*

fireball
17th November 2007, 20:47
aww, hope it's nothing too serious, love!! we all hope you come right, yeah?

*hugs!*


yes so do I going into hospital on the 4th to try work out what i actually have or dont..... scary but just another one of lives steps to overcome.....


hope you are well buffy.

BuFfY
19th November 2007, 10:13
yes so do I going into hospital on the 4th to try work out what i actually have or dont..... scary but just another one of lives steps to overcome.....


hope you are well buffy.

oh wow my next one is on the 5th!!

is freakin scary but I am trying to keep myself busy with other stuff!

best of luck to ya :)

Curious_AJ
19th November 2007, 18:13
ooh, good luck (if thats the right phase to use) for the 5th then buffy!

and also to fireball, good luck!

Grubber
26th January 2008, 14:08
No that doesn't sound too scary at all...yea WHATEVER!?!?!?!