Is this a scam?

[Blakamin]

A mate of mine is trying to sell his car and this is what he got

From: "Greg Bob" <greg_2004@xxxx.com>
To: xxxxxxxx
Subject: 1956 plymouth savoy.
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:17:10 +0800

Hello xxxxxxxxx,
It's my pleasure opinion to draft you this message.i will like
toinform you that am interested in getting this 1956 plymouth savoy.I want
you to get me the present pics And will like to know the present
condition.Just to inform you.
I will like you to reply urgent because am willing to get it.Andi will
like to know where you arelocated.make sure you email thisrequired
information i ask from you.Have a nice day.
Greg.


So he replied with

From: xxxx
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:34:08 +0000
To: greg_2004@xxxx.com
Subject: RE: 1956 plymouth savoy.

hi its located in xxxxx until this wekend when i will shift it to
xxxxx which is just outside of xxxxx.
its 98% complete needing a motor and box and a windscreen.
all external chrome is there and i think the original hubcaps are to.
its needs restoring.
its been in dry storage the last four years.
ive got some more pics i wil email to you tonite.
my cel number is xxxxxxxxxxx
ring me if you would like anymore information.

Cheers


And this is what he recieved


Hello xxx,
Thanks for the pics you have sent me,Am from the United State but
presently in Africa on business,payment is goint to be made by my Associate who
is in the UK on my behalf.
as soon as payment is made and recieved i will send my shipping agent over to
meet with you to enabale him shipe the 1956 plymouth savoy to the US.
May i know how much is your last offer on the plymouth savoy i.
i await your reply soonest,
Regards,
Greg.


Now I think its a scam but he's replied saying he wants 2,800 for it in cash or no deal...
we're waiting to see what happens next... Scam or not?????

[vifferman]

You know it is. Classic crappy english, same MO as bazillions of other scams.

[jrandom]

Of course it's a scam. You had to ask?

I remember this flavour coming up before, elsewhere, in relation to purchasing motorcycles via eBay, but I can't remember the exact nature of how it went.

[Blakamin]

I told him that but he reckons the guy is gunna come up with the cash... :spudwhat:

It's the most obvious scam i've seen... shame really as he wants to sell his plymouth so he can buy a bike. he's sick of seeing all the fun i have :eek:

[jrandom]

I told him that but he reckons the guy is gunna come up with the cash... :spudwhat:

I *wish* I could remember how it went, but I have a feeling it was some kind of money-laundering scam. He will come up with the cash, but then something bad will happen...

Perhaps it was a cheque that needed to be banked in your friend's name, and then most of the funds returned, or something. I really can't remember.

But if your friend doesn't turn around and run away *right now*, he's a fool.

[kerryg]

A mate of mine is trying to sell his car and this is what he got

From: "Greg Bob" <greg_2004@xxxx.com>
To: xxxxxxxx
Subject: 1956 plymouth savoy.
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:17:10 +0800

Hello xxxxxxxxx,
It's my pleasure opinion to draft you this message.i will like
toinform you that am interested in getting this 1956 plymouth savoy.I want
you to get me the present pics And will like to know the present
condition.Just to inform you.
I will like you to reply urgent because am willing to get it.Andi will
like to know where you arelocated.make sure you email thisrequired
information i ask from you.Have a nice day.
Greg.


So he replied with

From: xxxx
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:34:08 +0000
To: greg_2004@xxxx.com
Subject: RE: 1956 plymouth savoy.

hi its located in xxxxx until this wekend when i will shift it to
xxxxx which is just outside of xxxxx.
its 98% complete needing a motor and box and a windscreen.
all external chrome is there and i think the original hubcaps are to.
its needs restoring.
its been in dry storage the last four years.
ive got some more pics i wil email to you tonite.
my cel number is xxxxxxxxxxx
ring me if you would like anymore information.

Cheers


And this is what he recieved


Hello xxx,
Thanks for the pics you have sent me,Am from the United State but
presently in Africa on business,payment is goint to be made by my Associate who
is in the UK on my behalf.
as soon as payment is made and recieved i will send my shipping agent over to
meet with you to enabale him shipe the 1956 plymouth savoy to the US.
May i know how much is your last offer on the plymouth savoy i.
i await your reply soonest,
Regards,
Greg.


Now I think its a scam but he's replied saying he wants 2,800 for it in cash or no deal...
we're waiting to see what happens next... Scam or not?????


Scam alright. Stay well clear. From now watch out for further e-mail messages that seem to come from various foreign banks, Paypal, Mastercard, eBay (you name it) inviting you to up-date your account details....I had a close escape from an Ebay scammer a while ago and since then have had various such false messages trying to get my credit card details. Be warned

[vifferman]

I *wish* I could remember how it went, but I have a feeling it was some kind of money-laundering scam. He will come up with the cash, but then something bad will happen...

Perhaps it was a cheque that needed to be banked in your friend's name, and then most of the funds returned, or something. I really can't remember.

But if your friend doesn't turn around and run away *right now*, he's a fool.Yeah, that's it. A "cashiers" (bank) cheque for more than the amount will be sent, (say $7K) and then you have to wire the difference. So they get $4200 for nothing...
I think I've mentioned this before, but a friend of mine in LA advertised his bike, had a similar reply to this, and (knowingly) went along with it, documenting it, etc. Even received the cheque and scanned it for our amusement. He was going to attempt to cash it to get it stamped as fraudulent (thus increasing its value as a momento) but couldn't be stuffed paying the $20 fee and possibly getting a bad record at the bank. He also started to try to play two scammers off against each other, before it all got to be too much bother and lost the fun factor.
The mentalest (?:eek5: ?) thing was that it started as someone trying to buy his bike, then he switched from discussing his bike to it being his pickup, and the 'buyer' didn't even comment on this amazing metamorphosis...

[Blakamin]

just showed him everyones reply. I think he's a bit dissapointed but he's going to do your mates trick, JS, and scam the fucker back some how :wacko:

[Coldkiwi]

yeah, the scam will probably go like this (had the same idiots try it on when selling my ZX-6R... supposedly to some guy who just couldn't find one in Nigeria!)..

your mate: 'I want $6000 for my car/bike'
idiot:'I will give you $7500 for your car/bike and you will pay the $1500 fee to the shipping agent'
your mate thinks: sweeeeet! 'Ok, send the money to my address
idiot: ' sure thing, we can do this deal as soon as you send the $1000 registration fee'

yeah- RIGHT. i tried to get my scammer to send me a $50 postage and handling fee for organising the $1K rego fee... but I never saw any money!




'

[TwoSeven]

Its a standard 'nigerian' scam.

Ask for a small deposit first, then say that you are currently in austrailia and ask for more money for fees. With a bit of luck the scammer may actually cough up :)

[Blakamin]

I feel really sorry for him too coz the only reason he wants to sell is to get another bike :pinch:
he has to sell the plymouth so he can finance it and this is the only bite he's had!
mind you he has got other toys, like his suzuki jeep with a capri V6 and L'cruiser diffs.

[jrandom]

I feel really sorry for him too coz the only reason he wants to sell is to get another bike :pinch:
he has to sell the plymouth so he can finance it and this is the only bite he's had!
mind you he has got other toys, like his suzuki jeep with a capri V6 and L'cruiser diffs.

Selling an old car like that always takes a while.

I must have spent three or four months advertising my '63 AP5 Valiant before I ended up selling it for about $6K less than it owed me.

[Eyetie]

Knew I had seen this scam alert the other day on Bike Trader, if your friend needs confirmation tell them to view this link : www.biketrader.co.nz/scam-alert.html

[Blakamin]

Knew I had seen this scam alert the other day on Bike Trader, if your friend needs confirmation tell them to view this link : www.biketrader.co.nz/scam-alert.html
Cheers for that. just emailed that link to him

[カワサキキド]

Knew I had seen this scam alert the other day on Bike Trader, if your friend needs confirmation tell them to view this link : www.biketrader.co.nz/scam-alert.html

The correspondence of people messing with the scammers is fricken funny...mabey give you friend some inspiration. :devil2:

[Blakamin]

The Latest!!!


>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "xxxxx" <xxxxxxx@xxxxx.com>
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:21:47 +0000
>To: greg_2004@doramail.com
>Subject: RE: 1956 plymouth savoy.
>
> > hi thanks for that.
> > i am asking $2800.00 new zealand dollars for it.
> > im have to move it from dry storage this weekend to my house.
> > cheers mate
> > xxxx xxxxxdx


>From: "Greg Bob" <greg_2004@doramail.com>
>To: "xxxxxx" <xxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com>
>Subject: RE: 1956 plymouth savoy.
>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:12:41 +0800
>
>Hello xxxxx,
> Thanks for the reply,the price is good.I will order my
>associate to write you a check of $5000, then after you had recieve the
>check you'll cash it an remove your paymnt for the Plymouth and then wire
>the remaining balance to my Financial Secretary.
> I will have my shipping agent contact you as soon as payment is
>made and recieved.
> Reply me with your full name, address an phone number(mobile) to
>eanable my associate write the check ASAP.
>I await your reply soonest,
>Cheers,
>Oscar.

Note the name change, he was Greg

Hi Oscar
My full name is Stewart P Base
and my address postal address is 950 H Street, NW, Washington, D.C. 20223
This addy is the secret service scam department
I am currently overseas so i will inform you of my mobile number in the next
few days.
can you please just deposit the money straight in my account as checks are a
bit of a pain when I am travelling all the time?
please respond soonest
regards
Stu

And we changed our name to one off a mouse pad in my office.. stewarts electrical supplies powerbase

[Rainbow Wizard]

Payment offer exceeds purchase price on condition that balance (his illegal profit) is forwarded to him. NEVER SUCCUMB TO THIS BULLSHIT

[Ghost Lemur]

For you haters of scams, you might get some pleasure from these guys.

419eater.com (http://www.419eater.com)

Although they got /.ed today and their forums seem to be down for maintainence so it might be worth leaving it til tomorrow to look out. To sum up they've made an art of sucessfully scamming the scammers.

[Rainbow Wizard]

Confirmed scammer: chris_mark@email2me.net and his bullshit shipper johnautoshippercompany@yahoo.co.uk