Can powder coating be stripped from a frame?

[Duc]

Can Powder coating be stripped from a frame?

I have had my frame powder coated and they have cocked up. An oil contamination in the process that caused a run of some sort.

The job is also late and they do not make any contact as they continually promise to do. (Another slack little business operation that promises the earth and do not know how to deliver.) They keep telling me they are a bit busy to fix their own screw up.

I am going to cut my losses and take the job away from them then start again with someone else - so I need to know if I can strip their work off.

[vifferman]

yes. It's basically just paint that's baked on rather than left to air dry - harder than 'normal' paint, but still removable.

[Sam I Am]

i think your down to sand/bead blasting

[vifferman]

i think your down to sand/bead blasting
Probably the best route.
I read about someone who had their frame dipped, and had HUGE problems getting all the remnants of caustic off (in itself not particularly good for frames) and the subsequent repaint turned to crap.

[bucket boy]

when i stripped my zx down to polish it i used tergo or aergo strip it was the only paint stripper that would work on powder coating got it from bunnings other wise sand blast wasnt option for me as didnt take motor out

[ManDownUnder]

Yes it can be... and you need to give those that stuffed up the chance to put it right...

I understand if they turn it down, you have the right to get their work fixed then take that amount off the amount you pay them. Unfortunately I don't imagine that's an easy thing to do because the normal course of events means you've paid... picked it up and THEN found the problem.

[Taz]

Please name the business so none of the rest of us make the mistake of using them.

[ManDownUnder]

Please name the business so none of the rest of us make the mistake of using them.

+1 ....................

[Taz]

I keep a list of these bastards... Also keep a list of businesses that have done good....
Surprising how many motorcycle shops are on my Beware list.

[Kflasher]

Can Powder coating be stripped from a frame?

I have had my frame powder coated and they have cocked up. An oil contamination in the process that caused a run of some sort.

The job is also late and they do not make any contact as they continually promise to do. (Another slack little business operation that promises the earth and do not know how to deliver.) They keep telling me they are a bit busy to fix their own screw up.

I am going to cut my losses and take the job away from them then start again with someone else - so I need to know if I can strip their work off.

I had my fzr (silver) stripped/ dipped and powdercoated.
If they fark it up you have to buff the whole job and feather all imperfections or they will show through next coat.

I soaked my frame in grease remover for ages to rid all the oil, but still got a small effected area around the head stock. Not enough to worry about.

[surfer]

Name them so no one else uses them.

I am planning to get my frame powder coated soon. What did you find as the best way of going about this (other not recommending the firm you fell foul of)? Is it ok to hand over over the oily dirty frame with paint on and let them get on with cleaning it, or clean it up myself? What worked best for you?

If I clean it myself what should I be using?

Cheers

[roadracingoldfart]

Most powder coaters will have access to a dip stripping plant. If you are getting a frame done then clarify your job is to be coated with a "polyester powder coating" as this is better in U.V.light and will tolerate oil and fuel better. If you have a small section contaminated with oil , grease or whatever it can be cleaned up and recoated but remember it will be thicker and the double coated areas will flake / chip easier as its thicker.

When i was running a powder coating factory i prefered to do the stripping in house with a product we knew was compatible with our system and sometimes we had a problem with the customer cleaned jobs leaching a solvent or wax when the cooking was done.
Its a min of 10 mins at 200 celcius to bake a polyester so anything trapped in a frame tube will sweat out of a weld or seam and run the powder.
We used to drill a small hole at each tube intersection to allow gasses to stop building up in the tubes and this minimised the sweat problem alot.
If you want a really durable job done then ring around to find out what pre treatment the coater uses. An Iron or Zinc phosphate full immersion bath is a much better way to go than spray etch primer. You pay more but its worth it in my opinion.

Finally, a sand blasted surface is very hard to get a smooth even look on especially in gloss black and gloss red as its grained from the sand and shows out , a dip stripped surface is non abraisive and wont grain the steel.
Cheers Paul.

[psyguy]

hi duc
you may want to check these guys out
http://www.procoat.co.nz/
i saw the frame they did for Dodgyti and was quite impressed with the finish - they used clearcote on top of the powdercoat (this is optional)
i'll use them when i get to that stage in my resto
Dodgyiti can tell you more, i guess
cheers

[peasea]

Name them so no one else uses them.

I am planning to get my frame powder coated soon. What did you find as the best way of going about this (other not recommending the firm you fell foul of)? Is it ok to hand over over the oily dirty frame with paint on and let them get on with cleaning it, or clean it up myself? What worked best for you?

If I clean it myself what should I be using?

Cheers

It's a two-way thing. Dipping has hassles of getting the caustic out of the joints, blasting has the surface imperfections to contend with. If you blast the frame, ask for a fine media. It'll take longer for them to do it but you'll get a smoother end result.

I see you're on the Shore. I used a company at the end of Parity Place, Mikestan Wire I think it's still called. The powder coated stuff they did for me (gloss black) came out great. I've also used ProCoat for some components in the past and had good results except for one set of exhaust headers on a V8. They re-coated them free though and no more hassles. HPC also have a range of colours and their stuff seems to last too.

My 2c

[Duc]

Hi all.

I wont name them because they are trying to rectify the problem and in fact I get to check it out this week. Do note the issue is a bit two fold in that the project is also late and there has been no communication unless I do the phoning . That is how I found out about the issue.

Wait til I see how it has all worked out.

[Duc]

Last Thursday they were going to sort this by Friday.

Today (Monday) I am still at the bottom of their priorities and I am getting a bit pissed. They have until this arvo for a promised phone call.

Either way I am taking it away tomorrow morning (fixed or not).

Would I give them more work ? No f'n way.

(Thinking now that I will probably name them tomorrow to save you guys any future grief.)

[Taz]

In this world of instant information retrieval it would be good if there was a website where we could rate businesses on their service and quality. Then we would all be able to find businesses that really care. Name the bastards! this level of service should not be tolerated.

[Deviant Esq]

Hey Duc. Any luck getting it sussed? How about an update? Cheers :cool: