Waaaay off topic. Das kar.

[Big Dave]

The f'nar, f'nar, f'nar, f'nar, f'nar, f'nar car.

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[justsomeguy]

Ja but it iz a Autogaytic.

[justsomeguy]

Just saw the number plate - holy mackerals Davey - you buy that?

Knew you were successful but not that successful. Mint ride

[scumdog]

It would need to lose two doors to be of interest to me.

Oh, and ditch the AU Falc'n tailights too.....

But for a modern car it looks not too bad.:yes:

[Big Dave]

Ja but it iz a Autogaytic.

You can change gears sequentially, it has integrated traction control in the auto...and have you been on the road in Auckland in a car?

[Goblin]

Some one's being paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. :whistle:

[justsomeguy]

It would need to lose two doors to be of interest to me.

The head height in the back means no adults will fit there.

[Big Dave]

Just saw the number plate - holy mackerals Davey - you buy that?

Knew you were successful but not that successful. Mint ride

no - it's a loaner - just photoshop - (and hers is nicer.) ;-P

[sidecar bob]

Some one's being paid waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. :whistle:

Someones working waaaay too hard.:yes:

[justsomeguy]

You can change gears sequentially, it has integrated traction control in the auto...and have you been on the road in Auckland in a car?

Had a sports clutch in one of my previous rides 30 mins on SH1 in normal traffic and my left calf was dead. But come SH25, 16 or 22 ....:love:

[scumdog]

no - it's a loaner - just photoshop - (and hers is nicer.) ;-P

I realised that re the number-plate - and thought how much better a job you did than Dangerous does when he 'makes-up' number plates when he posts pics of my vehicle.:yes::rofl:

[justsomeguy]

A loaner? Right --- when's the car vs. bike session?? Me iz vanting sum fotos.

[Big Dave]

The head height in the back means no adults will fit there.

It's not too bad for headroom - leg room is not great - and getting in and out of the rear door is a prob for me. Once in it's ok.

Front is magnificent. Cockpit is elegant - some things I wonder why - 30% of the instrument cluster is an analogue clock WUWT in this day and age. But it's very nice.

[Hitcher]

God, that thing is ugly. Not as ugly, mind, as a new BMW or a Ssannggggyongggg (who says the Koreans have no sense of humour?), but still something likely to appeal to people with more money than taste. Horrible.

[ZeroIndex]

OMG Big Dave sold out... was it really worth it? Think of the readers.....

[justsomeguy]

God, that thing is ugly. Not as ugly, mind, as a new BMW or a Ssannggggyongggg (who says the Koreans have no sense of humour?), but still something likely to appeal to people with more money than taste. Horrible.

What would you pick then? Of course we all assume money grows on trees, anyway what? woot?

Bloody KB huh, no one talks about bikes anymore.... now we sit around talking about cars....:dodge:

[Big Dave]

Someones working waaaay too hard.:yes:

Yes - I send my girl out to do it.

25 years of it that I know of.

Met her when she was a scrub sister, she worked all the way through raising two kids, put herself through 2 university degrees along the way and now works 60 plus a week making a difference in the private health sector.
She runs a nice car - had Mercs for 10years.

I lost all right of complaint about her cars when I bought my third motorcycle - at the time.

[Big Dave]

OMG Big Dave sold out... was it really worth it? Think of the readers.....


Everyone has a price sunshine - mine happens to be around $145,000 for a 2005 model with 30,000km on the clock.
Unfortunately my ego is writing cheques my overdraft can't cash. But it's a good game.

[Big Dave]

but still something likely to appeal to people with more money than taste. Horrible.

I tell ya - I sport wood over the looks.

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[ZeroIndex]

Everyone has a price sunshine - mine happens to be around $145,000 for a 2005 model with 30,000km on the clock.
Unfortunately my ego is writing cheques my overdraft can't afford. But its a good game.

Fair enough... at least it's not a Beemer...
Hey everyone, guess what BMW stands for? Nothing... they'll build to the cheapest specifications and charge the highest price possible
Nah, really what it means: BMW - Bring Mechanic With...

[Hitcher]

I tell ya - I sport wood over the looks.

No wonder you had trouble getting ensconced behind the wheel.

This Merc looks a bit like a silver suppository. I don't like its mean little side windows or the general balance of its panels and overall symmetry. Which disappoints me, because I am generally a huge fan of MB, which has made many truly beautiful motorcars over the years. This dildo is not one of these.

[WRT]

Why the CLS wins the Design category: Did you look at it? To us, it's a rolling metal sculpture of a racing greyhound or a thoroughbred.


This Merc looks a bit like a silver suppository.

The shape to me looks like a turd that someone has carefully squeezed out, only to have the gate involuntarily slammed shut at the last moment.

*plop*

[xwhatsit]

I heart Benz.

[xwhatsit]

In fact, Mr X hearts all German silvery things.

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[chris]

What would you pick then?
BMW M5, not a proper manual 'box, but near enough.

[SPman]

.. getting in and out of the rear door is a prob for me.


..getting in and out of any door would be a prob, nicht wahr?

[sidecar bob]

Fair enough... at least it's not a Beemer...
Hey everyone, guess what BMW stands for? Nothing... they'll build to the cheapest specifications and charge the highest price possible
Nah, really what it means: BMW - Bring Mechanic With...

Yeah, whatever zero braincells.
Dunno what you have been working at for the last 16 years but i have been running a BMW specialist garage & my opinion differs from yours, Mine however is also based on some expierence with the product.
'Onya Dave, what a machine!!!

[Big Dave]

..getting in and out of any door would be a prob, nicht wahr?

Nine (sic).
Ein Deutchlander ist gross mit die Oktoberfestenlumpen varum nicht?. - Stick That in yer Benny Hill routine.

They design stuff for MEN!. Even the Kompacts are OK up front. You want to see slapstick? - me egressing a Jaguar.

[ZeroIndex]

Yeah, whatever zero braincells.
Dunno what you have been working at for the last 16 years but i have been running a BMW specialist garage & my opinion differs from yours, Mine however is also based on some expierence with the product.
'Onya Dave, what a machine!!!

I used to live in South Africa, and the freeways were constantly littered with broken down brand new BMW's... So much that they actually created a BMW-only service of having mechanics in BMW's driving up and down the freeways 24/7 with car-attach-tow-hitches on them... that's what I base my previous post on...

[Big Dave]

Mr hitcher would be more favourably disposed to the vee hickle the silver dil-dunger relieves then?:
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Co-pilot certainly is. She wants her baby back. What can I say, grey is grey...

Have to give big ups to Coutts - the S600 has an electrical gremlin that they can't find. That is getting frustrating but the after sales service while they try again is exemplary. Ergo the silver dunger.

[SPman]

I used to live in South Africa, and the freeways were constantly littered with broken down brand new BMW's... So much that they actually created a BMW-only service of having mechanics in BMW's driving up and down the freeways 24/7 with car-attach-tow-hitches on them... that's what I base my previous post on...
Yeah - but they assembled BMWs in ZA

[Goblin]

what BMW stands for? That would be Barvarian Money Works. They can get apparell made in China for $246.84, retail it for $607.50 excluding GST, then add $538.44 GST and get away with it. or the $1751 jacket that you have to pay another $600 for the gortex liner. If it has a BMW logo it will be overpriced!
Or as my son says...Black Man's Willy! :laugh:

[Big Dave]

I've never 'connected' with a BMW the way I have the the Mercs. Size thing probably.

If I was to choose myself a car I'd try and find a 1969 Monaro in good condition and fully restore it to showroom.

Drop in a sound system and job done.

[sidecar bob]

That would be Barvarian Money Works. They can get apparell made in China for $246.84, retail it for $607.50 excluding GST, then add $538.44 GST and get away with it. or the $1751 jacket that you have to pay another $600 for the gortex liner. If it has a BMW logo it will be overpriced!
Or as my son says...Black Man's Willy! :laugh:

Yeah, but what you forgot to tell us is that regardless of all that, they were in fact generous enough to give you all that product for free.
Kinda weird that you are so angry at being given it all.

[Goblin]

Yeah, but what you forgot to tell us is that regardless of all that, they were in fact generous enough to give you all that product for free.
Kinda weird that you are so angry at being given it all.Hey I won 3k worth of gear fair and square! Doesnt change the fact that anything with a BMW logo on it is wickedly overpriced does it.
If sending a "lucky" winner on an emotional rollercoaster is their idea of generosity then I am ever so greatful!

[sidecar bob]

I spend aprox $50 to $60,000 per year on BMW spare parts & would say they invaribly represent great value for money, especially when compared to the equivalent component from say, Ford or Subaru.
I am happy to accept that there are other opinions, this however is mine.

[Goblin]

I spend aprox $50 to $60,000 per year on BMW spare parts & would say they invaribly represent great value for money, especially when compared to the equivalent component from say, Ford or Subaru.
I am happy to accept that there are other opinions, this however is mine.I know you find BMW very profitable and good onya! You already know my opinion of BMW NZ.

[Goblin]

I've never 'connected' with a BMW the way I have the the Mercs. Size thing probably.

If I was to choose myself a car I'd try and find a 1969 Monaro in good condition and fully restore it to showroom.

Drop in a sound system and job done.
I cant say I've ever 'connected' with any car, unless you count the bruce mcintyre incident. A car to me is a just means of moving kids and things. However I have "connected" with every bike I ever rode. All of them. And there's been a few!

[Big Dave]

I cant say I've ever 'connected' with any car,

EH wagon with Torana chromies and an 8-track. 1976.

[MisterD]

I've never 'connected' with a BMW the way I have the the Mercs.


You should be a Greek taxi driver....the most uncomfortable, agricultural motor I've ever had the misfortune to drive, and yes, that includes that first-of-the-line Vauxhall Vectra I had.

[justsomeguy]

Fair enough... at least it's not a Beemer...
Hey everyone, guess what BMW stands for? Nothing... they'll build to the cheapest specifications and charge the highest price possible
Nah, really what it means: BMW - Bring Mechanic With...

Find one of them, go take it for a loooong proper drive down a twisty road and get back to me.

[peasea]

It would need to lose two doors to be of interest to me.

Oh, and ditch the AU Falc'n tailights too.....

But for a modern car it looks not too bad.:yes:

The whole thing looks like an AU and therefore is only slightly less ugly than my bum.

[sidecar bob]

The whole thing looks like an AU and therefore is only slightly less ugly than my bum.

Oh dear, dosent jealousy really bring out the worst in people.
Sorry Dave, but i think its absolute fucking porn. :yes::niceone:

[Big Dave]

Oh dear, dosent jealousy really bring out the worst in people.
Sorry Dave, but i think its absolute fucking porn. :yes::niceone:

All good - its a place for opinions - It's just Ford v Holden and all that and I didn't have any 2-wheeled conversation starters.

I would be more inclined to think that the AU looked like the merc than vice versa but carry on.

[scumdog]

Oh dear, dosent jealousy really bring out the worst in people.
Sorry Dave, but i think its absolute fucking porn. :yes::niceone:

Yer easy pleased.

Even if it DID have the "Blue Oval" I dson't think I'd have it - except to trade on what I really want, jealous I ain't..

[Big Dave]

Yer easy pleased.

Even if it DID have the "Blue Oval" I dson't think I'd have it - except to trade on what I really want, jealous I ain't..

OK - you've just got $120K - what?

[Ghost_Bullet]

Oh boy, the car looks ok between the wheel centres, but either side of that, front and tail are just nasty... needs a complete re work on the lines...

[sidecar bob]

Yer easy pleased.

Even if it DID have the "Blue Oval" I dson't think I'd have it - except to trade on what I really want, jealous I ain't..

Tell me what you want, what you really really want. & dont say a spice girls CD.

[SARGE]

The head height in the back means no adults will fit there.

lucky for you... get the back seat all to yourself ....:dodge:

[Big Dave]

Tell me what you want, what you really really want. & dont say a spice girls CD.

See Geri Haliwell naked in that fame ripoff film clip?

[Big Dave]

lucky for you... get the back seat all to yourself ....:dodge:

You could actually fit 8 of him on the back seat.

[scumdog]

Tell me what you want, what you really really want. & dont say a spice girls CD.

Nothing flash - maybe a '63 Galaxie with a 427 (with tri-pack) and four-speed, of course I guess the Merc would only just pay for it if I were lucky...

[SARGE]

jeeze Dave .. for that kinda dosh.....

[SARGE]

You could actually fit 8 of him on the back seat.

and 493 in the ashtray :dodge:

[Big Dave]

jeeze Dave .. for that kinda dosh.....

we're talking pacific pesos - that one starts with a 5.

[SARGE]

we're talking pacific pesos - that one starts with a 5.

SO GO GET A JOB YA SLACKER ..
:dodge:

[Big Dave]

SO GO GET A JOB YA SLACKER ..
:dodge:

And ruin a good career. Pig's arse.

[peasea]

Oh dear, dosent jealousy really bring out the worst in people.
Sorry Dave, but i think its absolute fucking porn. :yes::niceone:

Bollocks, it's plain ugly and that's that. Too many doors for starters, it MIGHT look better as a coupe but I doubt it. Anything that even remotely resembles an AU is ugly.

I have no idea what those Mercedes pigs retail for but if I had that wad in my pocket I'd be chatting up an Aston dealer, even it was just a deposit.

[sidecar bob]

Bollocks, it's plain ugly and that's that. Too many doors for starters, it MIGHT look better as a coupe but I doubt it. Anything that even remotely resembles an AU is ugly.

I have no idea what those Mercedes pigs retail for but if I had that wad in my pocket I'd be chatting up an Aston dealer, even it was just a deposit.

So, what im getting from all this is that Fords are butt ugly, & i fully agree.
My opinion is based on the whole driving/owning expierence of cars like this, not just merely what sort of car it vaguely looks like.

[Hitcher]

Mr hitcher would be more favourably disposed to the vee hickle the silver dil-dunger relieves then?

More favourably, yes. But that one looks a bit too sedanish, given the beast that lies within. MB sports coupes are more my "thing", dating wayyyy back. It's not often their designers have buggered up one of those.

[Hitcher]

Apart from a couple of GTHO models in the 1970s, Ford Australia has yet to build a truly great car. The Falcon is really nothing more than an elaborate hoax: a shamelessly recycled bit of late 1960s kit that Ford has managed to squeeze about 40 years of sales out of. Do they still come with a banjo rear axle, bench front seat, and three-speed column shifter? It must be demoralising when you're part of a marketing department (Fords) that has to wring nearly 10 years out of every model change while your major competitor (Holden) seems to be able to get out a fresh model every two or three. Not to mention running a "touring" car that wouldn't be competitive unless the rules were stacked in your favour.