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manuboy
23rd September 2004, 13:30
It seems to me after observing this forum for a couple of weeks now,
that the majority of regular posters fall into 3 categories.
1) Overly Humorous
2) Overly Informative
3) Mechanically way too Adept
Which leaves the rest of us wistfully isolated and feeling undervalued.
So here it is. The first Sovereign topic for the Everyday Lout.
Soverign Rules:
1) No Informative stuff. If anybody could learn anything from anything you wanna say, forget it.
2) No Honda riders (sorry Dangerous....)
3) No sound mechanical advice - unsound stuff is good as long as it makes the bike go faster / louder
4) No putting anybody down man.... especially me.
5) No funny shite. Nothing that would induce the slightest smirk, let alone the sphincter prolapsing pant soiling stuff. None. Uh uh.
6) No pronunciation, and punctuation and no Latin....
Sweet? Recommended post topics are pittosporums, gingerbread, and paslode gas powered nail guns.
Something for everybody there....newbies... get in while ya can...
<dontquotethis>yeah... i know... i'm a cock....</dontquotethis>
p.s Break the rules and you "Get it from Gretchen (attached)"
p.p.s jees i'm bored...
vifferman
23rd September 2004, 13:38
p.s Break the rules and you "Get it from Gretchen (attached)"
Is Gretchen your sister, mother or alter-ego?
Yeah, I possibly broke Rule 2 (GIVE IT TO ME, GRETCHEN!!BEAT ME! WHIP ME! F... oh, sorry...:mellow: ) but not really, as today I'm a Peugeot Pilot, rather than a Honda rider.
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 13:52
Is Gretchen your sister, mother or alter-ego?
Shes my sunday school teacher / lead mechanic,and an all round top lass...
GIVE IT TO ME, GRETCHEN!!BEAT ME! WHIP ME! F...
Dirty, dirty, trash talk.. i like it..... (so does Gretchen...) :bleh:
Eddieb
23rd September 2004, 14:02
1) No Informative stuff. If anybody could learn anything from anything you wanna say, forget it.
2) No Honda riders (sorry Dangerous....)
3) No sound mechanical advice - unsound stuff is good as long as it makes the bike go faster / louder
4) No putting anybody down man.... especially me.
5) No funny shite. Nothing that would induce the slightest smirk, let alone the sphincter prolapsing pant soiling stuff. None. Uh uh.
6) No pronunciation, and punctuation and no Latin....
p.p.s jees i'm bored...
Sound mechanical advice from a Ducati owner yea right!
p.p.p.s, yea me too.
Slim
23rd September 2004, 14:06
I'm breaking rule #2 too :( but I ride a Ducati occassionally, so does that let me off????
I've found that CRC cleans brake disks to a sparkling shine! :sneaky2:
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 14:19
I'm breaking rule #2 too :( but I ride a Ducati occassionally, so does that let me off????
I've found that CRC cleans brake disks to a sparkling shine! :sneaky2:
No slim, it don't, but seeing ya from Hammytown i'll put Gretchen on hold.
Dunno why everybody hassles it. They made that TV program where the TVNZ crew had to drive an hour south to film drunken w**nkers out on the town... what the heck for? Ain't there no drunken revellers in queen st on the weekend?
Yup... fond memories... had my first learner driver pull out in fronta me on Te Rapa straight b4 it had that lovely round about. Managed to jump from the bike, clear the car and fly about 100 metres b4 landing on a traffic island and wondering why i couldn't "unfold" my body from the foetal(?) position.
At least a realyl nice lady on a harley offered to come pick up what was left of the fzr400 and drop it home for me.... and the oxygen in the ambulance was TOP STUFF!
Hooks
23rd September 2004, 14:20
It seems to me after observing this forum for a couple of weeks now,
that the majority of regular posters fall into 3 categories.
1) Overly Humorous
2) Overly Informative
3) Mechanically way too Adept
Which leaves the rest of us wistfully isolated and feeling undervalued.
So here it is. The first Sovereign topic for the Everyday Lout.
Soverign Rules:
1) No Informative stuff. If anybody could learn anything from anything you wanna say, forget it.
2) No Honda riders (sorry Dangerous....)
3) No sound mechanical advice - unsound stuff is good as long as it makes the bike go faster / louder
4) No putting anybody down man.... especially me.
5) No funny shite. Nothing that would induce the slightest smirk, let alone the sphincter prolapsing pant soiling stuff. None. Uh uh.
6) No pronunciation, and punctuation and no Latin....
Sweet? Recommended post topics are pittosporums, gingerbread, and paslode gas powered nail guns.
Something for everybody there....newbies... get in while ya can...
<dontquotethis>yeah... i know... i'm a cock....</dontquotethis>
p.s Break the rules and you "Get it from Gretchen (attached)"
p.p.s jees i'm bored...
Right here goes .....
Did you know that suzukis are the best bike to ride .... and at work I ride a honda ... quad .... and that keeping your spark plugs clean is good for the bike !! .......Jeez that Manuboy is a right pratt .... what a dumb thread .... Did you see that WT & MR have signed up to enter the Tour De France next time round >> .... and last of all ... I before E except after C ......
So how did I do ?? ......
By the way Gretchen my address is ...... :ride:
jrandom
23rd September 2004, 14:22
today i rided my bike wich is not a honda
i think maybe it would go faster if it had a nos
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 14:27
So how did I do ?? ......
By the way Gretchen my address is ...... :ride:
Hmmmm... A for effort, -1 for breaking rule #4, excellent lack of punctuation, but i see you're from Palmy Nth so that may just come naturally? :msn-wink: :msn-wink:
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 14:30
today i rided my bike wich is not a honda
i think maybe it would go faster if it had a nos
Or a glup? I hear the smaller zukes go way better with one of those attached... :blah:
vifferman
23rd September 2004, 14:34
No slim, it don't, but seeing ya from Hammytown i'll put Gretchen on hold.
Dunno why everybody hassles it.It's actually quite a nice place in some ways. Has fanatastic gardens, lovely walks along the riverbanks, and it's quite pretty. I lived there for yonks (that's like 17 years) and eventually worked out what was wrong widdit (apart from the weather). People used to say "it's central to everywhere", and to us, it was, with rellies in Hunua, Rotorua, Tokoroa and Tauranga. But (BUT!) it's like the hallway of your house - that's central to everywhere too, but you wouldn't want to spend all your time there, as nothing's happening.
I think it's typical of a service centre type town; Perth is just the same (only more biggerer and hotterer).
So, Mr Manuboy - what's that SV like then? A guy here had a loaner one while he's waiting for his SV650 to arrive, and offered me a ride, but I didn't take him up on it, and now he's got a SV650S loaner, which doesn't particualrly interest me (already test-ridden one of those).
jrandom
23rd September 2004, 14:48
It's actually quite a nice place in some ways.
Yes, there's nothing actually unpleasant about it, and it's close to plenty of lovely riding roads and good hunting and tramping areas. I'd happily live there if it was doable work-wise, I'm sure.
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 14:48
So, Mr Manuboy - what's that SV like then? A guy here had a loaner one while he's waiting for his SV650 to arrive, and offered me a ride, but I didn't take him up on it, and now he's got a SV650S loaner, which doesn't particualrly interest me (already test-ridden one of those).
Well.. to be honest, i LOVE it. Then again, after 10 years in the wilderness, i'd love ANYTHING. I always wanted a Ducati, but eventually they convinced me if i wasn't a total wrench monkey i'd struggle to afford upkeep. The SV was as near as i could get without paying for a VTR. It handles better than anything i ever rode (incuding FZR400 ... b4 the accident), but the best, and i mean BEST bit is that you can pitch it over, line up the exit and then stomp out in ANY gear. Lazy i know, but its awesome to be able to get the gear "wrong" but not really worry too much about it. Can't wait for my first decent adventure - i've always wanted to ride that coastal road from Hurunui's up to Blenheim. Envy everybody who has! yep....lovin the beast...
Dangerous told me there's a rally to Glenorchy as well... that sounds top... Gretchen will be pleased....
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 14:52
Yes, there's nothing actually unpleasant about it, and it's close to plenty of lovely riding roads and good hunting and tramping areas. I'd happily live there if it was doable work-wise, I'm sure.
Me too.... when i get sick of the Nor'westers here... must still be some cheap land round the back of Nike / Ngharuwahia somewhere? The one downside of Canterbury? Apart from the awesome ride to Akaroa, it's a LONG ride to the nearest twisties.. unless anybody has some secret roads??? hint..hint.... :disapint:
Motu
23rd September 2004, 14:54
I got a awesome gingabread recipie,it's got about a cup of molasses in it an you can use it to seal fuel tank leaks.
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 15:00
I got a awesome gingabread recipie,it's got about a cup of molasses in it an you can use it to seal fuel tank leaks.
Dude, if it seals fuel tank leaks, what the hell does it do to your ah.... :eek5: ... you know.... :yes: ah forward the recipe anyway dude, i'll add a kg of licorice and start selling it.... if Chris Cairns can get away with that shite he calls fudge..... :doh:
jrandom
23rd September 2004, 15:02
I got a awesome gingabread recipie,it's got about a cup of molasses in it an you can use it to seal fuel tank leaks.
Mmmmmmm. Gingerbreeeeeeeead (H. J. Simpson style).
Post the recipe.
Jackrat
23rd September 2004, 18:45
i planted some pittosporums up me driveway when I lived in pukekohe but the exhaust fumes from the mrs escort killed half of em so much for the nursery guys tough plants have to do better than them things to beat my Mrs
that irelevent enough for ya :spudwave:
manuboy
23rd September 2004, 19:19
i planted some pittosporums up me driveway when I lived in pukekohe but the exhaust fumes from the mrs escort killed half of em so much for the nursery guys tough plants have to do better than them things to beat my Mrs
that irelevent enough for ya :spudwave:
Man! i accidentally poored half a litre of turps and some paint thinner on one of ours and it never even noticed... that must be one Toxic escort....
Jackrat
23rd September 2004, 20:11
could off bin the naboar rounduped the buggers <_< we didnt get on
they moved first but :kick:
manuboy
24th September 2004, 08:56
Yippppeeeee!
Was "allocated" my first speeding infringement last night. Passed a guy in a beat up old van who was doin just under 50km/h on a dead straight road. Once passed him i settled to 60km/h. About 2K's later i got pulled. The cop reckoned i'd accelerated to 70km/h during the manouevre. He was probably right. $80 ain't bad, accept it's a possible CBTA license killer.... ooops!
But Anyway! I know enough to know that m/c riding isn't as simple as it sometimes seems. Is there anything i can do to make to odd putt thru town i have to do, more comfortable (and legal)? At 50km i'm either in 2nd or 3d and the vibration through the clipons is pretty numbing after about 3-4 minutes. I can't lock my legs around the tank to shift the weight off my arms for that long (yet). Must be technique right?
Any other vtwin guys / gals who suffer the same? Whaddya do? Just harden up? :angry:
vifferman
24th September 2004, 09:38
But Anyway! I know enough to know that m/c riding isn't as simple as it sometimes seems. Is there anything i can do to make to odd putt thru town i have to do, more comfortable (and legal)? At 50km i'm either in 2nd or 3d and the vibration through the clipons is pretty numbing after about 3-4 minutes. I can't lock my legs around the tank to shift the weight off my arms for that long (yet). Must be technique right?
Any other vtwin guys / gals who suffer the same? Whaddya do? Just harden up? :angry:Firstly, posture is important: try to push your stomach out / stick your butt out, so your back and stomach muscles are supporting you. It feels awkward at first, but you should get used to doing it so it becomes second nature. If you do this, there should be no weight on your arms. If that doesn't help, then you could try different clip-ons - there's probably something from another Suzuki that'll fit and provide more height. Alternatively, there are aftermarket clip-ons from Tomaselli, Convertibar, Helibar, etc. that will fix things. I added GenMar risers to mine, but an alternative for me would've been the bars from a post-2001 VTR, as they are 19mm higher and angled differently.
If you have Lots o' Vibes™ through your clip-ons, you could get heavier bar-end weights. If it's just the revs that you're riding at, lower the gearing a bit (your bike's probably overgeared anyway) by getting a 2-tooth bigger sprocket on the rear. If nothing else, that'll revolutionise the way the bike is to ride, right through the gears. (You're effectively increasing the torque at the rear wheel in every gear).
Hope some of this helps.
kerryg
24th September 2004, 09:53
The cop reckoned i'd accelerated to 70km/h during the manouevre. :
I thought it was OK to briefly exceed the speed limit during overtaking in the interests of doing it safely....am I wrong???...again??? :wacko:
riffer
24th September 2004, 10:38
I thought it was OK to briefly exceed the speed limit during overtaking in the interests of doing it safely....am I wrong???...again??? :wacko:
Not what I've been told. My last ticket I was told if I had to exceed the speed limit to overtake then it wasn't necessary.
jrandom
24th September 2004, 10:42
Not what I've been told. My last ticket I was told if I had to exceed the speed limit to overtake then it wasn't necessary.
Indeed.
And it's probably why the boys at Autocar Magazine have taken to referring to measured 80-120 acceleration times as Time Exposed to Danger (TED) measurements, in a most likely ineffectual effort to undermine the establishment.
vifferman
24th September 2004, 11:01
Not what I've been told. My last ticket I was told if I had to exceed the speed limit to overtake then it wasn't necessary.And that is just friggin' stupid. :brick:
Surely the bottom line of all road laws is safety? And in many circumstances, it would be safer to briefly exceed the speed limit then pull in again and slow down, than to follow someone doing say 90km/h and end up with a long line of inattentive, angry people who are probably following too closely etc., OR to pass at 100 km/h and take a very long while to do so.
This is the primary idiocy of sticking to a "Speed Kills" line of propaganda: it's overly simplistic, and fails to directly address the primary cause of crashes which is poor driving resulting from poor attitudes resulting from poor education and a poor standard of driver testing. Really, when you think about it, if EVERYONE on the road was highly skilled AND had a sensible attitude to driving, then road conditions, weather conditions, and speed limits would be totally irrelevant. Think about it...
Instead, we have roads full of people who shouldn't be allowed to drive, and a climate of blame-shifting: "It's the dangerous roads." "It's the gubmint's fault!" "It's the other bloke's bad driving." Blah blah blah. Add to that a punitive regime which is failing to fix things, and you end up with a grumpy and unco-operative motoring public.
Like the piece in the paper the other day: if the answer is the 3 E's (Education, Enforcement, Engineering), why is the entire focus on EnforcEmEnt?
manuboy
24th September 2004, 11:07
I thought it was OK to briefly exceed the speed limit during overtaking in the interests of doing it safely....am I wrong???...again??? :wacko:
I would've thought (and have been told) in the interests of safety, get it done as quickly as poss... within reason.
Hey.. anybody know how must distance it takes to overtake somebody if you do all the legal stuff i.e indicate for 3 seconds (?) pull out, indicate, pull back in if you are doing around about the open road limit? i got told, but i can't remember - it was ridiculous anyway. It would limit the places you could legally and practically pass in NZ to .. well, not that many stretches of road....i could be wrong of course...
manuboy
24th September 2004, 11:13
And that is just friggin' stupid. :brick:
Like the piece in the paper the other day: if the answer is the 3 E's (Education, Enforcement, Engineering), why is the entire focus on EnforcEmEnt?
Yup! Fully agree. I think the answer has to do with whats easiest. Enforcement must be easier than education and engineering.
But last night i just copped it (cos yeah, i did speed...) and tried to keep it short and sweet with the man. I had the feeling he thought i was unlicensed and had stolen the bike - how many people steal a bike and wear full road gear (brand new sidi's even!).
Well i guess i should be thankful. If somebody did steal it i'd be grateful he asked the question if the rider got pulled up....
p.s thanks for the advice. Have a service in 200k, will i have to remove links if i go two teeth down?
James Deuce
24th September 2004, 11:26
Do you guys never watch interviews with Police bigwigs and "safety" experts? It has been pointed out ad nauseum over the last 12 months that it is illegal to exceed the speed limit for any reason including overtaking. TV3 demonstrated how long it took to overtake a car doing 90km/hr on the open road without exceeding 100km/hr and took some outrageous distance and time to do it. Accelerating to 120km/hr dropped the TED to a 1/4 of the cited distance and time for the 100km/hr overtake. The Police refused to back down, though they suggested that it would be at the discretion of the issuing officer as to whether or not speeding whilst overtaking would be deemed a ticketable offence.
riffer
24th September 2004, 12:03
Do you guys never watch interviews with Police bigwigs and "safety" experts? It has been pointed out ad nauseum over the last 12 months that it is illegal to exceed the speed limit for any reason including overtaking. TV3 demonstrated how long it took to overtake a car doing 90km/hr on the open road without exceeding 100km/hr and took some outrageous distance and time to do it. Accelerating to 120km/hr dropped the TED to a 1/4 of the cited distance and time for the 100km/hr overtake. The Police refused to back down, though they suggested that it would be at the discretion of the issuing officer as to whether or not speeding whilst overtaking would be deemed a ticketable offence.
35 seconds IIRC. Best you all be good sheep and stay with the flock. baaaa.
vifferman
24th September 2004, 12:28
p.s thanks for the advice. Have a service in 200k, will i have to remove links if i go two teeth down?What?!? You actually believed my load of gobblers?!?:blink:
Nah - you shouldn't have to remove links as you need to add two teeth on the rear sprocket, so it has a marginally bigger sprocket to go around. You could drop one tooth on the front sprocket, but it's harder on the chain, as it has to go around a tighter bend.
I went down one tooth on the front sprocket (just hacksawed it off....) and once the chain had stretched a bit, I cut 2 links out of the chain, which just worked, with the rear axle nearly as far forward as it could go. (Note that I wasn't too concerned about fookin the chain, as it's some weird brand I couldn't get a rivet link for, so I'm not overly concerned if it dies.)
With adding two teeth (you can borrow the one I sawed off, then you just need one more to glue on), this will shorten the wheelbase a little. If it bothers you doing too many wheelies, then you could add two links to the chain to shift it back again, but this isn't usually necessary, as the change in rear sprocket diameter isn't too dramatic.
wari
26th September 2004, 21:28
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Was "allocated" my first speeding infringement last night. Passed a guy in a beat up old van who was doin just under 50km/h on a dead straight road. Once passed him i settled to 60km/h. About 2K's later i got pulled. The cop reckoned i'd accelerated to 70km/h during the manouevre. He was probably right. $80 ain't bad, accept it's a possible CBTA license killer.... ooops!
...
I THInks my bloode just boiled ... :sunny:
BEt the beatuppe© van was ... :doobey:
badlieutenant
26th September 2004, 22:23
once upon a time I knew a guy who copped a bit of poo on the chin when the naughty girl he picked up from the pub farted with follow thru whilst shagging. if you dont know the position im not gona tell you.
castor sugar in your fuel tank can turn your carbs into lolly factorys.
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