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sunhuntin
5th July 2007, 20:29
i got rushed by a dog today for the first time. 3 tramps/easy lays were leaning on the power transformer over the road. saw one dog cross the road as i got the bike out. i waited till it reached the path before moving out. as i got onto the road, another dog shot out from the other side. all i saw was dark brown fur and white teeth. heard it bark too.
both the girls and the first dog had been spotted at the HNZ house this morning. [which is directly across the road] the first dog has been seen there a few times.
i called the ranger, left a message, and he never called back. my street is mainly all elderly people, with some small kids. most of us have cats. if a dog was gonna go for me, itll go for anything. luckily i pulled out faster than usual, otherwise, it would have had my foot.
when i got to work, i had a think, and maybe should have lashed out with my foot, but i think it would have done more damage to me than it. how the hell does one practise to kick a fast moving target? i will be keeping an eye on the house from now on...
Dunno what to do about the dogs themselves, but from experience, avoid them at all times, you will most likely crash, even tho your bike is much bigger than most dogs.
Colapop
5th July 2007, 20:35
All elderly people except for the Mobsters across the road???
jafar
5th July 2007, 20:43
i got rushed by a dog today for the first time. 3 tramps/easy lays were leaning on the power transformer over the road. saw one dog cross the road as i got the bike out. i waited till it reached the path before moving out. as i got onto the road, another dog shot out from the other side. all i saw was dark brown fur and white teeth. heard it bark too.
both the girls and the first dog had been spotted at the HNZ house this morning. [which is directly across the road] the first dog has been seen there a few times.
i called the ranger, left a message, and he never called back. my street is mainly all elderly people, with some small kids. most of us have cats. if a dog was gonna go for me, itll go for anything. luckily i pulled out faster than usual, otherwise, it would have had my foot.
when i got to work, i had a think, and maybe should have lashed out with my foot, but i think it would have done more damage to me than it. how the hell does one practise to kick a fast moving target? i will be keeping an eye on the house from now on...
Best cure for the dog is to hit fast with a cage, doesn't hurt you @ all & the dog learns a valuable lesson :Punk:
NotaGoth
5th July 2007, 20:45
Funny.. You beat me to starting a thread about this...
Where I live you have to drive/ride down a rather steep hill...
I haven't managed to take my bike out to my house yet.. Why..????? I'm too scared....
Why..???
Because of a dog...
It already waits, runs out and starts trying to attack the tyres on mums car.. And I really don't wanna think what it could do if it managed to knock me off my bike.. *has shit fuck all riding experience* so that could be quite easily done.... I could do alot of damage to myself and my bike.. All because someones to half arsed to keep their mutt under control..
What would be the best option... Approach owners of said animal.. putting across your concerns... Possibly have an understanding response, and a change in the situation.... Or..... Risk having a flame of abuse hurled in my general direction...
Or...
Would you ring up the local council or dog control officer and let them know about the danger this dog risks to road users..?
Really.. What rights do you have..??
The animal is obviously not under control.. And dangerous..
Or would you just say "harden up" ride past with fingers crossed hoping it doesn't manage to latch onto your leg or bike tyre..?
sunhuntin
5th July 2007, 20:49
All elderly people except for the Mobsters across the road???
pretty much. their house and the one next door are rentals. young guys in the rental. my parents and our immediate neighbours would be among the youngest, ranging 30s to 60s. everyone else is older. 2 lots of granny flats down the road, and a rest home 10 mins away. two side roads are filled with bad buggers, but they keep to themselves.
theres also a daycare and 2 primary schools... just a good thing its holidays, otherwise a kid might have been got this afternoon.
drew... yeh, that sounds like the best plan. wasnt sure if the other dog would come and join the rusher or not.
kittie... id go for the dog ranger, depending on what kind of person the owner is.
jafar... good idea if i knew how to drive. plus, itd be me charged instead.
Big Dave
5th July 2007, 20:51
If your dog so much as farts in Akl you get a visit from animal control.
I would be rarking them up (animal control) point out the danger to the elderly - and if no satisfaction - police them MP.
98tls
5th July 2007, 20:54
Easy...............pay out for a couple of steaks......wander down the street with said steak wafting........mmmmm.......do it just on darkness with a your riding gear on.......have a couple of bolt bombs made up....when there munching let em go.....never will they bother you again.
xwhatsit
5th July 2007, 20:59
If your dog so much as farts in Akl you get a visit from animal control.
<hints id="hah_hints"></hints>That's why I love living here, it's great.
Funnily enough there's a bit in the Road Code about it (and I got a question on my scratch & win too). Dogs go nuts for bikes for some reason; anyway, what the Road Code says to do is to slow down as you approach it to maybe 10kph, then accelerate away fast as you get alongside it. Going at normal speed they don't get out of your way apparently.
Sounds nuts, but it works -- I can confirm this and so can others. Give it a shot.
I'd ring the council anyway. Probably stinks and carries diseases anyway.
NotaGoth
5th July 2007, 21:03
This one likes front tyres.. Not really fair to have to play "dodge the dog"
ynot slow
5th July 2007, 21:13
Go and buy a bb gun,it fires little plastic balls,harmless (unless you get hit in ass close),in car if dog trots beside you wind window down and shoot pellet at it,aim for head,won't hurt it but if you get it a couple of times they piss off,will give a yelp.Bit better than shotgun lol.Mind you wait till dark as you don't want armed defenders squad visiting.Used this technique with dogs coming onto our last home,mind you our cat liked attacking them too,hide up tree and pounce on their backs and claw like crap,bloody funny to watch.
jafar
5th July 2007, 21:14
jafar... good idea if i knew how to drive. plus, itd be me charged instead.
Not so, if you hit an animal(dog) thats on the road you won't get charged. You have to report it thats all.:innocent:
If you hit a cat you don't need to report the strike @ all
Chasing it round the street & over the footpaths is a different story though.:dodge:
Curious_AJ
6th July 2007, 01:05
dang... i reckon dog control could work.. yet if they belong to people, people should learn to take better care of their bloody dogs!!
I'm sick of farters who dont take care of their animals and then wonder why they go around biting people and attacking cars/bikes/ any small children..
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 01:11
HAHAHA, I have the answer... I did this ages ago when I was working at DX Mail riding a CT110... When the dog comes running up, you just pull your leg back, and gently move it towards the dogs face/nose... because your bike will be moving, moving your leg gently will allow you to 'aim' better, while still having the speed of your bike, acting as the force behind kicking the dog...
That dog chased me a few times, and the first time that I actually went to kick it (and luckily landed it the first time), was the last time the dog chased me... I saw the dog the next few days afterwards, but it seemed vary wary of me, and in no mood to run out onto the road. Lessen well learnt little doogie
Curious_AJ
6th July 2007, 01:15
kicking dogs is sad too... shouldnt be done.
I know they may be running after you.. but a bike goes faster than a dog... the dog will tire eventually... if not, get some mace or something...
scumdog
6th July 2007, 01:18
Waterpistol filled with lemon juice - works but no guarantees mind!
A silenced 22 works even better, just throw the corpse at the side of the nearest motorway, it'll soon disappear......
swbarnett
6th July 2007, 01:19
Dogs go nuts for bikes for some reason
Because a bike is roughly the same size as traditional prey for dogs (Hyena and Wildebeest calf for example).
approach it to maybe 10kph, then accelerate away fast as you get alongside it. Going at normal speed they don't get out of your way apparently.
Slowing down means your challenging the dog so they stand their ground while you go past. Normal speed means you're trying to escape and they'll instinctively try to cut you off.
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 01:29
kicking dogs is sad too... shouldnt be done.
I know they may be running after you.. but a bike goes faster than a dog... the dog will tire eventually... if not, get some mace or something...
Cruelty to an animal is bad I agree, but kick a dog once, and it will learn... Isn't it better for a dog to run away scared than get run over by a car because people just ignored the dog?
swbarnett
6th July 2007, 01:29
kicking dogs is sad too... shouldnt be done.
I know they may be running after you.. but a bike goes faster than a dog... the dog will tire eventually... if not, get some mace or something...
Usually the dog is on an intercept course and your speed is of no help.
Is mace any kinder? A kick is a lot easier on the dog than being run over (the inevitable fate of a dog that isn't taught a lesson).
Once on a bicycle I managed to out bark a dog and it went away whimpering.
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 01:30
Because a bike is roughly the same size as traditional prey for dogs (Hyena and Wildebeest calf for example).
Slowing down means your challenging the dog so they stand their ground while you go past. Normal speed means you're trying to escape and they'll instinctively try to cut you off.
a kick at about 30kph will learn a dog nicely...
hold the handle bars ridgid and hit the dog square on you will probably go over it but on the chance you come off the owners will be liable for the dammage caused to your bike..but if your lucky enough to kill it (hitting it at about 50kph will probably do depending what kind of dog and where you run over it.. over the rib cage is the most reccomended place as its a gaunenteed kill and its painless for the dog) then it will solve your dog problem permanently with that dog
kevfromcoro
6th July 2007, 05:50
heres a couple of tips on hitting dogs..dogs like chasing bikes when you 1st take off.a big dog will keep up with a small bike for some time.the boot works well at low speeds,, if u are getting cased by a regular rover.and getting a bit worried..airhorns sometimes work well.also a deterent..water pistol with water an chili..go for the rear..if all shit happens and you are doing to hit one,hang on tight try an hit it square on.its a bit like running over a sack of wet sand.chances are you may stay on..i lived in asia for sometime..where dogs were a constant worry..missus had a nifty 50 thing..2 up it wasnt very fast.outside was the biggest doberman i have seen..had legs like a racehorse.he was after my arse..right or wrong.he would c me coming and he would get into the canter mode .then the case was on. he could keep up with scooter for ages.now there was a worry..never did get me. here is another quike tip..sometime i would strike the students on ther way to uni..when stopped at a red light there could be hundreds of scooters.if u c a pack of dogs get in the middle of the riders and stay as far right as u can..safe as houses..good luck KEV
Waterpistol filled with lemon juice - works but no guarantees mind!A silenced 22 works even better, just throw the corpse at the side of the nearest motorway, it'll soon disappear......
winner.
2 days into the proud ownership of my first big bike, I was rushed by a dog, and due to the circumstances, was not able to speed or slow in a hurry, so I swung the boot out, and collected the dog, which tumbled many times, and landed in a heap in the gutter. I stopped, and so did the car behind me. The guy behind was a plain clothes cop, who upon seeing what appeared to be the dogs owner running up the street yelling blue murder, started taking my details, which I thought was a bit scummy.
The owner got level with us and the cop said very loudly "so do you want to press charges Mr Kro", and I realised he was on my side. I rode off with my good mate "Scott Free", and I assume the dog owner got the real bollocking
deanohit
6th July 2007, 08:37
HAHAHA, I have the answer... I did this ages ago when I was working at DX Mail riding a CT110... When the dog comes running up, you just pull your leg back, and gently move it towards the dogs face/nose... because your bike will be moving, moving your leg gently will allow you to 'aim' better, while still having the speed of your bike, acting as the force behind kicking the dog...
That dog chased me a few times, and the first time that I actually went to kick it (and luckily landed it the first time), was the last time the dog chased me... I saw the dog the next few days afterwards, but it seemed vary wary of me, and in no mood to run out onto the road. Lessen well learnt little doogie
I did somthing like that a few days ago with a dog round here. Bloody lab ran out of driveway a few times over a week and chased me for a good 100 metres in a 50 zone by school, so slow through there. Gave the dog a knock with my steel toe, a week later, I've seen the dog everyday just sitting in the drive watching me.
gunnyrob
6th July 2007, 08:49
Cleanest & quickest way to get rid of them as a last resort is a couple of steaks laced with rat poison. My ex-flatmate did this in Bulls to good effect. Nasty, but problem sorted.:shifty:
kevfromcoro
6th July 2007, 08:52
Cleanest & quickest way to get rid of them as a last resort is a couple of steaks laced with rat poison. My ex-flatmate did this in Bulls to good effect. Nasty, but problem sorted.:shifty:
i have heard a bar of energy chocolate does it..anyone know anything about this??
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 09:11
i have heard a bar of energy chocolate does it..anyone know anything about this??
Never even thought about that... thanks :yes:
deanohit
6th July 2007, 09:21
Once on a bicycle I managed to out bark a dog and it went away whimpering.
Nice one mate. I used to growl at my dog to let him no I wasnt happy with him, worked alot faster than yelling at him, 1 good growl and his tail was down & he was trying to be your best budd.
Deano
6th July 2007, 09:39
Cleanest & quickest way to get rid of them as a last resort is a couple of steaks laced with rat poison. My ex-flatmate did this in Bulls to good effect. Nasty, but problem sorted.:shifty:
If you're serious - You suck arse.
As does anyone else advocating injuring the dog.
A dog is only as clever as it's owner and the way it has been trained.
So leave the effing dog alone and go to the source of the problem...the effing owner.
vifferman
6th July 2007, 09:49
You need to stop this behaviour, as soon as possible. The dog's owner shouldn't be letting it roam free, for a start, but regardless of this, it IS out, and it all boils down to dog psychology. The dog is instinctively chasing you because you look like you're running away. Every time you do this, it reinforces this. Also, I discovered from walking past a house with a dog everyday, that dog's don't like dark clothes! If I wore light-coloured clothes, the dog ignored me, but it barked and ran at me if I wore dark trousers! I think that's part of the reason they attack posties, as their uniform in most countries is dark (and threatening?)
At the moment, you are the victim (or from the dog's point of view, the prey or underdog). Also, if it's new to the area, it may be trying to establish or defend a territory. You need to reverse this, by letting the dog know you are NOT its prey, and/or are bigger and meaner than it, and it's your turf.
It's up to you how much you hurt it; personally, I love dogs, but I also know that anything that doesn't injure the dog is OK in dog terms. (As long as it doesn't make the owners go mental - human psychology is much more complicated than the canine variety).
If instead of swerving and trying to get away from the dog, you slow/stop and win the confrontation by intimidation (rushing at it, or just getting off the bike may do it), shock, pain (a squirt of something like soapy water or lemon juice in the face is a goodun), or all of these things, then it's done, and it shouldn't bother you again.
imdying
6th July 2007, 09:56
Get a glass bottle, smash it into little pieces, mix that with some mince. Biff the dog a few meatballs. It'll die a horrible, probably quite noisy, painful death. But it won't chase your bike again. Or anything else for that matter.
NinjaNanna
6th July 2007, 10:00
Funny.. You beat me to starting a thread about this...
Where I live you have to drive/ride down a rather steep hill...
I haven't managed to take my bike out to my house yet.. Why..????? I'm too scared....
Why..???
Because of a dog...
It already waits, runs out and starts trying to attack the tyres on mums car.. And I really don't wanna think what it could do if it managed to knock me off my bike.. *has shit fuck all riding experience* so that could be quite easily done.... I could do alot of damage to myself and my bike.. All because someones to half arsed to keep their mutt under control..
What would be the best option... Approach owners of said animal.. putting across your concerns... Possibly have an understanding response, and a change in the situation.... Or..... Risk having a flame of abuse hurled in my general direction...
Or...
Would you ring up the local council or dog control officer and let them know about the danger this dog risks to road users..?
Really.. What rights do you have..??
The animal is obviously not under control.. And dangerous..
Or would you just say "harden up" ride past with fingers crossed hoping it doesn't manage to latch onto your leg or bike tyre..?
Write them an anonymous letter and post it, after all you do know their address, raise your concerns and state that you wished to give them the opportuntity to remedy before going to the authorities.
Try not to give away any personal details as you don't want any sort of negative behavior.
ALSO DO NOT TELL ANYBODY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO WRITE A LETTER OF COMPLAINT, ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT IN ANY NEIGHBOURHOOD A SECRET IS NOT A SECRET IF EVEN ONE OTHER PERSON KNOWS WHAT YOU DID!!!
swbarnett
6th July 2007, 10:05
So leave the effing dog alone and go to the source of the problem...the effing owner.
The only time I think most of us would advocate any kind of physical violence towards a dog would be if it's a choice of that or having a major bin because it ends up under the bike. And even then only "reasonable force" i.e. that which is required to avoid an accident.
vifferman
6th July 2007, 10:08
Get a glass bottle, smash it into little pieces, mix that with some mince. Biff the dog a few meatballs. It'll die a horrible, probably quite noisy, painful death. But it won't chase your bike again. Or anything else for that matter.
That's unfair, cruel, and unnecessary.:nono:
In the final analysis, it's NOT the dog's fault. It's just being a dog, and doing what dog's do.
scumdog
6th July 2007, 10:11
If you're serious - You suck arse.
As does anyone else advocating injuring the dog.
A dog is only as clever as it's owner and the way it has been trained.
So leave the effing dog alone and go to the source of the problem...the effing owner.
Well, if I could get away with shooting the dogs owner instead of the dog I would but there's kind of, you know, laws against that sort of thing....
imdying
6th July 2007, 10:20
That's unfair, cruel, and unnecessary.:nono:
In the final analysis, it's NOT the dog's fault. It's just being a dog, and doing what dog's do.Yep, dogs have owners, owners are obliged to control them, we should do it to the owners instead then :yes:
shafty
6th July 2007, 10:42
Feed it some steak marinated in Brasso
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 11:10
Feed it some steak marinated in Brasso
or feed it some peanut butter... maybe put a bunch on your boot...
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Deano
6th July 2007, 11:32
Well, if I could get away with shooting the dogs owner instead of the dog I would but there's kind of, you know, laws against that sort of thing....
So let the law take it's course with the dog's owner.
I'm all for kicking a dog away from my front wheel to avoid a crash, but some of the responses in here are either piss takes or the posters are just arseholes.
I'mdying - you should know better !!
Patrick
6th July 2007, 11:43
and so did the car behind me. The guy behind was a plain clothes cop, who upon seeing what appeared to be the dogs owner running up the street yelling blue murder, started taking my details, which I thought was a bit scummy.
Scumdog is a "D?"
jrandom
6th July 2007, 11:50
Why do people wring their hands over this stuff?
If a dog's running loose and wreaking havoc, give the owners one warning to keep it locked up and under control. Be polite, explain yourself, don't yell at them. It's amazing what a bit of verbal judo can accomplish.
If they're really stupid and the dog does it again, shoot it and chuck it over the fence.
It's just a dog. Don't be cruel to it, but don't behave as though it's a misbehaving human child, either.
Patrick
6th July 2007, 11:53
At work, I have to park behind the parking spot for the Police dogs and one of them just goes off big time at motorbikes, the others are OK. The one that goes off makes the entire van rock.
If it was out and about and decided I was lunch, a kick is only inviting it to bite what is presented, namely one leg. They could quite easily pull you off your bike...
janno
6th July 2007, 11:54
i have heard a bar of energy chocolate does it..anyone know anything about this??
Dark chocolate (70% cocoa solids) is fatally toxic to small dogs only, as in a Yorkie or mini Poodle. Otherwise it just makes 'em puke.
As we found out on Christmas morning when my Border Terrier had eaten the Terry's Chocolate Orange under the tree overnight . . . :sick:
Dilligaf
6th July 2007, 11:59
At work, I have to park behind the parking spot for the Police dogs and one of them just goes off big time at motorbikes, the others are OK. The one that goes off makes the entire van rock.
If it was out and about and decided I was lunch, a kick is only inviting it to bite what is presented, namely one leg. They could quite easily pull you off your bike...
Well I have not been pulled off a bike but I have been taken off the back of a bike by a kamikaze animal who decided to jump between me and hubby who was driving....:shit:
kevfromcoro
6th July 2007, 12:23
If instead of swerving and trying to get away from the dog, you slow/stop and win the confrontation by intimidation (rushing at it, or just getting off the bike may do it), shock, pain (a squirt of something like soapy water or lemon juice in the face is a goodun), or all of these things, then it's done, and it shouldn't bother you again.[/QUOTE]
u havent ridden asia have ya..i wouldnt get of the bike. with those dogs over there...be like throwing a lamb to the wolves...
vifferman
6th July 2007, 12:28
If it was out and about and decided I was lunch, a kick is only inviting it to bite what is presented, namely one leg.
Hmmm... that's a point.
If these "3 tramps/easy lays" have been feeding their dog bits of motorcyclist, maybe offering it a fresh gift-wrapped leg wouldn't be a good idea...
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 12:51
At work, I have to park behind the parking spot for the Police dogs and one of them just goes off big time at motorbikes, the others are OK. The one that goes off makes the entire van rock.
If it was out and about and decided I was lunch, a kick is only inviting it to bite what is presented, namely one leg. They could quite easily pull you off your bike...
With enough peanut butter on your boot, you'd get a laugh out of it though... :killingme
I'm gonna make some peanut-butter trousers... Come and get me dogs :p
Deano
6th July 2007, 13:00
If they're really stupid and the dog does it again, shoot it and chuck it over the fence.
It's just a dog. Don't be cruel to it, but don't behave as though it's a misbehaving human child, either.
Why punish/destroy a dumb animal because of it's even dumber owner.
You suck arse.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many people see the solution to an animal problem is to KILL it.
Humans are the problem. We encroach on animals natural habitats, we domesticate animals and then don't take proper care of them. Leave the bloody animals alone.
Big Dave
6th July 2007, 13:09
Fuk - now we're poisoning dogs?
Post the details of the street, a description of the dogs and find the number for animal control in wanganui and I'll ring and make a complaint -
Hi, my name is...
I'm ringing on behalf of a friend....
She is having a problem with uncontrolled dogs at....
She believes it to be a dangerous situation. Please give it your urgent attention.
if a dozen of us do - I bet they get the message.
sunhuntin
6th July 2007, 18:13
Fuk - now we're poisoning dogs?
Post the details of the street, a description of the dogs and find the number for animal control in wanganui and I'll ring and make a complaint -
Hi, my name is...
I'm ringing on behalf of a friend....
She is having a problem with uncontrolled dogs at.... 79 nixon street
She believes it to be a dangerous situation. Please give it your urgent attention.
if a dozen of us do - I bet they get the message.
thats an idea, BD. i wish the dogs no harm. the skinny one appears to be fine, just underfed. its the big one that worries me. i would like to see that one removed from the "owners" and brought back to being a good dog. its not the dogs fault that the owners are wankers.
i still havent heard from the rangers... mum thinks take it to the papers next. maybe i should have said i thought it was a pitty? the lays and the skinny dog were there again when i got home, but no sign of the big one. when i went back to shut the gate, they had all gone inside.
might have to start wearing my steel caps to work, just in case i do manage to somehow aim at it.
Ring the authorities!!!!!!!
This is a no-brainer, I would not hesitate if I had the dog rushes out to bite me thing..........
I once worked for a sparky who had a Blue Heeler.......he warned me she was sharp, once I had been there (I worked from his home office) she would know me and that would be ok.....and it was......she never got off her bed to say hello most days, until I arrived on my bike......, I kicked her HARD!!!!!!!! as she was intent in biting my leg off! Bugger that for a game of soldiers.
GTG thunder and stuff here!
swbarnett
6th July 2007, 18:23
removed from the "owners" and brought back to being a good dog.
If the dog is removed it will most probably go to the SPCA and get euthanised when they can't find a new home.
sunhuntin
6th July 2007, 18:25
yeh, mom, i figured the cops have got better things to do than chase up something the dog rangers should be doing. useless tossers. if it happens again, ill be ringing them, though. dog rangers have had their chance to fix this.
they were quick to jump when one of our dogs got accused of attacking an old woman... but our dogs are behind 2 meter high gates and are too lazy to jump, never mind jump and not get spiked!
barnett... still better than said dog attacking a kid and still getting killed. at least if its removed while "innocent" itll have a chance at rehab.
MidnightMike
6th July 2007, 18:27
how the hell does one practise to kick a fast moving target?
Isnt that what cars are for?:shifty:
flame
6th July 2007, 18:31
Why punish/destroy a dumb animal because of it's even dumber owner.
You suck arse.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many people see the solution to an animal problem is to KILL it.
Humans are the problem. We encroach on animals natural habitats, we domesticate animals and then don't take proper care of them. Leave the bloody animals alone.
I see your point, however, unfortunately there are many owners that unwillingly don't have the ability to control there dogs. Also....dogs react on instinct alone. They do not 'reason" as we humans can. I see it nearly everyday. Dogs we put down because they have bitten an owner or family member because they havn't been handled correctly. You'd be horrified by the amount of (dare I say it but it's fact) Pitt Bull owners that will NOT hold their own dog for an examination in fear that their own dog will attack them. These dogs which are not under control are dangerous to everybody. Just last week I helped euthanase a dog because it tryed to attack the owners wife. While the owner tried to fend off his own dog it attacked and bit him, then continued on to attack and severely bite the wife. Saying it's no fault of the dog is not always right, they are a preditor animal inwhich we as humans try to 'humanify'. Any dog which shows dominant vicious behavoiur is only working off instinct. Something that we humans can never take away, but try to control, when this control is out of hand, in my mind their is only one option....Humane destruction.
My 5c worth :)
NotaGoth
6th July 2007, 18:49
If you're serious - You suck arse.
As does anyone else advocating injuring the dog.
A dog is only as clever as it's owner and the way it has been trained.
So leave the effing dog alone and go to the source of the problem...the effing owner.
Agreed...
*would never intentionally hurt the dog*
But... On another note when in mums car, I will NOT put myself at risk by swerving to miss it..
janno
6th July 2007, 18:57
You'd be horrified by the amount of (dare I say it but it's fact) Pitt Bull owners that will NOT hold their own dog for an examination in fear that their own dog will attack them. These dogs are dangerous to everybody. Just last week I helped euthanase a dog because it tryed to attack the owners wife.
My 5c worth :)
Good on you for being honest about this.
An aquaintance has a pitty for "protection" and gets furious when you make any remarks about pit bulls and temperments. However, she can barely control the poor thing ie, basic things like getting the bitch to lie down quietly when visitors come, or heel off the lead on the beach.
I'm still undecided about the "can't be trusted" tag though, rather maybe they are a breed that requires a highly experienced dog trainer for an owner?
Just as you wouldn't put a learner rider on an open eventer or racehorse - or even let them handle it. Would be tears and injuries all round.
Good intentions only go so far. You need the handling experience for highly strung horses and dogs, IMHO.
run it over and eat it for dinner! marinate it in soya sauce and garlic and apply kiwifruit on top as it makes it more tender, cook it in a stir fry with a combination of vegys and rice and cook it in bbq sauce... tasty
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 19:08
run it over and eat it for dinner! marinate it in soya sauce and garlic and apply kiwifruit on top as it makes it more tender, cook it in a stir fry with a combination of vegys and rice and cook it in bbq sauce... tasty
Or take it to your local chinese takeaway and see how much they will give you for it...
flame
6th July 2007, 19:14
An aquaintance has a pitty for "protection" and gets furious when you make any remarks about pit bulls and temperments. However, she can barely control the poor thing ie, basic things like getting the bitch to lie down quietly when visitors come, or heel off the lead on the beach.
Just as you wouldn't put a learner rider on an open eventer or racehorse - or even let them handle it. Would be tears and injuries all round.
Good intentions only go so far. You need the handling experience for highly strung horses and dogs, IMHO.
So true! Ive met some absolutely beautiful natured Pitt Bulls, love ya to death they would. Ive even owned one myself. However......in the wrong hands and incorrectely trained they can be as lethal as a loaded shotgun in the hands of a two year old. Because on the other hand....Ive seen a 7 year old girl with approx 70 stitches in her face and arm after her dads dog attacked her. No child deserves to be put through that for the sake of a pet.....a pet is meant to be a pleasure, not pain.
Or take it to your local chinese takeaway and see how much they will give you for it...
they might give you more as its already tenderised lol no point wasteing good meat
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 19:18
they might give you more as its already tenderised lol
Watch right to the end... (NWS) if you don't manage to sell your 'dog' at one shop, try another... with practice, you shall become a great door-to-door salesman...
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Watch right to the end... (NWS) if you don't manage to sell your 'dog' at one shop, try another... with practice, you shall become a great door-to-door salesman...
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man that guy is fucking rude im suprised no one has given him a beating altho im sure dog aint that bad
ZeroIndex
6th July 2007, 19:35
man that guy is fucking rude im suprised no one has given him a beating altho im sure dog aint that bad
YouTube the rest of his videos "The Amazing Racist"... he almost gets beaten a couple of times - See KKK...
kevfromcoro
6th July 2007, 20:46
Or take it to your local chinese takeaway and see how much they will give you for it...
jeez mate..just read throught the thread,,cant stop laughing.iam of to asia soon..mayebe we could set up an export ,import bussines...
breakaway
6th July 2007, 21:12
but kick a dog once,
You kick my dog?
Sorry, it had to be done.
In other news, I would kick a dog without hesitation. As hard as I could. I've been chased by two dogs before, at the same time. One of them had a go at me and ripped a huge hole in my pants. Didn't break skin though. It wasn't fun.
The only time I think most of us would advocate any kind of physical violence towards a dog would be if it's a choice of that or having a major bin because it ends up under the bike. And even then only "reasonable force" i.e. that which is required to avoid an accident.
Bling awarded.
ZeroIndex
7th July 2007, 00:27
You kick my dog?
Sorry, it had to be done.
In other news, I would kick a dog without hesitation. As hard as I could. I've been chased by two dogs before, at the same time. One of them had a go at me and ripped a huge hole in my pants. Didn't break skin though. It wasn't fun.
Bling awarded.
yes i kick your dog, and i'm keeping your newspaper too...
i need something to read while i go 'dirt' on your lawn
swbarnett
7th July 2007, 03:00
barnett... still better than said dog attacking a kid and still getting killed. at least if its removed while "innocent" itll have a chance at rehab.
Agreed, just wanted to put the point that there is really no perfect ending in a lot of cases for a troublesome dog.
swbarnett
7th July 2007, 03:06
barnett... still better than said dog attacking a kid and still getting killed. at least if its removed while "innocent" itll have a chance at rehab.
Agreed, just wanted to put the point that there is really no perfect ending in a lot of cases for a troublesome dog.
scumdog
7th July 2007, 10:42
Agreed, just wanted to put the point that there is really no perfect ending in a lot of cases for a troublesome dog.
Repost!:dodge::lol:
Patrick
7th July 2007, 12:45
Nah... it was an echo....
avgas
7th July 2007, 13:35
better to kick out rather than swing a kick, however this is tricky as you unbalance yourself. Did it to car door once and never want to do it again.
But if you swing you effectively hit your foot on the object with the combined speed, ever kicked a fencepost at 200k? my friend tried at a slower speed (70 + kick speed), and broke his ankle.
better to kick out rather than swing a kick, however this is tricky as you unbalance yourself. Did it to car door once and never want to do it again.
But if you swing you effectively hit your foot on the object with the combined speed, ever kicked a fencepost at 200k? my friend tried at a slower speed (70 + kick speed), and broke his ankle.
yeah i kicked a road cone at 70k it fucking hurt
ZeroIndex
7th July 2007, 15:48
yeah i kicked a road cone at 70k it fucking hurt
Last time I kicked a road cone with normal shoes, the cone wrapped around my shoe and pulled it off... rode the next 3km home without a left shoe... my foot was cold.
swbarnett
7th July 2007, 17:43
Repost!:dodge::lol:
KB took for ever to respond when I posted this, bug perhaps?
Madmax
7th July 2007, 18:27
Dont have any probs with dogs that a 7.62mm will not sort out
the thing is you cant really take a gun out on the open road and start opening fire on a mut especialy in the suburbs. just get used to running them over best tequnique, is to lock the bars as hard as you can and hit it square on you wont come off! unless its a really big dog. For advanced road killers do a whellie and hit it wil the rear wheel square on this could potenitaly do less dammage to fearing when running it over. but a higher chance of comeing off so do it right!
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