600 or 1000?

[Vapor]

Hi Guys,

This is one of those questions, probably been answered before but would like some input as to the differences in power and ridability between a 600 class bike and the thous.

I am 28 and like to consider myself extremely cautious when riding. I will have my full license in about 4 months, and have been riding a CBR250rr.

I am going to buy brand new when I get my full license, and was potentially looking at something along the lines of either
1. Triumph Daytona 675
2. GSXR-600 or R6

Then, I thought to myself, well if I am buying a brand new bike that I will want to hang onto for years to come.. is the possibility of being able to jump on a 1000 realistic? Or am I just asking for trouble.

So, am I better to go for a 600 class bike and then move up later, or do you think I should be ok jumping on the 1000 straight away?

I would appreciated any comments regarding handling and weight etc too. As I am not a huge guy at 68kg and about 5ft8.

Thanks in advance.

Vapor

[jrandom]

You already know the answer to the question.

Buy the 600.

It's not that you can't ride the thou, it's that you'll have more fun and become a better rider on the 600. You may not even want to 'upgrade'.

[kiwifruit]

My advice would be to go for a 600, it will be less likely to bite you. You'll have alot of fun on a 600 and the power will still be amazing compared to your 250.

Have you riden a modern thou? By all means test ride one, they are incredibly easy to ride but also fairly easy to get into trouble on.

[SimJen]

Been answered many times on here before.
A 600 is more than capable of getting you in trouble if you don't respect it.
I had a modified NSR250SP then went the GSX-R 600 route, and found I was wringing its neck all the time. Got bored of the 600 and got an 01 GSX-R1000 and found I was still riding at the same speeds, but obviously had a heap more power in reserve. As the 1000 revs less you get better gas mileage too, with the odd third gear power wheelie thrown in for good measure.
Then went up to a 05 1000 and probably will never go back.
If I was you i'd get a gun metal 675.....sweet looking bikes and not as common as the others.......

[Edbear]

...is the possibility of being able to jump on a 1000 realistic? Or am I just asking for trouble.



Yo' askin' fer trouble...:yes: A new 600 will be greased lightning compared to the old CBR and a thou will kill you before your brain has registered the take-off!

Take it in steps. Even my old GSX-F600 would top 190km/h so quick it seemed like I was stabbing furiously at the gearlever in an attempt to keep up with the revs!

When you read comments from experienced testers or riders of the capability of Frosty, or OAB, et al. remember they could probably ride rings around us mere mortals if we were on a thou and they were on a 250!:second:

[ManDownUnder]

You already know the answer to the question.

Buy the 600.

It's not that you can't ride the thou, it's that you'll have more fun and become a better rider on the 600. You may not even want to 'upgrade'.

Agreed... and how it hurts!

As a crass comparison... the 600 will work harder to find 240 but fly around corners, the thou will fly to 240 and work harder around corners.

If you want fun handling and a great all round machine go for the 600 and if/when you get to the point where you ride the pants off it, step up. If you want point and squirt on a machine that takes a little more (experience) to goad around the twisties, go for the thou.

I'm 99% sure you'd be happier on the 600.

edit - considering your height and weight... 600 all the way dude. You'll be sweet

[imdying]

The 600s are incredibly fun to thrash, it'd be a shame to miss out on that. The thous build up speed incredibly quick, and just when you think they're really pulling hard, they really start to pull. I don't anybody here could in good conscience can recommend a thou as a good step up... even a 600 will require a lot of respect... I could name a few on here that have put those into places they shouldn't :yes:

[Cajun]

Hi vapor i am same age as you

i have a 04 gsxr600 i brought brand new, and honstly i don't plan on upgrading to a bigger cc racerep bike, and i sorta dont' see the point in some of the big cc bikes on nz roads as a whole
I previously had a gsxr1100 before i got the 600, wife had a gsxr 1000 same time i had the 600, and i much pefer the 600 over the 1000.

They are the same weight, (give or take few kgs) the 1000cc just have another 50-60 hp on the 600, which can come back and bite you on the ass, but even due to weight being same it does not account for turning, a 600cc will turn better than a 1000 (due to science and curifual force of the bigger cc motor). I perfer the 600/750 size bikes due to you can thrash them a easyer and they not gonna come along and bite you on the ass as a 1000cc.

Or another opintion is go for best of both worlds and get a gsxr 750.

[Sparky Bills]

Go 600. Although there are lots of riders on here with thou's, Most have been riding for a very long time, and know what they can do, and thier limits. (I HOPE...?)
You will have sooooo much fun on a 600. But as others have said.. IT WILL STILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE.:rockon:

[avgas]

The key to the matter is how cocky are you on a 250?
very cocky on a 600 means your dead
very cocky on a 1000 means your a puddle with teeth.
Also depends on the bike, 1000cc doesnt mean jack - hell buy a gsx1400
but say we are talking R1/ZX10R/GSXRK/Blade etc.....its a whole different ball park.
How fast do you realistically want to go?

[terbang]

It depends a lot on what sort of use you expect out of the bike. Sport riding, commuting, touring, track, 2 up or a combination?

[jrandom]

Sport riding, commuting, touring, track, 2 up or a combination?

For Vapor, a 600 would do a better job than a thou at any of the above, apart from the fact that nobody likes riding pillion on a modern sprotbike of any size. If he was planning on a lot of 2-up riding he'd be looking for something quite different, I'm sure.

[Toaster]

At your size, my farts would blow you over... dude I recommend a 600cc. Peppy little bikes them 600cc's and a sensible move up from a 250cc.

[SimJen]

Nothing wrong with a 600, they are wicked fun.
Thou's cost more to run, you end up chewing tyres and chains a little quicker and insurance is a lot higher.
Maybe you will end up getting a thou, but Im a fan of the three step program :) (250, 600, 1000) Worked for me.

[Pussy]

Got to agree with Cajun, Vapor. I've been riding for more years than I care to remember. I have owned four GSX-R1000s. Last November my wife bought a new GSX-R750, and a week later so did I. I personally find the 750 a whole lot nicer to ride than the 1000, still got enough grunt for me, with far superior handling, with the added bonus of being able to cruise at sensible type speeds without the bike complaining. I took a K7 1000 for a test ride last week, then immediately test rode a K7 750 with a pipe and power commander. It reinforced my decision to change to the 750. I reckon if you got a 750, you wouldn't need to upgrade in the future

[Vapor]

I guess one question I have is that my CBR is revving at over 10k when at motorway cruising speeds, and it gets a little annoying on the ears (It has an aftermarket pipe which probably doesnt help matters.

But would any of the 600's rev alot lower at those speeds, I do quite a bit of commuting and it would probably also factor in my decision. ;)

Thanks again, it is looking alot like the 600 ball park is where to go. My missus will be occacsionaly riding with me on the back, however it will just be for weekend pub visits etc ;)

[jrandom]

GSX-R750

:love:

The ultimate sprotbike, in all its incarnations.

Suzuki made the right move continuing development in the 750 format when everyone else gave up on it.

[Toaster]

Nothing wrong with a 600, they are wicked fun.
Thou's cost more to run, you end up chewing tyres and chains a little quicker and insurance is a lot higher.
Maybe you will end up getting a thou, but Im a fan of the three step program :) (250, 600, 1000) Worked for me.

Good points. If the rider is really keen on a 1000cc bike, maybe consider something like I did - I tried a v-twin thou' after my 250cc which was a great deal more docile than a super-sports and easier on the budget too.

[slinky]

I went from a cbr250rr to a cbr900rr im also a cautious rider and the upgrade was fine for me. Im about same weight and height as you.
Its not quite a brand new Thou, Possibly more comparible to a brand new 600. I can't say i know Cus ive ridden neither.
I rekon get the 600.

[Toaster]

:love:

The ultimate sprotbike, in all its incarnations.

Suzuki made the right move continuing development in the 750 format when everyone else gave up on it.

Agreed, it would have to be the best balanced bike I have ever had. Highly recommended.

[terbang]

For Vapor, a 600 would do a better job than a thou at any of the above, apart from the fact that nobody likes riding pillion on a modern sprotbike of any size. If he was planning on a lot of 2-up riding he'd be looking for something quite different, I'm sure.
You sure? For city commuting a scooter would do a better job than a 600..! Was just casting thought a little wider thats all.
And as far as 'pillioning' I didn't think that Vapour was going to be the pillion, rather the rider so may prefer the extra HP when carrying a pillion.

[jrandom]

my CBR is revving at over 10k when at motorway cruising speeds...

It doesn't have an Arrow can, does it?

The loudest bike I ever rode was a CBR250RR with an Arrow exhaust system. At 100kph in sixth gear, it made my ears hurt.

Any new 600 will purr along happily at 5Krpm or so on the motorway, all day, making barely noticeable amounts of noise. Your ears will be perfectly happy. I'd worry more about wind noise than the engine/exhaust note. Personally, I find that wind noise gives me mild tinnitus after several hours nonstop highway riding if I don't wear earplugs.


My missus will be occacsionaly riding with me on the back...

Surely you're familiar with the standard KB advice - she needs her own bike.

'nuff said.

[slinky]

I guess one question I have is that my CBR is revving at over 10k when at motorway cruising speeds, and it gets a little annoying on the ears (It has an aftermarket pipe which probably doesnt help matters.

But would any of the 600's rev alot lower at those speeds, I do quite a bit of commuting and it would probably also factor in my decision. ;)

Thanks again, it is looking alot like the 600 ball park is where to go. My missus will be occacsionaly riding with me on the back, however it will just be for weekend pub visits etc ;)

You commute? I heard that a 600 clutch is alot lighter. So a lil easier on your hand if you need to use the clutch alot.
I commute on my 900 - again i am fine, but im not sure what it compares with.

[jrandom]

You sure? For city commuting a scooter would do a better job than a 600..! Was just casting thought a little wider thats all.

Of course, but Vapor already seems pretty tightly focused on the sprotbike idea, and I don't think it's anybody's place to try to argue him out of it. He didn't ask what bike would suit which particular purpose - he asked whether he should move to a 600 or a thou as his next crotch rocket.


And as far as 'pillioning' I didn't think that Vapour was going to be the pillion, rather the rider so may prefer the extra HP when carrying a pillion.

Yes, I was referring to him wanting to carry a pillion, not be one. And to be honest, anything making over 100hp is going to be just fiiiiiine with someone on the back.

[yod]

why only 600 or 1000, what happened to 750/800/900 ? plenty of good (or better) options in between....

[Kflasher]

I would take the step as you mentioned.

[jrandom]

why only 600 or 1000, what happened to 750/800/900 ?

He wants a brand new go-fast sprotbike to rape his wrists and knees and lose his licence on, remember?

Apart from the GSX-R750, which has already been mentioned, 600cc and 1000cc inline fours are the only engine configurations available from the big brands for that style of bike.

A Triumph 675 is about the only alternative, although stretching the budget to $20K and picking up a (second-hand) MV Agusta F4-750 would be a sexy option.

[terbang]

I do quite a bit of commuting and it would probably also factor in my decision. ;)
My missus will be occacsionaly riding with me on the back, however it will just be for weekend pub visits etc ;)


He wants a brand new go-fast sprotbike to rape his wrists and knees and lose his licence on, remember?


Remember what?

[jrandom]

Remember what?

Remember being young and stupid and wanting a 120hp motorcycle to go grocery shopping on?

:love:

[yod]

Remember being young and stupid and wanting a 120hp motorcycle to go grocery shopping on?

:love:

yup....GPz900RA4 (but i think it was only 115hp)

[scracha]

As the 1000 revs less you get better gas mileage too, with the odd third gear power wheelie thrown in for good measure.


What have the high revs of a smaller bike got to do with gogo juice consumption? By that logic an FZR250 will use more than a FZR1000.

[Brett]

600.

I went from a similar bike to you vapor (ZXR250, which I could ride the shit out of), and when I got my GSXR600, the power of it blew my mind. Nearly a year on, I am used to its power, but shit the thing is still pretty fast!
If you are reckless on a 600, you can still get into strife, I have had rear wheel spinning at 100kph in 6th gear through corners in the wet many times, a thou can do that in the dry in lower gears!

600's are more manouverable on tight roads/circuits than a thou, and will show you very quickly just how much you still need to learn. Besides, the thrill of riding a bigger machine is wonderfull, why not stage it rather than kill it all in one shot?

[stify]

What have the high revs of a smaller bike got to do with gogo juice consumption? By that logic an FZR250 will use more than a FZR1000.

duno about the logic, we was out in the weekend on a cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
same ride, same speeds and the 600 used more gas than the 1000, go figure

[Brett]

What have the high revs of a smaller bike got to do with gogo juice consumption? By that logic an FZR250 will use more than a FZR1000.

Engine Capacity : RPM

a 250 has piss small pistons/cylinders, so even at high RPM uses less fuel than a big engine.

A 600cc engine is larger in capacity, and at certain RPMs will be less fuel efficient than its bigger brother the 1000cc. Think of it as a 13 year male olds lung capacity versus an adult male, at standing rate the adult is heavier on oxygen use, if they both go for a run, chances are the 25 year old male is stronger and fitter so breathes less heavily and goes through less oxygen than the smaller counterpart who is puffing his lungs out.

Stupid analogy I know, but the concept works.

[SimJen]

What have the high revs of a smaller bike got to do with gogo juice consumption? By that logic an FZR250 will use more than a FZR1000.

Well from exhaustive testing on my part and my standard daily commute of 80km's my 600 used to do 34Mpg (can't remember L/100km) and the 1000 does around 37Mpg!
This was gathered over months of use and averaged out. I generally keep logs of all my bikes....cough...GEEK.

[jrandom]

34Mpg (can't remember L/100km)

Google Calculator (http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=34+miles+per+gallon+in+liters+per+100+kilometers&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) is your friend.

[Cajun]

6.77 l/100kms on my bike over its 36000 life so far.

[avgas]

But would any of the 600's rev alot lower at those speeds, I do quite a bit of commuting and it would probably also factor in my decision. ;)

ER5/6
SV650.....

[jrandom]

ER5/6
SV650.....

Fuggoff, the dude doesn't want chickwheels.

[oldrider]

No matter what decision you make and you will make one.

One day you will be answering someone else's question on here about the exact same thing!

It's called experience, everyone has their own version.

Good luck and safe riding as you get there. :ride: Cheers John.

[slowpoke]

Pick up a nice used 04-06 R1 then strap this lil' fella on....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-R1-SUPERCHARGER-KIT_W0QQitemZ330145061380QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10490Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
...for one of those once in a lifetime experiences.........

[_Gina_]

I am 28 and like to consider myself extremely cautious when riding. I will have my full license in about 4 months, and have been riding a CBR250rr.
{snip}
So, am I better to go for a 600 class bike and then move up later, or do you think I should be ok jumping on the 1000 straight away?



Good to hear that you are cautious :)
Yup, buy a 600, ride them all though, and maybe spend the difference between a 600 and a thou' on mods to make the bike sound and look cooler than a cool thing ;)
Then buy a thou' later.I base my feedback on my experiences. I was new to riding bikes in Nov 2005 and cut my teeth in on a ZXR400, bike enough and then some...although we had a VTR1000 which I rode from time to time as I was learning. I went to track days along the way in the early stages to help progress my abilty and that helped me move from a 400 to a 600 without hoo har.

Now 18 months later I have purchased a thou' and I am sufficiently ready to not kill myself on it.

Good luck with the decision, I also know from experience that you will do what it is that you want to do at the end of the day.

G

[jrandom]

Now 18 months later I have purchased a thou...

Hondas don't count.

[_Gina_]

Hondas don't count.
Have you seen my Repsol? It's got a purty mouth :innocent:...

[stify]

I got a purty mouth :innocent:...

:yes::yes::shutup::shutup::dodge::dodge:

[Vapor]

Thanks Girlygirl and all others that have replied ;)

The only reason I wanted to stick with the supersports bikes is because I have grown to love the way the cbr handles etc, and could'nt see myself on a tourer or cruiser type ;) Nothing to do with the going fast etc etc, but extra torque/power is what Im after, and the cbr does lack alot on that side.

I guess like has been mentioned that the 600s produced now are producing more than what the thous were not too far in the past.

I appreciate all your comments ;)

The Trumpy 675 has my vote at the moment, although its seat height is rather high in comparison to the small cbr :)

[Kinje]

Nice. I just went through the same process a few months ago. Step up slowly and get a 600 or the Daytona :love: The CBR250RR is small (or perhaps the 600RR is big). I hop onto mine still sometimes and think 'wow this is little!'

Wasn't even considering the IL4 1000's as they kinda scared me. Test rode some Vtwin 1000's, then rode some IL4 600's and had to have one.

They're nice and smooth like the 250 but f**k loads more power and go from fast to warp speed in no time. Very confidence inspiring round the corners. But you gotta respect them or they will spit you out. I've already had a few oh s**t moments, and one too cocky moment and sat on the road and watched my pride and joy slide into the rimutakas :(

[Black Bandit]

The only reason I wanted to stick with the supersports bikes is because I have grown to love the way the cbr handles
Trust me, the larger bikes do not handle the same way. When you make the move you virtually have to start learning how to ride again. 250's tip in sooooo easily, but on the larger bikes you have to persuade them more, you've got to be committed.



The Trumpy 675 has my vote at the moment, although its seat height is rather high in comparison to the small cbr :)

You and I share a similar build, I'm a little shorter though. You'll find the Trumpy is surprisingly easier to sit on than the IL4s cause it's so narrow at the waist - R6 was the worst in terms of seat height/width.

When the time comes, test ride em all and choose the one that pushes all the right buttons.

[jrandom]

... on the larger bikes you have to persuade them more, you've got to be committed.

Um, WTF are you going on about, dude?

I just got my SRAD after two years off motorcycles. Hadn't spent SFA time on 'big bikes' before that, either, and the bike's sweet as. I can adjust my lines at a moment's notice if absolutely necessary. No heaving on the bars required whatsoever. (Although that changes somewhat when it comes to turning it around in the carport at the bottom of the driveway...)

You'll get far better handling out of a brand new 600 than you will out of a wrung-out Jap import 250 that's pushing 20 years old. The weight difference is bugger-all, and the suspension quality will be light years ahead.


... the Trumpy is surprisingly easier to sit on than the IL4s cause it's so narrow at the waist

Indeed. It's definitely the sexiest '600' of the moment. Although, call me weird, but I find the width of an IL4 between my legs and shoulders strangely reassuring. Most un-bicycle-like.

[boomer]

Um, WTF are you going on about, dude?

I just got my SRAD after two years off motorcycles. Hadn't spent SFA time on 'big bikes' before that, either, and the bike's sweet as. I can adjust my lines at a moment's notice if absolutely necessary. No heaving on the bars required whatsoever. (Although that changes somewhat when it comes to turning it around in the carport at the bottom of the driveway...)

Could be cos you ride like a nanna?

corners come quicker on a thou.. no doubt about it; if your gonna get a thou get a honda which will give you the get up and go but also has some forgiving qualities.

i did the 2 fiddy, 6 then thou route and lost a lot of money doin it BUT i learnt allot. would i change it if i were to do it again and go from a 250 to a thou... yes and no. no cos teh 6 taught me a lot, yes cos it cost me a lot and no cos i'm havin to learn to ride a bike all over again gettin on a thou.

[Nefarious]

Could be cos you ride like a nanna?

corners come quicker on a thou.. no doubt about it; if your gonna get a thou get a honda which will give you the get up and go but also has some forgiving qualities.

i did the 2 fiddy, 6 then thou route and lost a lot of money doin it BUT i learnt allot. would i change it if i were to do it again and go from a 250 to a thou... yes and no. no cos teh 6 taught me a lot, yes cos it cost me a lot and no cos i'm havin to learn to ride a bike all over again gettin on a thou.

don't listen to this cunt.

he can't fuckin ride.

pansie.

[Black Bandit]

Um, WTF are you going on about, dude?

I just got my SRAD after two years off motorcycles. Hadn't spent SFA time on 'big bikes' before that, either, and the bike's sweet as. I can adjust my lines at a moment's notice if absolutely necessary. No heaving on the bars required whatsoever. (Although that changes somewhat when it comes to turning it around in the carport at the bottom of the driveway...)

Personal experience ... and *shock, horror* yours and mine were not the same. :rolleyes: I'm not knocking the handling, merely saying that it is different. It takes time to adjust.

If I get on to a different size/style/power machine and don't adjust my riding style to compensate, I'm in for a world of hurt. ;)

[puddy]

SHIT! Hondas may be forgiving, but Honda riders don't sound that way!

[Nefarious]

SHIT! Hondas may be forgiving, but Honda riders don't sound that way!

what the fuck are you on about?

you put a fuckin pack rack on a k7 gixxer thou?

[jrandom]

Could be cos you ride like a nanna?

That helps, true.

Still, the previous owner managed to punt my bike around the Taupo A1 circuit in 1:40 earlier this year, so I don't think my impression of the way it rides is entirely inaccurate.


Personal experience ... and *shock, horror* yours and mine were not the same.

Perhaps I should have written a more measured response, there, but I wanted to convey the general lack of shock and awe that I've experienced over the last few weeks after finally getting my n00b arse onto a proper motorcycle.

:love:

[kiwifruit]

the previous owner managed to punt my bike around the Taupo A1 circuit in 1:40 earlier this year


that is entirely inaccurate

[jrandom]

that is entirely inaccurate

Oh? I did wonder about it, but then, I'm a trusting sort of chap.

Hmmmm.

[Kendog]

750 gets my vote as well. A very balanced well rounded bike.

Ride all the bikes you are thinking about (if you can), it's the only way to be sure.

[Panther]

Reowwwwwwwwwwwwww thou for the win

[Kornholio]

Hi Guys,

This is one of those questions, probably been answered before but would like some input as to the differences in power and ridability between a 600 class bike and the thous.

I am 28 and like to consider myself extremely cautious when riding. I will have my full license in about 4 months, and have been riding a CBR250rr.

I am going to buy brand new when I get my full license, and was potentially looking at something along the lines of either
1. Triumph Daytona 675
2. GSXR-600 or R6

Then, I thought to myself, well if I am buying a brand new bike that I will want to hang onto for years to come.. is the possibility of being able to jump on a 1000 realistic? Or am I just asking for trouble.

So, am I better to go for a 600 class bike and then move up later, or do you think I should be ok jumping on the 1000 straight away?

I would appreciated any comments regarding handling and weight etc too. As I am not a huge guy at 68kg and about 5ft8.

Thanks in advance.

Vapor

Get a GSXR 750...youll have the best of both worlds :D

[boomer]

don't listen to this cunt.

he can't fuckin ride.

pansie.


foookin neeeeeeeOOOOOOW!



SHIT! Hondas may be forgiving, but Honda riders don't sound that way!


what the fuck are you on about?

you put a fuckin pack rack on a k7 gixxer thou?

:rofl:


that is entirely inaccurate

but not so accurate.. is that what your saying?


Reowwwwwwwwwwwwww thou for the win

Pwnz0r!!!


Get a GSXR 750...youll have the best of both worlds :D

yeah.. korn takes his off road too ..ahahahahahah :Punk:




get a thou and have done with it, then if you don't like it and haven't killed ya self you can get a 600 and feel how inadequate everyone else is :sunny:

[Fat Tony]

750 all the way

[boomer]

..if your gonna get a thou get a honda which will give you the get up and go but also has some forgiving qualities..

alright.. as i've had pointed out to me, teh honda doesn't have any get up and go.. my bad... if you buy a honda thou you might have well have bought an sv650 .. huh grahameee:yes:

[justsomeguy]

Haven't read all the posts, life's too short.

Test ride both. Find an open stretch of road and gently open up the thou in 3rd gear or above while doing 80-90 kmph see how long it takes to reach 120kmph.

Try the same on the 600. Decide how comfortable you feel.

600's can get boring, but that's just the riders opinion, nothing to do with a bike.

Riding a thou is more about flattering your ego for most of us, not for newbies.

Get back to us after your test ride.

[Gremlin]

a thou can do that in the dry in lower gears!

600's are more manouverable on tight roads/circuits than a thou, and will show you very quickly just how much you still need to learn.
he's dead right... now how do you stand your chances of managing that while going through a corner, and overtaking, in the dry, and the rear steps out? Obviously, you're doing xxx kph...

Thous have fantastic torque, but a well ridden 600 can be faster than a 1000, simply because the thou rider has to manage a lot more power. Now factor in the wring factor. With all jap thous doing well over 120kph in 1st gear (come to think of it, 600s are basically up there as well) it is very seldom you are able to really thrash the thou. Nice normal take off from a traffic light, and you can find yourself shifting into second at 60...

You'll have more fun on the 600, without it trying its hardest to kill you...

[_Gina_]

what the fuck are you on about?

you put a fuckin pack rack on a k7 gixxer thou?

Can't bling ya, but that is beyond funny!

To quote DMNTD, I wee'd.

[675trippy]

hey vapour i can vouch for the 675 had daytona 995 before that and the 675 is so much more fun. i only ride for twisties and have no problem keeping up with my mates on r1's zx14's speed triples and others, of course on the straights they leave you behind but corners are your friend and they have no chance.

[cowpoos]

When you read comments from experienced testers or riders of the capability of Frosty,et al. remember they could probably ride rings around us mere mortals if we were on a thou and they were on a 250!:second:


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......that shit always cranks me the fuck up!!!!! hahahaha

[Edbear]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......that shit always cranks me the fuck up!!!!! hahahaha


You haven't seen me ride, have you...?:sunny:

[cowpoos]

You haven't seen me ride, have you...?:sunny:
hahahahaha....you havn't seen frosty ride either have you!!!!! lmfao!!

[Chrislost]

Got to agree with Cajun, Vapor. I've been riding for more years than I care to remember. I have owned four GSX-R1000s. Last November my wife bought a new GSX-R750, and a week later so did I. I personally find the 750 a whole lot nicer to ride than the 1000, still got enough grunt for me, with far superior handling, with the added bonus of being able to cruise at sensible type speeds without the bike complaining. I took a K7 1000 for a test ride last week, then immediately test rode a K7 750 with a pipe and power commander. It reinforced my decision to change to the 750. I reckon if you got a 750, you wouldn't need to upgrade in the future

fark yeah!
750 all the way.
i learned on a cbr400 and by bouncing down the road tho.
judging by what i saw at the pub last thrusday a thou bites pretty dam hard.

[Pussy]

hahahahaha....you havn't seen frosty ride either have you!!!!! lmfao!!

Very insensitive of you, Poos. You know damn well that Frosty is a riding god. I should know(and so should you), he keeps telling us all. What worries me, if he gives up racing, who is going to take care of back marker duties in Formula 3??

[Aero165]

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[Blair-SV]

Test ride till you find what works seems to be the best advice around. But here's my two cents anyway. I haven't ridden either 600 or 1000 IL4's so I don't profess to be an expert buuttt....I just read an article in Bike magazine about the new 600's, seems that most don't start to make good power (what ever that means) until 10,000rpm or so. The 675 got going earlier than that though. So if you like revving engines hard, the go for the 600, and if you prefer a motor that can lug around at lower revs, get a thou.

The testers weren't totally sold on the triumphs long term durability though, pretty hard to beat the japanese for trouble free motoring.

I guess rider size very important, if you plan on owning it for ages it needs to feel 'right' from the start.

I think that was more like 5 cents. Good luck with the testing.

[stify]

What worries me, if he gives up racing, who is going to take care of back marker duties in Formula 3??

ME........(if I ever get the bikes rebuilt,van fixed,tools,stands,tyre warmers,tyres etc etc and a budget to pay for it all)

[justsomeguy]

....I just read an article in Bike magazine about the new 600's, seems that most don't start to make good power (what ever that means) until 10,000rpm or so.

That means they aren't in their power band. They make more than enough power for someone used to a MC19 or 22 from around half that rpm.

Keeping a 600 above 10,000 rpm or rather 12,000 rpm constantly is very important for precision high speed riding, pretty useless for everyday use, unless you use a twisty road or trackday everyday (and you can ride at that level).

[Matt Bleck]

Still, the previous owner managed to punt my bike around the Taupo A1 circuit in 1:40 earlier this year, so I don't think my impression of the way it rides is entirely inaccurate.


:killingme:

[Harry the Barstard]

I have a pretty modern 600 and she definitly holds her own in the corners and she will even take a few thous all be they v twins on the straights. I know because ive done it, before anyone gives me shit about it. Not to mention my six hunna is about 30 kgs less than my old 750. A six hunna will be nicer to ride in the sence that it is a nice step up and it will handle well. My zx6rr has been up to 280Kphr so go's to show that they still have a good bit of top end.

[cowpoos]

I have a pretty modern 600 and she definitly holds her own in the corners and she will even take a few thous all be they v twins on the straights. I know because ive done it, before anyone gives me shit about it. Not to mention my six hunna is about 30 kgs less than my old 750. A six hunna will be nicer to ride in the sence that it is a nice step up and it will handle well. My zx6rr has been up to 280Kphr so go's to show that they still have a good bit of top end.
280kmph...**cough**cough** **bullshit**

[kiwifruit]

280kmph...**cough**cough** **bullshit**

*indicated* :)

[boomer]

stop with all this weight, speed blah..

no matter what you step upto its gonna be a jump and the ONLY thing stoppin YOU killing yourself is you and ya wrist... whether it be a 6 or a thou.

the weights the same, they all corner as well as each other unless your a racer so its down to aesthetics and what you feel safe with.

ps.. most thous are now lighter than 600's of 2 years ago and will no doubt have better cornering/handling capabilities.

ring a 600's neck or ride a thou sedately.. your call

[justsomeguy]

280kmph...**cough**cough** **bullshit**

ZX636's will do an indicated 280 on the clock at around 14-15krpm in 6th.

Don't know what the real speed is though probably 255-60

[justsomeguy]

stop with all this weight, speed blah..

no matter what you step upto its gonna be a jump and the ONLY thing stoppin YOU killing yourself is you and ya wrist... whether it be a 6 or a thou.

the weights the same, they all corner as well as each other unless your a racer so its down to aesthetics and what you feel safe with.

ps.. most thous are now lighter than 600's of 2 years ago and will no doubt have better cornering/handling capabilities.

ring a 600's neck or ride a thou sedately.. your call

Well as you know thous need a bit more shove to be thrown about and a lot more sensitivity from the right hand, won't riding a 6 help you(riders in general) with that?

[boomer]

Well as you know thous need a bit more shove to be thrown about and a lot more sensitivity from the right hand, won't riding a 6 help you(riders in general) with that?


the art of riding a motorcycle is about being smooth.. with ya lines and ya wrist.

whats does it matter what you step up to.. a 6 or a thou; the jump is significant enough for anyone going from a 2fiddy to a 6 to be scary.. why not throw in a bit more and get use to that instead?

it's all about what you ask the biek to do.. just be warned not to TEST what the bike can do.. as i found out .. ahahh

[cowpoos]

*indicated* :)


ZX636's will do an indicated 280 on the clock at around 14-15krpm in 6th.

Don't know what the real speed is though probably 255-60

maybe indicated...I think 260 tops really...on a good day :)

[Harry the Barstard]

maybe indicated...I think 260 tops really...on a good day :)

Nga not indicated, i shipped my bike off to the salt plains, straped on my goggles an open face and got her timed properly.

Of course im quoting specs from the handbook.

[cowpoos]

My zx6rr has been up to 280Kphr so go's to show that they still have a good bit of top end.



Of course im quoting specs from the handbook.

sorry....I must have read what you said wrong....or your being sarcastic about the former :dodge:

[Harry the Barstard]

That's all good, all my point was is that you shouldn't count a 600 as a lil boys bike anymore. They have heaps of go now days and can hurt you just as bad should you fail to respect it.

[Edbear]

280kmph...**cough**cough** **



Awww that's nuthin' my C50T tops 300k with me on board!:yes:

(Oh, or are yuse guys meanin' speed...?:second:)