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canarlee
11th July 2007, 10:02
apparantly! according to an ecconomist here >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/books/chapters/0708-1st-land.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&oref=slogin

janno
11th July 2007, 11:27
Nope, that just does not compute.

Seems a completely spurious argument camoflaged in a reasonable and learned tone.

I wonder what the people who work in AIDS research or any disease control field would think of that logic?

I'm certainly not willing to try out the theory anyway . . . :shit:

Gareth123
11th July 2007, 13:47
I read somewhere that condoms aren't 100% safe either. Apparently they only stop 25% of STIs. Now that the NZ health institutions have been pushing condoms alot more (you may remember the ads from a few years ago with the couple on the couch at the end) young people have been having even more "safe" sex and getting even more STIs than they were before!

MotoGirl
11th July 2007, 13:53
What a load of shit.

MisterD
11th July 2007, 16:10
What a load of shit.

Do you think so? What about an analogy: Consider a minefield that you step into every time you have sex and every infected person is a mine. If more people are having sex that makes the minefield bigger, but with the same number of mines in it, therefore less chance of getting blown up....

MotoGirl
11th July 2007, 16:54
Do you think so? What about an analogy: Consider a minefield that you step into every time you have sex and every infected person is a mine. If more people are having sex that makes the minefield bigger, but with the same number of mines in it, therefore less chance of getting blown up....

I see the logic in your statement and that of the writer but it's still pretty fruity! I wonder how many people will actually give this a go?

canarlee
11th July 2007, 16:57
I wonder how many people will actually give this a go?

i will with pleasure!!!

carver
11th July 2007, 16:59
more sex = more fun

MotoGirl
11th July 2007, 17:00
i will with pleasure!!!

Then thank you oh Lord and Saviour :sick: for your sluttiness is doing your community a great service.

BuFfY
11th July 2007, 17:01
The lengths people go to have more sex. Why do you need an excuse?!!

janno
11th July 2007, 17:08
Do you think so? What about an analogy: Consider a minefield that you step into every time you have sex and every infected person is a mine. If more people are having sex that makes the minefield bigger, but with the same number of mines in it, therefore less chance of getting blown up....

Your analogy doesn't make sense to me - I don't know enough maths to comment on the numbers, but where aids is unchecked in places like Africa, how come the disease is on the increase rather than staying static or declining?

I've got alarm bells ringing that the original idea is an economist's theory. So presumably he is number crunching rather than taking into account people behaviour and the way the virus spreads.

However unchecked aids spreading is probably going to be the quickest way to find a cure. As more and more cases of natural immunity are popping up about the place.

Like the Black Death. While it killed millions, quite a few of those who got it didn't die. Darwins theory or just pure dumb luck, I wonder?

Edbear
11th July 2007, 17:12
Wot a load of...:weird:

MisterD
11th July 2007, 17:53
Your analogy doesn't make sense to me - I don't know enough maths to comment on the numbers, but where aids is unchecked in places like Africa, how come the disease is on the increase rather than staying static or declining?


It could be because as the author of the article suggests in his example there are a small number of prostitutes which a large number of men visit...that would certainly be the case in places like India where a lot of truck drivers contract it and take it home to their wives.

Personally I think the theory probably falls over after that first "step", dependent on factors like how long it takes people to die after contracting the disease etc....

Curious_AJ
11th July 2007, 21:02
I agree with what BuFfy said.. why need an excuse??

007XX
11th July 2007, 21:16
Personally I think the theory probably falls over after that first "step", dependent on factors like how long it takes people to die after contracting the disease etc....

I tend to agree with this one. Although the "method" to contract the virus is a universal standard, there are too many criterias coming into play for people to have sex, based on culture (ie: tolerance to polygamy...), social rank for certain countries as well as pure and simple physical attractions...Making one generalisation on a worlwide scale is nothing short of stupid and uneducated.

Toaster
11th July 2007, 21:23
What a load of shit.

Agreed, big pile of poo poo.

ManDownUnder
11th July 2007, 21:31
Do you think so? What about an analogy: Consider a minefield that you step into every time you have sex and every infected person is a mine. If more people are having sex that makes the minefield bigger, but with the same number of mines in it, therefore less chance of getting blown up....

Yes but it also means the overall number of people capable of setting off those mines increases... thereby giving any given mine the same chance of being set off... (assuming a number of variables like their rate of travcel, safe paths aren't learned and noted etc).

AND... when one of those people does set a mine off... they become a mine themselves... so eventually you end up with your larger minefield with the number of mines in it growing exponentially till saturation....

Still want to go for that walk?


Your analogy doesn't make sense to me - I don't know enough maths to comment on the numbers, but where aids is unchecked in places like Africa, how come the disease is on the increase rather than staying static or declining?

See above,.

007XX
11th July 2007, 21:35
We'd also need to take into account the children born with the disease...that's a whole new generation on mines right there...

Purely and simply, the only to calculate that one would be to enter all the possible on the subject into a super computer to get anywhere near having accurate statistics...

oldrider
11th July 2007, 22:23
The lengths people go to have more sex. Why do you need an excuse?!!

It's not an "excuse" that I need these days, it's a kick-start to remember "why!" Bloody alzheimer's! :spudwhat: :crybaby: John

shcabbeh
12th July 2007, 00:24
Can I ask the obvious?

What does an economist know about sex? :D

Chrislost
12th July 2007, 00:26
Do you think so? What about an analogy: Consider a minefield that you step into every time you have sex and every infected person is a mine. If more people are having sex that makes the minefield bigger, but with the same number of mines in it, therefore less chance of getting blown up....

your just fucked if that number happens to be a %...

Curious_AJ
12th July 2007, 01:02
haha... a sex mine field...

Holy Roller
12th July 2007, 04:10
Social experimentation to justify ones belief system is always flawed, though many will look at it from just the right angle and think that it will work.

kevfromcoro
12th July 2007, 04:48
It's not an "excuse" that I need these days, it's a kick-start to remember "why!" Bloody alzheimer's! :spudwhat: :crybaby: John

GOOD point John..i think we only get allocated so many in a lifetime..and i used up my quota years ago..

The Big J
12th July 2007, 06:24
Isn`t the basic flaw in the argument that Joan will go home with the second guy if the first guy doesn`t pick her up?
Also, won`t dirty dirty Maxwell pick up someone else?

Eh, the writer is just trying to provoke a reaction, right?

kro
12th July 2007, 06:41
And the claimed lessening of the AIDS spread, is offset by a sharp rise in teen pregnancy, and also in STD's in general, across the age range?.

I must say, the logic is shaky at best.

sinned
12th July 2007, 09:06
Can I ask the obvious?

What does an economist know about sex? :D

An economist is almost certain to know more about sex than an accountant. This article makes a lot of sense and illustrates the futility of a the recent campaigns that have obviously been made (not created) by do-gooders with an accountant's rather than an economist's approach.

Taz
12th July 2007, 09:08
I am a Martin. I would like to take this opportunity to offer my services to a select few joans out there.....

cindymay
12th July 2007, 09:52
Misinformation here - I always use condoms and they give good protection if fitted correctly. See here: http://www.condomdepot.com/learn/stats.cfm and there is plenty of other information about. Best protection for girls is to provide the condom and supervise the fitting - I prefer to fit it myself and then I am sure.

With experience the dangerous men are easy to pick. A couple of years pole and lap dancing taught me a lot.

more_fasterer
12th July 2007, 14:55
your just fucked

Isn't that the aim of the game???