Warning for all parents using formula!!

[hellnback]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4129829a10.html

Parents warned over baby formulas
The New Zealand Food Safety Authority is advising parents to stop using two brands of infant formula.

At a news conference today the authority said the products, Nutricia and Karicare gold plus, and the Karicare follow on formula, contain a substance they should not have.

The substance is an additive that could affect infant bowel movements.

[jrandom]

How are you supposed to tell when something affects infant bowel movements?

Even when perfectly normal, they're unpredictable, foul, runny and generally awful in every respect.

If I ever happen to find out that there is, in fact, a God, I'm totally taking that shit up with him. In a very literal sense.

[Sniper]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4129829a10.html

Parents warned over baby formulas
The New Zealand Food Safety Authority is advising parents to stop using two brands of infant formula.

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Meh, leave it in. You want to make the next generation a bunch of whiners because there food was too hard on their Tum Tums?

I drank furniture polish twice in the space of 3 years (dont ask) and I turned out OK

[scracha]

Do planet earth a favor and wear a johnny,.

[Drum]

Thanks for the heads up, but I don't think theres any need to panic just yet.

This sounds like a red-tape panic rather than a your-child's-health-is-danger one.

[MisterD]

I'm with Sniper and Fish - sorry Jrandom on this -if you spent time worrying about everything they tell you to worry about the baby would never even get fed.

MasterD (16 months) loves onion bhaji, and that has an interesting affect I can tell you....

[Keystone19]

Just breastfeed them.

[MisterD]

Just breastfeed them.

Breastfeed, yep, then Mum eats curry and same effect!

[Pwalo]

I'm really glad that we had our kids back in the day when you really didn't worry about what you could or couldn't eat, drink, smoke, etc etc.

Blowed if I know how we all survived.

[Hitcher]

I drank furniture polish twice in the space of 3 years (dont ask) and I turned out OK

Explains the lovely lustre...

[ManDownUnder]

Just breastfeed them.

... what she said! Quite literally pure and simple...

[Sniper]

Explains the lovely lustre...

Thank you. But it is as much a curse as it is a blessing. Broken many a heart telling the lovely young lass that Im not really interested in her when I get that "twinkle" in my eyes.

[Maha]

I drank furniture polish twice in the space of 3 years (dont ask) and I turned out OK


Did ya polish anything with Brasso while you were at it?...

[Matt Bleck]

Just breastfeed them.

"but wouldn't that require breasts?"

[sunhuntin]

im picking the problem is not in making their crap runny or foul smelling... but maybe causing constipation. can be a bit tricky if not looked out for!

i must have been formula raised, due to being adopted. breastfeeding is not always an option [mum dying during or soon after birth, adoption, etc]

[James Deuce]

Bollocks!

Typical anti-formula propaganda.

[judecatmad]

I'm really glad that we had our kids back in the day when you really didn't worry about what you could or couldn't eat, drink, smoke, etc etc.

Blowed if I know how we all survived.

I feel exactly the same about the 'Lysteria hysteria' floating around - so much "helpful advice" over what you should and shouldn't eat cos you might hurt baby.

Kids are too molly-coddled these days!

[Drum]

I've just been listening to the report on the radio. The issue is simply that the formula contains an additive not approved here. It is apparently approved and widely used in Europe, and even used in hospitals here.

Apparently a competitor alerted the authorities to the non-compliance. There is no evidence of harm, rather that there is no evidence of no harm.

[MisterD]

I've just been listening to the report on the radio. The issue is simply that the formula contains an additive not approved here. It is apparently approved and widely used in Europe, and even used in hospitals here.

Apparently a competitor alerted the authorities to the non-compliance. There is no evidence of harm, rather that there is no evidence of no harm.

Can anyone else feel another media beat-up on the way....

[Krusti]

I must have been breast fed because my shit don't stink.........:innocent:

[Taz]

Sometimes you don't have the option of whether or not to breastfeed. We didn't have the luxury of choosing for our twin boys, they needed food and formula was it. sometimes things just aren't simple. Breast feeding is probably better but do not look down on those using formula's as some times it's the only option. Us guys don't lactate too well.

[Hitcher]

Neither did I. My Mum forced me to.

[slowpoke]

Just breastfeed them.

WHAAAAT!!!!! It took me months of hard work before I was allowed any access to them whatsoever, then 18 years of limited access on good behaviour.....I'm buggered if I'm gonna let some snotty lil' rugrat just waltz in and takeover without putting in the hard yards!!

[T-Thunder13]

I drank furniture polish twice in the space of 3 years (dont ask) and I turned out OK

here here i drank a bottle of perfume when i was 18 months. and i have a wicked tollerence for booze.

[sunhuntin]

i ate a worm... does that count?

[pete376403]

"Linda Lovelace to the white courtesy phone please. Your caller has a question for you..."

[What?]

I've just been listening to the report on the radio. The issue is simply that the formula contains an additive not approved here. It is apparently approved and widely used in Europe, and even used in hospitals here.

Apparently a competitor alerted the authorities to the non-compliance. There is no evidence of harm, rather that there is no evidence of no harm.

You are on the money, Drum.

This whole thing is about one company using media hysteria to take sales off a competitor, and the media are gullible enough to take it up.

[Reckless]

here here i drank a bottle of perfume when i was 18 months. and i have a wicked tollerence for booze.

hehe Faberge farts after that!!

I musta been bottle feed as I have this yearning desire:love: to get at them, :innocent: whenever I see a nice set of breasts. :yes:

[janno]

You are on the money, Drum.

This whole thing is about one company using media hysteria to take sales off a competitor, and the media are gullible enough to take it up.

No, not gullible at all. Merely looking to keep up their respective circulation and viewing figures. The journo's will know exactly what the real reasons behind the press release from whichever rival company are, but have decided the public are too dense to pick it up.

Cynical would be the word.

This is how a great deal of hard news works.

[James Deuce]

Quite simply it's dangerously irresponsible reporting for some people.

The pre-biotics in the toddler version of the formula they are talking about have kept No. 2 son out of Hospital for 6 months. We believe we have clear proof that the additives that are being bitched about are life savers for a small percentage of the population.

20 Hospital admissions in the first 3 years of life. We switched to Karicare Gold as a nutritional supplement after investigating the constituent ingredients and we've had 1 admission this year. Put simply, we've changed his immune system response to certain stimuli.

[James Deuce]

No, not gullible at all. Merely looking to keep up their respective circulation and viewing figures. The journo's will know exactly what the real reasons behind the press release from whichever rival company are, but have decided the public are too dense to pick it up.

Cynical would be the word.

This is how a great deal of hard news works.

Please avoid using the words "news" and "journo" in the anything like the same context in future please. There are no journalists involved in the "news" business.

[Hitcher]

What the "media" fail to grasp at times are the subtleties and shades of grey that seem to have evaporated in our harsh black-and-white post-9/11 world. The first victim of "war" is the truth, and all that.

In the case of this infant formula "scare" the issue is solely one of non-compliance: an ingredient is not on New Zealand's list of approved ingredients, so the regulators have no choice but to withdraw the product. There is no evidence to suggest that the products in question are unsafe or dangerous. But a regulator cannot exercise discretion -- the ingredient is either approved or it isn't. A question that the media should be asking is when a determination will be made on the problem ingredient so that importation of these products may proceed.

[sunhuntin]

Quite simply it's dangerously irresponsible reporting for some people.

The pre-biotics in the toddler version of the formula they are talking about have kept No. 2 son out of Hospital for 6 months. We believe we have clear proof that the additives that are being bitched about are life savers for a small percentage of the population.

20 Hospital admissions in the first 3 years of life. We switched to Karicare Gold as a nutritional supplement after investigating the constituent ingredients and we've had 1 admission this year. Put simply, we've changed his immune system response to certain stimuli.



my neice is 18months. mum says shes on one of the formulas in question. it certainly hasnt given her the runs! she was recently constipated, but ive put that down being fed nothing but crap [her main drink is powerade! who knows what she eats!!] she guzzles water whenever she comes here... poor tyke.

[Drum]

my neice is 18months..........her main drink is powerade!.........

Please tell me you're joking.

[MisterD]

In the case of this infant formula "scare" the issue is solely one of non-compliance: an ingredient is not on New Zealand's list of approved ingredients, so the regulators have no choice but to withdraw the product. There is no evidence to suggest that the products in question are unsafe or dangerous. But a regulator cannot exercise discretion -- the ingredient is either approved or it isn't. A question that the media should be asking is when a determination will be made on the problem ingredient so that importation of these products may proceed.

Interesting that this announcement by the FSA was made on the same day that the gummint announced that it was shelving the legislation that would have allowed them to ban the product....if I was Karicare, I'd sue them for everything I could.

The pediatrician on the gogglebox this morning said that over ten million babies worldwide were fed this stuff with no problems, and some bunch of numpty NZ beaurocrats reckon they can't approve it for NZ. WT and indeed F?