New Tenere rumour

[CBobR]

So many great adventure bikes rumoured, new transalp, KTM 690 Rally, and now a new Yamaha Tenere.
XT660 with big tank and screen, I'd have one (if it's a lot cheaper than the 690...).

Babelfish translation:
To the Hall of Milan, as it announces Motorcycling of July, it will come introduced the new Yamaha Ténéré. These the caratterisitche main: motor 660 to injection of the MT-03, perhaps increased in power and the maximum brace, new chassis in steel, suspensions adapted to enduro and the wheels from 21-17. For the rest, forcellone in light alloy, it completes instrumentation that could inglobare a GPS and a double dakariane front beacon that resumes that one of the motion, while the posterior beacon has one double row of led.

http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/Notizie.nsf/AllDocID/I1446B312F271506FC125730F005E3AFF?OpenDocument

[clint640]

That is a seriously dodgy looking photochop/crayon effort, pipes under the engine on a dirtbike are never going to be paid for with my money. It does look better than the XT660X tho.

Cheers
Clint

[NordieBoy]

That has adventure/touring potential.
Bit more of a fuel tank would be nice.

[warewolf]

Must admit I do like the looks; it reminds me of some cartoon drawings of dirt bikes that I liked... from about 15 years ago... but they were schweet! Also it's short wheelbase/tall height is reminiscent of the Rallye bikes.

Agree with Clint and Fran. Instead will have to point out the twin front discs and low front guard, both are bug-bears on the 640 Adventure.

But will be great to have another bike in the class.

[CBobR]

or build your own, how cool is this modded XT660?!
26litre tank
http://www.off-the-road.de/744.html?&L=1

[marks]

or build your own, how cool is this modded XT660?!
26litre tank
http://www.off-the-road.de/744.html?&L=1

while I love the look (except maybe the fairing - screams ktm wannabe) - do you notice that they have removed the partial lower front guard. How long before the radiator eats a rock or just clogs completely (I've done the latter even with the lower guard in place). The front guards on these things are all about styling and have very little to do with keeping shit off you or the bike

[NordieBoy]

That Tenere is growing on me :D
Needs the ability to strap some luggage to the back but...

[sAsLEX]

Agree with Clint and Fran. Instead will have to point out the twin front discs and low front guard, both are bug-bears on the 640 Adventure.

But will be great to have another bike in the class.

Sat on a mates 640, other than the fact I could only tippy toe on it, it had the high mud guard, I understand they changed to the lower one? Why? Road bias?

[clint640]

Sat on a mates 640, other than the fact I could only tippy toe on it, it had the high mud guard, I understand they changed to the lower one? Why? Road bias?

They use low guards in events like the Dakar 'cos there aint much mud in the desert. They fit those same guards to adv bikes so you can have that cool Dakar look.
They are also better for high speed stability, hence the fitment to 200+ km/h capable machines like the KTM 950, the newer 640's have the same front forks, wheel, brake setup as the 950 and got the low guard with it.

Cheers
Clint

[cooneyr]

Decent tail rack, high pipes, ability to strap panniers on, high front guard and 18l+ fuel tank could get me interested. Sounds like a KTM Adv but the Tenere would hopefully be cheaper, need less maintenance have frugalish fuel injection.

Cheers R

[buggsubique]

or build your own, how cool is this modded XT660?!
26litre tank
http://www.off-the-road.de/744.html?&L=1

looks like that little decepticon off the transformers movie, lol:ar15:

[Quasievil]

mmmm, not sold, Im waiting for the new KLR650 to come out this week, thats got me interested as a adventure bike, not sure what else Im into based on bang for Buck, XT660 is cool but lacking in adventure goodies, but its like $4k more than the KLR.

[Zukin]

mmmm, not sold, Im waiting for the new KLR650 to come out this week, thats got me interested as a adventure bike, not sure what else Im into based on bang for Buck, XT660 is cool but lacking in adventure goodies, but its like $4k more than the KLR.

Aha
Another one comes across to the other side :laugh:
It would be good to have you on the gravel with us

Cheers Scott

[Quasievil]

lol, yeah, Im dont with the carnage of the road, I used to have a 650 funduro, while not a serious adventure bike I had my best riding adventures and experiences on it, loved it, there is alot of NZ of the beaten track so I look forward to riding it all, cant wait, besides I have my race bike for high speed buzz

[pete376403]

My KLR has arrived!! It's sitting out the back at Sawyers and I'll pick it up on friday (been waiting for the thing for six months and now its here I'm laid up with the flu and too crook to pick it up). I had a quick look onTuesday and it's a bit bigger than I imagined

[sAsLEX]

My KLR has arrived!! It's sitting out the back at Sawyers and I'll pick it up on friday (been waiting for the thing for six months and now its here I'm laid up with the flu and too crook to pick it up). I had a quick look onTuesday and it's a bit bigger than I imagined

HTFU



oh and some pics and a write up once you got it ?:yes:

[pete376403]

Only one I've got so far, parked at work. maybe more pics after tomoorw

[NordieBoy]

Only one I've got so far, parked at work. maybe more pics after tomoorw

The lines are nice but they needed to graduate the green to silver interface on the tank/fairing.

So how's it go?

[moko]

Singles and Cruisers seem to be "in" in Europe recently,finally catching up with Sportsbikes in popularity,so many speed cameras and un-marked camera cars around these days speeding's going to get you caught sometime if you persist.
"New Tenere" might well be a goer on that basis,old version was a big hit in mainland Europe,as all the old trailies were.XTX is big but also got a reputation for shoddy finish,engine paint can flake off and bubble pretty quickly and I've seen some truly disgraceful rust on spokesmy 11 year-old DR has none at all,both enough to put me off of buying one which is a shame.I'm pretty sure the XTX's are made in France so you'd think they'd make them to survive European weather,bikes from Honda's Spanish factory have a similar bad rep for finish,odd thing is though that my old SLR650 always cleaned up like new with very little effort.
If the "New Tenere" does materialise it'll no more be a serious adventure trailie than the XTX is a proper trail-bike but hard though it may be for Kiwis to imagine most of these things are bought because they're good in town,it's illegal to ride a bike off-road just about everywhere in Britain for example unless you can find a friendly land-owner who'll let you use his private land.Also just about every road everywhere,no matter how narrow or isolated,is metalled here.Bit ironic really but trail bikes are quickly becoming the most sensible choice for urban riding due to their filtering ability and the crap state of the roads,that long-travel suspension being more used to pot-holes in neglected roads than for any off-road abilities.If the "New Tenere" does materialise it'll be as an answer to the F650 rather than the KLR or DR.

[tri boy]

Will Kawasaki NZ do a "run out" sale on the last of the 06/07 model?
At the right price, it could win some hearts.:yes:

[young1]

that klr is a smart looking bike, I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, hope to see yours on a ride in the future!

[limbimtimwim]

Will Kawasaki NZ do a "run out" sale on the last of the 06/07 model?
At the right price, it could win some hearts.:yes:The Kawasaki shop in masterton were doing just that about a month ago. But not listed anymore on bikepoint anymore. So I guess they sold them. You'll have to be quick.

Me, I'm happy wif my DR-Z.

[pete376403]

that klr is a smart looking bike, I haven't seen one in the flesh yet, hope to see yours on a ride in the future!
We (a bunch of mates and I) are doing a "not-the cold-kiwi" ride at the end of August, which will involve a Saturday night at the Whagamomona pub, so I may just run into you :yes:
We (same bunch of mates and I) did get out for a ride today so I'll try writing a ride report with a few pics.
Sorry for hijacking the Tenere thread:dodge:

[CBobR]

Woohoo, it's official:

http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/products/motorcycles/adventure/xt660z.jsp?view=overview

Engine type Liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, 4-valve, single cylinder, SOHC
Displacement 660 cc
Bore x stroke 100.0 x 84.0 mm
Compression ratio 10.0:1
Maximum power 35.3 kW (48 PS) @ 6,000 rpm
Maximum torque 60.0 Nm (6.1 kg-m) @ 5,250 rpm
Lubrication system Wet sump
Fuel System Fuel injection
Clutch type Wet, multiple-disc coil spring
Ignition system TCI
Starter system Electric
Transmission system Constant mesh, 5 speed
Final transmission Chain
Fuel tank capacity 22 L
Oil tank capacity 2.9 L


Chassis -
Chassis: Steel tube diamond shaped
Front suspension system Telescopic forks
Front travel 210 mm
Rear suspension system Swingarm (monocross)
Rear travel 200 mm
Front brake Double disc, Ø 298 mm
Rear brake Single disc, Ø 245 mm
Front tyre 90/90-21 M/C
Rear tyre 130/80-17 M/C


Dimensions -
Length 2,246 mm
Width 865 mm
Height 1,477 mm
Seat height 895 mm
Wheel base 1,505 mm
Minimum ground clearance 245 mm
Dry weight 183 kg

Please be cheap Yamaha NZ.

[clint640]

A little porky & under suspended, but it looks great, lots of nice touches like the beefy modular plastics. They'll sell a heap of those if they can price them close to the 660R.

Cheers
Clint

[avgas]

hmmmm i wonder what price bracket it would be - would make a perfect second bike for me

[Big Dave]

Please please pleased be the bike they want to debut at the Yamaha SI Safari Please please eplease....unless there is a 1000.......

[tri boy]

Please please pleased be the bike they want to debut at the Yamaha SI Safari Please please eplease....unless there is a 1000.......

Oh no you don't......theres only so much good will I can muster towards fortunate buggers like yourself.
Best you ride a nice AG100 (with a bald rear tyre and a nasty misfire).

[young1]

That looks very nice!

[Big Dave]

Oh no you don't......theres only so much good will I can muster towards fortunate buggers like yourself.
Best you ride a nice AG100 (with a bald rear tyre and a nasty misfire).

It's hard to be humble, when......

[limbimtimwim]

Gotta love that luggage that is in the pictures. Looks.. umm.. Authentic!

[tri boy]

Another pic.
22ltr fuel tank is under seat, apparently. Makes for a slim leg/tank fitment. Nice to see Yamaha trying different things.

[NordieBoy]

It's hard to be humble, when......

You're riding an AG100 with a bald rear tyre and a nasty misfire?

[NordieBoy]

That does look like a decent adventure single.
A BMW 650 Dakar made by Yamaha.

[cooneyr]

.......A BMW 650 Dakar made by Yamaha.

You got that right - weight and suspension travel are about the same. Seat is also very similar. If only somebody would bring out something more like the KTM 640 Adv i.e. good suspension with more trail style seat i.e. can move weight around like on a DR650. Hmmm - time for a DR650 RSE update????

Cheers R

[Big Dave]

You're riding an AG100 with a bald rear tyre and a nasty misfire?

That would make it easy

I was along the lines of "When you are thinking about putting 'raconteur' on your business card".

Or 'Bon Vivant' like Ginger had.

[warewolf]

A BMW 650 Dakar made by Yamaha.F@ck off NO!!! :nono:

The Tenere was long in the tooth before the F650 was spawned. Any heritage the new bike's got came from Yam's own efforts, thank you very much. If anything the F650 is a Tenere copy, not t'other way round.

[warewolf]

'raconteur'What's French for 'raconteur'?

[tri boy]

F@ck off NO!!! :nono:

The Tenere was long in the tooth before the F650 was spawned. Any heritage the new bike's got came from Yam's own efforts, thank you very much. If anything the F650 is a Tenere copy, not t'other way round.

Gotta agree with ya. 1980s XT 600 Tenere were doing the business, when BMW were wobbling around on air heads. (excluding factory racers).
Mass production wise, Yamaha were the Biz.

[CBobR]

Another pic.


Looks like a metal bash plate in that pic, I wonder if they have some useful accessories lined up also.

[Big Dave]

What's French for 'raconteur'?

le mouthy git.

[tri boy]

Looks like a metal bash plate in that pic, I wonder if they have some useful accessories lined up also.

Spose to be a full range of bits to compliment it. Not sure what is standard though.

[warewolf]

le mouthy git.Dare I say it... touché!

[Daffyd]

Another pic.
22ltr fuel tank is under seat, apparently. Makes for a slim leg/tank fitment. Nice to see Yamaha trying different things.

That's not new for Yamaha...my '97 Virago has the main tank under the seat.
Certainly keeps the C O G nice and low.

[tri boy]

That's not new for Yamaha...my '97 Virago has the main tank under the seat.
Certainly keeps the C O G nice and low.

As far as I know, its new for the XT series. Makes sense if they are trying to slim down the seat/tank area for better rider control, while still supplying a decent fuel range.

Spoke to Waikato Yamaha this arvo re eta and pricing, got a don't know reply, but they said they would email something once they know.

[banditrider]

Another link here:

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/09/17/2008-yamaha-xt660z-tenere/

Looks pretty cool - come on lotto!

[Zukin]

I think it looks cool :)

It does look a lot like a KTM in a way :niceone:

[NordieBoy]

Looking more like an adventure bike...

[Alpha Solo]

Be interested to read some ride reports of this new beast, hopefully prices will be lower than KTM etc...

[deanohit]

That light brown one looks alot better Nordieboy, I like the look and the practicality of the higher front guard. The early KTM 640's looked better with the higher front guard on them.

[clint640]

It does look a lot like a KTM in a way :niceone:

Wash yer mouth out ya blasphemer!:bleh: I'm surprised they didn't come out with an orange colour scheme like the XT660R.

They do look good but I reckon they owe a lot more to the 1150/1200GS than any KTM styling wise.

If they can price them at less than $13K I reckon they'll sell a few.

Cheers
Clint

[CBobR]

I was waiting to see the new Transalp before getting too excited about the new Tenere.

(If it will be as shown in the pic) front brakes are interesting, a lot of pistons there. Any guesses if that's a 21 inch front wheel? We'll know after the weekend I suppose.
Hopefully it's lightish. Could be a tough call. Anyone getting impatient about the 690 adventure? ..or pondering how much weight you could save by ditching the big cans on the Tenere?

[NordieBoy]

Wow.
A collision between a Tiger and a Strom for the styling, a 1984 XR250 for the suspension and a mini-moto and MotoGP bike for the front brakes.

[rogson]

50HP out of a liquid cooled FI 660 single......come-on Yamaha, you can do better than that.

[NZsarge]

50HP out of a liquid cooled FI 660 single......come-on Yamaha, you can do better than that.
It might be tuned more for torque.

[clint640]

I was waiting to see the new Transalp before getting too excited about the new Tenere.
Hopefully it's lightish. Could be a tough call. Anyone getting impatient about the 690 adventure? ..or pondering how much weight you could save by ditching the big cans on the Tenere?

I'd put a beer on that Transalp being heavier than the old one. KTM & BMW seem to be the only manufacturers interested in making their adv bikes lighter, everybody else is going the other way.


50HP out of a liquid cooled FI 660 single......come-on Yamaha, you can do better than that.

Indeed. With the new 690 Enduro KTM rumoured to be cranking out 65hp & weighing 40kg less I know where my money would go.

Cheers
Clint

[NordieBoy]

Indeed. With the new 690 Enduro KTM rumoured to be cranking out 65hp & weighing 40kg less I know where my money would go.

You getting a DR Clint?

:shutup:

[clint640]

You getting a DR Clint?

:shutup:

Nah, if I wanted a new motorcycle made with vintage technology I'd do it properly & get an Enfield :bleh:

[NordieBoy]

Nah, if I wanted a new motorcycle made with vintage technology I'd do it properly & get an Enfield :bleh:

Now that would be a sweet bike.

[CBobR]

New Transalp specs <_<:

http://www.moto-net.com/actualites-motos-1713-Nouveautés-2008-NOUVEAUTÉS-2008-Honda-devoile-sa-nouvelle-Transalp-XLV-700-!.html

"The capacity of its tank passes from 19 to 17,5 liters, "but the clear improvement of the consumption authorized by the food by electronic injection makes it possible to preserve and to even increase autonomy", the manufacturer reassures.

With regard to the wheels, the hour is not yet in Supermotard: even if the rims are they also "inflated" (19 X 2,15 with before and 17 X 3,50 with the back), the tires remain relatively fine and high (100/90 with before and 130/80 with the back). The fighter spirit remains quite present!

Level braking, the news Transalp 2008 is equipped with series of a double disc before 256 mm gripped by clamps two pistons, but it can also accomodate expensive the Combiné/ABS system in Honda. In this case, the clamps are models three pistons, of which one is actuated by the back footbrake pedal. "

"Options:
- signal-box of 45 liters
- two balustrades to install on the signal-box 45 liters
- set of specific side bags of a capacity of 29 liters
- play of preparing of brushed aluminium bags
- set of two robust nylon bags conceived for the side bags. Capacity of 16 liters
- robust extensible bag for the signal-box
- System GPS Honda
- alarm of the type AVERTO with detector of movement, siren and spare battery
- fires before and back fog
- higher bubble with 17 mm deflectors
- lower saddle of 20 mm
- choice between two sets of heating handles with adjustment of the temperature and protective circuit of the battery
- preparing of instrumentation way aluminium
- protection of tank way aluminium
- elements of preparing way aluminium
- central crutch
- theft protection device out of U
- cover of external protection
- auxiliary catch 12V"

The promo vid seems a good summary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNh1MsDA9Qw

[CBobR]

Stolen from ADVrider:
The Tenere accessories were announced at the Paris show. Good effort by Yamaha:

Side cases
Top case
Hand protectors
Deflectors for hand protectors
Centre stand
Engine guard
Sump guard
Protection for tank
Akrapovic silencers
Protection optique

[NordieBoy]

How about a... Tenere Video (http://www2.yamaha-motor.fr/salon/mondial-deux-roues/2007/spip.php?article40)

[NZsarge]

How about a... Tenere Video (http://www2.yamaha-motor.fr/salon/mondial-deux-roues/2007/spip.php?article40)

Kewl, that looks alright, now all it needs is a supercharger on it so it can leave dirty great black stripes coming out of corners on the tarmac!:headbang::woohoo:

[tri boy]

gotta say, I'm really starting to like this bike.
I have a few concerns that will be confirmed or alleviated after I see one in the flesh, but all up, its looking good.
As clint mentioned, the price will be the kicker. I'm picking on road with a few accessories.......$15000:dodge:

[K slider]

I realy like this bike, looks a bit hard to clean but

[NordieBoy]

I just don't like the screen and the screen mount.
The one from the concept drawing was much better up front.

[cooneyr]

First hotel with free net in last night (finally). I recon the Tenere is going to go down a treat in Itally. Only just got to Switzerland so dont know about further north. Going to do a write up when I get to Sweden but Transalps, Africa Twins, F650 GS, TT/XT/Tenere(old), R GS BMWs and a smattering of old XL honda's made up well over 50% of all motorbikes (there is a total and utter dominance of scooters though) I saw around the cities of Italy. The only newer models were the TA's and the BMWs so I'm guessing there is space for a new Tenere.

The roads are so damn rough (especially the cobbled bits) that you'd be mad to ride a sports bike (though some do).

Only one thing wrong - no dirt/dust on any of them.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

No dust on our roads now either :(